December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: AT&T Research "Crowds" -- Perl web anonymity proxy -- needs users
by Avi Rubin 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Yeah, that license agreement was forced on us. We were grateful they let us give away all the source code. > From gnu(a)toad.com Wed Nov 19 00:32:10 1997 > Delivery-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 00:32:11 -0500 > Return-Path: gnu(a)toad.com > Received: from research.att.com (research-clone.research.att.com [135.207.30.100]) > by amontillado.research.att.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA27270 > for <rubin(a)issr.research.att.com>; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 00:32:09 -0500 (EST) > Received: from toad.com ([140.174.2.1]) by research-clone; Wed Nov 19 00:30:14 EST 1997 > Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by toad.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA02158; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 21:30:06 -0800 (PST) > Message-Id: <199711190530.VAA02158(a)toad.com> > X-Authentication-Warning: toad.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol > To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com, rubin(a)research.att.com, gnu(a)toad.com > Subject: AT&T Research "Crowds" -- Perl web anonymity proxy -- needs users > Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 21:30:05 -0800 > From: John Gilmore <gnu(a)toad.com> > Status: R > > It has a screwy "non-commercial use only, AT&T gets everything, you > get nothing" license, but otherwise it looks interesting. > > John > > From: Avi Rubin <rubin(a)research.att.com> > > John, > > You may remember that at Crypto, I described the Crowds system to you. > The system is now robust and up and running, and we have ported it to > windows and unix platforms, so just about anyone should be able to use > it. In fact, if there is such a thing as Perl for macintosh, I'm sure > it would work on that platform too. > > We are very interested in getting more users of our system. As it is > intended to provide privacy to web users, I thought that perhaps it is > something that you and EFF would be interested in. Do you think you > could put a link to the Crowds page on the EFF web site? Anything > else you can do to help increase the usage would be great, because our > system has the property that the more poeple use it, the more secure > it is. Let me know if you have any questions. > > The Crowds page is: http://www.research.att.com/projects/crowds > > Thanks, > Avi > > -- > > ********************************************************************* > Aviel D. Rubin rubin(a)research.att.com > Secure Systems Research Dept. Adjunct Professor at NYU > AT&T Labs - Research > 180 Park Avenue http://www.research.att.com/~rubin/ > Florham Park, NJ 07932-0971 Voice: +1 973 360-8356 > USA FAX: +1 973 360-8809 > > --> Check out http://www.clark.net/pub/mjr/websec/ for a new > book on web security (The Web Security Sourcebook). > ********************************************************************* >

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ISBN and EAR
by Steve Schear 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The Administration, through the EAR, has attempted to maintain the fiction that there is a qualitative difference between intellectual works made tangible in paper and those in electronic form. Can a Federal court's introduction of evidence procedure be used to establish the interchageability of IP works in paper and elecronic form and if so can these rules be applied to the EAR? The ISBN is an identification system for books and other media which allows for order-processing by booksellers, libraries, universities, wholesalers and distributors. It identifies a title or edition of a title and is unique to that title or edition. The ISBN system was established in 1968 as a standard for books and other monographic publications. Today, the scope of the system has expanded to include other media such as calendars, spoken word audiocassettes, videocassettes and electronic media. Is anyone aware of a federal case, accepted into the SC, in which an work of intellectural property (esp. a book) admitted as evidence was referenced solely by its ISBN? Might this direction a legally fruitful way to overturn the EAR fiction? --Steve

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No Subject
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I factored a 2048 bit key and all I got was Jerry Springers' "Too Hot for Television" videocassette and this bumber sticker, "I Brake For Illegal Immigrants" -Joe7

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index.html
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

