December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

PTO_lop
by jya＠pipeline.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

5-10-96. WaPo: "Copyright Comes to the Internet. IBM's 'Cryptolope' Technology Collects the Fees." Describes IBM's InfoMarket system for secure electronic payments and copyright protection through use of keys to gain access to documents. PTO_lop ----- Note: Pipeline is suffering "technological" growing pains at PSI's VA switches, so they say (or maybe plummeting stock and insider dumps): incoming and outgoing mail oft delayed up to 24+.

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Re: Remailer in a box
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 08:25 PM 5/9/96 EDT, E. ALLEN SMITH wrote: > Thanks. > Incidentally, one thing that I noticed in your listing of services >was email to fax. In some circumstances (such as anonymous accounts), the other >way around would be useful. Even for a non-anonymous account, there have been >times when I've wished I could give someone a FAX number and have it emailed. Already online in NYC, London, etc. See http://www.jfax.co.uk/. Faxes are forwarded via Mime. Cheap. Also someone else offering fax and voicemail over the web in Atlanta but I lost that URL. Others should follow. DCF

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The National Research Council Study of National...
by CRYPTO 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Subject: The National Research Council Study of National Cryptography Policy Please post this message widely I am writing to let interested parties know about the imminent release of the NRC's study of national cryptography policy. If all goes well, we hope to release it on May 30, 1996. However, prior to that time, we won't be able to comment on its contents. For current information on release, visit the web site http://www2.nas.edu/cstbweb/220a.html When you visit that site, you'll have the opportunity to be put onto a mailing list so that we can inform you by e-mail when the report is available in print and/or electronically, as well as any public events associated with the report (e.g., public briefings). Herb Lin Cryptography Policy Study Director Computer Science and Telecommunications Board National Academy of Sciences/National Research Council 202-334-2605

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REF_orm
by jya＠pipeline.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

5-10-96. WaPo: "House Panel Approves Intelligence Reforms." Reports on the House intelligence committee's differences with the Senate and White House reforms. Also, it reports on Freeh's testimony yesterday at a hearing about the need for new federal laws to protect against economic espionage. He cites spying by 23 foreign governments and methods used. REF_orm ----- Note: Pipeline is suffering "technological" growing pains at PSI's VA switches, so they say (or maybe plummeting stock and insider dumps): incoming and outgoing mail oft delayed up to 24+.

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Re: remailer@utopia.hacktic.nl down
by Jim Byrd 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 07:15 PM 5/9/96 -0700, qut(a)netcom.com (Dave Harman) wrote: > >Oh, in what way was Elrom racist? (he's not anti-asian or anti-semitic, >for instance) > One famous comment of L. Ron Hubbard was that blacks were too stupid to move the needle on the e-meter. Another comment was that the problem with China is that there are too many "chinks" in it. All this, and much more, is documented in "A Piece of Blue Sky" by John Atack (and in other places).

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Edited Edupage, 9 May 1996
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: IN%"educom(a)elanor.oit.unc.edu" 9-MAY-1996 22:01:14.77 >REGIONAL BELLS WANT RATE HIKES FOR WIRING SCHOOLS >The United States Telephone Association would like to raise the average U.S. >monthly phone bill by about $10 over the next five years to pay for wiring >schools and libraries with new lines for phones and computers, and to >subsidize poor and rural customers. The proposal assumes an $11 billion >cost for wiring schools and libraries, with local phone companies paying >about a third to a half of that. The rest would come from a surcharge on >other services, such as cellular. "No single industry should be held >responsible for fulfilling this major goal," says USTA's president. "Each >has a role and should make a significant contribution to the national >education technology mandate." (Investor's Business Daily 8 May 96 A7) The "subsidize poor and rural customers" line makes me glad I don't have a phone line. >ALLIANCE SEEKS ELECTRONIC SECURITY >An alliance of software companies has established the Electronic Licensing >and Security Initiative to develop a system that uses electronic tokens >linked to a software package to securely track software rentals, licenses >and purchases. The group also plans to develop an electronic clearinghouse >to provide and track licenses. Several major software producers, including >Microsoft, IBM and AT&T have said they will support the Initiative's >technology. (Wall Street Journal 6 May 96 B6) Anyone know how this is supposed to work? It sounds like a non-anonymous digital cash system, in essence. >IBM'S INFOMARKET TOLL BOOTH >IBM has persuaded some 30 companies, including Eastman Kodak, Xerox, >Reuters, America Online and Yahoo!, to use its new infoMarket >electronic-content clearinghouse for displaying and distributing their >wares. The infoMarket concept requires customers to pay for only what they >use, with the content providers controlling the information and setting >their own prices. "Charging only for what you want is a very attractive >scheme," says one electronic database provider. The system is based on >"Cryptolopes" -- secure electronic packaging that, when opened, bind the >user to a contractual agreement regarding the use of the content. If the >content is distributed beyond that agreement, the technology can track its >usage and bill the original purchaser for subsequent viewings. "It's a >complete break from all other ways information has been published on the Net >to date," says an industry consultant. "It turns pass-along from a business >threat to a business opportunity." (Business Week 13 May 96 p114) Again, it's not clear how this is supposed to work. It does remind me of that information-network thing that was promoted on the Extropian lists, except that didn't have any provisions on reuse. -Allen >*************************************************************** >Edupage ... is what you've just finished reading. To subscribe to Edupage: >send mail to: listproc(a)educom.unc.edu with the message: subscribe edupage >Alfred North Whitehead (if your name is Alfred North Whitehead; otherwise, >substitute your own name). ... To cancel, send a message to: >listproc(a)educom.unc.edu with the message: unsubscribe edupage. (If you >have subscription problems, send mail to educom(a)educom.unc.edu.)

