December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Location Escrow anyone ?
by Dave Emery 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This off another list ... More than fair use perhaps, but significant. -------------------------------------------------------- Tracking of Swiss mobile phone users starts row Copyright © 1997 Reuters ZURICH (December 28, 1997 4:12 p.m. EST http://www.nando.net) - Swiss police have secretly tracked the whereabouts of mobile phone users via a telephone company computer that records billions of movements going back more than half a year, a Sunday newspaper reported. The revelation in the SonntagsZeitung newspaper triggered objections from politicians and the country's privacy ombudsman about high-tech snooping on citizens who like the convenience of a mobile phone. Officials from state telephone company Swisscom confirmed the practice, but insisted information about mobile customers was only handed out on court orders. "Swisscom has stored data on the movements of more than a million mobile phone users. It can call up the location of all its mobile subscribers down to a few hundred meters and going back at least half a year," the paper reported. "When it has to, it can exactly reconstruct down to the minute who met whom, where and for how long for a confidential tete-a-tete," it said. Some 3,000 base stations across the country track the location of mobile phones as soon as they are switched on, not just when customers are having conversations, it said. Prosecutors called the records a wealth of information that helped track criminals' movements. "This is a very efficient investigation tool," Renato Walti, an investigating magistrate in Zurich who specialises in organised crime, was quoted as telling the paper. The paper said Swisscom and law-enforcement officials were reluctant to discuss the records, which were supposed to be secret. But it quoted Toni Stadelmann, head of Swisscom's mobile phone division, as saying: "We release the movement profile of mobile telephone customers on a judge's order." SonntagsZeitung said there was no legal basis for storing such information. "I am unaware of any law that would allow the preventative collection of data for investigative purposes," it quoted Odilo Guntern, the federal ombudsman for protecting individuals' privacy, as saying. "Secretly collecting data is highly problematic," added Alexander Tschaeppat, a judge and member of the lower house of parliament. Copyright © 1997 Nando.net -- Dave Emery N1PRE, die(a)die.com DIE Consulting, Weston, Mass. PGP fingerprint = 2047/4D7B08D1 DE 6E E1 CC 1F 1D 96 E2 5D 27 BD B0 24 88 C3 18

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HIP97 photos & hate speech in list opinions
by Antonomasia 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Cpunks (and Bcc list), I've had a kind offer from Judith to scan my HIP photos and display them on the web (www.sabotage.org) This should happen in a few days. The photos include Alex, Judith, DDT, Ulf, Ian Grigg, Lucky, Sameer, Joichi and others. Re: Hate speech and censorship, 22 Dec, Anonymous > On behalf of the non-racist cypherpunks, please accept an apology for > Paul Bradley's racist message: > > uneducated and foolish arabs such as Parekh should stick > > to what they do best: running kebab shops and/or selling cheap fake rolex > > watches to tourists. > This does not reflect the mainstream view on the list. .... I found Sameer perfectly pleasant. IMO the best view to take on mainstream views is that you can't usually tell. Silence could indicate killfiles rather than assent. -- ############################################################## # Antonomasia ant(a)notatla.demon.co.uk # # See http://www.notatla.demon.co.uk/ # ##############################################################

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17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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Long-distance limits on Bells unconstitutional [CNN]
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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Peter Huber on the Orwellian Falacy
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text X-Sender: oldbear(a)pop.tiac.net Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 15:09:58 -0500 To: Digital Commerce Society of Boston <dcsb(a)ai.mit.edu> From: The Old Bear <oldbear(a)arctos.com> Subject: Peter Huber on the Orwellian Falacy Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: bounce-dcsb(a)ai.mit.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: The Old Bear <oldbear(a)arctos.com> HIGH-TECH'S LIBERATING EFFECT As the Internet makes inroads into information-restrictive nations, such as China, efforts to limit access to only "desirable" ideas are doomed to failure, say experts. "The complaint one hears against the Internet isn't that there is too little speech," says Manhattan Institute analyst Peter Huber. "Instead, the argument is that there is too much hateful or pornographic speech. Stalin manipulated the past, altering photos and just wiping people and events out of the historical record. But today, documents and photos get downloaded and stored in files all over the world. You can make corrupt copies, false copies, but you can't erase real copies now." Huber, author of the book "Orwell's Revenge," applauds the move by industry to make encryption products widely available: "It means that we can now create a zone of privacy that the government can't penetrate. That's the exact opposite of what Orwell through would happen." source: Investor's Business Daily December 30, 1997 as summarized by Edupage For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "dcsb-request(a)ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/ Ask me about FC98 in Anguilla!: <http://www.fc98.ai/>

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Re: Guns: H&K, G3, 7.62 v 5.56 [Guns] (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Subject: Re: Guns: H&K, G3, 7.62 v 5.56 [Guns] > From: Ryan Lackey <rdl(a)mit.edu> > Date: 01 Jan 1998 13:47:02 -0500 > 2) In my (somewhat limited) experience, many field-improvised concealment > locations are great during firing, but when you move to cycle the action > on a bolt action rifle, you make the concealment shake or otherwise reveal > yourself. Against a force with sniper/antisniper weaponry, that will likely > All that being said, for field use and home defense, if I'm alone, I'd > take a barrett .50 browning for long-range USMC-style scout-sniping, or You obviously haven't seen the flash or the dust cloud from one of these beasties fired from ground level. Hiding at anything less than a mile is not something you're going to do very well. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make | | violent revolution inevitable. | | | | John F. Kennedy | | | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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IRC Internet chat with Electronic Frontiers (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 15:06:46 -0500 > From: "Robert A. Costner" <pooh(a)efga.org> > Subject: IRC Internet chat with Electronic Frontiers > * To be announced > hosted by Jon Lebkowsky of EF-Texas Woah Nelly, this is the first I have heard of EF-Tx, got any contact info? ____________________________________________________________________ | | | Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make | | violent revolution inevitable. | | | | John F. Kennedy | | | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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No Subject
by Mix 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Okay, I'd like to set up a remailer - but I don't know where to start! Unfortunatly it's going to have to run on an NT 4.0 box, so the winsock remailer is out of the question, right? And I'm not in the US, so I can't use the juno stuff -- so what (if anything) *can* I use? Thanks for any help...

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