December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

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by Mixmaster 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Thu, 19 Nov 1998, Bernardo B. Terrado wrote: >| Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:46:14 +0800 (CST) >| From: Bernardo B. Terrado <bbt(a)mudspring.uplb.edu.ph> >| To: Jim Gillogly <jim(a)acm.org> >| Cc: cypherpunks(a)toad.com, coderpunks(a)toad.com >| Subject: manners and piracy >| >| I don't intend to pirate anything or make someone do it in any case. >| >| Well anyway thank you for your reply. >| What I'm trying to point out is this >| it is OK with me if you say "Take your piracy requests elsewhere" >| it is not OK with me if you say " ...fuck yourself" >| Bernardo Terrado: take your motherfucking, goddamned sorry warez ass to FUCKING hell! personally, i have nothing against an individual who wants to get some free shitty pirated software (*i'm* certainly NO warez pup, mind you), i'm a very open-minded anarchist/libertarian, i use Linux, GNUware, etc...(shit! those bloodsucking faggots at the IRS have enough to develop a profile of me now), but what *really* FUCKING offends me is when some cocksmoker like your sorry fucking "Rico Suave" self come onto this list and gets FUCKING offended by a motherFUCKing word like "FUCK". FUCK YOU Bernardo! no wait, F U C K Y O U, bernardo! FUCK YOU. Sincerely FUCK OFF, Bernardo, you stupid fucknut. -- PureFUCK, just another disgruntled taxpayer -- fingerFUCK Bernardo's mom for PureFUCK's PGP key >| gets? >| >| On Wed, 18 Nov 1998, Jim Gillogly wrote: >| >| > Bernardo B. Terrado wrote: >| > > > Could someone give me a copy of statgraphics for dos or windows? >| > > > I would gladly appreciate it. >| > >| > and then took issue with somebody obscenely taking him to task for >| > asking these lists for a pirated version of this software: >| > >| > > Well I thought this list was a list of intellectuals, not only good in >| > > hacks and coding and programming and the likes but also well "tailored" >| > > with their manners, >| > >| > Bernardo, this package costs in the neighborhood of $900 US. What makes >| > you think the mannered intellectuals you expect to find on these >| > lists would either condone or contribute to software piracy on this >| > scale? Or that they would not take violent verbal objection to the >| > suggestion that they would do so? >| > >| > Take your piracy requests elsewhere. These aren't warez lists. >| > -- >| > Jim Gillogly >| > 29 Blotmath S.R. 1998, 01:12 >| > 12.19.5.12.12, 4 Eb 5 Ceh, Ninth Lord of Night

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Oportunidad de Negocio Diferente
by itcmex＠fastnet.com.mx 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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EMSEC Docs
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Thanks to JM's pointers we offer three related May 1998 USAF docs on emissions security: AFI 33-203 - Emissisions Security http://jya.com/afi33-203.htm (61K) AFSSI 7010 - Emission Security Assessments http://jya.com/afssi-7010.htm (110K) AFSSM 7011 - Emission Security Countermeasures Reviews http://jya.com/afssm-7011.htm (515K) Or, a zipped package of the three: http://jya.com/afemsec.zip (146K) While there's a fair amount in the last two docs about security for classified NONSTOP and HIJACK systems, we'd welcome more detail to fill in the deleted parts.

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Re: Digital cockroaches, 5 IP's per body by 2000 [CNN]
by Michael Motyka 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> "Everyone will have an average of five IP objects on their body by > 2000," he predicted. > This is just blue sky space cadet baby wish babble. AKA : typical marketing spew. The kind of thing you can engage in when your house is paid off, your bank account is flush and you have a golden parachute. PureCrap*. Why would I voluntarily wear five independent tracking devices? So Louis Freeh can do telemetry and administer electroshock from Windows 2000? Move the bars closer, baby, I just love a cage. Please, yes I'll pay, just squeeze me. Everybody is trying to be the master of tomorrow's slave. ( phrase not my own ) Just say NO, Mike *All of the smell and none of the fertilizer, not even good for growing tomatoes. Anyone know a URL for Starion nee Comsec( 3DES telephones ) ?

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"The FBI has become part of the heart, soul and fabric of America"
by Frederick Burroughs 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The new Strategic Information an Operations Center is unveiled at FBI headquarters in Washington, D.C. Counterterrorism, computer and violent crime units have dibs on the center's resources. George Bush cut the ribbon and reporters were given one last look at tax dollars before they cross over the event horizon. Subject of this post is a quote from Attorney General Reno at the unveiling. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1998-11/21/077l-112198-idx.html Also, a press release from the DOJ (marked "Not For Release"), announcing a photo op of the Attorney General with Brady "Instant Check" employees at the FBI Complex at Clarksburg, WVa on thursday, Nov. 19. Photo op was announced Nov. 18, media responses were required close of business the same day. National Instant Check System for handgun, rifle and shotgun sales begins operation on Nov. 30. http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/1998/November/553at.htm I'm neutral on gun registration but the giant sucking sound from WVa is bothering my chickens.

