December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Meeting notes from ANSI X.9 Meeting on Electronic Payment
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: IN%"pfarrell(a)netcom.com" 5-DEC-1995 02:49:01.83 Accountants know how to meet acceptable auditing standards when transactions are in cash. I learned this from the CPA I live with. ----------------- How does this work? While I can see tracking expenditures (i.e., the advertized price of an item and the amount of that item purchased by a store), it would appear decidedly more difficult in the case of service companies (and even more so for self-employed individuals). I am not referring to a company being able to keep track of its own books; I am referring to the IRS accepting those books as the real ones, when a large part of the company's income is in cash and therefore hard to trace. -Allen

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[NOISE] [POINTER]
by Jon Lasser 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

(All my messages will now be tagged as noise, because someone, somewhere, might disagree :) ) http://www.salon1999.com/current/features/media.html About censorship and fear in the media. No crypto mentions, but Exon, V-Chip, Internet, etc... for the average reader, really. But interesting nonetheless... Jon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jon Lasser <jlasser(a)rwd.goucher.edu> (410)494-3072 Visit my home page at http://www.goucher.edu/~jlasser/ You have a friend at the NSA: Big Brother is watching. Finger for PGP key.

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No More Netscape Comments from Me
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Not that you all hang on my every word, but I owe it to you folks at least a brief mention of why I feel I can no longer comment on Netscape. Not for legal reasons, but for conflict-of-interest reasons. I'm in the midst of making some investments involving Netscape (buying/selling short, Internet Index options, etc.) and my comments from herein out could be thought of by some as disingenous. So, have fun riding the Great Internet Bubble of 1995! --Tim May Views here are not the views of my Internet Service Provider or Government. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^756839 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders are just speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Apache-SSL for export
by Jyri Kaljundi 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Are the SSL patches for Apache available somewhere else than in USA or UK? You know I am a big security risk for those countries as I live in Estonia, so it is not allowed for me to get apache-ssl legally. Good old COCOM restrictions, the poor guys in Great Britain have not heard the world has changed. So can anyone suggest how to get the software? Ftp, fsp, http, e-mail, anything will do. Juri Kaljundi jk(a)digit.ee Digiturg http://www.digit.ee/

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USENIX Conference.
by loki＠obscura.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

USENIX is in San Diego this year so I will be attending. I hope to see some of you there. If you will be going, please drop me a note. If there are enough of us I will try to set up a BOF (birds of a feather) session for cypherpunk / remailer discussions. -Lance ---------------------------------------------------------- Lance Cottrell loki(a)obscura.com PGP 2.6 key available by finger or server. Mixmaster, the next generation remailer, is now available! http://obscura.com/~loki/Welcome.html or FTP to obscura.com "Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra. Suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night the ice weasels come." --Nietzsche ----------------------------------------------------------

