December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: (X:x)e$ 's other use
by frantz＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 1:31 PM 3/23/96 -0800, Bill Stewart wrote: >Method 3 you'll recognize. There'd be nothing wrong with the Federal >Reserve if they only used methods 1 and 2; individual consumers can >decide whether to trust them not to print a lot more zeros than they should. >And they don't have a monopoly on currency - there are some kinds of >taxes that apply to some private currencies, but you can go into the >average bank today, ask them to write a cashier's check to someone >(and probably still to "bearer"), pay them, and they'll be happy to do it >for only a small commission, and American Express will do it as well. >And people will take their paper, though in the case of traveller's checks >it's sometimes a hassle to accept on an occasional basis. My experience in China in 1993 was that US Federal Reserve Notes were easy to use and American Express Traveler's checks were not. After hearing that the dollar isn't worth anything, it was refreshing to go to a country where they are in high demand. I recommend carrying good old fashioned USA dollars when going to communist countries. Bill ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bill Frantz | The CDA means | Periwinkle -- Computer Consulting (408)356-8506 | lost jobs and | 16345 Englewood Ave. frantz(a)netcom.com | dead teenagers | Los Gatos, CA 95032, USA

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Re: protection on IoMega ZIP drives
by Robert A. Rosenberg 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 2:45 3/23/96, Alan Olsen wrote: >The big problem is with the zip drivers. There is some sort of >incompatibility between SFS and the zip drivers. (I hacked on it for a >couple of hours with no luck.) Win95 makes the problem worse, as it is >difficult to judge just when the driver for the zip drive loads. (I have a >number of complaints about the zip drive drivers. Lack of documentation is >one of them...) I can state that with a Zip Disk formatted for Macintosh use (and the drive plugged into a Macintosh), the drive and disk are seen by the Macintosh as a NORMAL SCSI HD and eligible for use as a Boot Drive (ie: There is a Mac Driver on the Disk in a SCSI Driver Partition). I've Booted from a ZIP Disk so this is actual not just theoretical <g>. I'd assume that if a Wintel Machine had the Microcode to be able to boot off an external SCSI Drive (something I do not know is normal for Wintel machines as it is normal for Macintosh ones) the same situation would exist for Wintel Zip Formatted Disks. All NORMAL SCSI HDs (or Cartridges) have their driver in a Driver Partition so the HD/Cartridge can be read.

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Re: New Beta Test of PGPfone available WINDOWS '95 Included!
by jis＠mit.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

(A copy of this message has also been posted to the following newsgroups: alt.security.pgp, sci.crypt) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I have received reports that some people are getting only partial files when downloading PGP and PGPfone with our new distribution server. This problem is caused by higher then normal packet loss on the Internet. Some browsers (notably the AOL browser) give up when they fail to receive any more data for a period of time (caused by high losses or other conditions that block our server). For now people should continue to attempt to download PGPfone and PGP until they get a good copy. Trying late at or on weekends when the net load is lower may help. I am working on a "fix" where our server will let the browser know up front (there is a way to do that with http) how large an item to expect. This hopefully will improve the situation, if not complete fix it. However this change will not be installed until at least Tuesday. So if you can wait, you might want to wait until Tuesday if you are having difficulties getting a complete distribution from MIT. Note: I will send out another message when this fix is in place. -Jeff -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMVVrMMUtR20Nv5BtAQEQ3gP/XjwEPbqSJXJesRYo+N4aAcMfl3O2PGoP LP/uGOOLCyx05EXkJidGly4IjY/qK325J8xDADCpJdoJgcM3CH+7EPghxAEmCIRd MttmADDv6U3QHnvPn7/L2mDtItueOCLsdeWtj7bQnRECoS/XsdQAUgZFbLlWsNhd uFm3bVG82LI= =m3v8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Crypto CD
by Ben Holiday 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I'm considering the idea of cutting a crypto CD, and wanted to see if there was any potential interest in the idea, or not. Basically what i forsee is a disk with the basic algorithms (DES/IDEA/Etc), and steg tools, along with a few large crypto aps like PGP, and basic cracking software (Crypt Breakers Work Bench, XOR-type crackers, and dictionary attacks with a few dozen dictionaries). I'd also like to include a remail directory with some remailer sources, remailer-aware clients, and the mixmaster sources. And of course as much infomation as possible -- cyphernomicon preferably, possibly even archives of this list.. I would plan to put unix/dos/mac all on one CD. I'm thinking that realistically I can expect 50 megs or so. Possibly as much as 100 if I find a TON of wonderful text. Could be useful to individuals, as well as for groups wishing to create FTP sites etc. Pricing with shipping would wind up around US$20.00, give or take 5 dollars.. I'd like to know first off whether such a thing already exists. Secondly whether anyone would be interested in possesing such a thing. And lastly any suggestions for/about content that I may have missed.. Thanks Benji

