December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Homo/bi/sexuals Most Destructive (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > From satan_is_a_hacker(a)juno.com Fri Jan 24 22:06:53 1997 > Subject: Re: Homo/bi/sexuals Most Destructive (fwd) > Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 22:57:52 EST > > YOU ARE BOTH WRONG THE CORRECT TERM IS INDEX CASE > >The correct term is 'Patient 0'. You are welcome to contact the CDC in Georgia and correct their terminology. I am shure they would appreciate it. http://www.cdc.gov/ Their webpage search capability is temporarily down so you might have to talk to a real person, Center for Disease Control and Prevention 1600 Clifton Rd., NE. Atlanta, GA 30333 404-639-3311 Jim Choate CyberTects ravage(a)ssz.com

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Re: Rejection policy of the Cypherpunks mailing list
by dlv＠bwalk.dm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Toto <toto(a)sk.sympatico.ca> writes: > paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk wrote: > > > > John Gilmore is free to appoint > > whoever he wants to moderate his list, he is free to censor all > > messages which criticise him and his censorship, however, subscribers > > to the list should be told they are being censored on these grounds > > and not on some facade of "crypto relevancy" or another thin veil > > drawn weakly over content based censorship to protect a certain class > > of list members. > > It became rather glaringly obvious after moderation was announced > that class structure would be the defining feature of moderation. > Those who felt themselves to be in the 'upper class' made no > bones about it. That's a very insightful obeservation. "Cypher punks" are not opposed to the system. They don't want to change the existing social order. They want to join the upper class and enjoy its privileges (such as privacy and anonymity). They don't want to extend these privileges to the "hoi polloi" (unwashed masses). Jim Bell is a boor, but he had some very interesting ideas that upset the "cypher punk" crowd because he advocates dismantling the system they hope to join one day. This reminds me of a U.S. populist politician from the 1930's whose name I forgot, who advocated expropriating individual wealth above $5M. Why did his disenfranchised supporters want to leave the rich with $5M? Because each one hoped one day to have the $5M. Here's the $64K question: if you were approached by a LEA and offered a huge consulting fee to help break a code to obtain evidence in a criminal case, would you do it? I suspect most "cypher punks" would agree both for the money and for the glory, but no one would ask them because very few people on this list can break codes. :-) [No I would not, irrespective of the fee and the nature of the case.] --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

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Re: [No Subject:]
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi! It's useful to include a subject line in email so people can decide whether to read it and have more context for it, though calling yourself "fuck you" will probably deter a few people. There are lots of anarchists on the net; you can run into some good discussions on Usenet on several newsgroups with "anarchy" or "anarchism" in the titles. Rec.caves has good underground material...... As far as decryption tools goes, they're pretty closely related to encryption algorithms. There's been a discussion, probably on cryptography(a)c2.org (subscribe via cryptography-request(a)c2.org) though maybe it was on cypherpunks, about designing a screen-saver DES-cracker. At 11:47 PM 1/23/97 EST, fuck you wrote: >If anyone has any text files on the following topics please send them. I >have many files if any one else needs them. > >PGP >Making decryption tools >Anarchy >Satan >Anything underground > > > # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, +1-415-442-2215 stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # You can get PGP outside the US at ftp.ox.ac.uk/pub/crypto/pgp # (If this is a mailing list, please Cc: me on replies. Thanks.)

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Re: Fighting the cybercensor. (fwd)
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 07:38 PM 1/23/97 -0600, Jim Choate wrote: >> We here all know that this is right but it's obvious that >> the language is sliding towards Internet = Web. Most people > >Typical modern American attitude, getting it right is too much work so >let's lower the benchmark so anyone can be 'right'. >You'll be supporting Ebonics next. One of the points of the Ebonics program is to recognize that other people don't always speak the same way you do, and that if you want to communicate with them, you'll be more successful if you realize it, understand when they're talking in their dialect, and if you're going to talk back to them in yours, remember to translate on occasion. _Regardless_ of whose dialect is "right" (of course on technical issues, we technical people are right, but if you've got the hacker nature, treat it as a problem in social engineering.......) Speaker to Marketers

