December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: `careerpunks'
by Adam Shostack 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Adam Back wrote: > Seems to me many of the `cypherpunks' have become `careerpunks' and > are now more interested in trading crypto tips, trade gossip, than in > cypherpunks projects. > > They went through the phase of buying kewl domain names (take a look > down the subscriber lists), tinkering with remailers, and have now > graduated to making money from crypto consulting, and lost interest in > the issues where they don't add to the bottom line. I disagree with your analysis. I'm working for a number of large companies as a consultant. At each of them, I think I've done things that substantially imrpove customer privacy. At one, I may have sold them on role certificates "This certifies that the bearer can access account 345567734545435." As opposed to "This is John Smith." I think thats a huge win for privacy advocates, and hey, it saves them work and money to do it this way. I could not have convinced these people by posting to cypherpunks. Selling your services does not involve selling out. Adam -- "It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once." -Hume

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The Inducement of Rapid Oxidation of Certain Materials in or Near Government Buildings
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- The Inducement of Rapid Oxidation of Certain Materials in or Near Government Buildings At 04:07 AM 5/11/97 +0200, M. Froomkin wrote: >[... ugly stuff about "soft targets"] > >It ill behooves participants in a democracy to either advocate or even >tolerate or even cluck sympathetically at mass murder for political ends. >This way lies Bosnia. Tim is neither a democrat nor a participant in a democracy. Note that all the parties involved in the current Balkans war are governments (or claim to be). Most of the violence in interactions between people and governments is on the government side. The U.S. government and others have been committing mass murder for years. Supporters of those governments thus support mass murder for "political ends." Governments have murdered 170 million people since 1900. My back-of-the-envelope estimate is that the civilians of the world have only murdered about 20 million people in the same period of time. Quite a disparity. The U.S. government and its subsidiaries (for example) annually kill hundreds of people in carrying out the "war" on the unlicensed retailing of pharmaceuticals. The U.S. was convicted of war crimes in the International Court of Justice in the Hague in the late 80's for dropping air-sown mines in one of Nicaragua's harbors. The U.S. practices the mass bombing of civilian populations in wartime which causes a very great loss of innocent life. Many of the other governments of the world are worse. The principle of estoppel would seem to logically preclude the world's governments from arguing that their mass murders are OK but those committed by amateurs (which kill many fewer people) aren't. Again, and in general, some of the readers of this and other recent threads on cypherpunks need some reading lessons (present company excepted). Tim May has not advocated blowing things up (though such advocacy remains legal). He has not advocated that cypherpunks blow things up. He has not advocated that Timothy McVeigh blow things up. He has not even said that blowing things up is a hip and happening way to raise the average IQ and moral level of the surviving population. He has merely said that if OTHER PEOPLE blow certain things up he understands their actions and that in the case of certain targets he would not shed a tear. He also predicted that people will be blowing things up in the future (with which prediction, even the U.S. government agrees). In any case, cypherpunks' orientation is towards the mathematics of cryptography rather than towards chemical engineering. DCF "If the Red Queen blows things up it's a virtue. If you blow thgings up it's a vice." -- The Mad Hatter. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 4.5 iQCVAgUBM3eIZoVO4r4sgSPhAQEi7gP+K0cDa/6qXtB8FPfmn9Evk2LRxV9qNiQ+ AIjCagp/MeV2WnHKkEcTrX+geZxDOAhDn8XdHopf6sozI2CZlZYxsEqPFOBb0gjx wnpN/j6zjWxFkTdBO+UGrNPK4+G9+hkm1BPjaJSbsgHT2UrLSsK0YUzu1dW4EQtH gPKh8/2baSM= =2y+Y -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Telnet Anonymous
by harka＠nycmetro.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- E-Mail...NYM-Servers WWW...Anonymizer Telnet...?? How does one telnet anonymously to another system, assuming that one's home system has identd? Thanks already in advance... Ciao Harka ... Microsoft - "Where do you want to crash today?" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAgUBM3cNtjltEBIEF0MBAQE3sAf7BHE2Gi3pEDRBPhkjAGa0yAT56Y5FL77h 5TB3XJoM0GCgy+oq+fodVpsH7/nseO6NUfIh6Yc5sZ9Rkn2sngkeHt4mpXVx95cP /IM6udvyfMlNa4Do5gIblsw7QjTaiDBaJ6hhqhyyalvkdoGsMecu4FoH04ZuccWQ yMl9O8mmG3+O3NRHfCA/bEuhiw4UJRw6d7fhixkp6IHiCRIIPrE4h7P+xRsbZsJ3 dwOoOZwNucOvm5cWjTPiybqhmCodO/QB6XfIpL008MRmtLMaux8N/SJhAmuwf37g UX1IBXW7p62gfnOiY7GE4YfN9GKTPsdHkM6M/cYUfUx1Dr3SR0em5A== =oTI6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption...