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Re: Remailer in a box
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: IN%"loki(a)obscura.com" "Lance Cottrell" 9-MAY-1996 18:58:23.21 On Thu, 9 May 1996, E. ALLEN SMITH wrote: >> After taking a look at www.cyberpass.net, I can see why you're >> encoraging people to use it - about like Sameer encouraging people to use >> c2.org. >Guilty No problem. Modesty is an overrated virtue. >I am not pushing the anonymous accounts until my laywer finishes the user >agreement for them. It is a bit of a tricky document (Sameer, want a copy >when it is done?). The whole site is days away from a complete redesign, >so I am not putting much effort into the current interface. Thanks for >the suggestions though. I suspect that the legal types on cypherpunks would be interested in seeing it. Quite welcome on the suggestions. >The >= 18 condition is to cover my butt. Since minors can not be parties >to contracts, I have no protection with them as clients. I am only a >provider for adults, and they take full responsibility for any children >allowed to use the connection. Fuck the CDA, but keep an eye on its claws. I see your difficulty. It is an additional one with respect to anonymous accounts. Hmm... you could put the burden on other ISPs by only having anonymous accounts via telnet access - and not accepting such from k12.edu domains. Bit of a limit, though. -Allen

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Re: Why I Pay Too Much in Taxes
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 01:32 PM 5/9/96 -0400, Black Unicorn wrote: >> >> By the way, are there any PGP encrypted mailing lists for >> >> discussing serious tax fraud? >> >> > If such a list existed, would we tell an anonymous poster/fed? >> >> Well, if such a list does exist, I would like to know about it. >> >> -Robin >> > >Again, in the absence of any credentials or recommendation, I can't see >how the moderators/originators/managers of such a list would disclose the >details of its publication. Such a list could be published openly in any case since discussing techniques of tax fraud is legal. Even advocay would be legal in almost all cases. (Since tax fraud is a non-violent crime, you don't have any of these 'agitating an angry mob' scenarios.) As long as you avoided conspiring with anyone, you can discuss techniques all you like. Some *participants* might like to subscribe anonymously however. DCF

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Internet en danger
by gep2＠computek.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

