December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Media: FV story makes ClariNet
by Joseph M. Reagle Jr. 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA, U.S.A., 1996 FEB 7 (NB) -- First Virtual Holdings, >a company offering an Internet commerce system, has demonstrated a >program which, it says, makes all existing software systems that >encrypt credit card numbers and transmit them over the Internet >vulnerable to security breaches. ... _______________________ Regards, Talent develops in tranquillity, character in the full current of human life. -Goethe Joseph Reagle http://farnsworth.mit.edu/~reagle/home.html reagle(a)mit.edu 0C 69 D4 E8 F2 70 24 33 B4 5E 5E EC 35 E6 FB 88

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Re: Assassination Politics--isn't it gambling?
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- At 10:05 AM 2/8/96 -0500, Brian Davis wrote: >On Wed, 7 Feb 1996, jim bell wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> >> At 06:00 PM 2/6/96 PST, banelaw(a)med.com wrote: >> >Jim: as to "Assassination Politics." Isn't the structure you describe >> >gambling? Placing money on a prediction, with the correct predictor >> >winning? >> >> I guess that depends on the laws, doesn't it? <G> Seriously, though, since >> all the participants are anonymous, and it can all be done from overseas... >> >> Somehow, though, I think politicians will take little solace from knowing >> that they are protected from death only by laws against gambling. > >Yeah, those silly homicide laws don't apply if there is a bet on the line. Don't tell me; let me guess: You haven't read the essay, and you're not a lawyer, right? >> > And if so, isn't it illegal if done over the wires, i.e., federal >> >commerce? I'm not looking for a way to declare your scheme illegal, I'm >> >just pointing out that there are other angles, especially if done over the >> >wires. >> >> I'd sure like to read a serious legal analysis of all this. Maybe all the >> lawyers are too terrified to respond. >> >Wire fraud would be the least of your worries. Try conspiracy to commit >murder. Don't tell me, let me guess: You haven't read the essay, and you're not a lawyer, right? I've been posting this for months on various areas of FIDOnet, USENET, and now here. I have never seen a lawyer seriously attempt to refute my analysis. If you really WERE a lawyer, and had read what I wrote, you would have been able to be FAR more detailed in your reasoning. > >> jimbell(a)pacifier.com >> >> Klaatu Burada Nikto >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I know I should know it, but can't place it. Help >anybody? > >EBD 1950(1) SF movie called "The Day the Earth Stood Still." (This was the phrase Klaatu asked the woman to convey to Gort, his faithful (and indestructible and invincible) robot, in order to summon help.) Anyway, the relevance of all this will become clear, eventually. The reason? "Something is going to happen. Something... Wonderful!" (2010) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMRo73PqHVDBboB2dAQEUxwP/XVd9YfCX1y5bblh9SwYQVXHzYvXEv/1H dO2TAHrPFpde+nbp0IQ04YN9IA88hd8qQEZhdZl8MlPTeXjW3Qbv+seYq4RGyfR+ PjnxOHU2QVFHatXLeLVhteCFbquLEf6pg3NusV8h67lfthIejPEV56ZnBMGOzJKh CG1siobI6oY= =RPdT -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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PRIVACY: Shared Databases
by James M. Cobb 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Friend, 02 08 95 Bloomberg newsstory datelined Chicago, headlined AMERITECH, BELL ATLANTIC AGREE TO SHARE CALLER ID DATABASES reports: In December, the Federal Communications Commission mandated that caller ID should be available nationwide and that long- distance companies must carry a caller's name, as well as the number. But... Long-distance companies, which will now be able to compete for customers with the Baby Bells, have dragged their feet, and did- n't carry the names.... Which means: ...it will be up to local phone companies to form alliances.... The latest example: Ameritech Corp. and Bell Atlantic Corp. said they will swap cus- tomer data bases to better carry caller ID calls between their regions. Back in December Ameritech ...signed a similar agreement with U S West.... And generally, ...local phone companies [must] form alliances like the one be- tween Ameritech and Bell Atlantic to offer nationwide caller ID. For OUR eyes only! Cordially, Jim NOTE. The newsstory's www.nando.net online filename: info12_24399.html This critical essay was composed 02 08 96.