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Re: Crypto, C4 Explosives, and Destroying the Infrastructure
by Michael Wilson 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim May wrote: >However, there are a couple of *obvious* errors. My supposition is that he >"pulled his punches" a little, choosing to gloss over certain things which >would have made the "terrorist" essentially impossible to detect. (The most >glaring error, which he surely knew better about, was to assert that NSA >could break any cipher if given enough time and computer power.) I would assume that anyone considering the potential of infrastructural warfare attacks in a dramatic setting would have to handicap the moves of the opposition force--the mechanisms of tradecraft in the modern age are such that the anti- and counter-terror forces are whistling in the dark as they pass the graveyard. Steve Schear wrote: >Any intelligent terrorist knows that explosives are old hat. >Perhaps this is an opportunity for CPs to join in and re-write the book >with a more factual basis and outcome, are re-publish on-line. I volunteer >to OCR. The modern terrorist or opposition force will use whatever makes them the most effective--if that means, on the cost/benefit curve, that they use explosives, then by all means they will. Terrorism evolves under pressures much the way any other social element does; in this case, evolutionary pressures are those of environment and predators. As the security increases or improves, terrorists have historically advanced as well (guns to explosives when airport security improved, and the coming shift to chemical or biological weapons, as thermal neutron analysis comes on-line). Predators, such as intelligence or law enforcement, merely serve to cull the herd a bit, which is why you see fewer but more effective terrorist attacks, even as narrowly defined in the recent U.S. State Dept. reports. As for publication or other expansion on the subject matter, let me point out my own work on the topic (always pro strong crypto, pro cypherpunks, incidentally). Infrastructural warfare is a field that should interest cypherpunks-- it has been my strongest argument for getting government out of the security and cryptography business for a number of years now. Feel free to reference the URL: http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/4843/ Particularly of interest to cypherpunks (or anyone with an interest in how to run an untraceable opposition force that could give most of the infrastructure a good thrashing): Waging IWAR (1997) >From the Introduction: "So as not to alarm the reader, let me advise you that this paper is intended as an informal presentation of the material, very much in the spirit of 'let us conspire!' What has been sorely lacking in treatments of the infrastructural warfare (IWAR) subject matter has been a practical, personal approach of thinking about, planning, and waging IWAR operations. Given the nature of most of the professionals acting as documentarists, the published materials are strong on theory and speculation, and short on practical guidelines. I shall attempt to begin to fill that gap, and I hope the reader will accept a temporary 'partnership in crime' as we work through the problems facing an opposition force (OpFor) together. This paper is be broken into four sections: -Definitions, assumptions, and theory; the conceptual basis of IWAR is important to review; -Exploration of OpFor as a practical matter; -A set of IWAR potential operations, for which I have chosen a variety of examples; -Defense-In-Depth, battling IWAR." Infrastructural Warfare Threat Model (1997) Abstract: A threat model is essential to proving the validity of the threat posed by infrastructural and information warfare (I2WAR); exploration of the scope/activities of the threat are essential to understanding the threat and mounting a defense against it. An opposition force' is postulated and explored for its intent, organization, communications, recruiting, armament, intelligence gathering and analysis, and funding. A methodology for defining the infrastructure and dependencies is proposed. I2WAR is defined as conflict oriented around denial of service attacks on physical infrastructure elements (including targets such as communications, public utilities, financial organizations, transportation mechanisms, public facilities/events, emergency management services, commerce, and government), denial of service attacks on virtual' infrastructure elements (information warfare), psychological warfare operations (attacks on decision processes), and technologically augmented political warfare (agitation, subversion, rioting; propaganda). Conclusions are drawn, including suggestions for a defense-in-depth. Battle for the Soul of Information Warfare: Pearl Harbor vs. the Hashishim (1997) Abstract: Infowar has at least two distinct camps, each operating with different basic assumptions on the threat. As these assumptions are critical to threat modeling and defense strategies, comparing the differences is essential. The assumptions of the Pearl Harbor' mass denial-of-service infowar attack are contrasted with those of the Hashishim,' subtle efforts of perversion; the historical case is presented to demonstrate the reasoning regarding the labels. Contrasted are assumptions regarding opposition force approach, intent, focus, targets, scale of attack, resources of opposition force, management, command and control, organization, funding, intelligence, defensive focus, and political view of the problem. Considering the Net as an Intelligence Tool (1996) An exploration of the fitness of the net for intelligence gathering and operational support; this is usually an assumption made by many of the theorists on the subject, but I thought a detailed explanation worth engaging in. Michael Wilson 5514706(a)mcimail.com

