December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

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by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

THE BAY OF CAMELS by Eric Margolis 25 August 1997 NEW YORK - The CIA's 50th anniversary last month turned out to be the Mother of All Bad Birthdays. The Agency was still reeling from the defection of senior agent Aldrich Ames, who betrayed over 100 agents and CIA's inner workings to Russian intelligence. Ames' monstrous treachery almost destroyed CIA's covert branch, and was comparable to the near fatal damage inflicted in the 1950's on Britain's Secret Intelligence Service by KGB agent, Kim Philby. Just when things couldn't seem to get worse for the beleaguered, demoralized Agency, details of the CIA's biggest, most costly operational fiasco since the 1961 Bay of Pigs disaster surfaced - right in time for its golden jubilee. Call it Clinton's Bay of Camels. This column has followed sporadic CIA attempts over the past six years to overthrow Saddam Hussein's regime. All failed dismally. But in 1995, bitter family squabbles seemed to have weakened Saddam's regime. Two son's-in-law embarrassingly defected to Jordan with highly sensitive military and political secrets. The army was supposedly restive. In mid-1995, President Clinton's new CIA Director, John Deutch, and his deputy, George Tenet, concluded Saddam was vulnerable. Clinton, eager for a foreign policy triumph, ordered CIA into high gear to overthrow or eliminate the vexatious Saddam. The Agency had long financed a motley,ineffective collection of Iraqi exile groups and Kurdish factions. This time, CIA focused its efforts on the Iraq National Accord(INA), a group of military and political exiles, many formerly part of Saddam's ruling circle. By putting them into power, CIA hoped to replicate Saddam's iron-fisted regime - but this time with one pro-American and minus Saddam. Most important, the CIA-installed generals were to ensure oil-rich Iraq stayed united, and did not splinter or fall under Iranian influence. CIA set INA up in Amman, Jordan. The US, Saudi Arabia and Kuwait provided funding. At Erbil, in the anarchic, US- created autonomous Kurdish zone in northern Iraq, CIA assembled and trained a small army of exiles and Kurds for the invasion of Iraq.. Agents of INA, paid by the US, embarked on a bombing and assassination campaign inside Iraq, that killed over 150 civilians. Terrorism is bad, it seems, when used against Americans or Israelis, but fine when used against Iraqis. By August, 1996, the invasion was ready. It was to begin by a CIA-organized assassination attempt against Saddam. CIA's army of Kurdish rebels and INA men would advance south from Erbil and drive on Baghdad, with massive air support from US warplanes and helicopter gunships. Other anti-Saddam groups would invade from Jordan and Kuwait. Saddam, as usual, knew all about this ham-handed operation from his spies inside INA and Kurdish groups. Souks across the Fertile Crescent buzzed with rumors of CIA's `secret' invasion. Saddam struck first - just before the invasion. He engineered a split between the two largest Kurdish rebel groups. As rival Kurds battled one another, Iraqi armor stormed Erbil, the main CIA base in northern Iraq. The CIA and its mini-army were totally surprised. Senior agents fled their base one jump ahead of Iraqi troops, abandoning quantities of top-secret documents, electronic equipment, and agent lists. Saddam's dreaded secret police rolled up all CIA's extensive networks in Kurdistan and Iraq, executing at least 350 American agents, Eighty senior Iraqi officers, poised to mount a coup against Saddam from Baghdad, were arrested and shot. The biggest. most expensive CIA field operation since the Bay of Pigs ended a bloody, expensive, humiliating, $200 million fiasco. Blame for this catastrophe must be shared by President Clinton, who ordered it, inept CIA Director Deutch, a rank newcomer to covert work, and CIA's bumbling senior bureaucrats. As usual, Clinton ducked the debacle and pretended he didn't know about it. Deutch was fired and replaced as Director by his deputy, Tenet. True to recent CIA tradition, other responsible senior field officers were promoted. Congress, which is supposed to oversee such major operations, has so far shrugged off the disaster. The fact that the US government was funding terrorist bombings in Baghdad - and Tehran - was ignored by Congress and much of the media. As were past attempts by US agents to assassinate Saddam Hussein, Libya's Col. Khadaffi, and Lebanese Shia leaders, though these acts were outright violations of American law. In the Mideast, it seems, all rules are suspended: The moral compass spins. The Iraqi debacle is yet more proof that the bloated, demoralized CIA needs massive, not just not just cosmetic surgery. One positive sign: recent appointment of the capable Jack Downing, former station chief in Moscow and Beijing, as chief of CIA's clandestine Operations branch. This is one posting the bureaucrats didn't get. Depressingly, the cost of the `bloodless' Gulf War `victory' keeps rising. Tens of thousands of American troops sickened by gas and germs. Over 100,000 Iraqi children dead from malnutrition caused by the American embargo of Iraq, and Saddam's stubbornness. The waste of $200 million plus and many lives on botched attempts to overthrow Saddam. Anarchy in Kurdistan. The undermining of Iraq's territorial integrity, with potentially explosive consequences for the entire region. After all this, Saddam still sits proudly on his throne,. quite rightly boasting of his great victory at Erbil against the Americans.