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Re: Crypto CD
by Vipul Ved Prakash 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Could be useful to individuals, as well as for groups wishing to create > FTP sites etc. Excellent Idea. At least I haven't seen one around. > Pricing with shipping would wind up around US$20.00, give or take 5 dollars.. > I'd like to know first off whether such a thing already exists. Secondly > whether anyone would be interested in possesing such a thing. And lastly > any suggestions for/about content that I may have missed.. How about PGP key archives? Vipul .od8888bo. \|/ .d%::::88::888b. (@ @) .d888::::::::8:888%. ------------------oOO-(_)-OOo----------------- 88888:::::::88888::%. You walk across with your flowers in your hand d888888:::88;888888::b Trying to tell me no one understands 888888888:888888888888 Trade in your hours for a hand full of dimes Y8888888::::::888888%P Gonna make it baby in our prime. '8888888:::::::8888:%' ---------------------------------------------- '88888888:::888888%' Vipul Ved Prakash Fax : +91-11-3328849 '8888888::88888%' Positive Ideas. Internet : vipul(a)pobox.com '"Y88%B8P"' ---------------------------------------------- PGP Key : Finger <vipul(a)pobox.com> PGP Key fingerprint = 35 FF A2 CA BD 6B 80 82 61 30 F2 23 96 93 77 E4 ~-=~-=~-=~-=~-=~-=~-=~-=~-=~-=~-=~-=~-=~-=~-=~-=~-=~-=~-=~-=~-=~-=~-=~-=

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RE: If you can't take the heat... (Was Re: Keep the pressure!)
by blanc 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: Timothy C. May And I think the anonymity issue is interesting. In the past, Detweiler railed against the uses of anonymity while himself being the single most prolific user of anonymous insults and the like, so it's an interesting pathology to study. ....................................................................................... Just wanted to mention that the reason Detweiler used anonymity was as a counter-example of why he opposed the use of it. He wanted to impress upon the cpunks the points he was making against anonymity by using it in the ways which he warned could become a problem. As he said in his recent post "detweiling", he aimed his efforts against those whom he considered the "big egos" - i.e., the ones who disagreed with him on his prognosis for the future. .. Blanc

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Re: protection on IoMega ZIP drives
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 02:47 AM 3/24/96 -0500, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: >At 2:45 3/23/96, Alan Olsen wrote: > >>The big problem is with the zip drivers. There is some sort of >>incompatibility between SFS and the zip drivers. [snip] >I can state that with a Zip Disk formatted for Macintosh use (and the drive >plugged into a Macintosh), the drive and disk are seen by the Macintosh as >a NORMAL SCSI HD and eligible for use as a Boot Drive (ie: There is a Mac >Driver on the Disk in a SCSI Driver Partition). I've Booted from a ZIP Disk >so this is actual not just theoretical <g>. I'd assume that if a Wintel >Machine had the Microcode to be able to boot off an external SCSI Drive >(something I do not know is normal for Wintel machines as it is normal for >Macintosh ones) the same situation would exist for Wintel Zip Formatted >Disks. All NORMAL SCSI HDs (or Cartridges) have their driver in a Driver >Partition so the HD/Cartridge can be read. The SCSI Zip drives do act as normal SCSI drives (though they have a limited number of SCSI ids available. (5 & 6 if I remember correctly.) Later drives may have this changed.) The problems i am encountering are due to the _parellel_ version of the Zip drive. (I bought it because I needed to be able to visit customer sites and not all of them have SCSI.) The drivers fake a scsi port. (Some laptops use a similar driver to attach hard drives to non-scsi systems.) Maybe I will just get a Jaz drive and not worry about it... --- Alan Olsen -- alano(a)teleport.com -- Contract Web Design & Instruction `finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key http://www.teleport.com/~alano/ "We had to destroy the Internet in order to save it." - Sen. Exon