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ANNOUNCE: December 9th: Bay Area Cypherpunks Meeting and Party
by Eric Messick 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Bay Area Cypherpunks Meeting and Party Saturday December 9th, 1995 What: Cypherpunks Meeting and Party When: Saturday December 9th, 4pm - ??? Who: You. Where: Our dome in the Santa Cruz Mountains We'll be providing some drinks and snacks. Please feel free to bring other consumables. Directions follow. Cut at the perferations and send to a PostScript printer to generate a map. Or, you can read the top of the file directly. This announcement is available on the Web at <a href="http://syzygy.com/dec.cypherpunks.party.announcement.html"> this URL,</a> including a .gif version of the map and directions. - ->8 - - - ->8 - - - ->8 - - - ->8 - - - ->8 - - - ->8 - - - ->8 - - %!ps % Directions to KT & Eric's dome % % KT & Eric % 15139 Old Ranch Rd % Los Gatos CA 95030 8506 % +1 408 353 4751 % % From San Jose, take Highway 17 South from Highway 280 for 15 miles. % From Santa Cruz, take Highway 17 North from Highway 1 for 12.5 miles. % Exit Highway 17 at Summit Road (the only bridge over Highway 17 in % the mountains), and head west. % 0.5 miles west of 17, turn left from Summit Road onto Hutchinson Road. % 0.2 miles from Summit, just after Riva Ridge Road on the left and a long % group of mailboxes on the right, turn right from Hutchinson onto % Old Ranch Road. % A short distance down Old Ranch there is a three-way fork. The left % branch is a small driveway; the center branch is Old Ranch Road which % continues around a curve to the left (a sign points to the left to % indicate this); and the right branch leads to our house and three % others. Our address (15139) is on the top of a sign to the right. % Turn onto the rightmost fork, down a steep grade. % Our geodesic dome is 0.4 miles from Hutchinson Road down the rightmost % fork of Old Ranch Road. /fg { 0 setgray } def /bg { 1 setgray } def /r { moveto currentpoint } def /a { rmoveto pop pop currentpoint } def /ah { pop pop currentpoint } def /rc { rcurveto } def /lab { % x y alpha (str) gsave 4 2 roll rmoveto exch rotate show grestore } def /nl { show 7 sub r } def bg clippath fill 4.25 72 mul 5.5 72 mul translate 90 rotate 2 2 scale /Helvetica findfont 5 scalefont setfont 0 0 moveto currentpoint 70 -100 a currentpoint % North arrow 50 30 a fg 3 setlinewidth 0 60 rlineto ah stroke r 0 -10 1 -15 5 -20 rc stroke r gsave -5 5 rmoveto /Times-Bold findfont 13 scalefont setfont (N) show grestore pop pop r -12 20 -90 (to Santa Cruz -->) lab -25 210 -65 (<-- to San Jose) lab 11 setlinewidth fg 2 120 -10 170 -30 200 rc stroke r % 17 outer lines 7 setlinewidth bg 2 120 -10 170 -30 200 rc stroke r % 17 interior 1 setlinewidth fg 2 120 -10 170 -30 200 rc stroke r % 17 center 1.25 100 a 10 -40 270 (Highway 17) lab 2 setlinewidth -2.5 27 rmoveto fg 2 -7 5 -9 14.5 4.7 rc stroke r % summit to 17n -8.2 0 rmoveto fg -2.5 20 -10.5 30 -20.5 50 rc stroke r % summit to 17s -12.75 35 rmoveto fg 2 -15 -4 -8 -13.3 10 rc stroke r % 17s to summit 1 setlinewidth -3.2 49 rmoveto % bridge fingers fg 5 5 rlineto stroke r -3.2 49 rmoveto fg .85 -7 rlineto stroke r -18.5 52 rmoveto fg -3 6 rlineto stroke r -19 52 rmoveto fg -2 -6 rlineto stroke r -1 48 rmoveto % bridge border 9 setlinewidth fg -8 3 -13 5 -20 4 rc stroke r -1 48 rmoveto % bridge interior 7 setlinewidth bg -8 3 -13 5 -20 4 rc stroke r 2 setlinewidth .5 0 rmoveto fg 0 20 9.5 30 19.5 40 rc ah stroke r % 17n to summit currentpoint fg 10 10 25 15 40 10 rc stroke r % summit e 33 15 -15 (Summit Rd) lab 25 11.5 rmoveto fg 10 10 10 20 5 40 rc stroke r % mt charlie e 30 70 -80 (Mt Charlie Rd) lab 5 15 25 (Phone) lab 0 5 25 (Parking lot) lab pop pop r fg -20 10 -40 15 -48 10 rc ah stroke r % across bridge fg -16 -10 10 -35 -3 -43 rc ah stroke r fg 5 -10 0 -20 5 -30 rc stroke r % mt charlie w 5 -5 -80 (Mt Charlie Rd) lab fg -13 -8 -20 20 -30 15 rc ah stroke r fg -10 -5 -30 -20 -55 -20 rc ah stroke r fg 5 -10 0 -20 5 -30 rc stroke r % stagecoach 5 -5 280 (Stagecoach Rd) lab fg -25 0 -10 -20 -15 -25 rc ah stroke r fg -5 -5 -30 0 -40 0 rc stroke r % summit continues... -45 5 -5 (Summit Rd) lab fg 5 -5 0 -20 0 -30 rc ah stroke r % hutchinson 5 25 -90 (Hutchinson Rd) lab % side road could go here fg 0 -10 3 -10 5 -17 rc ah stroke r fg 5 -5 10 -8 20 -8 rc stroke r % riva ridge 15 -5 0 (Riva Ridge Rd) lab fg 1 -3 1 -4 2 -7 rc ah stroke r fg 1 -3 5 -5 10 -7 rc stroke r % hutchinson continues... 3 -12 -20 (Hutchinson Rd) lab 1.5 setlinewidth fg -5 -5 -10 8 -15 3 rc ah stroke r % old ranch fg -3 -3 0 -10 5 -15 rc stroke r % old ranch continues... -8 -9 -55 (Old Ranch Rd) lab 1 setlinewidth fg 2 1 rmoveto -1 -2 1 -4 5 -7 rc stroke r % left fork driveway fg -5 5 -15 15 -20 12 rc ah stroke r % our portion of old ranch fg -5 -3 -15 -15 -25 -10 rc ah stroke r fg -10 5 -15 5 -20 0 rc ah stroke r fg -5 -5 -10 -5 -20 0 rc stroke r % our portion continues... fg 5 -5 rlineto ah stroke r % our driveway fg 7 2 rmoveto currentpoint newpath 3 0 360 arc stroke r /Helvetica-Bold findfont 5 scalefont setfont -15 -10 0 (KT & Eric) lab -15 -15 0 (15139 Old Ranch Rd) lab -15 -20 0 (Los Gatos CA 95030 8506) lab -15 -25 0 (+1 408 353 4751) lab -155 115 moveto ah /Times-Roman findfont 6 scalefont setfont (From San Jose, take Highway 17 South from Highway 280 for 15 miles.) nl (From Santa Cruz, take Highway 17 North from Highway 1 for 12.5 miles.) nl (Exit Highway 17 at Summit Road $the only bridge over Highway 17 in) nl ( the mountains$, and head west.) nl (0.5 miles west of 17, turn left from Summit Road onto Hutchinson Road.) nl (0.2 miles from Summit, just after Riva Ridge Road on the left and a long group) nl ( of mailboxes on the right, turn right from Hutchinson onto Old Ranch Road.) nl (A short distance down Old Ranch there is a three-way fork. The left branch is a) nl ( small driveway; the center branch is Old Ranch Road which continues around a) nl ( curve to the left $a sign points to the left to indicate this$; and the right branch) nl ( leads to our house and three others. Our address $15139$ is on the top of a) nl ( sign to the right. Turn onto the rightmost fork, down a steep grade.) nl (Our geodesic dome is 0.4 miles from Hutchinson Road down the rightmost) nl ( fork of Old Ranch Road.) nl -80 128 moveto ah /Times-Bold findfont 12 scalefont setfont (Directions to KT & Eric's dome) nl pop pop showpage

