December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

RE: A Cypherpunk Trial, Yes
by Trei, Peter 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Graham-John Bullers [SMTP:real@EDMC.net] wrote: >As i'am one of persons mention in Toto's posts I >would just like to say I think the posts were a >joke. With the help of of Vullis I was a pain to >the list and this was Toto's way of acknowledging >this To the government readers of this list,the >cigar was Cuban,will you put Bill in the cell with >Toto. I, too, was suprised to find myself mentioned in one of the postings John Young has highlighted. I hadn't noticed this before, since Toto's rants were among the 50%+ of cpunks postings I marked as read without actually reading them. The Poster Currently Known As Toto mentioned an awful lot of people by name, purportedly engaged in all kinds of nefarious activities. The same post also names Tim May, Adam Back, Declan McCullagh, Ulf Moller, Kent Crispen, and Blanc Weber. I'm let off easy, being characterized as only a 'terroist [sic] InterNet forger'. I think that this is because I once complained when someone (possibly Toto) forged a message in my name. To put it in the plainest possible terms: I have never in my life forged a message. Peter Trei

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U.S. House only has a T-1
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Rental of PC software...
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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Copyright - Who has the right to loan?
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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RE: A Cypherpunk Trial, Yes
by Information Security 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Graham-John Bullers [SMTP:real@EDMC.net] wrote: > > >As i'am one of persons mention in Toto's posts I > >would just like to say I think the posts were a > >joke. With the help of of Vullis I was a pain to > >the list and this was Toto's way of acknowledging > >this. > > > To the government readers of this list... Ah, yes, the good old days when Vulis was here. ---guy * Re: State Charges in Weaver Case * * Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM (dlv(a)bwalk.dm.com) * Fri, 22 Aug 97 02:09:13 EDT * * Mike Duvos <enoch(a)zipcon.net> writes: * > * > Shouldn't it be ... involuntary * > manslaughter for using possibly excessive force against an armed * > attacker? * * No, it should be a $100 reward for icing a motherfucking fed. * * --- * * Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM * Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps ...and elsewhere in Usenet... ...soliciting funds for terrorist groups to kill a jewish couple: # Subject: The final solution for the premature ejaculation problem # From: shlomo(a)bwalk.dm.com (Rabbi Shlomo Ruthenberg) # Date: 1996/06/05 # Organization: Young Israel of Red Hook # Newsgroups: soc.culture.israel,soc.culture.jewish,alt.religion.islam, # alt.politics.white-Power,alt.2600,alt.revenge,alt.revisionism # # # As a religious Jew, I am shocked that none of: Hamas / Hizballah / # Party of God / Revolutionary Justice Organization / Organization # for the Oppressed on Earth / Islamic Jihad for the Liberation of # Palestine / Popular Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine # / Ansar Allah / Palestine Liberation Front / Followers of the # Prophet Muhammad / Revolutionary Organization of Socialist Muslims # / Fatah Revolutionary Council / Arab Revolutionary Brigades / # Islamic Resistance Movement / Vanguards of Conquest (whew!) have # gotten around porking the Jewish Fascist Yoni Kamens or his zonah # wife. You can help by mailing your donations (cash only) to: # # Dr. Ramadan Abdullah Mohamed Shallah # Dr. Musa Abu-Marzuq # c/o Arab Republic of Palestine Mission to the United Nations # 115 E 65 St, New York, NY 10023, tel: (212) 288-8500 # # Be sure to mark all envelopes "for the Yoni Kamens fund"!

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Re: Clinton's fake apologies (fwd)
by HyperReal-Anon 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Sat, 12 Sep 1998, David Honig wrote: > There is no evidence that Clinton actually *inhaled* on the > flavored cigar... Something here is a little fishy...

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Clinton's fake apologies
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The annoying thing about Clinton's recent behavior is that he never comes right out and apologizes, but the press always says he does. Case in point: > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Saying ``I have sinned,'' a tearful President > Clinton made an impassioned plea Friday for forgiveness from Monica > Lewinsky and others and vowed to fight hard to keep his job. But what did he say? > ``I don't think there is a fancy way to say that I have sinned,'' > Clinton said, hours before independent counsel Kenneth Starr's report > to Congress on his eight-month investigation into the Lewinsky scandal > was to be made public. He didn't say that he had sinned, he said that there wasn't a fancy way to say that he had sinned. He never came right out and said, "I have sinned". Another example: > ``It is important to me that everybody who has been hurt know that the > sorrow I feel is genuine -- first and most important my family, also my > friends, my staff, my cabinet, Monica Lewinsky and her family, and the > American people. I have asked all for their forgiveness,'' said Clinton. > > It was the first time he had actually asked publicly for the forgiveness > of Lewinsky... But he didn't ask publicly for the forgiveness of Lewinsky. He said that he had already asked her for forgiveness. Is this really true? Has he really spoken with her? Or is it another lie? Another example, from while Clinton was in Ireland: > DUBLIN, Ireland (AP) - President Clinton said for the first time Friday > ``I'm sorry'' about his affair with Monica Lewinsky, describing his > behavior as indefensible as he sought to calm the growing storm that > has shaken his presidency. Here's what he actually said: > ``I've already said that I made a bad mistake, it was indefensible and > I'm sorry about it,'' Clinton said, questioned at a photo opportunity > with Irish Prime Minister Bertie Ahern. It was the first time he had > used the word ``sorry.'' The wording is not quite as obvious here, but in the video record it was clear that he was saying that he had already said that his behavior was indefensible and that he was sorry about it. Of course, this is not true, he had never said that. Knowing Clinton's lawyerlike mind, we can only assume that his wording is carefully chosen. He could easily have said, "I don't think there is a fancy way to say it, but I have sinned," or, with regard to Lewinsky and company, "I ask here for forgiveness from them all." No doubt he takes a measure of satisfaction in knowing that his calculated public contriteness is carefully arranged to make it seem like he is saying things which he actually is not. Clinton loves lies, and it must be thrilling to lie brazenly and to be praised for his openness and honesty as he does so. For a professional hypocrite like Clinton, there can be no greater reward.

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Monica, slavegirl of Gor (fwd)
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This was found on a different mailing lists. names have been removed to protect the guilty. alan(a)ctrl-alt-del.com | Note to AOL users: for a quick shortcut to reply Alan Olsen | to my mail, just hit the ctrl, alt and del keys. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Subject: Re: Monica, slavegirl of Gor The best opinion I've heard so far on this topic: "If the government's going to spend $50 million on pornography, I'd rather it be by artists I support." Carol

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RE: Bits are Bits
by Trei, Peter 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Bryan [SMTP:sbryan@vendorsystems.com] [...] > But I have not yet seen CD-ROMs for rent or even available to > check out for home use from the public library. [...] [forgive the lame quoting format - I'm using a Microsoft product.] I was in my town library yesterday, and they were loaning CDROMs. I was in a hurry, so did not check the details. At least one was made by National Geographic. (BTW: You can get the *entire* *run* of NG on CDROM, which I think is pretty neat.) Peter Trei

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