December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

bugged?
by Ken Williams 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

anybody have any ideas here? this is a personal email forwarded to me from a friend who *might* have cause to believe he is bugged. this is coming from a .au domain, btw. thanx, TATTOOMAN http://152.7.11.38/~tattooman ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 20:41:23 +0930 From: XXX(a)XXX.XXX To: jkwilli2(a)unity.ncsu.edu Subject: PGP Yo tat, I got pgp 5.0. which will not work with your version. Upgrade man :-) Oh well I'll tell ya without pgp. It's not that much of a problem the question I wanted to ask you (well I hope it's not). Anyway, what I wanted to ask you is whether you might know why I'm getting a very DISTINCTIVE beep when I connect with my modem to my ISP. The beep(only once) comes just after the initial dialup and just before all the noise you get before the connection. Sounds wierd and it only started 2 days ago. I never heard a connection like this before and I'm wondering whether my phone line is being tapped. Any suggestions ?? XXXXX P.S. Just in case my mail is being read by someone other than Tattooman..here's to you (_|_)

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We've been found out
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Damn! I thought we had everyone fooled. Some pissant wrote: Death of a Legend / The Truth About the CypherPunks: The CypherPunks have long been renowned as standing at the bleeding edge of the burdgeoning computer technology which is rapidly changing the face of our planet and the governmental, civil, and social societies encompassed within this celestial orb. Harbingers of the Digital Future / Pioneers of Future Technology / etc., etc. Bullshit... The CypherPunks are rag-tag band of infantile, pseudo-anarchistic, pseudo- cryptic, well-educated shit-disturbers who take great pleasure in pissing on themselves, each other, and the world around them--all the while, covering their motivations and ambitions with high-sounding ideals intended to disguise the fact that none of them ever received proper toilet-training. The end result? No matter how high they pile it, how far they spread it, or how badly it smells when you step in it, they end up coming off as the Henry Kissinger's of CyberSpace, because no matter how much rotten meat, jalapenos and moldy cheese they eat, they can never manage to crap out anything so vile and foul- smelling that the world-at-large cannot prove prophetic in MeatSpace.

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Re: (none)
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Anonymous asks: > If its so easy to make your own biological weapons, > hoembrewed in a bathtub (or vat or whatever), how > about posting some web links or pointers? > > If its so easy why haven't more downtrodden > Americans (there are a lot of loonies in this > country) tried this stuff out yet? Because it's so easy to kill yourself doing so.

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No Real Debate Yet on the War
by Tim May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

By the way, for those of you not living in the U.S., and who haven't been here to see the way the debate (or lack of it) has been developing in the U.S., let me make a few points: * the preparations for a new war have been going on for several weeks * Congress has taken no votes one way or the other about this imminent war * Congress, in fact, is not in session, and has not been called back into session to debate and discuss and ultimately vote on a Declaration of War (or what passes for it these days, a "vote of moral support") * the American public has shown a lukewarm response at best to the plans, such as they understand them * speaking of plans, the plans are very vague. The public does not know what the goals of a war might be, what the endgame options are, how many Americans are likely to die, what the likely counterpunch will be (hint: think terrorist attacks), and just how the U.S. plans to fight a war without clear goals and clear support. * essentially no one thinks a bombing campaign will either kill Saddam, who moves around a lot to highly secret locations (including houses of peasants), or will destroy all of those small cannisters of anthrax and sarin and the like...when asked, Albright and Cohen are vague and dissembling. * meanwhile, scare reports of terrorists in Las Vegas are making the headlines...a perfect "give us some jimbells to scare the nation" scenario. (With the usual scary stuff about his "survivalist" books, his membership in Christian Identity, and his links to Aryan Nation. Throw him jail!) In short, where is the debate about this upcoming war? Is Congress now so ineffectual that its main power, the power to declare war, is no longer "operative"? Amazing. --Tim May, posting before his own home gets raided for having supplied PGP to Christian Identity and Aryan Nation. Just Say No to "Big Brother Inside" ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^3,021,377 | black markets, collapse of governments.

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RE: bugged?
by Pearson Shane 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi Alan, I thought he was refering to that too, but notice he says the beep is before the negotiation, just after the dialing. Bye for now. > -----Original Message----- > From: Alan Olsen [SMTP:alan@clueserver.org] > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 7:06 AM > To: Ken Williams > Cc: cypherpunks(a)toad.com; dc-stuff(a)dis.org; > hh-chat(a)gateway-1.secureservers.net > Subject: Re: bugged? > > At 06:20 AM 2/16/98 -0500, Ken Williams wrote: > > > >anybody have any ideas here? this is a personal email forwarded to > me > >from a friend who *might* have cause to believe he is bugged. this > is > >coming from a .au domain, btw. > > Sounds like he has a 56k modem and his ISP just upgraded to the same > sort > of 56k modem he has. That is part of the protocol negotiation. (In > the > future, it will take 30 minutes to finish connecting with a modem, but > we > will all get 666k transmission speed over normal phone lines.) > > > > >thanx, > > > >TATTOOMAN > > > >http://152.7.11.38/~tattooman > > > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 20:41:23 +0930 > >From: XXX(a)XXX.XXX > >To: jkwilli2(a)unity.ncsu.edu > >Subject: PGP > > > >Yo tat, > > > >I got pgp 5.0. which will not work with your version. Upgrade man :-) > > > >Oh well I'll tell ya without pgp. It's not that much of a problem the > >question I wanted to ask you (well I hope it's not). > > > >Anyway, what I wanted to ask you is whether you might know why I'm > getting > >a very DISTINCTIVE beep when I connect with my modem to my ISP. The > >beep(only once) comes just after the initial dialup and just before > all the > >noise you get before the connection. > > > >Sounds wierd and it only started 2 days ago. I never heard a > connection > >like this before and I'm wondering whether my phone line is being > tapped. > > > >Any suggestions ?? > > > >XXXXX > > > >P.S. Just in case my mail is being read by someone other than > >Tattooman..here's to you (_|_) > > > > > --- > | "That'll make it hot for them!" - Guy Grand > | > |"The moral PGP Diffie taught Zimmermann unites all| Disclaimer: > | > | mankind free in one-key-steganography-privacy!" | Ignore the man > | > |`finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key | behind the > keyboard.| > | http://www.ctrl-alt-del.com/~alan/ > |alan(a)ctrl-alt-del.com|

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17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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by Wei Dai 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A payment mix is like an email mix, but instead of mixing and remailing emails, it mixes and repays payments. This would be useful when the payment system itself does not offer anonymity. A payment mix basicly turns any traceable payment system into an anonymous one. Payment mixes could be chained for additional security, just like email mixes. But by using blind signatures this could also be avoided. In that case the payment mix would be acting like a mini ecash mint. To illustrate how it would work, suppose Alice wants to give $1 to Bob. 1. Alice pays $1 to the payment mix using the traceable payment system. 2. In exchange, the payment mix issues Alice $1 in blinded (Chaumian) ecash. 3. Alice gives the ecash to Bob. 4. Bob gives the ecash back to the payment mix. 5. The payment mix pays Bob $1 using the traceable payment system. Notice that because of blinding, in step 4 the payment mix cannot connect the ecash it gets from Bob to the ecash it issued to Alice. This is a pretty simple idea, but I don't remember if we talked about it here already. If blinding is used, a payment mix would basicly BE an ecash mint, except the cash it issues would be held only momentarily by its users. Because its total outstanding liability at any given moment would be fairly low, a payment mix would only have to be minimally trusted.

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17 Dec '03

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