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Re: And your little dog, too
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:39 AM 11/23/1997 +0100, doormouse wrote Anonymously: >>Wasn't that a TOTO forgery, rather than igor himself? >I use Eudora, it doesn't show full headers, >when I suspect a forgery I need to save it to disk and >use a text editor to check full headers. >Have I missed an easy way to configure eudora to show full headers? Which Eudora version are you using? Eudora Light (and Pro, of course) have always let you see the headers, if you'll work your way through the Tools->Options menus. Under 3.x, the message reading window has a "Blah Blah Blah" button to let you turn display of headers on and off easily. I've configured my filters so that mail with obvious Toto headers in it gets the Subject: line flagged so I notice it faster. Thanks! Bill Bill Stewart, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com Regular Key PGP Fingerprint D454 E202 CBC8 40BF 3C85 B884 0ABE 4639

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(No Subject)
by Benjamin Chad Wienke 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Clinton Sells Arlington Burials (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Subject: Re: Clinton Sells Arlington Burials > From: dlv(a)bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM) > Date: Sat, 22 Nov 97 17:31:17 EST > Having zero respect for the military and all that goes with it, I fail > to see what the big deal is. You moron, it has *NOTHING* to do with the military. IT HAS to do with citizens who died in the service of their country. The not so surprising fact is that the vast majority of those eligible are soldiers. The cemetary recognizes their INDIVIDUAL sacrifice and NOT anything to do with the US Government per se. Selling burial plots at Arlington should involve impeachment. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The financial policy of the welfare state requires that there | | be no way for the owners of wealth to protect themselves. | | | | -Alan Greenspan- | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Re: [Fwd: [cpj:265] COS]
by Brian B. Riley 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 11/22/97 10:39 PM, Tim May (tcmay(a)got.net) passed this wisdom: >At 12:06 PM -0700 11/22/97, TruthMonger wrote: >>Have you heard of a Mac compatible OS called "COS" from Omega in East >>Germany? >>I just found an article about it in Japanese Mac mag and that says Omega >>announced the OS 11/13 at German MacWorldExpo. [snip] >This past week's issue of "MacWeek" said that this COS has been "delayed," >with no new introduction date set. > >Searching the www.zdnet.com site may reveal this. Or searching on the >company name, of course. I have read a number of articles speculating that Omega COS may be vaporware. I went to their webapge which has some great sounding text hype and nothing else, no links, no ordering info, nada! Brian B. Riley --> http://www.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys <mailto:brianbr@together.net?subject=Get%20PGP%20Key> "Bacon and eggs: A days work for a chicken; a lifetime commitment for a pig"

