December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Graynet
by anonymous＠extropia.wimsey.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Do _not_ mess with those BlackNet folks. You'll wind up face-down Sounds like something the Nigerians would try. Nevertheless, I think there would be some value to a GrayNet. There's a difference between intelligence gathering and analysis on the one hand, and espionage on the other. Several businesses in the "competitive intelligence" arena operate quite openly. And of course, the major players like to work through proxies. A GrayNet would have the advantage of establishing the true value of closely-held information. Programming is turning into an "electronic sweat-shop" these days -- here's a chance to turn the situation around. Employers will not be able to afford to treat programmers as expendable, if by releasing them, they empower their competitors. The immediate problem is to find a data haven where the information will be secure from seizure. Info workers of the world unite! Your craniums are your capital! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3a iQCcAgUBLbUDoBL41rmHzZFFAQFvygQ43pXqAMWiGjzsutE8NDKnYXTiN+Z+o8KQ alsXwpRJBKy7KdnwJhE22CJIJqR91a8dXI1CvHdAFRPkbSWkqZJDTuAsanhqd8X6 OsyHwEP3kdWIeBgZht4GTy5kD8rkUIHCewxN7ocsRKg5wAn2MDk5yHqZN69+YNKh 7uCODChhUBxfHgGo5jk2 =uC+4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.3a mQCVAi0lVxMAAAEEPAv9PwNYtn9nH/L72vqMC9b7qY9AMRY28u0PsCg/fqMpfXpG r5R3ceMOw9uQ4FBhk/BIeYXuSsv2Fn08Ft5zelEa+WJUyYy+68D04uqbmn8CBoHO d9Wkh3Am utev31NV/18jRSG6kgxXGF3VVmES2aMj+BfMfW3XLWdkfeE5W6rEvjW uYfNkUUAB0O0CWFyZ29uIDxAPg== =fJR3 -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

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Force is not physical
by norm＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Can someone send me a copy of Eric Hughes Wednesday essay "Force is not physical"? I somehow lost the machine version.

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Graynet
by anonymous＠extropia.wimsey.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Do _not_ mess with those BlackNet folks. You'll wind up face-down Sounds like something the Nigerians would try. Nevertheless, I think there would be some value to a GrayNet. There's a difference between intelligence gathering and analysis on the one hand, and espionage on the other. Several businesses in the "competitive intelligence" arena operate quite openly. And of course, the major players like to work through proxies. A GrayNet would have the advantage of establishing the true value of closely-held information. Programming is turning into an "electronic sweat-shop" these days -- here's a chance to turn the situation around. Employers will not be able to afford to treat programmers as expendable, if by releasing them, they empower their competitors. The immediate problem is to find a data haven where the information will be secure from seizure. Info workers of the world unite! Your craniums are your capital! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3a iQCcAgUBLbUDoBL41rmHzZFFAQFvygQ43pXqAMWiGjzsutE8NDKnYXTiN+Z+o8KQ alsXwpRJBKy7KdnwJhE22CJIJqR91a8dXI1CvHdAFRPkbSWkqZJDTuAsanhqd8X6 OsyHwEP3kdWIeBgZht4GTy5kD8rkUIHCewxN7ocsRKg5wAn2MDk5yHqZN69+YNKh 7uCODChhUBxfHgGo5jk2 =uC+4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.3a mQCVAi0lVxMAAAEEPAv9PwNYtn9nH/L72vqMC9b7qY9AMRY28u0PsCg/fqMpfXpG r5R3ceMOw9uQ4FBhk/BIeYXuSsv2Fn08Ft5zelEa+WJUyYy+68D04uqbmn8CBoHO d9Wkh3Amwutev31NV/18jRSG6kgxXGF3VVmES2aMj+BfMfW3XLWdkfeE5W6rEvjW uYfNkUUAB0O0CWFyZ29uIDxAPg== =fJR3 -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

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Re: Warrantless searches -- A sign of things to come?
by Mike Rose 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

There's another difference between dorms and public housing. Public housing is the tenant's home. In a dorm, the school is acting in loco parentis. That is, the school is acting in the position of a parent, which gives them considerably more latitude. Mike