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Re: your mail
by tekmasta＠global.california.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 02:37 PM 1/24/97 -0800, you wrote: >On Fri, 24 Jan 1997, fuck you wrote: > >> Are their any H/ P/ V/ A/ C ers on this list?? > > Yes. > >Genocide >Head of the Genocide2600 Group > > >============================================================================ > **Coming soon! www.Genocide2600.com! > ____________________ > *---===| |===---* > *---===| Genocide |===---* "You can be a king or a street > *---===| 2600 |===---* sweeper, but everyone dances with the > *---===|__________________|===---* Grim Reaper." > >Email: gen2600(a)aracnet.com Web: http://www.aracnet.com/~gen2600 > >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > It is by caffeine alone that I set my mind in motion. > It is by the Mountain Dew that the thoughts acquire speed, > the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning. > It is by caffeine alone that I set my mind in motion. >=========================================================================== ===== try my site too http://gcwp.com/fadedimage can anyone help me out with getting pgp working... I just got 2.6.2 excutable the freeware one and its for dos... I need to get one that works with eudora or netscape.... please help! ,_ ,. .`.--- . ,-,-,-. ,---. .---. |_ / | ,-| |__ ,-|.`,| | | ,-.| -' ,-.,'\___ | /~~|-.| |,| | || | ; | .,-|| ,-'|-' \ | ,' `-'`-'`^---`-'' ' `-'`-^`---| `-' `---' ' ,-.| `-+' ,-. . .,-. . . . ,-_/,.,--. | | ,-.,-| | | ,-.,-|,-.,-.,-.,-.,-.. .,-.,-| ' |_|/| | | | .| || | | | .| || ||-'| | || | || || || | /| | | \| `--^-'' '`-' `--^-'' '`-'`-'' `-|' `-'`-'' '`-' `' `'`--\ ,| `' -= http://gcwp.com/fadedimage =-

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Re: Encrypting ZIP disks
by Jeremiah A Blatz 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- "David E. Smith" <dsmith(a)prairienet.org> writes: > 7. Secure sensitive files. > To keep sensitive or confidential information safe, store it > on a Zip disk and use your Zip Tools software to assign a > password that must be used in order to read from or write to > the disk. At work, you can protect sensitive information > such as personnel files, company directories, and product > plans and designs. At home, you can secure personal > information such as tax records, budgets, and computerized > checkbooks. FWIW (not much), Iomega claims that it can't recover the data on a password-protected disk. However, they do export those things, so I doubt it's strong. Jer "standing on top of the world/ never knew how you never could/ never knew why you never could live/ innocent life that everyone did" -Wormhole -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQB1AwUBMumJOskz/YzIV3P5AQHLZAL+MJhEH/aCbB9BX5R4nY4BIRBOGZw8socG 39D0q+UT8sS3YsMaeL6GqfEo04lsnQwAUWtI0I8/FcqYlWVGxwsOAboK3BZmJz40 y3/GmUz5dUpz0PctKbGYYQj/w6pbt/6z =mv67 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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overview.htm
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

_________________________________________________________________ OVERVIEW OF HIV/AIDS _________________________________________________________________ Some important facts about the evidence that HIV causes AIDS are: * Tests for HIV antibody in persons with AIDS show that they are infected with the virus. * HIV has been isolated from persons with AIDS and grown in pure culture. * Studies of blood transfusion recipients before 1985 documented the transmission of HIV to previously uninfected persons who subsequently developed AIDS. Before the discovery of human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), the virus that causes AIDS, epidemiologic studies of AIDS patients' sex partners and AIDS cases occurring in blood transfusion recipients before 1985 clearly showed that the underlying cause of AIDS was an infectious agent. Infection with HIV has been the only common factor shared by persons with AIDS throughout the world, including homosexual men, transfusion recipients, persons with hemophilia, sex partners of infected persons, children born to infected women, and health care workers who were infected with HIV while on the job, mainly by being stuck with a needle used on an HIV-infected patient. Although we know that HIV is the cause of AIDS, much remains to be known about exactly how HIV causes the immune system to break down. Scientists are constantly discovering more information about HIV and AIDS. These discoveries help people learn how to stop transmission of the virus and help people infected with HIV to live longer, healthier lives. One important question to answer is why some people exposed to HIV become infected and others do not. Scientists believe it is most likely because of how infectious the other person is and how they are exposed. For example, more than 90 percent of persons who were exposed through an HIV-infected unit of blood became infected. So we know that blood-to-blood contact is a very efficient way that HIV is spread. On the other hand, many health care workers are splashed with blood or bloody body fluids and this type of exposure has caused very few occurrences of HIV infection. Researchers know how HIV is spread and the ways that people can help protect themselves from being exposed to HIV. If you have questions about HIV infection and AIDS, please call the CDC National AIDS Hotline at the tollfree number, 1-800-342-2437. If you wish to write to CDC regarding this subject, please write to the CDC National AIDS Clearinghouse, Post Office Box 6003, Rockville, Maryland, 20849-6003. _________________________________________________________________ Back to HIV/AIDS Information Return to HIV/AIDS Information Back to DHAP home page GO BACK TO DHAP HOME PAGE (with graphics) (text only) _________________________________________________________________ Last Updated: June 13, 1996 Updated By: Technical Information Activity email: hivmail(a)cidhiv1.em.cdc.gov

