December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Political purges and Bill C-68
by Jean-Francois Avon 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi to all of you. I know most of you personnally, except for the posts to mailing lists and public organisms. ------------------ beginning of letter --------------- Yesterday night, around 2am, I was unable to sleep and surfing the TV channels up until I fell on a movie on the ShowCase channel. This channel is devoted to repertoire cinema and less mainstream movies. As I flick to this channel, I see something I can't take my eyes off for it's overwhelming revolting topic: a bunch of corpses are on a dolly, each of one being tied by the feet to a crane cable and quickly, efficiently taken away to a big heap of corpses. Then, a lineup of peoples, waiting in line to pass before some officer. They are promplty urged to take off their clothes, aligned to face a wall and shot in the back of the head. And this continues like an dis-assembly chain. I did not bear more than a few minutes of the thing. During thoses few minutes, maybe five or six rows of five peoples were slaughtered. Peoples of all walk of life, of all ages, young and olds, male and females, beautiful and ugly, strugling or resigned were executed by an indifferent row of unintelligent and/or psychotic thugs that simply "executed orders". There was the firing squad captain that did not shoot but that gave the firing orders, so that the thugs could sleep without remorse. There was their superior supervising the whole slaughterhouse operation and finally, there was the political supervisor, dressed in the "de rigueur" grey with grey hat. This operation was clearly in the context of some political purge. I did not comprehend the full details of the context, but it appeared that it was happening during the russian revolution, or more possibly in East Germany after WW-II. The executed peoples were helpless, at the mercy of thoses thugs because they had no way to respond to death threat by death threat. Most of them had accepted their fate and walked to their death attempting to defend themselves with calm reason, useless in this context since the firing squad was composed of idiots and psychotics. One girls pleaded for her life and her great beauty made the animals of the firing squad hesitate, but was promptly shot in the head from a distance by the political supervisor. And it dawned on me that it could never had happened in a society where gun ownership was unregulated, and it also dawned on me that it is the essence of the natural outcome of all gun regulation/registration schemes. That to provide that kind of power to the ruling political class is the ultimate goal of gun registration and regulation, notwithstanding that they chose to exert it or not. Very soon (in principle on october 1st 1998), under the new bill C-68 , you will be declared a criminal in the full sense of the law, just as if you had killed somebody, if you don't register your guns (or don't plan to do so before the limit date comes up in a few years). Putting aside for a moment the tremendous costs associated with that C-68 nonsense (around 2 billions $ wasted money) we must realize that private law-abiding firearm owners account for 0.08% of all homicides commited with a firearms. So, I ask because I consider it of extreme importance, what's the ULTIMATE purpose of declaring criminal seven millions of individuals who wants nothing more than lead peacefull lifes? ----------- end of letter -------------- Jean-Francois Avon, Montreal, Canada Hitler, Stalin, Pinochet, PolPot and every other notorious psychotic butchers insisted on a tight control of privately owned firearms. I wonder why? "nobody runs faster than a bullet" - supposedly from Idi Amin Dada Jean-Francois Avon, B.Sc. Physics, Montreal, Canada DePompadour, Société d'Importation Ltée Limoges fine porcelain and french crystal JFA Technologies, R&D physicists & engineers Instrumentation & control, LabView programming PGP keys: http://bs.mit.edu:8001/pks-toplev.html PGP ID:C58ADD0D:529645E8205A8A5E F87CC86FAEFEF891 PGP ID:5B51964D:152ACCBCD4A481B0 254011193237822C

