December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Internet Economics
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 02:22 PM 8/5/96 -0800, jim bell wrote: >The current question is how to motivate individuals and companies to invest >in improvements to the Internet that will benefit everyone. However, I don't >think that will be the limiting factor that it may currently appear to be. >Due to the nature of the Internet, there is nothing to prevent a company >(such as AOL, Compuserve, or other) from building a shadow version of the >Internet, through which all of its customer's traffic will pass until it >emerges local to its destination. Note that this is the business model for @HOME which will be handling the heavy lifting for various Internet Over Cable systems around the country. DCF

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Re: SSNs (was Re: Internal Passports)
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:59 PM 8/5/96 -0700, Jamie Zawinski wrote: >Well, it would be nice if it was that easy. You (legally) need to give >the correct one to anyone who has to make a report about you to the IRS, >right? Such as your employer. Virtually no one in the history of the world has done any time for giving a false SS#. Considering the fact that millions of Americans daily drive drunk, exceed the lawful speed limit, drift through stop signs without coming to a complete halt pick each other up in bars and do a host of other things that are much more likely to get them in trouble than making up an SS#, I am constantly *amazed* that people always advise you not to do so. If it's good enough for the President of Israel, it's good enough for anyone. >Is it >needed to get a driver's license? (The fine print on the DMV forms says >"yes".) But most DMVs don't check and the SS is still resisting verification services (at least until the Immigration Bill passes). >Is it necessary to make use of employer-sponsored medical >insurance? (I suspect that the answer to this one is "no", except for >the fact that when my employer set up my medical insurance they let the >insurance company use my SSN as my insurance-related-ID-number. But in >any event, my dentist told me, "if you don't give it to us, they won't >pay.") Just make sure you give the insurance company and the doctor the same number. >If you already have a SSN, can you get a *new* one in any legal way? >(Sort of the same idea as changing your phone number to avoid >telemarketing scum...) The SS resists issuing new numbers in spite of widespread duplication and theft. Soon people will find themselves denied the right to work in this country unless the SS reverses this reluctance. If your SS# is stolen and used "too many times" in a future worker verification program, you're screwed. And there won't even be any welfare for you. Use Alta Vista to find the SS Number FAQ. There's more stuff. DCF

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Re: SSNs (was Re: Internal Passports)
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 16:13 8/5/96, Mike Duvos wrote: >Jamie Zawinski wrote: > >> If you already have a SSN, can you get a *new* one in any legal way? >> (Sort of the same idea as changing your phone number to avoid >> telemarketing scum...) To prevent the blacklisting of labor leaders by SSN, the Social Security Act has a provision that allows you to request a new SSN. You have a right to get a new SSN issued. Don't expect your SS office to know anything about it. [disclaimer: I am not an attorney] -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred. Defeat the Demopublican Unity Party. Vote no on Clinton/Dole in November. Vote Harry Browne for President.

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Re: Public report of the EU crack.
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:12 AM 8/6/96, John C. Randolph wrote: >Well, well, well! > >So we gain a several allies in our battle against key-escrow, and >lo and behold, it's all the *other* governments who don't want >Uncle Sam to read their mail. > >I hope that any c'punks in foreign countries can make some politcal >hay with this: "Don't let the yankee imperialists tell us a goddamn thing >about crypto policy! They'll only use it to pull weasel moves in the >trade talks!" > >Actually, it might be a good thing for Her Majesty's government to >issue an advisory, saying not to buy US routers and encryption software, >because it can't be trusted, under present US ITAR rules. Agreed. The report was only surpising to me in that it appeared in print...anyone who read Bamford in '82 knew this sort of economic espionage was a major mission of the NSA and various private contractors. On the subject of routers and sniffers, excuse me if I'm misremembering things, but wasn't a certain anti-Mitnick hacker writing in one of his books about his role in developing certain "packet sniffers" that had properties desirable to the U.S. intelligence community? Perhaps the Brits are just being "monitored" by the Colonials? (If I sound paranoid, I just came from a showing of "Chain Reaction." Some flaws, but also some good reminders about the dangers of the "black budget," large listening posts in Virgina (and England and elsewhere), and a U.S. government that now sits astride the world.) --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Public report of the EU crack.
by John C. Randolph 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Well, well, well! So we gain a several allies in our battle against key-escrow, and lo and behold, it's all the *other* governments who don't want Uncle Sam to read their mail. I hope that any c'punks in foreign countries can make some politcal hay with this: "Don't let the yankee imperialists tell us a goddamn thing about crypto policy! They'll only use it to pull weasel moves in the trade talks!" Actually, it might be a good thing for Her Majesty's government to issue an advisory, saying not to buy US routers and encryption software, because it can't be trusted, under present US ITAR rules. -jcr

