December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Massey, CEO of Compuserve, on Internet
by Robert A. Rosenberg 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 16:30 1/3/96, Tony Iannotti wrote: >On Wed, 3 Jan 1996, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: > >> CIS always knows where you are dialing in from. Here is the start of a >> typical connection (using the Mac Program NAVIGATOR). >> >> >0001NUH [snip] >> That NUH identifies that I am calling in via a V34 Node in NYC and the T01 >> says I got the first modem on the Rotory. If CIS wanted to restrict access >> via the NYS nodes, that NUH would be an adequate flag to trigger this >> action. > >Wouldn't this require some software routines added to check for this? I >expect the decision to build or buy is what CIS is now weighing. Also, I >would imagine that a German could always call a POP outside the country if >they wanted to pay for it..... (note that I am still not in favor of the >action, but these are probably CIS's considerations.) Yes it would require that the Node be checked in the Software. What I was responding to was a claim that there is no way of telling where I am connecting from (which I disproved). As to calling a non-German Node, that is always an option.

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I don't proofread...sorry.
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 5:30 PM 1/4/96, Jim Ray wrote: >As to the "English lesson," I feel that proofreading messages to >1200+ people is more important than proofing private e-mail, but >some folks evidently disagree with me. For an example of posts >which I feel are properly proofed, please see Tim's posts. They >aren't perfect English (mine aren't either) but there's evidence >that he takes the time to proofread them. This not only makes ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >his posts easier to read, it makes them [IMO] more convincing. >Of course, I usually agree with Tim anyway. [Hi Tim] I'll shut Thanks for the positive comments, but I need to clear the air about this "proofreading" business: I usually don't proofread my posts. I write 'em as fast as I think 'em, then I send 'em! A few of my longer essays I've proofed, reworked, etc., but mostly I just respond by typing directly and then sending. I no longer even use a spelling checker, in fact. This can probably be guessed by some of you, as I sometimes leave out words, which careful proofing would normally catch. I figure that informal communications are tolerant to such informal usages. I also tend to write in a conversational style, so the agonized structuring and restructuring that some writers apparently feel they must go through does not enter in to my own writing. (I'm a relatively fast typist, and am comfortable composing at the keyboard, which not everone is, of course.) One thing I try to scrupulously check are the distribution list and the other message headers, usually because I edit down the distribution list and sometimes to change the thread title to something more closely related to my actual message (as I have done here). --Tim May We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^756839 - 1 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: Microsoft has a way to go on E-Mail
by rah＠shipwright.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

tcmay(a)got.net (Timothy C. May) said, >Either Microsoft handles undeliverable mail different from most other >places, ... I believe that this is what Mr. Bill called "Eating your own dog food." ;-) Cheers, Bob Hettinga ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "Reality is not optional." --Thomas Sowell The NEW(!) e$ Home Page: http://thumper.vmeng.com/pub/rah/ >>>>Phree Phil: Email: zldf(a)clark.net http://www.netresponse.com/zldf <<<<<

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Re: Guerilla Internet Service Providers (fwd)
by frantz＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:43 1/4/96 -0600, Jason Rentz wrote: >Previous exchanges deleted... >> >>With a tightly focused beam (light is easy, I don't know about lower >>frequencies), you can prevent interception except by very obvious physical >>devices. (e.g. Someone in a cherry picker truck.) You may be able to >>avoid the need to encrypt the link (and all the paranoia about key >>management, advances in factoring etc. that that implies.) >> >>Bill > >The problem with this comes when you start creating links between much >taller buildings like in San Fran. Any give building over 30 stories might >sway a foot or so at any given time. Combine that with the other building >and you might get a few feet of movement. (movement not including during an >earthquake) :) (1) No single communication technology is appropriate for every problem. (2) A technical fix could include having the receiver send steering orders to the transmitter. This solution would, of course, be a long way from the low tech scavenged lens and 1/2 meter cardboard mailing tube technology I was thinking of. Bill

