December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

xnoisesph.c
by Rick Campbell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- It looks like the original headers got stripped off of this (at toad?). Could the author of xnoisesph.c please contact me directly? I have some questions about the code. Thanks. Rick - ------- Forwarded Message From: owner-cypherpunks(a)toad.com Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 07:09:16 -0500 Mutatis Mutantdis writes: > >I've got a short program for the PC (w/TPascal source) that plots a > >noise sphere from a file of (pseudo) random data, . . . Here's a version of it for X Windows, translated into plain-old C. . . . xnoisesph.c Compiled on Linux with: cc -o xnoisesph xnoisesph.c -L /usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 -lm - ------- End of Forwarded Message -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMVvlXxj0UvMeUesFAQHQ6gQAxdI8otmXPrHlPtmetv73Hq05dDqZNmgg qDyrrKqVQyURElQ+82uWYpA/5WbhhcwGg0SUNn3hvR5pg4LouqyPQjMTb6C69nQF eEHuSmym2MXE4TqDFhgMvbcv54m3ixHGa3RdhWMUeA4Y2il0+WwQJP+igcybJR95 JF4AAQagMzM= =ePqE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Rick Campbell <campbell(a)c2.org> http://www.c2.org/~campbell/

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Re: New crypto bill to be introduced
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 06:03 PM 3/28/96 -0500, Declan B. McCullagh wrote: >At CFP today, we heard about a new crypto bill being introduced >tomorrow, which will be similar to Leahy's bill with the >crypto-being-used-in-furtherance-of-crime portion removed and an >explicit no-government-mandated-escrow provision added. While this does sound like progress, I'm suspicious. Peter Junger's analysis raised serious doubt as to the ability of bill to open up the crypto export market as it purported to. And where, exactly, did this these changes come from? Who was consulted? What recommendations were NOT taken? >We have put our "List of Shame" numbers on our nametags. >-Declan You're overdoing it on this "List of Shame" thing. You don't know who actually made those anonymous postings, and it's been observed that those names seem to correspond nicely with an NSA-hate list. It would not take a great deal of imagination to conclude that the NSA was motivated to de-focus our anger at the Leahy bill and replace it with a great deal of back-stabbing commentary. (If that was the intent, it succeeded...) On the other hand, I've also noticed that there hasn't been a lot of specific analysis of the Leahy bill in the last few weeks, and my suggestion that the Leahy bill be informally re-written to address Junger's objections (as well as my own, and Tim May's, etc) has not resulted in a great deal of repair work. Now, miraculously, a replacement bill appears that includes SOME repairs. (obviously, we have to wait to hear how most of it comes out...) I get the impression that we are being sequentially offered ice cream cones with decreasing amounts of poison in them, in the hopes that at some point we'll bite. It seems to me that whoever is writing these bills should be willing to make a statement about what his goals are, and who he's talking to as he crafts them, and what changes he was UNwilling to include. Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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Re: Why Americans feel no compulsion to learn foreign languages
by Herb Sutter 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 02:13 03.28.1996 -0800, Timothy C. May wrote: >Yes, this is mostly my point. And it is not just me I'm talking about--I >don't see a compelling need for 95% of Americans to learn a second >language...in fact, I'd rather they learned to speak and read English >properly. > >(All of the America-bashers who were chiming in earlier today with their >anti-American jokes...well, here's one for you: "What do you call someone >who knows how to speak and write English properly? A European.") Hold on, hold on... :-) As the first to post along that line, may I reiterate I'm in no way "anti-American"? It's just that some Americans (and some Canadians, and especially some Englishmen) do have a reputation in the world for going places and expecting the natives to speak their language. It gets interpreted as arrogance, sometimes unjustly. Hence some of the jokes. Funny thing: I rarely hear someone who does know another language argue that it's not desirable and beneficial; only among the unilingual do I regularly find such strong feelings. As a wise man once said (sorry, source unknown): "If you do not know another language, you do not know your own." There's a lot of truth to that... I never knew English as well as I do now before I learned French, and German in particular helped immensely. Fact is, once you know a couple of languages in that group, the others (e.g., Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish) are relatively easy to pick up because now you start seeing the underlying patterns -- that in itself being a big part of knowing your own language better. Or, as a more contemporary souce (I <g>) would put it: "Speaking with only one language is like seeing with only one eye." But try to explain colour to a blind man... :-/ >very few Americans have any _continuing_ way to use the languages we learn. >Which is a major reason they are being dropped by many schools. I agree; I haven't used French practically at all in over 12 years. However, had I never learned it, I would have been diminished (and, worse, never known my ignorance). A language is not just about word-communication; it is about thought, expression, and especially point of view. There are things you can say in English that you could never say the same way in German, and vice versa; which means that there are ideas and viewpoints you could never fully appreciate without another language. If some folks feel this is unnecessary, well, they can get through life quite well with just one tongue... that's their decision. Anyway, apologies for starting this tangent here, since its crypto relevance is zero or less. :-) I only wanted to express why the word "compulsion" in this thread's new title already speaks volumes to me, and to help explain why this sort of thing sounds to outsiders like another form of isolationism (not that many countries haven't been getting accused of that recently, particularly in the East; it's not just a Western thing). --- Herb Sutter "If ignorance is bliss, why aren't there more happy people?" "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from."