CNN logo Navigation Infoseek/Big Yellow Pathfinder/Warner Bros Barnes and Noble Main banner rule POLL: YOUNG ADULTS WANT BETTER GOVERNMENT graphic November 19, 1997 Web posted at: 10:57 p.m. EST (0357 GMT) WASHINGTON (AP) -- Most young adults don't necessarily want to reduce government's role in America but want it to do a better job, according to a new poll. As for themselves, however, they see their future not in government work but in private business. The survey by pollsters Peter Hart and Robert Teeter was released Wednesday at the kickoff of a project by corporations and nonprofit groups to increase public trust in government. In the poll, 40 percent of respondents said government can help them achieve their goals in life, compared with the 48 percent who said government programs and policies are a hindrance. But a large majority, 71 percent, answered that government could help with better leadership and management, and 60 percent would prefer improving the government over simply reducing its size and power. On working in government themselves, 66 percent said a career in the private sector is more appealing. The telephone survey of 505 Americans between the ages of 18 and 34 was conducted October 29 and 30. The margin of error is plus or minus 4.5 percentage points. Copyright 1997 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. rule Related site: Note: Pages will open in a new browser window * Council for Excellence in Government homepage External sites are not endorsed by CNN Interactive. _________________________________________________________________ Infoseek search ____________________ ____ ____ _________________________________________________________________ rule Message Boards Sound off on our message boards You said it... [INLINE] rule To the top © 1997 Cable News Network, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Terms under which this service is provided to you.

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Free start up kit
by Theresa Lowery 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Please send me a free start up kit my name and address follows Robert Lowery 1943 Hwy 472 Winnfield, LA 71483 My E-Mail address is tlowery(a)iamerica.net Thank you Robert

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Re: Fairy Gold
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Monty Cantsin wrote: >Anonymous <anon(a)anon.efga.org> wrote: >>Persistent identities suck. Ideas stand or fall on their own. >>Reputation capital is fairy gold, evaporating with the morning dew. If this were really true, you would have posted your message under your real name (a.k.a., your persistent identity). The fact that you chose to make your statement anonymously only proves the inverse of what you say. >I do not believe this to be true. Of course, concepts are valid >regardless of their source. It would be unwise to take the statements >even of established identities on faith. > >The advantage of persistent identity is that it allows the exploration >of more complicated ideas. Use of the persistent identity places a >particular post in a greater context. > >There is only so much that can be done in a single post. It is the >mailing list equivalent of a sound bite. We should remember that -- at least here in America and the rest of the so-called first world -- we live in the age of the sound bite where the "medium is the message." Public opinion is manipulated by the puppetmasters who pull the emotional strings of John and Jane Q. Public sitting in front of the TV each night. Witness how anyone who has watched a video on Waco is quickly being lumped into the category of an anti-government extremist (Terry Nichols had two copies of "Waco Under Siege" in his house). The underlying message is, "don't consider any of the facts that the video viewer presents to you, just realize he/she is an extremist." Frankly, I wasn't there at Waco so I don't know what happened. However, as Monty pointed out in another post, the fact that the FBI/BATF/etc. administered the gas into the Davidian home (notice how I fail to use the media-sanctioned term "compound") is clearly an aggressive act on the part of the U.S. gov't. Regardless of what the spinmeisters say (both on the left and the right) no human being with a conscience can take note of this fact and say that the feds were justified in their actions. Gassing children? Come on. A single sound bite on its own will do nothing, but a persistent group of sound bites presented over time with a recurring message can create a great amount of influence. This is how public opinion is formed through mass media channels. But think about this: who is the author of these mass media sound bites? Can you name the person? It's easy to say that it's the feds, the ZOG, the NWO crew...but you can't name an individual can you? Why is that? Seriously, think about this question. It has a lot to do with a major cypherpunk theme: anonymity. But in this case, with hardly any conscious responsibility. Nerthus P.S. Notice how my response becomes "negated" by Monty's previous response when you read the first 6 lines of text in order: " >>Persistent identities suck. Ideas stand or fall on their own. >>Reputation capital is fairy gold, evaporating with the morning dew. If that were really true, you would have posted your message under your real name (a.k.a., your persistent identity). The fact that you chose to make your statement anonymously only proves the inverse of what you say. >I do not believe this to be true. " Think how easily Monty's "response" could be used against me if the quoted text marks (>) were removed. Truths are easily twisted into lies by those who seek advantage from such actions. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBNHJoHOFWwZe05jcJAQG60gf9Gkn96xtwHQ6CP3gcXGTTjgb42GMWXG6G YvlDlu+MehW61hR+i8NeqM6Y/z1nFJuFZhOJmAVlps2ud6r6PoGBqFF0HOiNQjyz 3pwuB5v2y31rxHKJDLloWjv+fLrX8sapQbOwELbmR3DxwiYxiZJfhNHz8T+gQOw5 4Ri550IzqMpGCHLeU03GdnZOiCu17QRUOHuP2qnNHSUAcTp28fQbUBUdivVPsr+1 PZ1XfwCLKhSdQjDCIhRNukM9+ep675+l5FtEZGjx6UOsBRlpZmXz/6I2Z/S9c0Tr nrmOhPBSS1MQDDe2vCkOhiNmcBT2LbAa5cSEL07sswLU0/lFMRj6Jw== =uO0B -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Nobuki Nakatuji
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Jonathan Wienke wrote: >Due to his distinctive writing style, John Young should probably have >his anonymous posts translated into English by Nobuki if he truly >wishes to remain anonymous. Good god, Jonathan, you trying to get the JY-box TWA 800ed on CIA-TV Barney? Send fee for using TM nym. Spoofing persistent identities, writing style, secret thoughts and hidden agendas are adult-nut-rated kid's stuff here, the weirdo pitches the easiest of all, especially the puretext missionary position in white socks style of blackhearts which ever vaunts itself best See Jane Read Spot. Who do you think "John Young" is if not a machinic composite of all previous, current and conceivable and abortable of cpunks, and pseudo-cpunks, extra bile-sauced with apish objective journalism gone stale, foul, rancid and roadkill tastier, by all the crazed truly knowns and unknowns passing through claoked in incredibly ordinary, goofily Anglicized, hide-shame names of the world's English-imitating kill-native cultures. To wit: "John Young," no other vapid pseudonym have ever been so often used to hide god's evilist holies. Except the other subscribers.