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NYtimes on " 'net telphony"
by Omegaman 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

An article I found on Internet Telephony today in the New York Times. reference: <http://www.nytimes.com/library/cyber/week/0805telephony.html> article also contained a diagram of a traditional Point-to-point synchronous phone call and a packet-switched Internet call which shoed pieces of a sentence being transferred over multiple routes. " _ Free Long Distance Phone Calls! (Computer Extra)_ By PETER H. LEWIS Sometimes Internet technology moves faster than the speed of sound. Nearly 400 Intel Corp. engineers were waiting for Brian Frank to stage a demonstration of Internet telephones last week at a business meeting in Oregon, when suddenly his laptop computer started ringing. Frank, a summer intern, had just finished loading new software that would let him place a phone call from his laptop to an associate's PC backstage. But before he could make the call, someone in Norway had seen Frank's network connection pop up on an Internet phone directory on the World Wide Web and dialed him up. " [..snip..] " For the Intel engineers, it was an industry wake-up call. Hitherto a hacker's hobby, the use of microphones and computers to place phone calls, send faxes and transmit pager signals over the Internet now seems ready to emerge as a serious business opportunity. " [..snip..] " Technical drawbacks still keep Internet telephony from being a true substitute for the good old, reliable telephone network. And yet, the number of regular Internet telephone users is expected to rise from fewer than 400,000 last year to 16 million by 1999, according to a forecast from the research company International Data Corp. By that year, IDC predicts, Internet telephony could constitute a $500 million market. Beyond cheap phone calls, the possible applications include: -- Catalogue shopping on the World Wide Web, where the customer could speak live with a sales agent. -- Work-team software that would enable groups working collaboratively on documents via the Internet to converse about the project, too. -- Adding voice capabilities to multiplayer computer games like "Doom" or "Quake," so that teammates could coach one another and jeer the opposition. " [..snip..] " In fact, Intel and Microsoft late last month jointly announced a set of technical standards that are intended to promote compatibility among various makes of hardware and software used in Internet telephony. " [..snip..] " "A lot of people look at Internet telephony as a replacement or alternative for long-distance service, and that's the most obvious use for it today," said Frederic H. Yeomans, marketing manager for Intel's Internet and communications group in Hillsboro, Ore. But Yeomans said the technology was advancing so quickly that new applications, possibly ones not yet imagined, would inevitably arise. " (hype? You make the call..) [..snip..] " Telephone companies appear to be divided over how to respond to the technological challenges. "Everyone would agree it's a compelling, alternative form of communication, and we're excited about it," said Mark Fisher, vice president for Pacific Bell Internet Services in San Francisco, a unit of the regional Bell holding company Pacific Telesis. " [..snip..] " Other, smaller phone companies are not as optimistic, and are mounting a legal and lobbying challenge to try to halt competition from the computer industry. " [..snip..] NYT-08-04-96 1932EDT Copyright 1996 The New York Times Company ... What follows is more hype about a "killer app" that will bring this technology to the forefront. Little is said about current bandwitdth limitations or PC technology limitations. Nothing is said of crypto technology either. me -------------------------------------------------------------- Omegaman <omega(a)bigeasy.com> PGP Key fingerprint = 6D 31 C3 00 77 8C D1 C2 59 0A 01 E3 AF 81 94 63 send a message with the text "get key" in the "Subject:" field to get a copy of my public key. --------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Stealth cookies
by jfricker＠vertexgroup.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Doubleclick was the company. They place banner ads on other pages that deliver a cookie header to your browser. Their trick is a script that delivers a cookie along with the graphic. Here's a sample from one of their own ads: Set-Cookie: IAF=x; path=/; expires=Wed, 09-Nov-99 23:59:00 GMT And right from the horses mouth: "DoubleClick has created the largest and most complete user and organization database on the Internet. DoubleClick is able to tell an incredible amount of information about a user, such as operating system, location, organization name, type, revenue, and size (click here for a more detailed description of target selection criteria). Along with sophisticated scheduling and our incredible DART software, DoubleClick is able to automatically and dynamically assign the best ad banner for a user." and "DoubleClick development ad banners are designed to capture more data about an individual or to attract potential advertisers, both of which ultimately benefit all DoubleClick Network member Web sites." Pomp and Puffery. But it makes the marketeers drool. As a user downloads more doubleclick banners, the cookie allows doubleclick to accumulate more crumbs in the form of url of the referring page. Just as traditional marketing demographics were founded on what magazines one subscribes, web advertising hopes to build demographics on what pages you view. Solution? 1) Don't put your name in the netscape configuration (d'oh) 2) make your cookie.txt file read only 3) use www.anonymizer.com when surfing Turning of "auto-load images" will not prevent the doubleclick cookie from being transmitted or recieved. aside note: there is a current cp archive at http://infinity.nus.sg/cypherpunks/ but it could use a local search tool. --j At 03:33 PM 8/5/96 -0500, you wrote: >There's been a thread here about some outfit that, by being referenced >from web documents here and there, would insert its cookie in your >browser even though you've never directly visited that site. I've >nuked any & all messages about that; if anybody recalls any details, >I'd be thankful for the information. > >______c_____________________________________________________________________ >Mike M Nally * Tiv^H^H^H IBM * Austin TX * For the time being, > m5(a)tivoli.com * m101(a)io.com * > <URL:http://www.io.com/~m101> * three heads and eight >arms. >

