December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Cell Kill 2
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

4-27-96 NYT op-ed claims: On April 21, two Russian laser-guided missiles reportedly zeroed in on the cellular phone of Dzhokhar M. Dudayev, leader of the Chechen rebels, and killed him. According to the Russian newspaper Izvestia, Mr. Dudayev died while phoning an aide to King Hassan II of Morocco, who had been asked by President Yeltsin to help mediate an end to the war. Will any leader ever again be so gullible?

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Clyink Encryption Units
by creal 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Cylink STX-2400X Voice/Data Encryption Units - Easy hook-up to phone (4-pin modular plug) - 198 bit key - Clear/Secure voice/data - keyed lock - SEEK key exchange or manual key loading - User's manual - ac power supplys These are the same as the STX 9600X currently sold by Cylink at $3000/unit except the data transfer rate is 2400 bps instead of 9600 bps. Good voice recovery. Like new condition. Asking $450.

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(FYI) Fraud On The Internet
by Joseph M. Reagle Jr. 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>X-Sender: reagle(a)rpcp.mit.edu >Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 23:03:22 -0400 >To: coredohrs(a)RPCP.MIT.EDU >From: "Joseph M. Reagle Jr." <reagle(a)mit.edu> >Subject: Fraud On The Internet > > >Fraud On The Internet > >The National Fraud Information Center has begun collecting information >about fraud on the Internet. As part of the effort to gather >information and announce the project to Internet users, the NFIC has >created its own Web site and is accepting information via e-mail. The >Web site has links to state, federal and international law enforcement >sites plus details of the Internet fraud program and how suspicious >activity can be reported. >World Wide Web: http://www.fraud.org/ >E-mail: nfic(a)internetmci.com >_______________________ >Regards, I, man, am regal; a German am I >Joseph Reagle http://farnsworth.mit.edu/~reagle/home.html >reagle(a)mit.edu E0 D5 B2 05 B6 12 DA 65 BE 4D E3 C1 6A 66 25 4E > > > _______________________ Regards, I, man, am regal; a German am I Joseph Reagle http://farnsworth.mit.edu/~reagle/home.html reagle(a)mit.edu E0 D5 B2 05 B6 12 DA 65 BE 4D E3 C1 6A 66 25 4E

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[;)] v2.0
by Dave Del Torto 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

<http://www.well.com/user/ddt/info/jet-reply.html> (v2.0)

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Re: [NOISE] Re: Guardian angels, the decency brigade, and cyberserap
by angels＠wavenet.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Peter Trei wrote about my signature: > >It's this last sig-quote that bothers me. It's worth noting that, unlike >the other two, it has no attribution. It looks like an inversion of >Benjamin Franklin's: > >" They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety > deserve neither liberty nor safety." > - Historical Review of Pennsylvania It is an inversion of that quotation and it does indeed sum up our focus. It has no name on it because I switched it around to make a motto for our work. Not that I disagree with Franklin though. The comment is true both ways around. > >People usually put in their .sigs quotes they feel sum up their personal >philiosophy. I guess soon we'll see 'Gabriel' give us some more words >to live by; these may be right up his alley: > >"War is Peace" >"Ignorance is Strength" >"Freedom is Slavery" > - Orwell, "1984" :) As a former teacher at the University of London department of adult studies, teaching history, politics and International Relations I can assure you I am very familiar with the history and belief of totalitarianism - and have opposed them all my life. > >Gabriel's also misquoting Burke - the actual text is: >"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do >nothing. " > That's not how I have it but hey! Obviously we are dealing here with a man who knows his quotes. Gabriel ********************************************************* "Two people may disagree, but that does not mean that one of them is evil" *********************************************************

