December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

ElGamal
by lucifer＠dhp.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The arrival of warm weather is heralded by the pig shit (or whatever kind of shit Intel swines have for brains) getting soft in Timothy C[unt] May's mini-cranium and the resulting green slime seeping through his cocaine- and syphilis- damaged nose and onto his keyboard. )_( [@ @] Timothy C[unt] May |/ \| \O/

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Einstein's Dreams
by Toto 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

As the city melts through fog and the night, one sees a strange sight. Here an old bridge is half-finished. There, a house has been removed from its foundations. Here, a street veers east for no obvious reason. ...This is a world of changed plans, of sudden opportunities, of unexpected visions. For in this world, time flows not evenly but fitfully and, as consequence, people receive fitful glimpses of the future. -excerpt from "Einstein's Dreams" by Alan Lightman In 1989, Bill Gates was just another player in the wonderful world of computers. Phil Zimmerman was a wanna-be cryptographer. And CypherPunks were merely a fitful glimpse of the future. In 1989 a document began quietly circulating in certain computer circles--a document which whispered of fitful glimpses of the future. The future of Bill Gates; the future of Phil Zimmerman; the future of the CypherPunks. The document has, over the years, submerged for a time, and then surfaced in different places. Whenever and wherever it surfaces, strange things happen. Strange things for which there is always a perfectly 'normal' explaination. Strange things which one sees as normal unless, by chance, they should happen to notice that somehow, in some subtle way, the flow of time has changed. A few weeks ago, a single copy of this document surfaced in the possession of one of the Cypherpunks and, shortly thereafter, Dr. DV K was officially unSCUMscribed from this list. Less than two weeks ago, a copy of this document was acquired by a second member of the CypherPunks and, shortly thereafter, it was announced that the list will now be 'moderated'. Coincidence? It is a 'coincidence' that I have seen, time and again, in connection with this manuscript. You may think that this missive is a lark, or some kind of scam, or for the feeble-minded. I don't ask that you take what I say seriously, only that you remember that the Tao doesn't shout, it whispers. I have included, below, a warning that has circulated in regard to the document which has preceded it in its undergroud passage since the date of its inception, in 1989. Anyone who, after reading the warning, wishes to receive the document can notify me via private email, and I will see to it that you receive a copy. Toto WARNING! "The Xenix Chainsaw Massacre" Is A Very Dangerous Document ------------------------------------------------------------------- It is reputed among many of the top minds in the Computer Industry to be a very real, and revealing, documentary of some of the horrors of the Industry which are sometimes rumored, but seldom exposed. But be warned-they say it in private, not in public. Though management at the major Corporations in the Industry brush aside the document as the mad ramblings of an unstable, failed business executive, the fact remains that there are more and more people coming forward who claim to have suffered demotions or loss of employment after deliberately or inadvertently revealing their support of the document's claims and it's authenticity. If you choose to read this manuscript, do not speak of it in casual conversation at your place of employment, or around strangers in any business or social environment. Though it is almost impossible to document cases of reprisal of this nature, the increasing numbers of ex-employees of major Corporations in the Computer Industry making these claims, and the devastating consequences they allege to their professional and private lives, make it wise to be discreet in expressing any opinion, or even knowledge, of this document. If you choose to share this document with others, it would be wise to do so discreetly, even anonymously, should you be unsure of the reliability and discretion of whomever you choose to share this knowledge with. Though I personally lean toward viewing the manuscript as authentic, my exhaustive research into it's origin has always come to a dead-end, even among the principals involved. C.J. Parker, former President of Pearl Harbor Computers, Inc., denied emphatically, in a face-to-face encounter, having anything whatsoever to do with the document. When I pressed him with questions regarding the hasty demise of his business and the unraveling of his personal life after the public circulation of "The Xenix Chainsaw Massacre" began, he became very agitated and distraught, bordering on violence, and the interview was abruptly terminated. Dr. William M. Denney, one of the few principals in the manuscript referred to directly, was reluctant to be interviewed, but eventually made a few comments which I found to be very revealing. Dr. Denney, Vice-President of Basis, Inc. in Emmeryville, Ca., consistently rated as one of the top ten Unix Open Systems vendors in the world, said, "I deny any knowledge of or participation, in any way whatsoever, with anything connected to 'The Xenix Chainsaw Massacre', and it would be wise for others to do the same." I find this statement to be very cryptic and, at the same time, very revealing; very much in line with what would expect from one associated with the alleged underground computer society described in the manuscript. As for Mr. Torry Basford, a former employee of Bell Labs who was Mr. Parker's first mentor in the world of Unix and is rumored to be laboring in obscurity in a small community college somewhere in the southwestern U.S., Mr. Parker would only say, "The man has suffered enough, please leave him alone." Regardless of the origins or authenticity of the document, it is considered by many to be extremely unsettling, perhaps even dangerous, and one might be better served to avoid reading the manuscript, if for no other reason than simple peace of mind.