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Re: Internal Passports
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 1:28 AM 8/6/96, Ian Goldberg wrote: >So does anyone have any sort of "official" list as to what constitutes >"government-issued photo-id"? I'll be flying within California soon >(see you at Crypto...), as as a "furriner", I have no US ID. I do have >photo-id issued by _another_ government, though (a health card; I wonder >if they'll have heard of that...). > > - Ian "I'd try to be sure to get to the airport early, but the plane > leaves at some ridiculous time like 7:30am" As I recall, Ian, you are some kind of Damned Foreigner, a Canadian, and possibly a Jew (from a name like "Goldberg"). As such, your Canuck documents are worthless in these Beknighted States (at least until the memory of the single person killed in Atlanta fades...Atlantans are worth the lives of 100 lives of Third Worlders, which is why the single death in Atlanta justifies this crackdown). Perhaps if you coverted to either Southern Baptist or Mormon your stay here would be easier..... --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Ballistics
by JonWienk＠ix.netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Sun, 04 Aug 96, dlv(a)bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM) wrote: >Is there truth to the rumor that poking a file inside the barrel will >alter the marks on future test firings? A much better idea is to clean the barrel with a stiff wire brush. If you blue the inside of the barrel, and then brush the bluing off, that is enough. Alternatively/additionally, fire several hundred rounds with the weapon. Either will change the microscopic pattern of grooves sufficiently to cause a mismatch. Poking a file around in the barrel is a good way to ruin a gun. Changing barrels is a good idea as well. I can change the barrel on my Desert Eagle in about 15 seconds. A better idea yet is to fabricate a removable silencer (that can be attached/detached without modifying the barrel) with a wire brush surrounding the muzzle opening (similar to a batery terminal cleaner, but sturdier, of course) so that the bristles put their own marks on the bullet as it leaves the barrel. Even if the silencer is found, you will never be able to put it on aligned exactly the same way, and the marks will not line up exactly. Alternatively, you could mount the bristles on a bearing so they can rotate freely, so the patterns of marks constantly change as the brush rotates. Of course, getting caught with a silencer is a good way to go directly to jail without passing GO. Of course, if you are serious about avoiding this kind of hassle, you will mount a bag to the receiver of your gun to catch the fired shells, so that they aren't lying around for curious people to find. Jonathan Wienke "1935 will go down in history! For the first time a civilized nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead in the future!" --Adolf Hitler "46. The U.S. government declares a ban on the possession, sale, transportation, and transfer of all non-sporting firearms. ...Consider the following statement: I would fire upon U.S. citizens who refuse or resist confiscation of firearms banned by the U.S. government." --The 29 Palms Combat Arms Survey http://www.ksfo560.com/Personalities/Palms.htm 1935 Germany = 1996 U.S.? Key fingerprint = 30 F9 85 7F D2 75 4B C6 BC 79 87 3D 99 21 50 CB