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Re: How to make non-neutral charge batteries... (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 13:41:11 -0500 > From: Bill Stewart <bill.stewart(a)pobox.com> > Subject: Re: How to make non-neutral charge batteries... > At 09:13 PM 11/9/98 -0600, Jim Choate wrote: > >The two vertical plates above are not a capacitor. They simply represent > >some mechanism to hold charge, Leyden Jars for example. > > A Leyden Jar _IS_ a capacitor, which _IS_ a mechanism to hold charge. No shit Bill..... > Capacitors don't have to come from a factory in plastic or ceramic packaging; > they're simply two (or more) conductive surfaces separated by insulation; > that insulation can be air (or probably even vacuum), though there are > much better insulators around, which commercial capacitors normally use. No shit twice Bill, I make mine for my Tesla Coil out of copper sheeting and BIG (3ft x 6ft) plates of glass that were scrapped from a constuction site. Know what? If you take the Layden Jar, put a charge on the inside plate and then remove the OUTSIDE plate which is required to get it there, IT STILL HOLDS A CHARGE. Don't believe it? Try this: Take one plane of glass and two copper sheets. Place a glass between alternating copper layers thusly: Cu > ----------------------- --------------------------- < glass ----------------------- < Cu Then place a charge on it by using a standard battery. Then remove the metal plates leaving just the glass. Where do YOU believe the charge is stored, on the metal plates? If so....BUUUUUZZZZZZZ....wrong answer. If it were so we'd get a discharge if we connect the two metal sheets together after removing from the glass plate, you won't. If you put two metal plates on the glass and connect them again you'll get a spark. The charge RESTS ON THE SURFACE OF THE INSULATOR, the metal plates are there so that we can get an even charge distribution QUICKLY across the insulating dielectric. You could do it using just a couple of wires touching opposite sides of the glass but it will take a whopping long time to get the charge on the dielectric plate because it's an insulator and it has very few surface electrons (one of the characteristics of an insulator) to help distribute it. I'll let you in on another little secret. If you take two Leyden Jars and charge the inside plates of the two jars alternately and then connect them with a wire you'll get a spark clearly demonstrating charge flow, even if the outside plates aren't connected. ____________________________________________________________________ Lawyers ask the wrong questions when they don't want the right answers. Scully (X-Files) The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Another charge question for you physics genius'es
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Get yourself a 10,000 mike electrolytic cap. I prefer one of the cylindrical blue ones that have the 8-32 threaded terms on the top. Put a screw in each terminal. Short the screws with commen copper connection wire. Let it sit for several days to be sure there is no charge on it. Then remove the wire and let it sit for a couple of weeks. Then I dare you to touch it to your tongue. The question is: Where did that charge that just knocked the shit out of you come from? ____________________________________________________________________ Lawyers ask the wrong questions when they don't want the right answers. Scully (X-Files) The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Error Condition Re: Another charge question for you physics genius'es (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I guess Bill's decided to play around with his filtering software.... Forwarded message: > From cypherpunks(a)openpgp.net Sat Nov 21 16:02:59 1998 > From: cypherpunks(a)openpgp.net > Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 16:58:50 -0500 > Message-Id: <199811212202.QAA16288(a)einstein.ssz.com> > Errors-To: whgiii(a)openpgp.net > Reply-To: cypherpunks(a)openpgp.net > Originator: cypherpunks(a)openpgp.net > Sender: cypherpunks(a)openpgp.net > Precedence: bulk > To: ravage(a)einstein.ssz.com > Cc: whgiii(a)openpgp.net > Subject: Error Condition Re: Another charge question for you physics genius'es > X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0 -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas > X-Loop: ssz.com > Content-Type: text > X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] > X-Loop: openpgp.net > > > We are sorry, but this system sensed the following request which may have been > inadvertedly sent to this list: > > GET YOURSELF A 10,000 MIKE ELECTROLYTIC CAP. I PREFER ONE OF THE CYLINDRICAL > > If your posting was intentional, please accept our apologies and resend your > mail message, making sure you do not include anything that may look like a > request in the first line of the body of the actual message. If this was > indeed a request please resend it to listproc > Your entire message > is copied below. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Get yourself a 10,000 mike electrolytic cap. I prefer one of the cylindrical > blue ones that have the 8-32 threaded terms on the top. Put a screw in each > terminal. Short the screws with commen copper connection wire. Let it sit > for several days to be sure there is no charge on it. > > Then remove the wire and let it sit for a couple of weeks. Then I dare you > to touch it to your tongue. > > The question is: > > Where did that charge that just knocked the shit out of you come from? > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > Lawyers ask the wrong questions when they don't want > the right answers. > > Scully (X-Files) > > The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate > Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com > www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 > -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > >

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Re: Error Condition Re: Another charge question for you physics genius'es (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > From: "William H. Geiger III" <whgiii(a)openpgp.net> > Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 17:05:10 -0500 > Subject: Re: Error Condition Re: Another charge question for you physics genius'es (fwd) > In <199811212205.QAA16339(a)einstein.ssz.com>, on 11/21/98 > at 04:05 PM, Jim Choate <ravage(a)einstein.ssz.com> said: > > >I guess Bill's decided to play around with his filtering software.... > > No, listproc has some internal filtering to prevent message loops, subscribe requests, error messages, ect from going out to the main list. Unfortunately these settings can not be adjusted in the list settings but are set at compile time for the software. > > I have a shitload of error messages in my mailbox I have to sort through and figure out wether listproc is going to be too much of a PITA. I may have to get majordomo installed on the system and use that if this becomes too much of a problem (I really don't have time to be continually babysitting the system). > > Ahhh the joy and fun of running a CP node. :) :) Good luck and apologies for my incorrect conclusion. ____________________________________________________________________ Lawyers ask the wrong questions when they don't want the right answers. Scully (X-Files) The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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