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Traffic Analysis Tip #3207
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

TRAFFIC ANALYSIS TIP #3207: Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD) When performing traffic analysis and/or stylometry for the purpose of discerning the sometimes subtle differences between genuine mental imbalance and affectation of the same by boilerplate government and/or corporate shills, one needs to take into account the possible role that 'Seasonal Affective Disorder,' (SAD), may play in emotive attacks on the target, be it a group or a particular subject. The onset of SAD can often be recognized by the correlation between increasingly emotional attacks and specifically monitorable elements of seasonal changes, such as the decreasing amount of light in the northern and southern climes as winter advances. Examples of this can be easily charted using posts originating from ISP's such as sympatico.ca. The data can then be compared to that garnered through an analysis of Hettinga's posts, showing that the latter are goal-oriented emotive attacks designed to provide identity- associated confirmation/support of the current round of anonymous posts aimed at denigrating the cypherpunks mailing list by associating it directly, in the minds of others, with one or two individuals/targets on the list. Note that although SAD can aggravate existing conditions, such as OCD (Obssesive-Compulsive Disorder), it does not change the basic traits of those conditions. The excessive diatribes of Choate, for instance, upon having a few lines of one of his posts changed/misquoted by Toto/TruthMonger, were shown by analysis to have been easily deflected by others into a more generalized attack/defense-of-his-position. While Hettinga's current attack might easily be confused with an identity-fixation focus of the same general form of OCD, closer analysis would show that his posts continually return to goal- oriented repetitive misstatements aimed toward linking the individual to a specifically designed mind-construct being advanced by the para//el anonymous posts. Likewise, the effect of Seasonal Affective Disorder on those afflicted with a wider variety of interconnected dysfuntionalities, such as the ADHD/Tourette/OCD/Schizoid tendencies of TruthMonger #1, is to merely increase the volatility of already existing conditions. Analysis of the known posts of #1, under a variety of personas and anonymous list offerings, shows the same wide set of dysfunctional anomalies working at cross-purposes on a broad spectrum of issues. One of the keys to differentiating these posts from those produced by boilerroom spook operations is recognizing the existence of multiple underlying signs of a broader range of diagnosic criterion than is present in a willful affectation of dysfunctional conditions designed to elicit para//el emotive reactions in other subscribers to the mailing list. The effect/influence of SAD has been shown in the past to be much greater during high levels of El Nino activity. TAT#3207/coe