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US Crypto Update Fact Sheet
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://library.whitehouse.gov/PressReleases-plain.cgi?date=0&briefing=4 The White House Briefing Room September 16, 1998 FACT SHEET THE WHITE HOUSE Office of the Press Secretary ______________________________________________________________________ For Immediate Release September 16, 1998 FACT SHEET Administration Updates Encryption Policy Exports of 56-bit DES and equivalent products (hardware and software) will be streamlined (under license exception). Requirements for key recovery plans are eliminated. Exports of unlimited strength encryption products (with or without key recovery) will be streamlined (under license exception) to certain industries. The sectors are: Subsidiaries of U.S. Firms, worldwide (except seven terrorist nations). Insurance companies to the same 45 countries recently approved for exports to banks and financial institution exports. Health and medical organizations (including civilian government health agencies) in the same 45 countries. Does not include biochemical/pharmaceutical manufacturers. On-line merchants for client-server applications, in the same 45 countries, with the purpose of securing electronic transactions between merchants and their customers. Does not include manufacturers and distributors of items controlled on the U.S. munitions list. Key Recovery products will continue to be exportable under license exception worldwide (except seven terrorist nations). Review of foreign key recovery agents is eliminated. Exports of "recoverable" products will be approved to most commercial firms, and their wholly-owned subsidiaries, in a broad range of countries under encryption licensing arrangements. This group of countries covers most major commercial markets including Western Europe, Japan, and Australia. The policy does not include service providers and manufacturers and distributors of items controlled on the U.S. munitions list. Exports to end users or destinations outside this policy are possible on a case-by-case basis. Prior to export, products are subject to a one-time product technical review. # # #

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Re: US Updates Crypto Policy
by Information Security 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> From: John Young <jya(a)pipeline.com> > > http://library.whitehouse.gov/PressReleases-plain.cgi?date=0&briefing=3 > > THE WHITE HOUSE > ____________________________________________________________________ > For Immediate Release > September 16, 1998 > > Administration Updates Encryption Policy [snip] > Very strong encryption with any key length (with or without key > recovery) will now be permitted for export, under license exception, to > several industry sectors. [snip] > On-line merchants in 45 countries will be able to use robust U.S. > encryption products to protect their on-line electronic commerce > transactions with their customers over the Internet. On-line merchants? Anyone care to try and purchase US-strong crypto from overseas for their WWW business? Which crypto products? What are the minimum "business" requirements? ;-) ---guy How long does it take to get approval?

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Re: Clinton's fake apologies (fwd)
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Jim Choate wrote: > > > Declan McCullagh <declan(a)well.com> wrote: > > lying under oath is perjury, whether you like it or not. > > As rare as it is, I agree with Declan here. If Clinton would lie under oath > about a non-crime (ie sex between consenting adults) what would he do if > faced with a real issue? > > He should have said "Yeah, I had sex with her. What business is it of > yours?". > Presumably he should lie to protect the state. So lieing per se isn't the problem. It is the use of the privilege where it doesn't apply that upsets you. Murky water for impeachment, methinks. Furthermore, we have gone from the CDA to government publication of pornography in short order. Farbeit for any cypherpunk to complain.

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Your new password
by sixdegrees 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Name: Jolly CyberSnot sixdegrees password: suchlamp Congratulations Jolly. You're well on your way to becoming a full sixdegrees(tm) member. Here is your member password: suchlamp. Use it to log-in on the home page at the sixdegrees Web site, http://www.sixdegrees.com. We'll ask you for a little more information to complete your registration, and then you'll be ready to start networking. It's important that you return to the site and log-in. Your membership will not be complete until you do so. Once you've successfully logged in with your password, just go to Personal Profile and you'll be able to choose your own password. Thanks for becoming part of sixdegrees. We're looking forward to seeing you at the site. ==================================================================== PLEASE NOTE: All replies to this address are processed by a computer. If you believe you received this e-mail in error, and it was not your intention to become a sixdegrees member, or if you have any problems, questions or requests send an e-mail to issues(a)sixdegrees.com and someone will get back to you as soon as possible. ==================================================================== E.SI.BAM.1