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Re: NT's C2 rating
by frantz＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 5:11 PM 3/22/96 -0600, Rick Smith wrote: >The big deal is that few vendors have tried to get NCSC evaluations. We walked KeyKOS a long way down the path to a B2 rating. Our investors refused to fund the estimated $1 million it would cost to do all the paperwork. They felt there was no market for NCSC secure systems. Perhaps others felt the same way. Regards - Bill ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bill Frantz | The CDA means | Periwinkle -- Computer Consulting (408)356-8506 | lost jobs and | 16345 Englewood Ave. frantz(a)netcom.com | dead teenagers | Los Gatos, CA 95032, USA

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Re: Free speech debate on MSN Encarta
by jpb＠miamisci.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 8:57 PM 3/23/96, Mark M. wrote: On Sat, 23 Mar 1996, I wrote: >> However, I don't think it likely that many ISPs will go this route from a >> liability point of view - if some parent is paying them to filter out smut, >> and little Zippy finds a brand new x-rated site, chances are some irate >> parent will sue them. With the proliferation of new pages, it is >> impossible for anyone to keep up, unless the authors voluntarily include >> some smutscan codes in their pages. > >Couldn't the proxy be configured to deny access to all "unrated" pages? Yes. The same filter software that Exonizes the language could also replace the whole html body with "Access Denied" if the ratings codes aren't present. >Of course, this would mean that some kind of standardized web page rating >system be devised; however, I think there are already several proposals for >rating schemes. BTW, does anyone know how such a proxy system could be >used in all Internet traffic, not just the web. It is not very difficult >to get a gopher client or telnet client to communicate with a web server, >bypassing any access restrictions. CERN will already proxy gopher & ftp as well as http. There is another package, delegate, that will proxy nntp & telnet. However, the main problem with using proxies as a censorship tool is that nothing prevents the client software from just not using the proxy. By the time Zippy is old enough to care about hunting down smut/bomb designs/drug formulae, Zippy is a lot more likely to know how to do this than the parental units, in a manner undetectable by the parent (invisible System Folder/Windows directories with unsanitized browser prefs files comes immediately to mind - now that 1GB drives are common, it isn't too difficult to hide them) >ObCrypto: The next step would be a rating system using digital signatures >and the proxy software being setup to trust certain signatures more than >others. I agree, if you're going to bother with rating pages, digitally signing the signature so that terrorist X can't just copy the "Good Clean Fun" rating code into his Phosgene formula page is the only rational solution. Gotta love that overhead, though. Joseph Block <jpb(a)miamisci.org> "We can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans ..." -- Bill Clinton (USA TODAY, 11 March 1993, page 2A) PGP 2048bit-Fingerprint: F8 A2 A5 15 56 42 9B 16 3F BD 57 0F 8A ED E3 21 No man's life, liberty or property are safe while the legislature is in session.

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Re: protection on IoMega ZIP drives
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:55 PM 3/24/96 -0800, Alan Olsen <alano(a)teleport.com> wrote: >The SCSI Zip drives do act as normal SCSI drives (though they have a limited >number of SCSI ids available. (5 & 6 if I remember correctly.) Later drives >may have this changed.) >The problems i am encountering are due to the _parellel_ version of the Zip >drive. (I bought it because I needed to be able to visit customer sites and >not all of them have SCSI.) The drivers fake a scsi port. (Some laptops >use a similar driver to attach hard drives to non-scsi systems.) Hmmm - I've got the Syquest parallel-port drive. Syquest offers SCSI and IDE flavors of their drive - and the parallel port version emulates IDE (don't know if it's EIDE or vanilla IDE...) #-- # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com, +1-415-442-2215 pager 408-787-1281 # "At year's end, however, new government limits on Internet access threatened # to halt the growth of Internet use. [...] Government control of news media # generally continues to depend on self-censorship to regulate political and # social content, but the authorities also consistently penalize those who # exceed the permissible." - US government statement on China... "SigFiles of Unusual Size? I don't believe they exist!"

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