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Re: (X:x)e$ 's other use
by Scott Schryvers 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:30 PM 3/26/96 -0800, you wrote: >At 04:05 PM 3/26/96 EDT, E. ALLEN SMITH wrote: >> The >> Fed has done an actually rather admirable job of standing up to the pressure > >Every couple of years the politicians start leaning on Greenspan. Greenspan >lets it be known they are leaning on him, the money markets mark the >dollar down and the politicians stop leaning on him. > >The Greenspan standard is not a good as a gold standard, but its not bad. Only >trouble is he is mortal, unlike gold. > >Come to think of it, there is actually some crypto relevance here: Internet >currencies will be necessarily non physical and it will be difficult to go >after the issuer in the event of default, so the best currency will have a >value that depends on peoples belief that the issuer will defend the value >of the currency. Strange how religion and monetary markets work. They both demand the suspension of fact and or physical items in favor of some ethereal object or person's view of reality. I'm not saying that the dollar is some object that does not physically exist, I'm just saying that the value inherent is no longer based on a physical item. Question. If e-cash were backed by gold would that make it more reliable than say the dollar? PGP encrypted mail preferred. Scott J. Schryvers <schryver(a)radiks.net> -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQENAzFX9usAAAEH/2r2eovPAoYZbxzmfJ1DW7yjjdVnckXjUVKU/zZNAUV/IjzF GDEq040wbAG1rFHDYoBOjjJTOGWMFuZ9apqoAvvI7Q4NAmVrNif0Rp8q/j4jib13 dlAA4Q0nvJZ5YNw4sf4r0iug76+9i0WpIZoP60DEB8BTuyCP55+nsbe7Ii3xLRyq ThZ2fhNqK2hD/rFugXK29Ynyzuc6TuFfu78kVOsYUUbQpplXyaLjhGKN94pZ5jox x7/wvqmBoH9E3rnaIPY9vOwy3kvMmCTlkjhlCzMXZHDn0e3UHWAax2mUTMttRzzi +SUv45h6ua+eSwUkA8uojojn/JiPOKIPwPk3hq0ABRG0KFNjb3R0IEouIFNjaHJ5 dmVycyA8c2Nocnl2ZXJAcmFkaWtzLm5ldD4= =58dK -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

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Controversys in security
by Jason Roissetter 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I am currently writting a report into the controverys invovled with data encyption and have desided to target the current DES system, I have found pages on the internet explaining the new triple DES system thought i need more information on the current controversys involved with the current DES system i'm aware that the key is no longer long enough for data to be protected for any amount of time, thought i really need more information to draw conclutions, if there is anyone with information could they please forward it to me. jason roissetter

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Re: Randomness paper (posting it)
by rollo＠artvark.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