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Re: Clinton's fake apologies (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: 16 Sep 1998 16:47:28 -0000 > From: Anonymous <nobody(a)remailer.ch> > Subject: Re: Clinton's fake apologies (fwd) > Presumably he should lie to protect the state. Then don't take the oath: To tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. So lieing per se isn't the problem. > It is the use of the privilege where it doesn't apply that upsets you. No, it's the fact that he took an oath to tell the truth and didn't. Murky water > for impeachment, methinks. Then you don't think very well. ____________________________________________________________________ The seeker is a finder. Ancient Persian Proverb The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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No Subject
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: A personal response to your email to sixdegrees
by Jan Dobrucki 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Well... so far this is the longest response from sixdegrees I've read on cypherpunks... those guys are such numbskulls... can't they just go to the cypherpunk homepage, at: ftp://ftp.csua.berkeley.edu/pub/cypherpunks/Home.html get the info to get themselves of the cypherpunk mailing list...? And about folks on the list... seems awfully quite... Ende Jan D. P.S. :I remember this from a comic film... robo something... "Information is Ammunition" Mark Salamon wrote: > > (I was not sure which email address to send this to, as the return > address was: nobody(a)replay.com. I also do not know who to address this > email to.) > > I am the WHOIS contact at sixdegrees you sent this email to, and since > this is a peronal reply to your email, it is certainly NOT spam and I > would appreciate it if you would take the time to read it and respond. > > I am very confused by your email. I understand that you do not wish to > receive emails from sixdegrees, but it is very easy to solve this > problem. If anyone ever sponsors you for sixdegrees, simply reply to > the email and put the word "remove" in the header. (This is pretty > standard stuff across the Internet, as I am sure you are aware.) If > that occurs, in the future we will not send emails to the email address > that received the original email from us. (remainder of the nonsense I don't care to read is cut)

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It's finally over (was Re: Explanation of Harald Fragner and cypherpunks)
by Bart Troyan 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---Mark Salamon <mark(a)sixdegrees.com> wrote: > > Thanks for the reply. I have now received about 10 such replies. We > will take them to heart, remove the cypherpunks and attempt to deal with > the mailing list issue in an intelligent way. > > And thanks, but we have enough magazine subscriptions already. :) > > Mark > > Bart Troyan wrote: > > > > OK, here's what happened. Someone signed up for sixdegrees using one or > > more of the cypherpunks addresses as their address, either deliberately in > > order to cause problems like this, or accidentally, not realizing what > > would happen. > > > > The real-world analogy would be for me and all my friends to get a bunch of > > magazines, rip out all those postage-paid subscription flaps, and fill out > > your name and address on each of them, then you'd have unwanted trial > > subscriptions to lots and lots of magazines. > > > > hmmmm... > > MacroView > > 90 William Street, Suite 301 > > New York, NY 10038 > > > > Wouldn't that suck? Can you imagine if 1000 people did that to you all the > > same day? (this is *not* a threat, just an example). You'd have bags and > > bags of zines and bills coming in daily... > > > > As I am sure you are aware, the net makes it REALLY EASY to screw someone > > over like that, by signing them up for all sorts of things with little > > effort. Even if you remove all the cypherpunks addresses, someone can come > > along and do it again. There must be a permanent solution...how about > > hardcoding a block on signing up with an address containing the string > > "cypherpunks" in your email software? Why should thousands of us on > > cypherpunks all have to do our own filtering to delete everything from > > @sixdegrees.com and still have to waste all that bandwidth when one site is > > the source of all of it, and it could be eradicated with a simple > > programming change? > > > > I assure you this is not the last time you'll see this problem occur--there > > are thousands of mailing lists out there, and lots of vindictive former > > subscribers for each one that would love to annoy everyone on the list for > > a while... and signing a list up for sixdegrees does the trick quite > > efficiently. > > > > -Bart > > > > Mark Salamon wrote: > > > What is confusing to me is that the email you received from sixdegrees > > > (with the subject: Harald Fragner) is one that would be sent ONLY to a > > > CONFIRMED sixdegrees user. That means that once upon a time, whether > > > you remember or not, you joined sixdegrees (as have over 1,000,000 > > > people to date). It also appears that you listed Harald Fragner as a >

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128 bit or 40 bit?
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Being outside North America, I have an "export" version of Internet Explorer/Netscape Navigator. These offer 40 bit encryption. (40 bit RC4, I understand). My financial institution has a 128 bit Verisign certificate. To my surprise, they claim this offers 128 bit encryption to /me/. [in transactions to https://secure.mybank.com.xx] I thought my 40 bit client limited the security to 40 bits. Who is right? Please explain. TIA

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