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by esoftware＠hotmail.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: [Fwd: [cpj:265] COS]
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Brian B. Riley wrote: > > On 11/22/97 10:39 PM, Tim May (tcmay(a)got.net) passed this wisdom: > > >At 12:06 PM -0700 11/22/97, TruthMonger wrote: > >>Have you heard of a Mac compatible OS called "COS" from Omega in East > >>Germany? > > >This past week's issue of "MacWeek" said that this COS has been "delayed," > >with no new introduction date set. > > I have read a number of articles speculating that Omega COS may be > vaporware. I went to their webapge which has some great sounding text > hype and nothing else, no links, no ordering info, nada! I have a friend from Santa Fe who did some work with Omega and her opinion was that their purpose in crypto OS development was aimed toward using it as leverage for being bribed into compromising or abandoning it in return for government/spook business. Apparently, there are consultants in some of the former Eastern Bloc countries who specialize in negotiations between corporations and shadow agencies in order to find out the highest price they can sell out or capitulate for without making it worth the spooks time and effort to sabotage their project or whack them out. It seems that it can be quite profitable if you don't waste money foolishly on hiring programmers, engineers, etc. I have to go now and work on my "Lounge Suit Larry Nukes DC While Stripping Barbie Naked" program. It uses BAD IDEA encryption. A. Fiend ^r

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Survey: Police Satisfaction [CNN]
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > SURVEY SHOWS AMERICAN'S COMFORT WITH POLICE > > police contact November 22, 1997 > Web posted at: 7:01 p.m. EST (0001 GMT) > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- A new Justice Department survey examining the way > the public interacts with police has found that one in five > Americans makes some kind of contact with law enforcement officers > each year mostly to report a crime, ask for help or offer > assistance. > > The study, released Saturday, also found that less than 1 percent of > people who made contact with police said officers used or threatened > to use physical force. If force was used, most respondents said, > their actions may have provoked it. > > The survey reveals nothing surprising, criminal justice experts > said. They said it shows that Americans are turning to police in > situations beyond emergencies. > > "I think to many people, the one in five number seems high. But it > does emphasize the varied role police have as peace officers as > opposed to just responding to crimes," said James Alan Fox, dean of > the College of Criminal Justice at Boston's Northeastern University. > "Most of the work police do is not necessarily respond to crimes." > > However, some feel the survey fails to address factors important to > relationships police have with citizens. police directions > > "It probably doesn't really speak to the strained relations between > the police and minority communities in America," said Arthur > Lurigio, chairman of the Criminal Justice Department at Loyola > University in Chicago. > > The first-of-its-kind study was culled from data in the annual > National Criminal Victimization Survey conducted by the Bureau of > Justice Statistics. > > According to the report, one-third of the contacts between the > police and the public was related to seeking help or offering > assistance. Another third was to report a crime, either as a witness > or victim. Slightly less than one-third of respondents said the > police had initiated the contact. > > White males and people in their 20s were the most likely to have > face-to-face contact, the survey found. Hispanics and blacks were > about 70 percent as likely as whites to have interacted with the > police. > > The study was based on a survey of 6,421 people, age 12 and older, > and used a sample of residents chosen to represent an entire > population. No margin of error was given.