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Re: Cookies on Microsoft Explorer?
by David.K.Merriman.-.webmaster＠cygnus.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com, aeisenb(a)duke.poly.edu Date: Tue Aug 06 10:30:17 1996 > > Does anyone know what the equivalent technology is on Microsoft to > Netscape's cookie technology? Does Microsoft have support for cookies > or > not? > > All of the discussion on the list to do with > cookies is related to Netscape. Does this mean that if one switches to > Microsoft Explorer one can avoid the problem? Many thanks. > > Anne Eisenberg > aeisenb(a)duke.poly.edu > > My MSIE3.0b2 does cookies - tho' I've told it to ask me if it's OK first :-) I've even got a specific _sub-directory_ for cookies under my Windows dir. I just wish I could automate the refuse-it-if-it-doesn't-expire "policy" I'm running under. Dave Merriman - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- PGP Email welcome and encouraged. Visit my web site at http://www.shellback.com/p/merriman for my PGP key and fingerprint "What is the sound of one hand clapping in a forest with no one there to hear it?" - -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAi3uZ2MAAAEEALWQtxX77SZSaFls6cVbPp+fZS4MNyKK3ZFYQo0qWyj+0tMq YgRTPRJRaCQixo63RttknogfPp514qdVMZw5iPeOXmD+RxrmTTwlbGqA7QUiG1x5 LG2Zims5zk4U6/rt8hwLh0/8E4lIb9r5d31qc8L1A9Twk/cmN8VrTvyYOzAZAAUR tClEYXZpZCBLLiBNZXJyaW1hbiA8bWVycmltYW5AbWV0cm9uZXQuY29tPokAlQMF EC6sAl+SAziJlog3BQEBxX8D/05ub986Io1PaGJgDtVlbMOPh2pjdB3QSpA8T7bh ngpsTbogz7LnFY6nLTH24dVswnzRGzX2XYN2FXQzYLEKpbuJPF85620EqEJt7eck kDSr0MdCorCZ3ntHGlaRIEOG8En7r/NUxtPJSbeANHyKV0pZTJ0ZF3p71yAZoCU1 JJWoiQCVAwUQLqcRtKljmJBIq8VdAQFFCQQAidBWF05UfZ3HdLTZ2BjhkiztbHIL fCMVAzMkNobRLH0jcQ+o4N9Ny7gAP2bHreadCYQAiyx24LWZaWB+LkG48vVXvSa1 Zv+ksrEp19U30jReTaDHMRg2IDQ0S7T/+YykWf4cx/L4x0ll55zfT29THWHVqpeA 4w0PnSBJubMsG6iJAJUCBRAt7mhNxWtO/Jg7MBkBAWyPA/9BYsA3G33jcg1SfuxC Fh4yMVZCBrvgK2FBJZUdxkgR1WfVYe5/GzV3jRzJxuXGdt0yzFb8HsocRUvnA4vi O6Jngza+seuc+dNC8X1LyyuW0rkogVZE6ds/v4qI2P+uticCh8xBLp7ieAjvGIcc tdQnXrMxF+w6V80cSy/dqxJjtg== =WVf6 - -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMgauP8VrTvyYOzAZAQH6sQP/U8kaDIUG1VrPqqaLaXLfvS0M3bpk8fq+ YUjVEbg94qTXZeCuw+D7dKbVOtX0WiFFcvqsrTtHfZPWZQ8uHPkgAX0EHpoPoOR4 Dx44XoZrHm/fYlQV7GJh5bxB4qrRg7a4ciJ9lSHfs1tCERy6U5R687rhizS3kJYm SOR3MBilsTE= =OawJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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