December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: PRESS RELEASE: GERMANY CENSORS DUTCH WEBSITE WWW.XS4ALL.NL
by John Gilmore 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Xs4all Internet will rotate the IP-numbering of the website www.xs4all.nl > to ensure that it's 3100 userpages will all remain available for any > internet-user. While you are at it, you could move just the censored material to a separate IP address from the rest of the archives, and issue Web redirects for requests sent to the old address. In fact it might be interesting to redirect readers to various mirror sites automatically, at random and in rotation. Thus, when someone connects to your web site to read censored material, they will be automatically redirected to one of dozens or hundreds of other places where the material can be found. The German censors will likely find it impossible to block access to all those sites (and each such site can also be changing its IP address periodically). It's my impression that the draft Mobile-IP protocols will make it possible for a site to use IP addresses from all over the Internet. Mobile IP is normally designed for permitting a physical host to move to various physical locations while retaining a fixed logical IP address (corresponding to its "home" location). It can probably also be used to permit a physical host at a single physical location to respond to multiple logical IP addresses at multiple virtual "home" locations. See http://www.ietf.org/html-charters/mobileip-charter.html, or search for "Mobile IP" in a web search engine. The Mobile IP protocols require strong authentication in order to "move" around the network securely. We hope this will prevent them from being used to subvert Internet hosts. However, in the presence of *cooperation* from a variety of Internet sites, they can also be used to make the physical location and Internet-address of actual stored information invisible to the requesters of that information -- and to the censors attempting to block access to it. Curiously enough, the National University of Singapore has implemented Mobile IP for Linux! See http://zaphod.ee.nus.sg/mip/. Even in the backyards of the most egregious censors, freely available technology for combatting censorship is being built and distributed. (A second Linux implementation from http://anchor.cs.binghamton.edu/~mobileip/ is also available.) John Gilmore

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Re: Reputation in action
by gregburk＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Well, this looks like a chance to quickly correct some mistakes without spending a lot of time framing the issue. tcmay(a)got.net (Timothy C. May) writes: > But this latest episode illustrates the role of reputations. Namely, my own > reputation is not being harmed by bizarre commentaries from the Vulis-bot. ..among people who directly know you. You seem to see this as an example of reputations in action. But there isn't any "repute" in there at all. Surely this grand theoretical "reputation" framework isn't needed to describe simple direct experience. And it seems to me that your usage of "reputation" has at different times meant both direct and indirect exposure. This clearly discards important information, often to the detriment of your analysis. Perhaps you can explain why the two separate things are the same in some important way, aside from merely that they both involve esteem. > As its reputation is (apparently) pretty low, and associated with Serdar > Ardic-style rants about "sovoks," "the cabal," and "spit," such an entity > can hardly "assassinate" my character. > A few years ago Larry Detweiler, aka "vznuri" ("visionary"), aka "S.Boxx," > aka "Pablo Escobar," aka several other alternate personalities, wrote > dozens of screeds denouncing me, Eric Hughes, Nick Szabo, Hal Finney, etc. > Did this have an effect on our reputations? Not to people I respected, of > course. And if Detweiler's rants affected my reputation with his peers, > including Dimitri Vulis, Ludwig Plutonium, Doctress Neutopia, Serdar Argic, > well, this is to the good. > In the mathematics of reputations, a negative reputation held by one whose > own reputation is negative is a positive. I don't think this is an example of any such thing. I would not respect a person even a tiny bit more just because a kook disrespects them. In fact, since the kooks frequently hold each other in very low esteem, the suggested polarity-math is self-contradictory. Rather, I think this is an example of how direct exposure supercedes reputation. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.1 iQBVAwUBMjs9GLMyVAabpHidAQE4PQH/dfVepFTivql8LtygN8BBoE/l03K7NOIH HVvH4QbHBY2MyVNviRN9R6MF2LsJRYp5SzFfdC+1vm/ohnhWEYZ4aA== =LdoS -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Fed appellate judge remarks re anonymity, free speech o
by Jean-Francois Avon 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 14 Sep 96 at 20:14, paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk wrote: > >The article quotes Kozinski as saying "I have a severe problem with > >anonymous E-mailers . . . You don't have a right to walk up to > >somebody's door and knock with a bag over your head." The article > >says Kozinski likened anonymous E-mail to menacing someone. > What is the offense involved then, going bagged in a public place? > since when do I or anyone else not have the right to wear a bag on > my head? <BS_mode> Make-up should be outlawed! The potential for turning oneself into an anonymous creature is *way* to big for not being alarming. There ought to be a law! <BR> And beside, although it is often used as an enhancing tool, of what use is the little and irrelevant egoist human pleasure of looking "nice" when we are viewing things from the standpoint a sensitive and poor and terrified child or frail and defenseless woman? </BS_Mode> jfa Jean-Francois Avon, Montreal QC Canada "One of theses centuries, the brutes, private or public, who believe that they can rule their betters by force, will learn the lesson of what happens when brute force encounters mind and force." - Ragnar Danneskjold PGP key at: http://w3.citenet.net/users/jf_avon ID# C58ADD0D : 529645E8205A8A5E F87CC86FAEFEF891

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Crypto Publicity
by Dave Watson 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The Orange County Register, a somewhat conservative daily for the county just south of somewhat more liberal Los Angeles, provided a short plug for crypto in today's editorial page. Not that they're necessarily any better than the others, but positive publicity should be encouraged. "The Clinton administration has been trying to control cryptography completely. It doesn't care that its export controls on cryptography put U.S. companies at a disadvantage, unable to secure properly exports of electronic information. A new group has formed to fight against this censorship: the Internet Privacy Coalition. Concerned businesses and private citizens should check out its web site at: www.privacy.org/ipc/" The register is at www.ocregister.com.