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Mailing list
by JOHN MARTIN LEWARS 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hey hey, Please make me apart of your mailing list. Thanks, jack

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COPYRIGHT: Skeleton Bill
by James M. Cobb 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Friend, 02 08 96 Associated Press newsstory datelined Washington, headlined COPYRIGHT VIOLATORS SHOULD FACE CRIMINAL PENALTIES reports: The House Judiciary Committee's panel on courts and intellectual property is considering legislation...to clarify copyright law for electronic information. Panel = subcommittee. Its chairman is Carlos Moorhead, R-CA. He says the legislation [is] a "skeleton bill" which "We want to make sure we get...into law this session." The skeleton of the skeleton law = "recommendations by the Clinton ad- ministration." Moorehead also says: " We don't want to put so much meat on the skeleton that it dies of obesity." Testifying before the subcommitte were the Motion Picture Association of America's Valenti and Broadcast Music Inc's Preston who "agreed that the legislation should be passed quickly." Preston and Valenti rejected a proposal by Rep. Rick Boucher, D-Va., to exempt on-line service providers from copyright infringement liability.... So there goes cheap access to the 'Net. That's what "We don't want to put so much meat on the skeleton that it dies of obesity" MEANS! Cordially, Jim NOTE. The newsstory's www.nando.net online filename is: info7_24355.html This critical essay was composed 02 08 96.

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Degrees of Freedom
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

V-CHIP CONTENT WARNING: THIS POST IS RATED: R, V, NPC, RI, S, I13. [For processing by the required-by-1998 V-chips, those reading this post from an archive must set their V-chip to "42-0666." I will not be held responsible for posts incorrectly filtered-out by a V-chip that has been by-passed, hot-chipped, or incorrectly programmed.] ***WARNING!*** It has become necessary to warn potential readers of my messages before they proceed further. This warning may not fully protect me against criminal or civil proceedings, but it may be treated as a positive attempt to obey the various and increasing numbers of laws. * Under the ***TELECOM ACT OF 1996***, minor CHILDREN (under the age of 18) may not read or handle this message under any circumstances. If you are under 18, delete this message NOW. Also, if you are developmentally disabled, irony-impaired, emotionally traumatized, schizophrenic, suffering PMS, affected by Humor Deprivation Syndrom (HDS), or under the care of a doctor, then the TELECOM ACT OF 1996 may apply to you as well, even if you are 18. If you fall into one of these categories and are not considered competent to judge for yourself what you are reading, DELETE this message NOW. * Under the UTAH PROTECTION OF CHILDREN ACT OF 1996, those under the age of 21 may not read this post. All residents of Utah, and Mormons elsewhere, must install the M-Chip. * Under the PROTECTION OF THE REICH laws, residents of Germany may not read this post. * Under the MERCIFUL SHIELD OF ALLAH (Praise be to Him!) holy interpretations of the Koran of the following countries (but not limited to this list) you may not read this post if you are a FEMALE OF ANY AGE: Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Egypt, Jordan, Sudan, Libya, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Algeria, Lebanon, Morocco, Tunisia, Yemen, Oman, Syria, Bahrain, and the Palestinian Authority. Non-female persons may also be barred from reading this post, depending on the settings of your I-Chip. * Under the proposed CHINESE INTERNET laws, covering The People's Republic of China, Formosa, Hong Kong, Macao, Malaysia, and parts of several surrrounding territories, the rules are so nebulous and unspecified that I cannot say whether you are allowed to read this. Thus, you must SUBMIT any post you wish to read to your local authorities for further filtering. * In Singapore, merely be RECEIVING this post you have violated the will of Lee Kwan Yu. Report to your local police office to receive your caning. * Finally, if you are barrred from contact with the Internet, or protected by court order from being disturbed by thoughts which may disturb you, or covered by protective orders, it is up to you to adjust the settings of your V-Chip to ensure that my post does not reach you. *** THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE IN COMPLYING WITH THESE LAWS *** At 5:27 PM 2/8/96, Alex Strasheim wrote: >A split between a Western net and a Chineese net would have important >political, cultural, and economic reprecussions; it could be the >cyberspatial version of the old iron curtain, with information policy >rather than economic policy as a dividing line. Given the massive number of "degrees of freedom" compared to earlier days when the Iron Curtain "sort of" worked, albeit with lots of leaks, I see little chance it can be pulled off. The Chinese want a Bamboo Curtain, the Muslims want a Veiled Curtain, the Jews want a Wailing Wall, and the Germans wanted barbed wire. It ain't gonna work. >We ought to speak out against this Chineese net, and start asking >questions about Western companies that are collaborating in its >construction. The usual suspects: SAIC, Wackenhut, NewsCorp, etc. --Tim May [This Bible excerpt awaiting review under the Communications Decency Act] And then Lot said, "I have some mighty fine young virgin daughters. Why don't you boys just come on in and do em right here in my house - I'll just watch!"....Later, up in the mountains, the younger daughter said. "Dad's getting old. I say we should do him." So the two daughters got him drunk and did him all that night. Sure enough, Dad got em pregnant....Onan really hated the idea of doing his brother's wife and getting her pregnant while his brother got all the credit, so he whacked off first....Remember, it's not a good idea to have sex with your sister, your brother, your parents, your pet dog, or the farm animals. [excerpts from the Old Testament, Modern Vernacular Translation, TCM, 1996]