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No Subject
by Mix 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Sunday, May 18, 1997 - 20:46:37 MET Our form of gov't is based on the Judeo-Christian rooted belief in unalienable rights. (though the concepts has been around long befor judaism) These are rights endowed upon us by the life force, they are inherent in our creation and are subject only to the laws of the universe not by any king, or human leader, and so they cannot be taken away by or infringed on by any human leader or groups. The whole of the physical universe is bound by laws we do not make but can only seek to understand. Tuning in and acting in harmony with the laws of the universe furthers us in our development( ie agriculture). Exploiting the laws greedily leads to our destruction.(ie thoughtless industrialization). Furthering nature/the life force is good, opposing nature, seeking to conquer and exploit it, is bad from our human perspective. The constitution and bill of rights was the original AP document with a series of checks and balance designed to keep ultimate power, the right to speak out, organise, gather together, rise up and bear arms, in the hands of the people so no one group could impose the tyranny of their beliefs and the masses. I believe it is human nature to cast off the bonds of oppression. This is the assertion of the life force that always seeks to sustain and perpetuate itself in the greatest possible array of diversity. I believe this was a major quantum leap in the history of human thought and concioussness. A giant step in the right direction of our true divinity but it was sorely flawed; By the concept of property rights. This is where the founding fathers eogos got in the way. The liberation movements of the last century have been based on the same concept of unalienable rights and have attempted to fine tune the document for a more equitable distribution of planet power to correct the flaw. You don't need a weatherman or a clinton to know which way the wind blows. You don't need to be literate to know who is taking what from whom. You don't need a judge to tell you right from wrong. you have instincts that can tell you just fine. Religion in the earliest sense was the bringing together of the group in an understanding of their commonanlity and uniqueness in a way that stirred up ones feelings of awe for the power of the universe in order that we would discover our commonality while at the same time instilling a repect for each of our uniqness. So we could be inspired to submit to our inner and outer natures and act in harmony with it and show benevolence in our relations with each other. This is the ultimate anarchist, a ninja warrior of natures rainbow, who fights to defend the unalienable rights endowed on all by life force. I believe that most of the folks on this list aspire to a form of self govt. A belief and trust in the anarchy of nature tempered with the benevloence brought about by the recognition of our common humanity. A state of affairs where each is a ninja/captain of their own soul. Who recognize the inhernet rights of all and act accordingly without coercion or direction from an outside source, for the laws of the universe are within us. Who respect the rights of the individual and can let them that would destroy themselves destroy, themselves and them that would live to live. To live and let live and live and let die. I believe the network is the link to the next level of evolution of human thought and self gov't. A new religion where we can rediscover our common humanity and regroup as a planet, as the one human tribe. A way to explore our comon roots and learn and develop appreciation and respect for our differences. Where in spite of all efforts to propagandize and spread hate our commanality will emerge. Where all voices can be heard and equitable solutions worked out. Not by "sheeple" but by people allowing their primal natural instincts to govern their actions to be it to shun, support or defend or defeat someone or something. We are retaking repsonsibility for our selves and our fellow humans. Again, you don't need a Weatherman or an FBI man to know which way the wind blows. Look outside your window then look inside your window. Rainbow Warrior