You think we're having problems here in the USA with the idiotic CDA, right? I just received the following message from a colleague and friend who operates a large ISP in Paris, France. The translation is mine, and I can't assure its total accuracy, (anyone who sees an error on my part, please correct it for me). I'm leaving the original French so that the original intent of the message can be viewed. <---- Begin Forwarded Message ----> Return-Path: opinions(a)storm.certix.fr Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 19:42:12 +0200 From: Communication client <opinions(a)storm.certix.fr> To: gep2(a)storm.certix.fr Subject: Internet en danger > Cher(e)s abonne(e)s, Dear Subscribers, > Nous n'avons malheureusement plus la possibilite de vous laisser acceder au service de News. Exception faite des news world-net.communnaute, world-net.support, fr.network.internet. Unfortunately, we no longer have the possibility to let you access Usenet. The only exceptions are the newsgroups "world-net.communnaute", "world-net.support", and "fr.network.internet". > En effet, la justice francaise rend actuellement World-Net responsable de tout ce qui est diffuse sur Internet ; j'ai ete personnellement, en tant que responsable de World-Net, mis en examen hier parce que des images a caractere pedophile, venant de l'autre bout du monde etaient accessibles par notre service de News. Aujourd'hui les news, demain peut-etre le web. The French courts currently hold World-Net responsible for everything which is distributed on the Internet; I was personally, as director of World-Net, interrogated yesterday because some pedophile images, coming from the other end of the world, were accessible through our News server. Today Usenet, tomorrow perhaps the Web. > La majorite d'entre vous connait le fonctionnement du reseau Internet et sait bien que World-Net n'est que votre transporteur sur ce reseau. Cependant nous n'avons pas le choix. The majority of you understand the functioning of the Internet network and clearly realize that World-Net provides merely your access to this network. It's not a matter of our choice. > Nous diffuserons sur notre serveur Web l'ensemble des informations citees dans la presse et a la television concernant ce dossier. We will distribute via our Web server complete information as cited in the press and on television concerning this whole affair. > Si vous voulez soutenir World-NET, envoye un mail de soutien a opinions(a)worldnet.net. If you want to support World-NET, send a mail message of support to "opinions(a)worldnet.net". > Sebastien Socchard Directeur de World-Net. (director of World-Net) >Ci-joint le communique de presse de l'A.F.P.I., que nous remercions pour leur soutient : Here is the press release from the A.F.P.I., which we thank for their support: >COMMUNIQUE DE PRESSE DE L'A.F.P.I. Association FranÁaise des Professionnels d'Internet PRESS RELEASE FROM THE A.F.P.I. French Association of Internet Professionals > Mardi 7 Mai 1996 Tuesday, May 7, 1996 > Affaire: Newsgroups/Pedophilie/Internet: deux dirigeants en gardes a vue. Affair: Newsgroups/Pedophilia/Internet: Two directors <translation?> > Resume: "Nous demandons a l'ensemble des providers >franÁais et des administrateurs des reseaux d'universites de fermer l'acces a tous les Newsgroups, afin que plus un seul Newsgroup ne soit accessible du territoire franÁais, du moins tant que les fournisseurs d'acces n'auront pas en France un statut clair". Summary: "We ask all French ISPs and administrators of University networks to close access to all Usenet newsgroups, such that no longer will even one single Newsgroup will be accessible from French territory, at least until French ISPs have a clear legal position within France." > Depuis 48h00 les deux dirigeants des societes FranceNet et WorldNet sont en garde a vue pour avoir simplement fait leur metier consistant a fournir l'acces a l'Internet... Since about 48 hours, two directors of French companies, "FranceNet" and "WorldNet" are <translation?> for having simply done their job, consisting of providing access to the Internet... > En effet, la Section de Recherches de Paris de la gendarmerie Nationale a procede lundi a leurs arrestations et a la saisie de leurs materiels, pour avoir diffuse au travers des Newsgroups des images pedophiles. Ces Newsgroups et les images qu'ils abritent, sont tous produits a l'etranger et rapatries comme le font la plupart des fournisseurs d'acces franÁais via les serveurs de News de Transpac, filiale de France Telecom. The Research Section in Paris of the National Gendarmes started on Monday their arrests and seizures of equipment, for having distributed pedophile images through the Usenet newsgroups. These Newsgroups and the images they contained (?) are all originated abroad and brought into France as is done by the majority of French access providers via the News servers of Transpac, which is a subsidiary of France Telecom. > Alors que la justice, dans une affaire similaire mais liee cette fois a des contenus racistes ou revisionnistes presents sur l'internet, ne s'est pas encore prononces a l'encontre de neuf fournisseurs d'acces, alors que le ministere des Postes et des Telecommunication, au travers de son ministre FranÁois Fillon assurait encore recemment qu'en aucun cas les fournisseurs d'acces ne pouvaient Ítre tenus pour responsables des contenus qu'ils ne produisaient pas et qui circulaient sur l'internet, alors que le lieutenant-colonel Browne, commandant la SR de Paris, reconnait lui meme que les serveurs en question recevaient, stockaient et distribuaient (tout comme Transpac) mais ne produisaient pas ces Newsgroups, deux hommes, deux chefs d'entreprises sont aujourd'hui en prison simplement parce que les autorites n'ont toujours rien compris a l'Internet et a son fonctionnement. The [French] courts, in a similar case but this time based on racist or revisionist contents present on the Internet, have not yet passed their judgement regarding nine ISPs, although the Ministry of Post and Telecommunications, through its minister Francois Fillon, stated again recently that in no case can access providers be held responsible for content that they do not produce and which circulates via the Internet, and although Lieutenant-Colonel Browne, commander of the Research Section in Pairs, admitted himself that the servers in question receive, store, and distribute (the same as Transpac), but do not produce these Newsgroups, two men, two company directors, are today in prison simply because the authorities still haven't understood anything about the Internet and its functioning. >La plupart des providers rapatrient de 6 a 8 000 Newsgroups chaque jour, soit plusieurs centaines de milliers de messages, pouvant egalement contenir des images. Parmi ces messages ils y a incontestablement des contenus contraire a la loi franÁaise (sans doute moins de 5%), tout comme il peut en circuler par la poste, ou dans les soutes a bagage d'Air France. Il est materiellement impossible pour un provider de controler l'ensemble du contenu des messages des Newsgroups, il lui est eventuellement possible de supprimer l'acces a ceux dont le titre est de faÁon evidente contraire a la loi (ex.alt.binaries.pedophilia...), ce qui n'empechera pas le lendemain de voir surgir un nouvel intitule pour remplacer le Newsgroup censure. Depuis plusieurs mois deja les membres de l'AFPI (Association des Professionnels de l'Internet) dont FranceNet est l'un des fondateurs, ont spontanement decide de supprimer l'acces a une vingtaine de Newsgroups dont le simple libelle ne laissait aucun doute quant au caractere illegal de leurs contenus. The majority of providers import from six to eight thousand Newsgroups each day, therefore several hundred thousand messages, any of which could also contain images. Among these messages there are incontestably some contents which are contrary to French law (no doubt less than 5%), just as they could circulate through the mails, or in the baggage holds of Air France. It is materially impossible for a provider to check the contents of all Newsgroup messages; it is possible to block access to those whose title is clearly contrary to the law (e.g. alt.binaries.pedophilia...), which wouldn't prevent the following day to see a new group appear to replace the censored one. Since several months already, the members of the AFPI (Association of Internet Professionals), of which FranceNet is one of the founders, have spontaneously decided to suppress the access of about twenty Newsgroups whose title left no doubt as to the illegal character of their contents. > Aujourd'hui ce sont les Newsgroups qui sont vises, demain ce sera sans doute le tour du Web. Si les fournisseurs d'acces, qui nous ne le repeterons jamais assez, ne sont que de simples transporteurs facilitant l'acces a un reseau, peuvent Ítre emprisonnes, avec comme simple piece a conviction un contenu produit au Canada ou en Australie, nous allons assister purement et simplement a la mort de l'internet en France. Today it is the Newsgroups which are wiped out, tomorrow it will be doubtless the Web's turn. If access providers, which we can never emphasize enough, are but the simple transporters facilitating access to a network, can be imprisoned, due to the singular cause of an item produced in Canada or in Australia, we are going to see, purely and simply, the death of the Internet in France. >En signe d'indignation, de protestation et de solidarite envers nos confreres FranceNet et Worldnet, le fournisseur d'acces ImagiNet, egalement membre fondateur de l'AFPI, a decide de fermer purement et simplement l'acces a tous les Newsgroups. Nous demandons a l'ensemble des providers franÁais et des administrateurs des reseaux d'universites d'en faire autant afin que plus un seul Newsgroup ne soit accessible du territoire franÁais, du moins tant que les fournisseurs d'acces n'auront pas en France un statut clair. As a symbol of indignation, of protest, and of solidarity with our brothers at FranceNet and WorldNet, the access provider ImagiNet, also a founding member of the AFPI, has decided to purely and simply close access to all newsgroups. We ask all French ISPs and administrators of University networks to do the same, such that no longer will as much as a single Newsgroup will be accessible from French territory, at least until access providers in France have a clear legal status. >Nous esperons sincerement que cet appel sera suivit par l'ensemble des prestataires de connexion internet. We sincerely hope that this call will be followed by all Internet access providers. >Nous nous excusons aupres de nos abonnes pour la gene ainsi occasionnee par une telle decision, mais nous savons que vous la comprendrez et que la majorite d'entre vous nous soutiendrons dans cette action. We ask the understanding of our subscribers for the inconvenience caused by such a decision, but we know that you will understand and that the majority of you support us in this action. > Patrick Robin President d'ImagiNet. robin(a)imaginet.fr Tel 43 38 10 24 <---- End Forwarded Message ----> Please feel free to forward this message to all appropriate venues. "If we don't all hang together, we shall assuredly all hang separately." ---Thomas Jefferson (?) Gordon Peterson http://www.computek.net/public/gep2/