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Anybody know anything about this?
by anonymous-remailer＠shell.portal.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Resolved by the Senate (the House of Representatives concurring), That the Secretary of the Senate, in the enrollment of the bill (S. 735) shall make the following corrections: (Enrolled Bill (Sent to President)) --S.Con.Res.55-- S.Con.Res.55 Agreed to April 24, 1996 One Hundred Fourth Congress of the United States of America AT THE SECOND SESSION Begun and held at the City of Washington on Wednesday, the third day of January, one thousand nine hundred and ninety-six Concurrent Resolution Resolved by the Senate (the House of Representatives concurring), That the Secretary of the Senate, in the enrollment of the bill (S. 735) shall make the following corrections: ... `(g) LIMITATION ON DISCOVERY- `(1) IN GENERAL- (A) Subject to paragraph (2), if an action is filed that would otherwise be barred by section 1604, but for subsection (a)(7), the court, upon request of the Attorney General, shall stay any request, demand, or order for discovery on the United States that the Attorney General certifies would significantly interfere with a criminal investigation or prosecution, or a national security operation, related to the incident that gave rise to the cause of action, until such time as the Attorney General advises the court that such request, demand, or order will no longer so interfere. `(B) A stay under this paragraph shall be in effect during the 12-month period beginning on the date on which the court issues the order to stay discovery. The court shall renew the order to stay discovery for additional 12-month periods upon motion by the United States if the Attorney General certifies that discovery would significantly interfere with a criminal investigation or prosecution, or a national security operation, related to the incident that gave rise to the cause of action. `(2) SUNSET- (A) Subject to subparagraph (B), no stay shall be granted or continued in effect under paragraph (1) after the date that is 10 years after the date on which the incident that gave rise to the cause of action occurred. `(B) After the period referred to in subparagraph (A), the court, upon request of the Attorney General, may stay any request, demand, or order for discovery on the United States that the court finds a substantial likelihood would-- `(i) create a serious threat of death or serious bodily injury to any person; `(ii) adversely affect the ability of the United States to work in cooperation with foreign and international law enforcement agencies in investigating violations of United States law; or `(iii) obstruct the criminal case related to the incident that gave rise to the cause of action or undermine the potential for a conviction in such case.

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Re: CryptoAnarchy: What's wrong with this picture?
by mkj＠october.segno.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Sandy Sandfort wrote: > Income tax is the Godzilla of taxes. It is THE TAX when it comes > to the US. (Perhaps VAT has a similar status elsewhere, but both, > as pointed out, are subject to crypto-anarchistic subversion.) > > > ...taxes existed, and governments sustained themselves perfectly > > well, long before these systems arose. > > But at nowhere near the voracious levels of modern states. This is a point I hadn't considered. If the govt doesn't know where most of the money is, they can't "harvest" it nearly as efficiently. Although they will almost certainly try to extract as much as possible from the poor, you can't get blood from a stone. Hence the size of current governments will undoubtedly have to shrink. Most other arguments put forth so far in this thread, about how people "won't stand for" certain government behaviors and so forth, I don't find convincing. Modern military technologies, especially in the U.S., make the prospects of a sucessful popular uprising dubious. When you cut off someone's air supply, even the nicest, gentlest person will go into an unrestrained, murderous frenzy. I expect something similar will happen to even the most "civilized" governments within the next few years, as popular crypto begins to cut off their money supply. As I see it, only those relatively few citizens who can afford to flee will dare to resist. Which brings us to the "flight of capital" issue. Will nations be able to compete freely for the loyalty of the rich? Or will the most powerful nations form effective coalitions, and perhaps simply bomb "rogue" nations into the stone age? The more I contemplate my "simple" question of yesterday, the more I find myself getting into deep waters which I feel ill-equipped to navigate. I rapidly run up against such imponderable questions as, "What is government?" and "What is wealth, really?" Only one thing is certain: We live in interesting times! At any rate, I thank everyone for their thoughtful responses. --- mkj

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Re: code vs cypher
by attila 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

