December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Why do we need remailers, anyway?
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Reeza! wrote: > > ... the First Adulterer/Purjurer, you question why I > call him this > No, I'm questioning why you're telling *me* about it. -- an anonymous AOL32 user

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A Number Theory Problem....
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

There is a desert which is 1000 miles across. There is a camel who can carry 1000 bananas maximum. The camel eats 1 banana per mile travelled. The camel has a total of 3000 bananas to begin with. What is the maximum number of bananas that the camel can get across to the other side uneaten? ____________________________________________________________________ The seeker is a finder. Ancient Persian Proverb The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- -------------------------------------------------------------------- A: 533

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Re: propose: `cypherpunks license' (Re: Wanted: Twofish source code)
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Richard, you seem to be missing one of the major reasons behind the little schism developing here. You say that proprietary software developers shouldn't expect the GNU project to help them for nothing in return. Thing is, Cypherpunks *want* to help with crypto -- even if those we help make proprietary software, and even if we get nothing for our help -- and if GNU folks don't do that, well, we just won't be GNU folks. (More generally (and more abrasively), we'd like to make a license suited to our goals -- meaning one promoting placement of easy-to-use cryptography wherever it can be useful (including (gasp) in proprietary software) and discouraging the spread of incompetently-done, weak, or escrowed crypto -- and the GNU GPL just isn't it) By the way, regarding the GNU GPL's interaction with export regs: In general, the fact that action A is illegal does not mean you must include a requirement in your distribution terms not to do A. ... I agree that what you say is correct and, logically, should apply to crypto regs*, but in practice, failing to include the requirement you mention is asking for trouble. Ask Cypherpunks if you want to know more about that, as I believe elaboration in this post would draw <ahem>s from our beloved retromoderator. * Logically, crypto regs shouldn't even exist in a marginally free society, but, again, this is deep in <ahem> territory.

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17 Dec '03

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Netsurfer Digest: Vol. 04, #29
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text From: editor-bounce(a)netsurf.com Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 19:22:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: smtp2.zocalo.net: editor set sender to editor-bounce(a)netsurf.com using -f Subject: Netsurfer Digest: Vol. 04, #29 Mime-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk NETSURFER DIGEST More Signal, Less Noise Volume 04, Issue 29 Wednesday, September 30, 1998 <snip> BREAKING SURF Credit Card Data Compromised at Online Auction Sites Mark Dodd owns AuctionWatch, a neat auction site information center. He was running searches on the major search engines and by sheer accident uncovered a security hole in some software used by many of the online auction houses. It's a big one, too. If the auction site misconfigures its software, and apparently many do, the first happy hacker to come along can steal its customers' credit card numbers and addresses. Mark went to CNet with the story, which warned many of the affected sites of the potential havoc and scooped up a good story in the process. Remember, the safety of your credit card data is only as good as the security savvy of the webmaster guarding it. AuctionWatch: <http://www.auctionwatch.com/> http://www.auctionwatch.com/ CNet: <http://www.news.com/SpecialFeatures/0,5,26760,00.html> http://www.news.com/SpecialFeatures/0,5,26760,00.html <http://adex3.flycast.com/server/socket/127.0.0.1:2800/click/NetsurferDigest… ernetnews/123456> New Hacker Tactic: Slow, Coordinated Attacks from Multiple Locations A clever new twist in the evolutionary arms race between hackers and online security forces gives us an excuse to bring you this fascinating Web site. Hackers, it seems, have discovered herding behavior. Their latest tactic is to coordinate probes and attacks against online sites from a large number of separate machines and over a long period of time. By limiting probes to rates as low as two per hour and dispersing their sources, hackers can probe beneath current security software's threshold of detection. The Navy Cooperative Intrusion Detection Evaluation and Response team (CIDER) just released a report on the technique. The CIDER site is also worth visiting for information on security and intrusion detection software projects, notably a database comparing commercial and government tools. Cool spook stuff. CIDER: <http://www.nswc.navy.mil/ISSEC/CID/> http://www.nswc.navy.mil/ISSEC/CID/ Report: <http://www.nswc.navy.mil/ISSEC/CID/co-ordinated_analysis.txt> http://www.nswc.navy.mil/ISSEC/CID/co-ordinated_analysis.txt <snip> CONTACT AND SUBSCRIPTION INFORMATION Netsurfer Digest Home Page: Subscribe, Unsubscribe: Frequently Asked Questions: Submission of Newsworthy Items: Letters to the Editor: Advertiser and Sponsor Inquiries: Netsurfer Communications: <http://www.netsurf.com/nsd/>http://www.netsurf.com/nsd/ <http://www.netsurf.com/nsd/subscribe.html>http://www.netsurf.com/nsd/subscribe. html <http://www.netsurf.com/nsd/ndfaq.html>http://www.netsurf.com/nsd/ndfaq.html <mailto:pressroom@netsurf.com>pressroom(a)netsurf.com <mailto:editor@netsurf.com>editor(a)netsurf.com <mailto:sales@netsurf.com>sales(a)netsurf.com <http://www.netsurf.com/>http://www.netsurf.com/ CREDITS Publisher: Arthur Bebak Editor: Lawrence Nyveen Contributing Editor: Production Manager: Bill Woodcock Copy Editor: Elvi Dalgaard Netsurfer Communications, Inc. President: Arthur Bebak Vice President: S.M. Lieu Writers and Netsurfers: Sue Abbott Regan Avery Kirsty Brooks Judith David Joanne Eglash Lisa Hamilton Jay Mills Elizabeth Rollins Kenneth Schulze NETSURFER DIGEST © 1998 Netsurfer Communications, Inc. All rights reserved. NETSURFER DIGEST is a trademark of Netsurfer Communications, Inc. --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)philodox.com> Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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Re: A Number Theory Problem
by Michael Motyka 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> There is a desert which is 1000 miles across. There is a camel who can carry > 1000 bananas maximum. The camel eats 1 banana per mile travelled. The camel > has a total of 3000 bananas to begin with. What is the maximum number of > bananas that the camel can get across to the other side uneaten? My camels don't understand/can't eat fractional bananas. My first camel put 2000 bananas at 200 miles then 1001 bananas at 533 miles then left 1 banana at mile 533 and sprinted for home, arriving with 533 bananas My second camel put 2000 bananas at 200 miles then 1001 bananas at 533 miles then ate 1 banana at mile 533 and found the energy to move the 1000 bananas to mile 534 and sprinted for home, arriving with 534 bananas My third camel put 2000 bananas at 200 miles then 1001 bananas at 533 miles then ate 1 banana at mile 533 and found the energy to move the 1000 bananas to mile 534 and sprinted for home, arriving with 535 bananas figuring he'd pay for his last mile with credit. My fourth camel, the biggest strongest camel, was already waiting at the destination and charged each of the other camels a 50% banana tax, rounded up to the nearest banana, plus a 10 banana collection fee and left with 832 bananas and didn't have to do anything but paperwork while the other camels were now short of bananas and had to find a new way to get more bananas. Mike

