December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

dialup Mosaic!!!!??
by ccat＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Is there anything to prevent a dialup Mosaic for,say,Macs from being written? It would be _very_ popular... -Chris.

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Internet Backbone Traffic
by jdblair＠nextsrv.cas.muohio.EDU 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Someone in the past week asserted that, at $1000 a gig, one could store all of a year's worth of mail headers from the Internet backbone for under ~$8.7 million. (8700 gigs of data, I presume?) Sorry, I don't remember who it was, but I have some questions: 1) Where can I find an estimate of the mail volume on the net? 2) Are there any projections of internet usage (subscribers, mail users, etc.) over the next several years? I plan on holding an educational session on net legal issues, and I would like to point out the $8.7 million/year price tag on a mail header archive (scary potentials, to say the least), but I would like some sources to back me up if I assert it. Can anyone help me out? I'd really appreciate it. -john. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ John Blair <jdblair(a)nextsrv.cas.muohio.edu> phone: (513) 529-4879 Insert cool signature file that makes a trendy, yet bold and original statement about my cyberspace proficiency, then mentions that I'll send you my PGP public key if you want it, and you trust that I'm actually me.

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hey..
by Barbara L Marco 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

can ya'll unmsubscribe me?

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Key Server Info Requested
by jdblair＠nextsrv.cas.muohio.EDU 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I could possibly set up a PGP Key server on one of the machines here at Miami. Is there anyone listening that could inform me of where I can get the software and what would be required to set it up? -john. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ John Blair <jdblair(a)nextsrv.cas.muohio.edu> phone: (513) 529-4879 Insert cool signature file that makes a trendy, yet bold and original statement about my cyberspace proficiency, then mentions that I'll send you my PGP public key if you want it, and you trust that I'm actually me.

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Re: Internet Backbone Traffic
by jdwilson＠gold.chem.hawaii.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> > Someone in the past week asserted that, at $1000 a gig, one could store > all of a year's worth of mail headers from the Internet backbone for under > ~$8.7 million. (8700 gigs of data, I presume?) > > Sorry, I don't remember who it was, but I have some questions: > > 1) Where can I find an estimate of the mail volume on the net? > 2) Are there any projections of internet usage (subscribers, mail users, > etc.) over the next several years? > > I plan on holding an educational session on net legal issues, and I would > like to point out the $8.7 million/year price tag on a mail header > archive (scary potentials, to say the least), but I would like some sources to > back me up if I assert it. > > Can anyone help me out? I'd really appreciate it. > -john. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > John Blair <jdblair(a)nextsrv.cas.muohio.edu> phone: (513) 529-4879 > Insert cool signature file that makes a trendy, yet bold and original > statement about my cyberspace proficiency, then mentions that I'll send > you my PGP public key if you want it, and you trust that I'm actually me. > > > Telnet to internic.net and choose the gopher option. They have statistics of various types (and all kinds of other misc. info) -Jim

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Re: Internet Backbone Traffic
by ferguson＠icm1.icp.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

John Blair <jdblair(a)nextsrv.cas.muohio.edu> writes - > 1) Where can I find an estimate of the mail volume on the net? > 2) Are there any projections of internet usage (subscribers, mail users, > etc.) over the next several years? Vint Cerf, President of the Internet Society, projected some interesting figures at ONE BBSCON in Colorado recently. According to an article in the October BoardWatch magazine, ".....by December, 1993, there will be over 2 million ping-able hosts on some 46,000 registered IP networks in 22,000 registered domains strewn across some 91 countries. As of June, 1991, it is NOT primarily academic use, but actually that was the crossover point where commercial use applications exceeded academic use. Over 137 countries are now reachable via the Internet domain name e-mail system via UUCP, and the NSFNet backbone is now carrying some 7 TERABYTES of traffic per month. The Internet overall is growing at a rate of 12% per MONTH." You do the math. ,-) Cheers.

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Electronic Cash Card
by Mike Ingle 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Payments between individuals are carried out by inserting the card into a >pocket sized electronic wallet and making 6 key strokes. Customers and >retailers can deposit money into thier bank accounts over the phone. If A can transfer to B offline, and B can transfer to C without calling into the bank first, this has to be either security- through-obscurity or non-anonymous at some level. You could stack digital signatures to represent a transfer chain. But you can't pass anonymous digicash from one person to the other without the possibility of double spending. Unless of course the recipient is required to dial in before using the received cash, in which case it isn't offline. If this system is truly offline (i.e. not cryptographicall secured), somebody is going to figure out how to rip it off. >However, cards could be locked to prevent unauthorised use by tapping in a >four digit personal code. Once locked, the money could not be spent without ~~~~~~~~~~ >reentering the code. At least you don't have to worry about a brute-force search ;-)

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unsubscribe
by Richard Dixon 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

unsubscribe for now. sorry for the post but cypherpunks-request unsubscribe did not work. rdixon

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Distribution of Secure Drive
by edgar＠spectrx.saigon.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Nov 30, I sent a private msg to Eric Hughes asking him to put Mike Ingle's Secure Drive program for MSDOS SECDRV10.ZIP 68155 11-19-93 Secure Drive 1.0 with SRC. On the Soda.Berkeley FTP site and to advise me of its location. I have not received any response at all. I'm on a UUCP system, so I have to do FTP requests via an E-mail server, which is cumbersome if one has to "fish around" for a file one doesn't know the exact directory & filename for. I'm aware that Mike said he hadn't submitted Secure Drive to the FTP site because of "export concerns." But since this site is already distributing PGP, I wouldn't think this a "concern" to the site administration. So I'm asking any public-spirited Cypherpunk (perhaps even an anonymous one) to place Secure Drive on an FTP site or a site with an E-mail file server and to post the location of the file either here or to me privately. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3a iQCVAgUBLQg3Zt4nNf3ah8DHAQHWPwP7Bhr/FkuqS3FqkOszCdB97+P6WtKJPsYR d6VshdtFDm59JKsTcUk1V2wY6//5u+BhpFowgJ0qsGR/pl8Bzcl8upTn+RC2IBKH 07oxyJIlciiqYJ+ghlqnMZiPq/ZZ3Z/jHGTlOW1cAP2jHgT2Ok5kPhrr4mGYlAGO h1FfB8AJsDM= =tUFI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- edgar(a)spectrx.saigon.com (Edgar W. Swank) SPECTROX SYSTEMS +1.408.252.1005 Cupertino, Ca

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Re: NYT article on Mosaic today.
by haeberli＠apple.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Where can you get 'Mosaic'? >Walter A. Kehowski <wak(a)next0.math.pitt.edu> Try anonymous ftp to: ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu:/pub Then browse - and good luck! Thanks, Martin Martin Haeberli Apple Computer, Inc. MS 73-HA 20525 Mariani Avenue Cupertino, CA 95014 (408) 974-8562 (408) 974-8644 (fax) haeberli(a)apple.com haeberli(a)applelink.apple.com MartinH(a)online.apple.com

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