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Re: Homosexuals
by Attila T. Hun 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In <199701241414.GAA25350(a)toad.com>, on 01/24/97 at 07:17 AM, "Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM" <dlv(a)bwalk.dm.com> said: +Anything? My good friend TRRCJ3 reports from San Francisco that the +city is much nicer now that so many homosexuals are 6 feet under. +Thank God for AIDS. when AIDS was relatively obscure, I always dismissed AIDS as God's response to homosexuality (and other crimes against nature); i.e. -settlement by a just God. Unfortunately, some of these boy-girls could not keep it among themselves, and the closet queens brought it home. AIDS replicates asexually, knowing no boundaries. I would not wish the disease upon anyone, but if you play, you just might pay --as in "...reap what thy hath sown." One of the saddest commentaries on the entire problem is the man, a Pan-American flight steward, who was identified as carrier #1 by the Communicable Disease Center (CDC) in Atlanta; he died protesting he did not have the disease, nor was he a carrier. The flight steward was still sexually active until his impending death removed even his ability to passively participate. Unfortunately, he was not only in total denial as to the disease and its communicability, but he was also immensely profligate, having surrendered to total licentiousnous. To be strongly opposed to homosexuality has nothing to do with bigotry, political correctness, or aberrationist apologists; it is an exposition of the natural order among the species. and for those who deny God, read Darwin as to the relative rate of survival for deviant and/or abnormal species. == "eschewing my enmity is exemplary, even transcending my fraternity. --attila -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 Comment: Encrypted with 2.6.3i. Requires 2.6 or later. iQCVAwUBMukZO704kQrCC2kFAQHdVgP+K5WJPhgPDY3DJerIYHmz4PbsItrSQCF0 eoS2wyYVTG3PZ5YDhk+dRfn2OuhEE0n/vLiDlXakAjqQBtncyIF74pfE4mxn3DWC 1xLMJr9vFI7x0soX6sPIzSD9Yh0CyKHIk75r/RQk2T4doVoGSxJWbe0YKCItiGz4 PvH9hGh6F7E= =A2up -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Cellular location...
by aaron＠herringn.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Presented in a "this will help 911" context. Still disconcerting. [...] Companies working on the technology to track cellular phone calls have been given additional incentive with a Federal Communications Commission order that all cell phone service companies have location programs in place by the year 2001. [...] http://cnn.com/US/9701/22/911.rescue/index.html

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Re: Rejection policy of the Cypherpunks maiing list
by Dale Thorn 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Cynthia H. Brown wrote: > Beauty, flames and censorship are all in the eyes of the beholder. > However, by providing both "raw" and "cooked" versions of the list, Sandy > is allowing readers to choose for themselves whether or not they want > someone else's filters applied to their mailbox. Personally, I choose to > press the "Delete" key myself. > Agreed, and said private individual can do as s/he sees fit. My only > objection is that the moderated version has the same name as the original > list (sounds like Rogers Cable's recent attempt at "Costs More Unless You > Speak Up Now" channels). I apologize for intruding, Cynthia, but I have a question about "doing as s/he sees fit". For example, what is the list? Is it the equipment, is it the software that runs on the equipment, or is it the contents of the list (my writings, your writings, etc.)? If I had to rank them, I would rank the contents as being more important than the equipment or the software. That said, how can those contents be considered the property of the list owner/manager to do with as they see fit? I do understand that they have the right to manage the list as they see fit, and to move the messages into whatever buckets seem appropriate, but your phrasing suggested more to me, and I'm puzzled by it.

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