December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

No Subject
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, There seems to be a problem posting anonymous messages to cypherpunks(a)ssz.com. I have posted several messages over the past week and *none* of them have showed up. I am posting this as a test message. I am sending it to the following addresses: cypherpunks(a)toad.com cypherpunks(a)ssz.com cypherpunks(a)algebra.com cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net I will add the server name to the subject line for each post to test which messages are being delivered and which are not. I AM TOTOCUS!!

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Re: Joe Farah 9/14 (Pppbbbttt)
by Richard.Bragg＠ssa.co.uk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>>Almost 60 percent of those polled said they thought Clinton was fit to be >>president. By what standard? That's the trouble. Americans have no >>standards -- no unchangeable yardsticks by which they measure right and >>wrong, truth from fiction. >By *their* standard, by their own personal judgement. There's no moral >yardstick, and God help us if there is in the future. Who makes the >yardstick? Who sits down and says, "This is the moral standard in this >country, abide by it or suffer the consequences"? Sorry but there are absolutes and there is a moral yardstick. Whether this is accepted or not is beside the point. There has to be absolutes otherwise any action can be excused (or damned). The real cry should be "God help us to instigate Your yardstick". God doesn't change and neither does His measure. 1)Love the Lord, with all your heart, with all you soul with all your mind and all your strength 2)Love you neibour as yourself. Everything else hangs on these.

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Re: Zipped Starr Report
by Terry Leininger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>You are all writing about Clinton and Monica et al. Dunno what this does here >but anyway, let me add to the noise: >Is it possible to download the Starr report somewhere, zipped and prepared for >offline reading? Try http://www.angelfire.com/wa/starreport/home.html Couldn't help it...

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CTIA Daily News from WOW-COM - September 15, 1998
by CTIA Daily News 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: The DES Analytic Crack Project
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Eric Michael Cordian, emc(a)wire.insync.net, writes: > The concerns are generally that > we will experience an unexpected "combinatoric explosion" in the > higher round problems Unexpected by you, perhaps, but expected by everyone else. The complexity of the expressions should increase exponentially with the number of rounds. Extrapolating from two and four round results to eight and sixteen is the wrong model. (You can artificially suppress this by introducing new variables for each round, but that doesn't change the underlying complexity of the problem.) Can't you come up with a back-of-the-envelope estimate for the number of terms in your sixteen round expression? Even without fully optimized S-box expressions this information would be useful. If it is greater than the number of atoms on Earth then it would be a strong hint that this approach won't work. If you really want to attract money you need some kind of numbers to show that the approach has a prayer of working. Show the size of the problem you will get, estimate how much improvement you'll get with your improved S-box representations, compare it with the problems tackled by available combinatorial algorithms. You should be able to do this with a few hours of work, at least to show that the basic concept is sound (or unsound).

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No Subject
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, There seems to be a problem posting anonymous messages to cypherpunks(a)ssz.com. I have posted several messages over the past week and *none* of them have showed up. I am posting this as a test message. I am sending it to the following addresses: cypherpunks(a)toad.com cypherpunks(a)ssz.com cypherpunks(a)algebra.com cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net I will add the server name to the subject line for each post to test which messages are being delivered and which are not. I AM TOTOCUS!!

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CHRYSLER AWARD NOMINATION STATEMENT
by bill payne 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