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Microsoft has a way to go on E-Mail
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

It looks to me as if Microsoft has a way to go on e-mail. Every message I send to the list generates long bounce messages sent back to me. I assume others are getting the same thing. For example, just the latest one, sent from Postmaster <postmaster(a)microsoft.com>: The following recipient(s) could not be reached: Zeke Lucas on 01/03/96 22:50:19 The recipient name is not recognized [MSEXCH:MSExchangeMTA:northamerica:RED-70-MSG] Bruce E. Johnson on 01/03/96 22:50:19 The recipient name is not recognized [MSEXCH:MSExchangeMTA:northamerica:RED-70-MSG] Christopher Carper on 01/03/96 22:50:19 The recipient name is not recognized [MSEXCH:MSExchangeMTA:northamerica:RED-70-MSG] John Douceur on 01/03/96 22:50:19 The recipient name is not recognized [MSEXCH:MSExchangeMTA:northamerica:RED-70-MSG] Mike Montague on 01/03/96 22:50:19 The recipient name is not recognized [MSEXCH:MSExchangeMTA:northamerica:RED-70-MSG] Etc. Either Microsoft handles undeliverable mail different from most other places, or they don't want employees getting the Cypherpunks list (:-}). I suspect the former. --Tim May We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^756839 - 1 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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AP: Compuserve Will Lift Newsgroup Ban
by Declan B. McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Compuserve's original statement from last week is at: http://www.compuserve.com/at/pressbox/newsgrps.html Attached are excerpts from today's AP article. -Declan ---------- Forwarded message begins here ---------- Columbus, Ohio (AP) -- The on-line service CompuServe says it hopes to reopen access to 200 sexually oriented Internet forums to all but its German customers by the end of the month... CompuServe spokesman Jeff Shafer said Wednesday the Columbus-based company is working on a software fix that will prevent Germans from accessing the newsgroups while allowing access to customers in the rest of the world... Munich's senior public prosecutor, Manfred Wick, said this week his office did not order a ban or provide CompuServe with any list as part of its investigation of child pornography. But he acknowledged that police asked CompuServe to scrutinize a list last month. `The decision on whether and to what extent the groups on the list would be blocked was left to CompuServe,'' Wick's statement said.

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USENIX anyone?
by Matt Blaze 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I'm going to be at the USENIX conference in San Diego later this month, as are, I suspect, many other crypto/cypherpunk types. Any interest in a crypto BOF?

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by FreeBSD user 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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by frantz＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 13:55 1/4/96 -0500, Tony Iannotti wrote: >On Thu, 4 Jan 1996, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: > >> Yes it would require that the Node be checked in the Software. What I was >> responding to was a claim that there is no way of telling where I am >> connecting from (which I disproved). As to calling a non-German Node, that >> is always an option. > >Yes, I agree. I think the real difference is that they really cannot tell >where you are calling from, even though they know where you are >connecting. Caller ID could tell them where you are calling from. They can also use their billing information and user profile information to decide where you live and/or how old you are. I wonder if any of these filters will keep the German prosecutors off their necks, given that they can be bypassed. I feel sorry for them given the situation they are in, and want to kick their butts for just rolling over dead instead of fighting for free access. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz Periwinkle -- Computer Consulting (408)356-8506 16345 Englewood Ave. frantz(a)netcom.com Los Gatos, CA 95032, USA

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Re: Microsoft has a way to go on E-Mail
by Brad Shantz 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, I've just installed the Microsoft Exchange Server release candidate at the office. I am firmly convinced that the bounce messages Tim just mentioned are from an Exchange server that has not been set up correctly. Things I've noticed: If the client sends a message to an invalid address on the same LAN the server returns an error saying that there is no transport available. If the mail is from an oustide source, the recipient is not recognized. It's really easy to make mistakes because there is no consistency whatsoever between Exchange Server and MS-Mail Server. Brad

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