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You Will...
by Robert A. Hayden 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded from rec.humor.funny. I found it oddly appropriate. --- [ This joke is the original work of Fred Wheeler and Jeff Sorenson (a hysterical conspiracy theorist). It is a parody of recent AT&T commercials that ask "Have you ever read a book from around the world?" and respond "You will, and the company that will bring it to you is AT&T." ] Have you ever received an automated sales pitch, while you were still in your pajamas? Have you ever had thousands of calls all over the world charged to your stolen account number? Have you ever had your paycheck deleted by faceless intruders from across the globe? Have you ever had an employer know more about your whereabouts and activities than your spouse? Have you ever been snuffed to dust by a satellite laser while lying on the beach? ______ | | | | | You | | | | Will | | | |______| And the company that will bring this to you is AT&T ----- Fred Wheeler wheeler(a)ipl.rpi.edu Jeff Sorensen sorenjs(a)pb.com -- Selected by Maddi Hausmann Sojourner. MAIL your joke to funny(a)clarinet.com. Attribute the joke's source if at all possible. A Daemon will auto-reply. Jokes ABOUT major current events should be sent to topical(a)clarinet.com (ie. jokes which won't be funny if not given immediate attention.) Anything that is not a joke submission goes to funny-request(a)clarinet.com -- ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden(a)krypton.mankato.msus.edu \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> Political Correctness is \/ Finger for PGP 2.3a Public Key <=> P.C. for "Thought Police" -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- (GEEK CODE 1.0.1) GAT d- -p+(---) c++(++++) l++ u++ e+/* m++(*)@ s-/++ n-(---) h+(*) f+ g+ w++ t++ r++ y+(*) k

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PARTY: Pre-Extro I conference party 29 April 94
by whitaker＠dpair.csd.sgi.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The first annual Extropians conference (Extro-I) occurs 30 April - 1 May, next weekend, at the Sheraton in Sunnyvale, California. I'm holding a party the night before, Friday 29 April, at the Nexus (our house) in Cupertino. Directions follow this message. Extropians, cypherpunks, and other fellow travellers are welcome to come to the party, even if not attending the conference that weekend. The party starts at 1900. ************ This is potluck!!! ************************ ************ You know what that means: **************** ************ Bring food or drink ********************** Discouraged: Salty nachos, icky sweet soft drinks, and other such stuff Encouraged: Interesting, novel, healthy, tasty foods. Know how to make something interesting? Do so and bring it! Amara's "Latvian Pancakes" were a big hit at the last party! This probably won't be an all-nighter, as the conference starts early the next day. Translation: don't expect crash space. Unless I really, really *like* you. There are good hotels all around. I reserve the right, along with my housemates, to turn people away at the door, or eject them at whim. I've never had to do this before, and I don't expect I'll ever need to. However... this *is* the open net... Come on along and have some fun in good company. Be seeing you. DIRECTIONS: Nexus Lite is located at 21090 Grenola Drive in Cupertino. Geoff Dale's phone number (in case you get lost) is 408-253-1692. >From 280: Take the Saratoga/Sunnyvale Exit (which is actually the 85 South detour). Turn north on DeAnza (aka Saratoga/Sunnyvale Road) at the exit (a left turn if you are coming from San Francisco; right if you are coming from San Jose). Turn left at Homestead; go three blocks to N. Stelling, take left (at the McDonalds). (Note: North Stelling is called Hollenbeck on the other side of Homestead. Don't be fooled!) >From 101: Take 85 south and exit at Homestead; turn left onto Homestead. Proceed several blocks (you will pass a high school); then turn right on N. Stelling. Once on N. Stelling: Right at first light: Greenleaf First left, Flora Vista First Right on to Grenola Dr 21090 (mnemonic: anagram for Beverly Hills zip code) is a tannish house on left with a high roof that slopes toward the street. Park on the street -- in the direction of traffic, or you may get a $15 ticket. This has happened. OBLIGATORY CRUDE ASCII MAP (not to scale; up is not north): /\ || ^ ^ || (85) | | || | | || |Hollenbeck | /|| | | <----++---/ /-- (Homestead) ---+------------------+------------------> || | | || |N.Stelling | || | | || | DeAnza|Saratoga/Sunnyvale || | | <=========/ /== (280) =======] | [================+==================> || | || | || ^ | || | | Greenleaf \/ <----------+-------+-----------------> | | Flora Vista| | | | | | Grenola | | <-------------+ | *=21090 | | | | V V -- Russell Earl Whitaker whitaker(a)sgi.com Silicon Graphics Inc. Technical Assistance Center, Mountain View CA (415) 390-2250 ================================================================ #include <std_disclaimer.h>