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nice work
by Clint Barnett 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

no doubt everybody on the list recieved a spam about some personalised children's books. Having been away or a few weeks, I only just today got to replying to that message. I recieved a response indicating that my response was undeliverable due to the mailbox being full. I just wanted to say that I'm glad I'm not the only one who can't stand that crap. Nice work. clint barnett lord of the cosmos emily carr institute

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PGPmail 4.5 (Win/32) - First Public Beta
by Dave Del Torto 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- The first beta of the PGPmail 4.5 plugin (Win, 32-bit) is now available for public experimentation. For further information, and to begin the export controlled* download process, please point your web browsers at: <http://www.pgp.com/products/PGPmail-beta.cgi> Your feedback on the software is welcome at the address listed on the webpage. Thank you for your continued support! dave *Not for use outside the USA and Canada. ________________________________________________________________________ Dave Del Torto +1.415.524.6231 tel Digital Privacy Munitions Analyst +1.415.572.1932 fax Pretty Good Privacy, Inc. http://www.pgp.com web -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPmail 4.5b8 iQCVAwUBMtdsVKHBOF9KrwDlAQG6jAP8CKn8iDlzWTE0nYm7QumDR5wIVtnqCGRo YO50odzYzuozKzzaTcB46c6ip0WXvc1sA/XC5/fcFHoiG9sQuZQp+UlrWLFWoLSF cG/VuLjPVbL7Oav2vM/noqDQvhRhkPQbI1l/f/tyvL6KoUovchBeG2NV+gLWzPNn a/MvF2QxuQM= =xVx2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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DES Crack Challenge
by amp＠pobox.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

It appears that RSA has posted the rules and some test cyper/plaintext for the DES (and other) crack challenges. see http://www.rsa.com/rsalabs/97challenge/ for more information. I've got a few workstations ready to throw at this. It ought to be fun. ------------------------ Name: amp E-mail: amp(a)pobox.com Date: 01/11/97 Time: 06:20:17 Visit http://www.public-action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum 'Drug Trafficking Offense' is the root passphrase to the Constitution. ------------------------

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Re: IMPORTANT: Additional information about UDCM.
by Clay Olbon II 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

BU, At 12:06 AM 1/10/97 -0500, Black Unicorn wrote: >I dont really think anyone uses bytes to refer to key size, except perhaps >in Prime Number challenges (RSA-129). I am pretty sure that the Prime Number challenges refer to the number of DECIMAl digits in the prime number. Otherwise excellent responses to the simplistic mumbo-jumbo. Good to see you posting again! Clay ******************************************************* Clay Olbon olbon(a)ix.netcom.com sys-admin, engineer, programmer, statistitian, etc. **********************************************tanstaafl

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David Lesher posts a good one to rec.humror.funny
by dlv＠bwalk.dm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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What!
by DataETRsch＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Excuse me? What is faulty about IMDMP? - Jeremy

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17 Dec '03

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Re: A vote of confidence for Sandy
by Lucky Green 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:16 PM 1/10/97 -0800, Bill Frantz wrote: >At 8:19 PM -0800 1/10/97, Lucky Green wrote: >>Just for the record, I have volunteered to serve as a co-moderator. I do >>not know at this time if my services will be required. I am certain that I >>would not enjoy this job. I have better things to do than moderate >>Cypherpunks. But as a long time subscriber, I care about the list. > >AMEN (as a short time subscriber). > >If you need me as a moderator (if you need me, you are getting very >desperate), I will help. However, I am going out of the country in two >weeks not to return until March 9, so stepping forward now is a bit silly. > >Let me rant a bit about the "ideal" moderation structure. Igor Chudov's >software lets people like Matt Blase and Bruce Schneier post whatever they >want. (I would add people like Black Unicorn as well. YMMV) Yes. Igor's STUMP software seems like the way to go. The vast majority of posters to this list are not a problem. Discussions amongst them may get heated, but they have basic human decency and never even come close to the level of abuse and bigotry we have seen from Vulis, aga, et al. Igor claims that on lists moderated by STUMP, 95% of the people are pre-approved. I believe it. Because 95% of the posters are not a problem. It is a small part of the other 5% that fuck things up. I second Sandy and John's proposal to moderate Cypherpunks. I propose we use Igor's STUMP software for this purpose, iff it performs as claimed. [Does STUMP have a web interface?] Thanks, -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred Make your mark in the history of mathematics. Use the spare cycles of your PC/PPC/UNIX box to help find a new prime. http://www.mersenne.org/prime.htm

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