** Reply to note from hochiminh(a)alpha.c2.org 04/26/96 8:31pm -0700 = Perry E. Metzger" <perry(a)piermont.com> writes: = = pm> tm> Timothy C. May writes: = pm> tm> Well, I was not invited to join the elite and secret = pm> tm> coderpunks list, = well, apparently that was not a problem. = pm> It is neither elite nor secret. It is fairly high signal to = pm> noise. = pm> I think only about one in every fifty or so cypherpunks = pm> messages has any content at all worth mentioning. = = Agreed! I wasn't "invited". I simply requested access and = was quickly welcomed to the list. = yes, and that was the intent. I do not think the intent of those of us who formed Coderpunks "conspired to form an elitest group." The basic problem was simple --even code topics were politicized in cypherpunks which resulted in scores and days of "re: " messages until someone finally prefaced it with [NOISE], or changed the subject. = pm> tm> but I still have some thoughts on coding and, = pm> tm> especially, on the opportunities offered by Java. = pm> tm> Sorry if this interferes with discussions of Rabbi = pm> tm> Heir and Morris Dees. = = pm> You have no right to grumble about the situation here. = pm> It is exactly what you wanted. Here you were, a person = pm> of some personal gravitas and moral authority, and you = pm> put your stamp on the "post whatever you like; don't let = pm> the grumbling censors stop you". Well, as you sow, so = pm> shall you reap. Its your fault, more than anyone else's. = = TC May was not the first person to substantialy digress from = chartered topics but he certainly "ran with the ball" when he = got his chance to expose his ignorance and intolerance of = other races and religions (the cypher-relevance or "charter = topicality of which always escaped me). I was discouraged = by the encouragement given to the murder advocating moron, = Jim Bell to post his insance littany. = as to jim bell, does this imply you believe in censorship? I think you are mistaken with your implication that tcmay is a racist. Bigotry, etc. is usually created in the mind of a reader who jumps to conclusions. I am somewhat older than tim, and I find the politically correct revisionism even more humourous (and very intellectually cheap): vertically challenged, horizontally challenged, mobility challenged, mentally challenged, or whatever the current fads are. and, to top it off, I am disgusted with the high and mighty moralism of the revisionists. I fully agree with EEO, but I thoroughly disagree with quotas and preferences. I have more than an even tendency to call a spade a spade, and I may live where guns tend to outnumber our many children, but the only way a stranger can be bounced from my table is to interfer with grace --and there are some, as they are attending for the extra plate which is always set, who would protest that my prayer offends them. does anybody still have manners? tim finds humour in many things --and, he has the courage to challenge the politically correct revisonism which is being shoved down our throats by a bigger and bigger, but certainly not better, creeping vine of vipers we call our government, which is nothing more than a ship of fools. = pm> If Cypherpunks has become a cesspit, well, its YOUR cesspit, = pm> Tim. Its the list you always strove to create, but it appears = pm> that you now don't like the smell of your own wallow. Well, = pm> sorry. Deal with it. = = Well put, Perry! well, the premise may be correct on what cypherpunks drifts into with the endless political back and forth --the open forum; however, the creation of the cesspit is not one party's fault --we _all_ have contributed to the problem --which is compounded by direct, on-line connections. so, how about a little moderation in all things? -- Overseeing first-rate programmers is a managerial challenge roughly comparable to herding cats. cc: Cypherpunks <cypherpunks(a)toad.com>

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Windows remailer source code
by Bob Bridgewater 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, Please could you tell me if you know of any remailer source code that will run under Windows NT3.51 to enable me to set-up a remailer myself. Somebody told me that one has been announced recently and you may know where to find this. Any suggestions would be welcome. Bob Bridgewater bob(a)bridgew.demon.co.uk

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Re: [WhoWhere?]
by Gunjan Sinha 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I am sorry if you misunderstood my previous email. We are ex-Stanford grad, not current students! The WhoWhere? database is collected through a combination of technolofy, partnerships, and self-registrations by end-users. Our content is from publicly available sources. We run crawlers for Newsgroups and WWW to collect our content. Several Thousand individuals come to WhoWhere? to add theor listing every day. Hope I have been able to clarify your confusion. Gunjan WhoWhere? Inc. > From llurch(a)networking.stanford.edu Sun Apr 28 04:54:21 1996 > Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 04:43:36 -0700 (PDT) > From: Rich Graves <llurch(a)networking.stanford.edu> > To: Gunjan Sinha <gunjan(a)parsecweb.com> > cc: cypherpunks(a)toad.com > Subject: Re: [WhoWhere?] > > You wrote: > > > We would like to bring to your attention the WhoWhere? search engine at > > URL: http://www.whowhere.com If you feel it is appropriate for the > > Stanford community, we would appreciate a link from your "campus > > directory"... > > > > WhoWhere? is an effort by a team from Stanford GSB and engineering school > > and we would appreciate your support of our efforts. > > > > Please feel free to give us any feedback to enhance our service > > to build the largest white pages community. > > Please unplug your server from the Internet immediately, and do not plug > it back in until all database entries based on other than publicly > available information have been scrubbed. Please refer any Stanford > affiliates involved with your project to the thread concerning your > activities in the su.computers newsgroup. > > Thank you. Have a nice day. > > -rich > >

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