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Klaas Foundation 1998 Tour
by auto100＠ccusa.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// This message is intended to reach Auto Dealers & Auto Industry businesses only. If you are not an Auto related business and wish to be removed from any future contacts, please reply in the subject area only with the word "Remove" and this software will automatically block you from any future contact. //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Attention: Owner - General Manager - Advertising Director The Klaas Foundation for Children Program "What a program! We bought the program and then put 5 sponsors together for the event. We own 7 radio stations and we have done many community projects. As you know, TV and Newspapers never support your efforts due to perceived competition. The Klaas Foundation program was the #1 story on TV and front page on the newspaper. Our sponsors were so impressed and more important, we fingerprinted 400 kids in 6 hours! Wayne Hardy Atlantic Star Radio Group Wheeling, WV "We are the #1 volume Chrysler dealer in Texas and #6 in the country. We are very selective about who we do business with. Mark Bott is a true professional and the Klaas Foundation program is now an every year event at our store. Our customers constantly mention the program. We are proud to be a Klaas Foundation national sponsor! Amy Bowman Grubbs Mid-Cities Dallas, TX "We had over 2800 people in our showroom on Saturday. We fingerprinted over 800 kids and in the midst of this, we sold 35 cars! Mark Bott and Marc Klaas are extremely effective in the promotion of this program and I have re-booked and sent my checks for the 1998 tour." Darren Kirkland Koon's World Ford Hollywood, Florida "I was overwhelmed with the turnout and so proud of my employees and our community. Every one in Omaha thanks me and asks when Marc Klaas will be back. I have committed to do this again next year and Norwest Bank, my cosponsor, said they are in for sure! This program still has my employees high and has spawned huge community involvement on the part of our organization. I have sold many cars to the people that I met during this program and established community, law enforcement and legislative contacts that I would have never had." Gregg Young - Beardmore Chevrolet - Omaha, NE "I represent the Fulton Auto Dealers in Fulton, New York. As their advertising agency, we inspected, made calls, asked questions and brought up what ifs to Mr. Bott when he approached us on the Klaas Foundation program. We had over $400,000 in free press generated and our dealer group has re-book for 1998. We had 650 people at the Town Meeting and have recommended this program to all of our clients without hesitation." JudySchmidt Camilus,NY History During a slumber party in October of 1993, 12 year old Polly Hannah Klaas was abducted at knife-point from her Petaluma, California home. A mass distribution of over 2 billion images of Polly was sent worldwide. She had soon become a symbol of love and lost innocence. The world froze one cold evening in December when the media reported that Polly, "America's Child," the beautiful girl with the warm brown eyes shown smiling in home videos for millions of TV viewers, was not found alive. The country was outraged. The public cried out for change in legislation and pro-action in crime prevention. "Polly was faced with a choice few people ever have to make," said her father, Marc Klaas. "By putting herself in mortal danger to protect her family and friends, Polly has become my greatest teacher." Marc Klaas immediately dove into a campaign to put children higher on the national priority list. With no prior media, political or public speaking experience, he immediately became savvy in affecting pro-active legislation, and sought to advocate children's issues and speak out on crime prevention. The Purpose A 7 day march through your state to affect State and Federal legislation on the following issues. Raising children to the #1 priority in this country. Keeping dangerous people behind bars. Making background checks mandatory for anyone that has unsupervised access to children. ( Teachers, Coaches, Day care workers and any others that work directly with our children.) Become a tour sponsor and join us for this March Across America with Marc Klaas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! For additional information to become a sponsor, please contact: Mr. Mark J. Bott, National Program Director Phone 217-529-4174 - Fax 217-529-4172 47 Auto Dealers and an assortment of other retail businesses hosted this program in 1997, so there are many references. If you are interested in bringing Mr. Klaas and the power of this program to your community, please contact us today.

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Re: Clinton Sells Arlington Burials (fwd)
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Jim Choate chided Dimitri: >You moron, it has *NOTHING* to do with the military. IT HAS to do with >citizens who died in the service of their country. The not so surprising >fact is that the vast majority of those eligible are soldiers. The cemetary >recognizes their INDIVIDUAL sacrifice and NOT anything to do with the US >Government per se. Selling burial plots at Arlington should involve >impeachment. I agree with Jim's acknowledement of citizen sacrifice. However, Arlington, like all military cemetaries, is maintained by DoD for its own purposes beyond recognition of the citizen-soldier. You bet it sells plots to sell plots. Some citizen-soliders, I'm one, wish to have no association with military monuments due to inside knowledge of what the military and its advocates are up to. Better to be buried unmarked in potter's field than near the grotesque themepark of The Unknown Soldier and its strutting guards. I wonder if any of the dead, if they had a say, would wish to be used for that purpose, or if its only the families and patriotic hustlers who have a stake in prettifying the horrible truth: that giving one's life, a leg, an arm, a belief in valor and sacrifice, for a treacherous, militaristic nation and economy is a nasty deal, no matter how it's monumentalized with zillions of white headstones arrayed in sylvan vales like gullible soldiers going to kill and die in bloody ignorance. Even morons grasp that these dishonorable plots are recruiting scams cooked up by the living up to no good. Excuse me for losing it, don't want a war over honor, some pissed vet to gore me with his pegleg badge of valor, some chickenshit reservist to earn a stripe.

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