OK. Post it WHERE? >> Postscript, only in FrameMaker format, or as Interchange - MIF or as Text. > >If you can save it as text, then please post it as text. > > Yiorgos Adamopoulos adamo(a)noc.ntua.gr > National Technical University of Athens, NOC Rollo Silver | e-mail: rollo(a)artvark.com | Artvark | Home page: http://www.artvark.com/artvark/ | PO Box 219 | Voice: 505-586-0197 | San Cristobal, NM 87564 USA | Compuserve 71174,1453 | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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Re: So, what crypto legislation (if any) is necessary?
by Paul_Koning/US/3Com%3COM＠smtp1.isd.3com.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

unicorn @ schloss.li (Black Unicorn) wrote: >On Tue, 26 Mar 1996, Duncan Frissell wrote: >>... >> In fact, I suppose that government operation of the identification system >> (drivers' licenses, passports, etc.) in general is also horribly inefficient >> and should be attacked on efficiency grounds. > >You might not like what you get in response. Streamlined and uniform >identity documents generated at birth and renewed with tax filings would >be the likeliest efficiency improvement. An inefficient government >identification system is to the advantage of the privacy seeker. Indeed. A wise man once said "Thank goodness we don't get all the government we pay for". Government inefficiency is our friend (except at tax time) -- don't wish for it to get more efficient unless it gets a lot smaller FIRST. paul !----------------------------------------------------------------------- ! Paul Koning, NI1D, C-24183 ! 3Com Corporation, 1-3A, 118 Turnpike Road, Southborough MA 01772 USA ! phone: +1 508 229 1695, fax: +1 508 490 5873 ! email: paul_koning(a)isd.3com.com or paul_koning(a)3mail.3com.com ! Pgp: 27 81 A9 73 A6 0B B3 BE 18 A3 BF DD 1A 59 51 75 !----------------------------------------------------------------------- ! "The only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over ! any member of a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent ! harm to others. His own good, either physical or moral, is not ! a sufficient warrant." -- John Stuart Mill, "On Liberty" 1859

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InfoWarCon IV - Final Schedule
by winn＠Infowar.Com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