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Pipeline Down
by jyy＠gnn.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Pipeline appears to be down. Maybe a SYN sin, maybe just a Sunday sin. If any unanswered messages to jya(a)pipeline.com, try jyy(a)gnn.com

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ISR on the web
by research＠isr.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Internet Security Review is now available on the web. Have a look at http://www.isr.net ==

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Re: Juno Newbies are Great!
by E. Allen Smith 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: IN%"stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com" "Bill Stewart" 14-SEP-1996 07:37:07.81 >- it's free. Anybody can get on it. Easily. Anonymously, more or less, > since they don't need to have your whole credit history > to be able to charge you money. At most you need a maildrop. As has been previously pointed out, this also makes it nice for disposable remailer front ends. Is anyone currently working on this project? -Allen

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Re: What is best policy paper on crypto?
by norm＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 7:18 PM 9/12/96, Gregg Cooke wrote: .... > > I'm gonna stick my neck out here and ask a naive question: where > can I find "the NAS report" mentioned in this thread? Note that > I'm new to this list (2 days) so please be kind if this paper is > extremely well known (it's not known to me but it sounds like > something I need to read). > > -Gregg I think that they meant the NRC (National Research Council) report. It is at: <http://pwp.usa.pipeline.com/~jya/nrcindex.htm>.

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Re: Internet Drivers' Licenses
by dlv＠bwalk.dm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>From paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk Mon Sep 16 05:27:03 1996 Received: by bwalk.dm.com (1.65/waf) via UUCP; Mon, 16 Sep 96 07:19:42 EDT for dlv Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net by uu.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via SMTP; id AA14516 for dlv(a)bwalk.dm.com; Mon, 16 Sep 96 05:27:03 -0400 Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([(null)]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ak19721; 15 Sep 96 11:16 GMT Received: from fatmans.demon.co.uk ([158.152.120.223]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa23486; 15 Sep 96 11:02 BST Received: from fatmans.demon.co.uk by fatmans.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA842733091 ; Sat, 14 Sep 96 20:31:31 +0000 Comments: Authenticated sender is <paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk> From: paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk To: "Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM" <dlv(a)bwalk.dm.com> Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 20:31:31 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Internet Drivers' Licenses Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.31) Message-Id: <842781779.23486.0(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk> > mpd(a)netcom.com (Mike Duvos) writes: > > A given key could mean "I am Mike Duvos", "I am Tim May" > > Fart. How long is it going to take for you to grow up you trailer butt-fucker? Datacomms Technologies web authoring and data security Paul Bradley, Paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk Http://www.fatmans.demon.co.uk/crypt/ "Don`t forget to mount a scratch monkey" -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.3ia mQCNAjH9j+cAAAEEAMBvREiQR0ot9dFCO0TiSCSunAYLv2g1Bc6I3bz8FzKXNH53 6mieJf/W4rD+CxJpT0q9RQaaoRtkHJLwbjfK2il3D7mEahMAyqvF/xRJNqkXfhM3 sRJM0Jh43l+W0M5vwokbEbk25/bxWWGspTsLD3YHbzKnG6pOcL5OPIRbv66xAAUR tCdQYXVsIEJyYWRsZXkgPHBhdWxAZmF0bWFucy5kZW1vbi5jby51az6JAJUDBRAy NwfvNkCBjDT0xHEBATQPA/9TORmN/UjNecj03q4anpvdyCLiez5sKuNbnYK50RiP Jj4QpWWvST3smyQ0A86DrZY/re056MXwQmARESx0rFZxdnD0oORICl5r8dJLIy3b j8rbA5olXwZwKz73/X5s13v/pvHYX4cIsbVK8NHXqh5llSKt6TBAuGgkIGF29z5k C4kAlQMFEDI3B9mdtf/umVkv7QEBcRYD/1FBteLqsUmr81euxqqnnrpLlyHb58B/ 9sdATuua4uSjX46hXDZ264YozspNrzSB4NEdrmXOWVX3fiE0ga6XkSSkIeF23V90 En37Z0BdbFzgF00FRYTFyTq8eezQrdg/+rBPUsZUmG5wpq3e12FKHQsX01i+1mB2 YmqqwCV5e95eiQCVAgUQMh8uSb5OPIRbv66xAQEqJwP/fxQyiCasjFcbDpsFfsYp put5cCC/9pOx6X3DlbKShPMpUOS+A9HsTEmJQN8Iawv1nSwPdtc2cR/GhW6ilVjW LSloGdMVLabm9pGpZZMkRaZlXFUkOv7VhfgsUiL+vIDryBCAwUZCzQiWycjt/cPi mUqFH41Z7NkyO8ZFdi5GGX0= =CMZA -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

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Mobile IP URL typo
by John Gilmore 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> >locations. See http://www.ietf.org/html-charters/mobileip-charter.html, > >or search for "Mobile IP" in a web search engine. > That URL got 404-NotFound... s/-/. http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/mobileip-charter.html John

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