CHRYSLER AWARD NOMINATION STATEMENT American forefathers drafted the Constitution and laws of our country shortly after having suffered injustice. Fresh in their minds were strategies used by their oppressors. Writers of the Constitution and laws anticipated ways subvert our system. Therefore, our forefathers designed safeguards into our legal system to prevent future injustice. But these safeguards DONT appear to be working today. Morales and Payne designed a strategy using the National Security Agency [NSA], Sandia National Laboratories, the US Federal Court System, and publication on Internet to illustrate how the US government system has deteriorated. Arthur Morales WAS a supervisor at Sandia Labs in 1991. Morales and Manuel Garcia organized a class action lawsuit on behalf of minority and women against Sandia. Sandia settled Morales and Garcias lawsuit. Department of Energy acknowledged from Freedom of Information Act [FOIA] requests that as of December 31, 1995 Morales cost Sandia $567,137 in legal fees. Sandia retaliated against Morales. Morales sued Sandia in New Mexico District Court. Morales lost William Payne wrote a technical report describing deficiencies NSAs cryptographic algorithms http://jya.com/da/whpda.htm. Sandia transferred Payne to break electronics locks for the Federal Bureau of Invesitgation [FBI]. Payne refused to do illegal work. http://www.jya.com/whp1.htm. Payne sued Sandia in Federal Court. Payne lost and court records were sealed. FBI agent Bernardo Perez led a class action lawsuit against the FBI for race discrimination against Hispanic FBI agents. http://www.usdoj.gov/osg/1995/w951482w.txt Perez won. Perez was assigned agent-in-charge of the FBI in Albuquerque for settlement. But Perez lost money. Morales and Payne learned that the FBI extorted an inexpensive from Perez by telling Perez that the FBI was GUARANTEED to win on appeal in Federal Circuit. With Perez and others knowledge of circuit courts, Morales and Payne appealed their respective cases pro se to the Tenth Circuit. In Paynes case Sandia failed to submit its Brief of the Appellees on time. Then falsified its certificate of service when Payne filed to remand. In Morales case Sandia submitted a deficient Brief of the Appellees which was returned, missed the filing date, and failed to serve Morales with its late brief. Payne and Morales both won at the Tenth Circuit. But judges awarded the wins to Sandia. All attempts by Morales and Payne to get copies of the docket for their respective Tenth Circuit cases failed. Therefore, Morales and Payne hatched a plan to get the dockets and expose government misconduct. Payne previously made FOIA requests to NSA for copies of messages and translations given to Iraq during the Iraq/Iran war, copies of Libyan messages intercepted by NSA, and NSA cryptographic algorithms Payne thought contained deficiencies. Morales and Payne sued NSA pro se for the documents. Lawsuit progress was broadcast on Internet through e-mail and http://www.aci.net/kalliste/speccoll.htm http://jya.com/whpfiles.htm And Payne wrote Black and White Test of Cryptographic Algorithms criticizing the US governments crypto contest. http://zolatimes.com. Morales and Payne FINALLY got copies of dockets from their respective cases from the Tenth Circuit using Internet as a an innovative tool. 9/15/98 10:39 AM John Young J Orlin Grabbe Zola and OTHERS 495 words counted by MS Word. Please e-mail any editing improvements to John Young. I will meet Morales for lunch. Then phone John Young. Thanks in advance. bill

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No Subject
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, There seems to be a problem posting anonymous messages to cypherpunks(a)ssz.com. I have posted several messages over the past week and *none* of them have showed up. I am posting this as a test message. I am sending it to the following addresses: cypherpunks(a)toad.com cypherpunks(a)ssz.com cypherpunks(a)algebra.com cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net I will add the server name to the subject line for each post to test which messages are being delivered and which are not. I AM TOTOCUS!!

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No Subject
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, There seems to be a problem posting anonymous messages to cypherpunks(a)ssz.com. I have posted several messages over the past week and *none* of them have showed up. I am posting this as a test message. I am sending it to the following addresses: cypherpunks(a)toad.com cypherpunks(a)ssz.com cypherpunks(a)algebra.com cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net I will add the server name to the subject line for each post to test which messages are being delivered and which are not. I AM TOTOCUS!!