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test
by Jacks-Biz＠usa.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Jim Bell goes to Jail!
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- - From the Oregonian Sunday edition May 18, 1997 page D-10: IRS agents arrest Vancouver man who called for killing federal workers * James D. Bell, who wrote the 10-part essay, "Assassination Politics," faces charges of interfering with a U.S. officer By John Painter Jr. of the Oregonian staff VANCOUVER - A Vancouver man who has written about assassination of government officials and whose home was raided in April has been arrested by IRS agents on charges of interfering with a federal officer. James D. Bell was held without bail in the Clark County jail. On Monday, the IRS will transport him to U.S. District Court in Tacoma for his first appearance. He was arrested without incident Friday evening while waiting for a bus after work. IRS agents could not be reached for comment, and the complaint underlying the criminal charge was sealed and unavailable. The Clark County Jail confirmed that Bell was a prisoner there, held on a federal detainer. A friend of Bell's, Robert W. East, said Bell phoned him from jail and told him he was arrested for interfering with a federal officer. The affidavit for the April search warrant accused Bell of "directly soliciting others to set up a system to murder government officials" and "obtaining the home address of an IRS employee, as well as information about bombs and bomb-making materials." Bell is the admitted author of a 10-part essay called "Assassination Politics," which has been circulated widely on the Internet, particularly in anti-government forums. "Assassination Politics" discusses creation of an organization to reward those killing public officials while protecting assassins' identities. IRS agents searched East's home in Vancouver on Thursday. East said he was questioned for about 90 minutes, during which time agents asked him about a "stink-bomb attack" on an IRS office in San Diego or Long Beach, Calif., and a "propane bomb" found at another IRS office. In that search agents found a 3- foot carbon fiber that East said he got from Bell for an electrolysis experiment. Federal agents since have focused on a Bell theory that carbon fibers could be used to sabotage computer hard drives, thus disabling them. East confirmed Bell's interest in using carbon fibers as a "computer killer" but dismissed it as a "goofball idea." The search warrant for East's home shows that the government also is interested in determining whether Bell and others have experimented with volatile chemicals in preparation for attacks on IRS offices and agents. The search warrant for Bell's home shows that agents were searching for evidence of "threats, assaults, obstruction, intimidation, solicitation of murder, false statements, and the unlawful use of false social security numbers." Jeff Gordon, a Portland-based IRS special investigator, said he discovered "Assassination Politics" among items seized when IRS agents took Bell's 1986 Honda for unpaid back taxes in February. Bell denied the car was his. An IRS tally of the items inside the car included a document about a "trial" by the Multnomah County Common Law Court in January of several IRS agents, a federal magistrate in Portland, U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno and an IRS commissioner, Margaret Richardson. - --- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 5.0 beta Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM3/BJeQCP3v30CeZAQFSLwf/S5Drnovm0dZQQE5HLODevTOVz6d9NNXK 9f+Aif6Qkf3p+iAsv98vKJv8w/M0ps3st0POuwgPZL8lQNm1IpvnOO1ef70d6vGB 0xuu87+WriZRU1MVScKIxAOYhBAtEOBZEgEAa5RNJi9XzafdMoCTx8VUsDcnVnhg WkNthZ7yB/YouDcOZ3NYk6nsbXC8SxVr8QtDRa2IhIKSCWc3QoAJ7i2Vh//bGZ22 RJBIiF/PxtE/pTLlpJLFgJLmfyffieskdi192kj0ABhp0qxmTiRiaYWftxH2T+s6 2OytBMHYQe8xGqK9ophXVOu/t5hb2aEIH3diEoSkVUG02wdAlAgTqA== =0sB7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- | "Bill Clinton - Bringing back the sixties one Nixon at a time." | |"The moral PGP Diffie taught Zimmermann unites all| Disclaimer: | | mankind free in one-key-steganography-privacy!" | Ignore the man | |`finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key | behind the keyboard.| | http://www.ctrl-alt-del.com/~alan/ |alan(a)ctrl-alt-del.com|

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No Subject
by wraith＠ahrens.callnet.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: PGP 5.0 beta problem
by Lucky Green 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:55 PM 5/18/97 -0700, Steve Schear wrote: >Have any other Mac CPs tried using verion 5.0 with CryptDisk? When the >PGPMenus extension is installed any attempt to open an encrypted volume >generates a "Not enough memory to mount disk" message. I ahve pleanty of >RAM abd suspect a lack of System memory (e.g., stack space). Seems PGP 5.0 still has some major problems. I can't even get the installer to work on Win95. It complains about a lack of disk space. I have >1GB free. -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred "I do believe that where there is a choice only between cowardice and violence, I would advise violence." Mahatma Gandhi

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For Whom the Bell Tolls
by mpd＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The current troubles for Jim Bell, and the representation in government affidavits that casual speculation with friends over infrastructure vulnerabilities constituted some sort of conspiracy to do harm, should make all Cypherpunks nervous. Indeed, such discussions about vulnerabilities and risks have been a central theme of this mailing list over the years. I hope I don't wake up tomorrow morning to headlines in the Seattle Times reading "Atomic Force Microscope Central in Duvos Smartcard Plot" or some equally silly thing, based on an out-of-context grep of the Web archives. It is unfortunate that in a country which advertises itself as some sort of bastion of free speech, one must constantly guard ones speech to make sure that it contains no snippets suitable for an inflammatory sound byte on the evening news. Just another of the many manifestations of "The Policeman Inside." -- Mike Duvos $ PGP 2.6 Public Key available $ mpd(a)netcom.com $ via Finger. $

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