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IP: Wired News: Report of military personnel medical records hackis FALSE
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Delivered-To: ignition-point(a)majordomo.pobox.com From: Bridget973(a)aol.com Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 22:10:54 EDT To: ignition-point(a)majordomo.pobox.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: IP: Wired News: Report of military personnel medical records hack is FALSE Sender: owner-ignition-point(a)majordomo.pobox.com Precedence: list Reply-To: Bridget973(a)aol.com http://www.wired.com/news/news/technology/story/15372.html Pentagon Takes Back Hack Wired News Report 7:45 p.m. 1.Oct.98.PDT The US Department of Defense said Thursday last week's report of crackers penetrating military Web sites and altering soldiers' medical files were inaccurate. Instead, a "Red Team" of American military computer experts carried out a simulated attack designed to test the security of the Pentagon's computer networks, said a spokeswoman for the Defense Department. "The simulated attack is part of the recent exercises to assess the danger to unclassified material, such as personnel records," Suzan Hansen said Thursday. The confusion arose last week, when Money told the Armed Forces Communications and Electronics Association Conference that crackers had accessed a medical database in the southeastern United States and changed blood types in soldiers' records. Hansen said that Money was merely referring to a Red Team exercise, not a real cyberattack. At the conference, Money reportedly said that the Red Team exercise prompted the Pentagon to develop a more restrictive security policy on the type of information that will be stored in military computers connected to the Internet. -- bridget973(a)aol.com Black Helicopters on the Horizon: http://members.xoom.com/bridget973 ********************************************** To subscribe or unsubscribe, email: majordomo(a)majordomo.pobox.com with the message: (un)subscribe ignition-point email@address ********************************************** www.telepath.com/believer ********************************************** --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)philodox.com> Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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IP: Americans for Computer Privacy Call for Action in Congress
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Delivered-To: ignition-point(a)majordomo.pobox.com X-Sender: believer(a)telepath.com Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1998 09:14:11 -0500 To: believer(a)telepath.com From: believer(a)telepath.com Subject: IP: Americans for Computer Privacy Call for Action in Congress Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-ignition-point(a)majordomo.pobox.com Precedence: list Reply-To: believer(a)telepath.com Source: US Newswire http://www.usnewswire.com/topnews/Current_Releases/1002-121.txt Americans for Computer Privacy Call for Action in Congress U.S. Newswire 2 Oct 14:30 Americans for Computer Privacy Call for Action in 106th Congress To: Assignment Desk, Daybook Editor, Technology Writer Contact: Sue Richard for Americans for Computer Privacy, 202-625-1256, E-mail: suer(At)dittusgroup.com News Advisory: WHAT: Americans for Computer Privacy (ACP) will issue a coalition letter to House and Senate leaders urging legislation in the next Congress that will build on the reforms in encryption policy recently announced by the Administration. ACP will also report on the coalition's growth and future plans, as well as the response to its on-line advertising initiative. WHO: ACP Executive Director Ed Gillespie; Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.); Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif.); Rep. Sam Gejdenson (D-Conn.); Rep. Rick White (R-Wash.); Sen. John Ashcroft (R-Mo.); Sen. Conrad Burns (R-Mont.); Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.); Robert Holleyman, Business Software Alliance; Jerry Berman, Center for Democracy and Technology; and Grover Norquist, Americans for Tax Reform. WHEN: Wednesday, Oct. 7, 11 a.m. WHERE: Room HC-7, U.S. Capitol, Washington, D.C. BACKGROUND: Since its formal launch in March 1998, ACP has worked closely with Congress and the Administration on encryption policy reform. While ACP acknowledges that progress has been made, the coalition believes the encryption issue is far from resolved. Americans for Computer Privacy brings together more than 100 companies and 40 associations representing financial services, manufacturing, telecommunications, high-tech and transportation, as well as law enforcement, civil-liberty, pro-family and taxpayer groups. ACP supports policies that advance the rights of American citizens to encode information without fear of government intrusion, and advocates the lifting of current export restrictions on U.S.-made encryption. For more information on ACP, please visit our website at www.computer privacy.org. A cybercast of the press conference will be available on the site on Thursday, Oct. 8. -0- /U.S. Newswire 202-347-2770/ 10/02 14:30 Copyright 1998, U.S. Newswire ----------------------- NOTE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ----------------------- ********************************************** To subscribe or unsubscribe, email: majordomo(a)majordomo.pobox.com with the message: (un)subscribe ignition-point email@address ********************************************** www.telepath.com/believer ********************************************** --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)philodox.com> Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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Internet Sales Tax Killed [CNN]
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Note that I've added a few comments/notes between the supplied quoted sections. As always I've deleted for brevity. Forwarded message: > X-within-URL: http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1998/10/02/internet.tax.ap/ > By CURT ANDERSON > AP Tax Writer > > WASHINGTON (AP) Legislation allowing states to force mail order and > Internet businesses to collect sales taxes failed in the Senate Friday > as debate began on how to tax cyberspace commerce. > > Senators voted 65-30 to table, or kill, an amendment authorizing any > state to require companies with significant catalog, mail order or > Internet sales to collect their sales tax and send it back to the > state. > > The sponsor, Sen. Dale Bumpers, noted that every business operating in > a state with a sales tax must already collect and remit the revenue. > He said the amendment effectively would reverse a 1992 Supreme Court > decision preventing states from enforcing sales taxes on companies > located outside their borders. Section 8. The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States; No Tax or Duty shall be laid on Articles exported from any State. (Note that it doesn't say "Congress shall make no law..." but rather is an absolute prohibition of taxes/duties on exports of states. It therefore falls under the "prohibited" clause of the 10th.) > "If they choose to have a sales tax, the federal government should > allow them to enforce it," said Bumpers, D-Ark. > > Opponents, however, called the measure a hidden tax increase and were > able easily to defeat it for the sixth straight year. > > "Since this tax has never been collected, there's only one way to view > it," said Commerce Committee Chairman John McCain, R-Ariz. As unconstitutional. [remainder deleted] ____________________________________________________________________ The seeker is a finder. Ancient Persian Proverb The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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NT5 Ships 96 years early!!!
by Sunder 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:14:15 -0400 From: Salvatore Denaro <sal(a)panix.com> Subject: NT5 Ships 96 years early >From the MS timeline: http://www.microsoft.com/WindowsNT5/workstation/default.asp WINDOWS NT SERVER 5.0 DECEMBER 30, 1899 -- Find out about Windows NT Server 5.0 and how it builds upon the strengths of version 4.0 to provide a platform that is faster, more reliable, and easier to manage. -- Salvatore Denaro sal(a)panix.com

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