P L E A S E D I S T R I B U T E W I D E L Y F I N A L S C H E D U L E IW4 -- InfoWarCon (Europe) '96 Fourth International Conference on Information Warfare: Defining the European Perspective Brussels, Belgium May 23-24 1996 Sponsored by: National Computer Security Association Winn Schwartau, President and CEO, Interpact, Inc. Robert David Steele, Chairman & CEO, Open Source Solutions Group CoSponsors: IBM Internet Security Systems, Inc. Jane's Information Group Network Systems, Inc. Norman Data Defense Background Information Warfare represents a global challenge that faces all late-industrial and information age nation states. It also represents the easiest and cheapest way for less developed nation-states and religious or political movements to anonymously and grieviously attack major nations and international corporations. Not only are the definitions of InfoWar unclear, but they span many areas and disciplines. This conference will examine the European perspectives on all three classes of Information Warfare while contributing some American lessons learned, mistakes made and successes enjoyed. Class One: Personal Privacy Class Two: Industrial and Economic Spying and Warfare Class Three: Global Conflict, Terrorism and the Military As at all other Information Warfare Conferences, this special European Conference encourages active audience participation, contribution and debate. May 22, 1996 17:00 - 20:00 Pre-Registration 18:00 - 21:00 Hosted Cocktail Party with Music Meet Mr. Schwartau, Mr. Steele and many of our other distinguished guests and conference speakers for casual 'off-line' conversation.. May 23, 1996 07:00 - 08:30 Registration 07:00 - 08:30 Sponsored Continental Breakfast PLENARY SESSIONS 08:30 - 09:00 Keynote Speech Maj. General Edwin Ebert J-6 Assistant Chief of Staff (C4I) USA 09:00 - 10:00 "Information Warfare: Chaos on the Electronic Superhighway" Winn Schwartau, President and CEO, Interpact, Inc., USA 10:00 - 11:15 East Versus West: Military Views of Information Warfare Moderator: Robert Steele East: General Nikolai Ivanovich Turko, Information Warfare Russia West: US - Gen. Jim McCarthy USAF (Retired) 11:15 - 11:45 Sponsored Break 11:45 - 13:00 Information Warfare or Information in Warfare? Support for Conventional War Fighting Moderator: Winn Schwartau Panel: Russia: Admiral Vladimir Semenovich Pirumov (Retired) Chairman of Scientific Counsel of the Russian Security Counsel Sweden: Navy Captain Bo Wallendar UK: Captain Patrick Tyrell, Assistant Director, Information Warfare Policy, Ministry of Defence 13:00 - 13:30 Dealing with Internet Intruders in Emergency Mode: An IBM Perspective Peter Streibelt, IBM Europe Program Manager for Advanced Networking and Internet Emergency Response 13:30 - 14:30 Lunch BREAKOUT SESSIONS 14:30 - 16:00 Breakout One: Defending Against the Internet: The Threat to European Civil Prosperity Moderator: Mich Kabay, Klaus-Peter Kossakowski, DFN-CERT, Univ. of Hamburg, Germany Christopher Klaus, CEO and Founder, Internet Security Systems, US Peter Streibelt, IBM Europe Breakout Two: "Paradigm Shift" Moderated by: Winn Schwartau Dr. Phillipe Beaumard, University of Paris, France Colonel George Dunlop, USAF 16:00 - 16:30 Sponsored Break PLENARY SESSION 16:30 - 18:00 "Hackers: National Resources or Merely Cyber-Criminals?" Co-Moderators: Mich Kabay, Ph.D., Director of Education, NCSA and Robert Steele, President, OSS, Inc. Rop Gonggrijp - Hactic and The Digital City, Amsterdam, Andy Mueller-Maguhn, CHAOS Computer Club Germany "Frantic" - Anthony C. Zboralski - Convicted French Hacker 18:00 - 21:00 Hosted Reception 21:00 - 23:00 Self-paid Dinners for "Birds of a Feather." Rallying points will be provided. May 24, 1996 07:00 - 8:30 Sponsored Continental Breakfast 08:30 - 9:00 Keynote Speech "Efforts to Maximize Information As New Age Weapon" General Pichot-Duclos, France PLENARY SESSIONS 9:00 - 10:00 "Creating Smart Nations Through National Information Strategies: Intelligence And Security Issues" Robert David Steele, President, OSS, Inc. US 10:00 - 11:15 "The Convergence of Military and Commercial Vulnerabilities" Moderator: Winn Schwartau Panel: Bob Ayers, Chief IW Division, DISA, Department of Defense, US Captain Patrick Tyrell, Assistant Director, Information Warfare Policy, Ministry of Defence, United Kingdom 11:15 - 11:45 Sponsored Break 11:45 - 13:00 Societal Impact of Information Warfare Moderator: Winn Schwartau, Panel:The Croatian View: Pedrag Pale, Chairman of the InfoTech Coordinating Committee, Ministry of Science, Technology, and Informatics Dr. Ken Dark, Fellow, University of Camabridge, UK 13:00 - 13:30 Sponsored Luncheon Presentation 13:30 - 14:30 Special Luncheon Presentation BREAKOUT SESSIONS 14:30 - 16:00 Breakout One: Legislation & Personal Privacy: A Global Electronic Bill of Rights? Dr. Mich Kabay, Director of Education, NCSA Simon Davies, Electronic Privacy International, UK Dr. Leroy Pearce, Senior Technical Advisor, representing MajGen Leech, Asst. Deputy Minister of Defence Information Services, Canada Breakout Two: "Industrial Espionage: An Update" Moderator: Robert Steele Maurice Najman, Television Coorespondent, France Miguel Chamorro, Exec. Director, Interpol (invited) UK, Arish Turle, Kroll Associates 16:00 - 16:30 Sponsored Break PLENARY 16:30 - 18:00 Defining War in the Information Age "The New National Security" Brief comments by Winn Schwartau and Robert Steele - and then a lively interactive audience debate. 18:00 - 18:10 Closing Comments 18:00 - 20:00 No-Host Reception For complete schedules, and information on InfoWarCon IV (Europe) MAIL OR FAX OR EMAIL: National Computer Security Association 10 South Courthouse Avenue Carlisle, PA 17013 Phone 717-258-1816 or FAX 717-243-8642 EMAIL:conference@ncsa.com To obtain the latest edition of this program, send EMail to: euroinfowar(a)ncsa.com For more information about NCSA: WWW: http://www.ncsa.com CompuServe: GO NCSA Email: info(a)ncsa.com Sponsorships for various InfoWarCon (Europe) 96 events are still available. To Find out how to sponsor portions: Contact Paul Gates at the NCSA: pgates(a)ncsa.com To reach: Winn Schwartau: winn(a)infowar.com Robert Steele: ceo(a)oss.net V 1.19/3.11.96 SH Peace Winn Winn Schwartau - Interpact, Inc. Information Warfare and InfoSec V: 813.393.6600 / F: 813.393.6361 Winn(a)InfoWar.Com