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Re: Senator Leahy's Public Key
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 1:16 AM 5/9/96, Eric Eden wrote: >What if you needed to set up a key server for a mass base of customers... >Obviously, authenticating them via e-mail would be difficult, verifying >them in person would be harder. Would there be any reasonable way to "Verifying them in person" would, in fact, be essentially impossible. Few sources of documentation mean much, in fact. Consider that I joined Intel in 1974 and was never once asked for any form of identification...I just showed up for work under my assumed name, Tim May, and no one was the wiser. Ask yourself this: Have you _ever_ really "verified" the identity of your girlfriend, your friends, your co-workers? (I mean this not to pose an existential riddle of no real significance, but to remind people how seldom we ever actually try to verify that people are "really" who they say they are.) ... >pretend that the labor is not the deciding factor. What would be the >best way to verify the customers keys if you couldn't visit each >customer in person? Representatives from my ISP, got.net, have attended some of my parties...and they _still_ don't know that I am _actually_ Irving J. Schlublutz, temporarily masquerading as "Tim May."\ >For example, would a photo copy of a drivers license be enough? For which purposes? DLs are notoriously easy to forge. I think $25 is the going price. (And DLs which would fool people like us are probably doable on any H-P color inkjet printer.) My point in all this being that "proofs of identity" aren't all they're cracked up to be. --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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