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Re: Report available: "Minimal Key Lengths for Symmetric Ciphers"
by Karl A. Siil 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:28 AM 2/8/96 -0500, anonymous(a)freezone.remailer wrote: >I downloaded this so-called "report". It doesn't even mentions PGP. >Gotta wonder why the 007 wannabe "experts" and the Big Business (BSA) >want you to only use 90 bits for your keys and why they've never heard >of PGP... > >Anyone who listens to crypto advice from people who's purpose in life >is to listen to *YOU* gets what they deserve. I'll stay with PGP which >has a 2048 bit key. Ummm, apples and oranges. The report focused on symmetric-key algorithms. Also, the recommendation was for a *minimum* of 90 bits. I'm sure the authors would be ecstatic to see *128-bit* (not 2048) IDEA like PGP (or does PGP encrypt with RSA, too? I thought it only used RSA for signing. I admit it. I don't know). The purpose of the report was not "90 bits is good." It was "40 bits is *really* bad." Karl

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RSA-China Cypto-Porn Distribution ?
by A. Padgett Peterson, P.E. Information Security 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Wall Street Journal, February 8, 1996, p. A10. > China, U.S. Firm Challenge U.S. On Encryption-Software Exports > By Don Clark >RSA Data Security Inc., the dominant supplier of >data-privacy software, announced an unusual partnership >with the Chinese government that exploits loopholes in U.S. >export restrictions on codemaking technology. And the logical next step would be that the Chinese crypto would be adopted by all those wishing to distribute filty, indecent, pornographic materials depicting the sexual and excretory organs of various mammals (watch out Shamu - the law said nothing about human organs) to show a "good faith" effort to protect America's yout. Warmly, Padgett "Life will find a way". Ian - _Jurrasic Park_

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FEE DEADLINE: IMC Resolving Security Complexity Workshop
by Dave Crocker 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Friday is the dealine for the lower registration fee to the workshop. While the differential is small, the real concern is that we have a reasonable estimate of the number of attendees. If you plan to attend and have not yet sent an indication, please do so. Resolving Email Security Complexity Workshop 21 February 1996 * 8:30 AM - 5:00 PM San Jose (CA) Hilton & Towers * San Carlos Room (next to Convention Center) Pre-registration & payment: $50 * After February 16: $75 (cash, check, wire transfer, money order, or First Virtual) To register for the meeting: Web: <http://www.imc.org/workshop-registration> Email: <mailto:workshop-registration@imc.org> For discussion before and after the meeting: Web: <http://www.imc.org/workshop/> Email: <mailto:resolving-security-request@imc.org>

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Re: Degrees of Freedom
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 7:33 PM 2/8/96, Alex Strasheim wrote: >The headers I clipped off of Tim's post might not be as farfetched as >they seem at first. What if they built a central storehouse of technical >information that's accessible to all, transactional systems that >facilitate international trade between member states, and left cultural >and political content to the tyrants of the respective nations? >Everyone's can grab mechanical engineering info, and evryone can buy >shoes from China, but Islamic users will have to rely on Islamic sources >for world news and political commentary. Differences in human languages >are going to make the tyrants' job a lot easier -- how many Chineese >speak Arabic? Not many Chinese speak Arabic, proportionately, but English is far and away the most common _second_ language. This has been a major key to the success of the Internet. The implications are pretty clear. I'm skeptical about the technological feasibility of the "central storehouse" model, for reasons technological as well as sociocultural. >I don't disagree that eventually such a plan will fail. But centrally >planned economies competing with market driven ones will eventually fail >as well, and that didn't stop communism from casting a long dark shadow >over the second half of the century. Is a laissez-faire response based on >an extremely promising but still untested analysis (ie., crypto anarchy) >prudent? Sure, give it a try and see what happens. People die every day, of all sorts of things. Every decision we make affects the timelines of others, causing some to live that would have been on a plane that crashes, causing others to accept jobs that ultimately result in their deaths, etc. I learned a long time ago not to lose any sleep over the "potential" bad effects that ideas can have. --Tim [This Bible excerpt awaiting review under the Communications Decency Act] And then Lot said, "I have some mighty fine young virgin daughters. Why don't you boys just come on in and do em right here in my house - I'll just watch!"....Later, up in the mountains, the younger daughter said. "Dad's getting old. I say we should do him." So the two daughters got him drunk and did him all that night. Sure enough, Dad got em pregnant....Onan really hated the idea of doing his brother's wife and getting her pregnant while his brother got all the credit, so he whacked off first....Remember, it's not a good idea to have sex with your sister, your brother, your parents, your pet dog, or the farm animals. [excerpts from the Old Testament, Modern Vernacular Translation, TCM, 1996]

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