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Re: Intolerance on the list
by kkirksey＠world.std.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > I also agree with Russell. Although the organization for which you work > may be unnerving to some, they should be willing to give you a shot at > being an ok kinda guy as a freethinking individual. ^^^^^^^^^^^^ <Stuff deleted> > Keep asking your questions and thinking freely! > Jim ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > I fully encourage people to think freely, but I absolutely refuse to encourage people to become "Free Thinkers". I've found that so-called "Free Thinkers" reveal themselves to be, through their ideas and literature, to be nothing more than narrow-minded empiricist zealots, hostile beyond reason to religion and anything that cannot be apprehended directly by the human senses in general. IMHO, of course. Ken ============================================================================= Ken Kirksey kkirksey(a)world.std.com Mac Guru & Developer - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Harassment is a power issue, and power is neither male nor female. Whoever is behind the desk has the opportunity to abuse power, and women will take advantage as often as men. - Michael Crichton (in _Disclosure_) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3a iQCVAgUBLbZWuusZNYlu+zuBAQEQdgP+IVihMlRPcB4I2cgU+c03GyrStkXjgDOj ck+18D0aXAFmvWIgQSCm/KJYpuQBxRFv5AhrfeewdKZveicWy6ifM0EjD7NQq1tv 0KtB07u0JPzpx6eVMFEtq8m/BMWIwdeLbD0vyiBpSNlAVm8vkrZSC4CtEcNZYGlG LJpf5IU3DkI= =62e9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Milgram & Authority (+Ethics)
by Blanc Weber 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: Jeff Davis I have an appointment with my State Senator Friday to talk to him about telnet access from basic phone service becoming a State Right of residents. ................................................ How do you have time to keep up with the list, what with talking to reporters from ABC & other media, consorting with Senators, changing the educational style of your public school systems, and single-handedly revitalizing the economy while changing the industry to a technological base in a state with limited water resources? And all this form Wyoming! Also, with the infusion of a centralized industry and the establishment of basic phone rights, how would you maintain your position as one of Barlow's revolutionary compadres? (Just wondering.) Blanc

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Re: FYI (fwd)
by gtoal＠an-teallach.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Ley me guess, you were in Antartica without net access for the whole of April, right? Sheesh. No-one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public... G

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Info Theory Conference
by nobody＠shell.portal.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

(fwd from cellular digest) Dear Colleagues. I want to draw your attention to the conference: ISIT 94 - IEEE International Symposium on Information Theory to be held 27th June- 1st July 1994 at ======================== The Norwegian Institute of Technology, Trondheim, Norway. --------------------------------------------------------- There will be 7 parallell sessions on the following topics: Distributed information processing Stochastic processes Applications of information theory Error-control coding Multi-user information theory Pattern recognition Cryptography and security Data compression Detection and estimation Signal processing Optical communications Neural networks Communication systems Shannon theory Image and speech coding Data networks Source coding There are around 500 presentations, many of which should be of interest for people working in the cellular business. Afterall, cellular technology is a very hot field. A social programme, accompanying persons programme and post conference tours are offered. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Advance program, including registration form, is available from: ISIT 94 SEVU Congress Dept Phone: 47-73-595245 The Norwegian Institute of Technology Fax: 47-73-595150 N-7034 Trondheim, Norway E-mail: isit(a)sevu.unit.no --------------------------------------------------------------------------- E-mail copy of the advance technical program only, is available from: knut.grythe(a)delab.sintef.no torleiv.maseng(a)tde.lth.se ===================== Signature: Knut Grythe, SINTEF Delab N-7034 Trondheim, NORWAY. Teleph.:+47-73-592683 Fax:+47-73-591099 =====================

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