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Good recent books on encryption, privacy, etc.?
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text X-Sender: ddfr(a)shell9.ba.best.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 18:39:58 -0800 Reply-To: Law & Policy of Computer Communications <CYBERIA-L(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM> Sender: Law & Policy of Computer Communications <CYBERIA-L(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM> From: david friedman <ddfr(a)BEST.COM> Subject: Good recent books on encryption, privacy, etc.? To: CYBERIA-L(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM I am getting ready to teach my seminar on Computers, Crime and Privacy again, and wondering if there is something new that I should substitute for _Building in Big Brother_. Are there any recent books that have a reasonably accessible treatment of encryption, the controversy over regulation, etc.? For that matter, are there any good recent books on computer crime? I may end up simply substituting in a lot of URL's, but I thought it was probably worth including some old technology as well, if available. David Friedman Professor of Law Santa Clara University ddfr(a)best.com http://www.best.com/~ddfr/ --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/ Ask me about FC98 in Anguilla!: <http://www.fc98.ai/>

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Re: e$: Snakes of Medusa on Wall Street? (fwd)
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Jim Choate wrote: >Bob Hettinga wrote: >> BTW, Emerson, Dickenson, Whitman, Thureau, etc., were part >> of the same ideological outpouring which, in the theological arena, was the >> Great Awakening. A lot can be said for the view that this was American >> Romanticism, as Chopin, Byron, the Brontes, Austen, etc., were all >> happening in roughly the same couple of generations. Later, like libertines >> and enthusiasts throughout history, they became extremely repressive. We >> eventually came to call them Victorians. (Sound familiar, you baby boomers?) > >After thinking about this I am certain that you are speaking of a movement >other than the Great Awakening. I can't remember or find a convenient name >for the religous/ethical awakening that occured prior to the Civil War. "THE GREAT AWAKENING "A conservative reaction against the world view of the new science was bound to follow, and the first half of the eighteenth century witnessed a number of religious revivals in both England and America. They were sometimes desperate efforts to reassert the old values in the face of the new and, oddly enough, were themselves the direct product of the new cult of feeling, a philosophy which argued that man's greatest pleasure was derived from the good he did for others and that his sympathetic emotions (his joy as well as his tears) should not be contained." -- The Norton Anthology of American Literature, Third Edition, Volume 1 Being a New Englander, Bob should know about the revivalist of Northampton, Massachusetts: Jonathan Edwards. His name is synonymous with the "Great Awakening." As for the religious/ethical awakening that occurred prior to the War between the States, that has generally come to be known as "American Transcendentalism," especially the works of Whitman, Emerson and Thoreau. Nerthus -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBNHMgReFWwZe05jcJAQHPkAgAm8DTBqNnuoEGl9AVKgWIhGf3QEsH9yH3 ZoJL5WsaGlnsykrgBtvb/8qC7LgrGL19fG0rFy0ixytNM+XsenGbqE1QADb8gIbJ CQTC6323s+rqO0/WmUCfsSAEpGifAosDtdn/FZiW0rXXPX18kM/vn4qUNVDmnoXe JptHFzJGj/kCRhGfpzu3y2QpkNZEk4+wSEf4hCHRZTc+ZczB5iMW38zWpk1Mwfuy HdJU3aEORDS5BbJ1CPibxj+yZGj6bvDcnR8oNdzDidvknyaHWluCbrZjmMwaPE7x kkcc8BsXcuKMa7fOxREjH6CLs6Gnicc/idIGIDGLbQcGVGr2jXSRLg== =4OoU -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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