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Re: Larry Gilbert, AOLers, and the Hyper-real flamer
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Mon, 14 Sep 1998, Paul H. Merrill wrote: > > I love this to death. Some asshole sends crap data to sixdegrees > including dredged up real email addresses, then when sixdegrees and the > contacts given react in a totally appropriate manner other (?) assholes > berate them for living. And this one even manages to toss in an > anti-AOL rant where AOL plays no part. > > Such witticisms I haven't seen since my kids turned 7. > > PHM I know of several people in addition to myself who have complained to Sixdegrees about this. I've personally given up sending complaints back to them, and I lost count at 5. Sixdegrees simply ignores them. I've sent them to their upstream sites, and they either ignore them or tell me that they've forwarded them to Sixdegrees. My complaints, at least, were very civil. One explained exactly what a mailing list was, for crying out loud. I can't speak for Hyper-real's (if he sent any) and the others. You may be able to use that defense if Sixdegrees didn't know, but they do. Sixdegrees could avoid these problems very easily by adding a domain verification so that somebody from Netcom can't specify some address at toad.com and have it work. They haven't. They haven't because they don't care. Saying that some sites have screwed up rDNS and mail domains isn't a valid excuse. They can insert exemptions for Hotmail, MSN, Juno, and other sites like that if they want. Oh, maybe they have a "phobia" of this, just like AOLers apparently have a "phobia" of even making an attempt to use English properly, so it's okay. I don't think the parallel between the AOL users spamming the list and organizations like Sixdegrees spamming the list is that uncalled for either. Maybe you find any drawing of parallels offensive, Paul, and maybe you'll denounce it as "propoganda" because I might use an example in this message, and maybe you just really like AOL and think its cluelessness and broken software is the best thing since sliced bread, but that doesn't change the fact that Sixdegrees and friends are doing the same thing AOL is and that it's abuse of the network. They fire a salvo, and somebody else fires one back at their expense. By this logic, I'd next expect to read a claim that since the AOLers are getting the Cypherpunks address from somewhere, we should welcome their requests for band stickers and things like "how u do that." After all, they're the victims, and are probably the kind of people who go to look up the word "gullible" when somebody tells them it isn't in the dictionary. It's a long-established tradition to flame people like this. Some flames are better than others. Maybe if the Hyper-real user insults them enough they'll finally add Cypherpunks to their block list. I've personally grown real sick of seeing bullshit passwords, welcome messages, new password messages, updates, and other junk on this list from sites which don't bother to verify domain names. I can give them that, but I start to get pissed when they refuse to block the address. For that reason I don't mind the person or persons who are flaming these idiots and in fact, like Mr. May, I cheer them on. Personally, I *WANT* them to pour nitric acid into their computers to destroy them, so they get the hell off the net. Maybe they're scared of block lists. After all, they're similar to kill files which we all know are lists of people who need killing and since murder is illegal and immoral kill files must be too. Paul, maybe you don't mind somebody pouring grass killer on your lawn if they were submitted your address over the phone and made an "honest" mistake and fell victim to a prank, but I mind if they do it to mine, particularly since all they have to do is perform cursory checks to realize it's suspect. Oops, I made an example using a different subject matter. We're in the "blatant propoganda" stage now, I suppose. Now, since you're all for niceness in the world, you can go jump on Tim since he's doing this too. From: Tim May <tcmay(a)got.net> To: Well now I am a Mommy! <xenedra(a)hotmail.com>, cypherpunks(a)toad.com Subject: Re: sixdegrees At 6:27 PM -0700 9/13/98, Well now I am a Mommy! wrote: >hi, > >I see you added me as a friend..... just wondering who you are. :) > >Christy > Hi Christy, Got your name from the Stalker's R Us group. Please post more details about your personal fantasies. Send us nude pictures, too. You say you're a Mommy. Hope there are no stretch marks. Oh, and your children can join our group too. Got any photos? --Tim May And: From: Tim May <tcmay(a)got.net> Subject: Re: News for class At 5:58 AM -0700 8/30/98, sboyd wrote: >Please inform me how I can get the news each day by e-mail at >flashboyd(a)aol.com. This information will be used in my comm class. Hey, "flashboyd(a)aol.com," why are you asking _us_? According to AOL, "AOL _is_ the Internet." (Personally, I'm cheered by the news that a net.stalker is tracking down clueless AOLers and Webbers and eviscerating them.) --Tim May SignalMonger

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