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Re: So, what crypto legislation (if any) is necessary?
by jamesd＠echeque.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Thu, 28 Mar 1996, jim bell wrote: > > Escrowing encrypted keys makes them useless to subpoena, and in > > fact it helps the key owner because the escrow agent can (and, in fact, > > must!) be obligated to inform the key owner if his key is requested. At 05:49 AM 3/29/96 -0500, Black Unicorn wrote: > I thought I would take the time to let everyone know that this is > baseless as well. Most jurisdictions forbid third parties to reveal > prosecution inquries to the principal for which they are holding > documents or other information. A VERY few have laws on the books that > require this disclosure. Switzerland is no longer one of them. If you had actually read the article that you criticize you would have noticed that the "must" was enforced by cryptographic protocols, not by the blunt sword of the law. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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Open letter from the Congressional Internet Caucus
by Declan B. McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------- Forwarded message begins here ---------- Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 09:45:11 -0800 From: Congressional Internet Caucus <inetcauc(a)hr.house.gov> Organization: U.S. House of Representatives X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: fight-censorship+(a)andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Open letter from the Congressional Internet Caucus To the Internet Community at-large, Finally, there is something that both Democrats and Republicans can agree on -- it is time to get Congress on-line for the 21st Century. Over the past few years, the Internet has changed the way we communicate, do business and educate our children. Millions of people log-on to the Internet each day to send and receive information. And this new medium has created thousands of new jobs in our nation's economy. As more and more people go on-line and as the Internet becomes a greater part of our daily lives, new questions arise about how to deal with this new medium. Members of Congress are having to make policy decisions on Internet issues that will impact our future. What role, if any, will the federal government have in developing the Internet? How will Congress respond to Internet-related issues? From encryption to indecency, copyright protection to universal service, Congress will need to make prudent public policy decisions about a medium that presents such enormous opportunities for all Americans. Congress must not make these decisions without the full understanding of and familiarity with the Internet. The Internet will also transform Congress and the government. From communicating with constituents to making government documents available on-line, we need to move into the Information Age NOW. Members of Congress need to use the Internet. To solve some of these problems, we are forming the Internet Caucus: a bipartisan, bicameral group of members with diverse viewpoints. What we share is a mutual concern for promoting the Internet. We will not just talk the talk. Caucus members will walk the walk into cyberspace by signing a pledge to 1) educate themselves about the Internet, 2) get on-line, 3) and educate other members about the Internet. The caucus will also serve as a clearinghouse of information for the public and other offices about Internet related issues. With the assistance of an advisory committee comprised of public interest groups, industry, and respected experts on the Internet, members will discuss and debate policy options. We look forward to getting your input on the many issues before Congress. See you on-line! Sincerely, Congressman Rick White http://www.house.gov/white/ Senator Patrick Leahy http://www.house.gov/~leahy Congressman Rick Boucher http://www.house.gov/boucher/welcome.htm Senator Larry Pressler http://www.senate.gov/senator/pressler.html Speaker Newt Gingrich mailto:georgia6@hr.house.gov Congressman Jack Fields Congressman Edward Markey Congressman Mike Oxley http://www.house.gov/oxley/welcome.html Congressman Christopher Cox Congresswoman Anna Eshoo http://www-eshoo.house.gov/ Congressman Bob Goodlatte mailto:talk2bob@hr.house.gov Congressman Tom Campbell mailto:campbell@hr.house.gov Congressman Robert Walker http://www.house.gov/walker/welcome.html Congresswoman Jennifer Dunn mailto:dunnwa08@hr.house.gov Congressman Vern Ehlers http://www.house.gov/ehlers/welcome.html Senator Slade Gorton http://www.senate.gov/senator/gorton.html Senator Conrad Burns http://www.senate.gov/~burns Senator Ron Wyden http://www.senate.gov/senator/wyden.html Congressman Sam Farr http://www.house.gov/farr/welcome.html Congressman Bill Luther http://www.house.gov/luther/welcome.html

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