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latest librand source now available
by Matt Blaze 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Souce code for the latest version of librand (a random number package based on event interval variations) for Unix-like machines is now available in: ftp://ftp.research.att.com/dist/mab/librand.shar There are no restictions on use or distribution of this code, which was written by Matt Blaze, Jack Lacy, and Don Mitchell. -matt

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Re: Do the Right Thing
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- cactus(a)hks.net (Leslie Todd Masco) wrote: >In article <199512050326.VAA30525@khijol>, Ed Carp <ecarp(a)netcom.com> wrote: >>That's one of the most politically and socially naive statements I've >>ever heard. Corporations *never* do the "right thing" unless it will >>increase their profits. > >I just *love* hearing statments like this from people who have probably >never started their own businesses. Perhaps they've worked for a corporation? :-) >Corporations are no more or less than their component people. If the people >running a corporation care about an issue, the corporation will act upon >it -- bounded by the interaction of their survival instinct with their >assessment of reality. How could it be otherwise? Certainly. In many organizations, the people who set policy, and the people who "run" the corporation are not the same. Often important managers disagree on issues or on how to achieve them. Individuals within the company are often focused more on their careers and position within the company, than on the affect their decisions have outside the company. To equate an organization, especially a large one, with its constituent parts ensures that you will be continually surprised by its complex and unpredictable behavior. BTW, the crypto relevance of this thread is nil. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBMMSvq4iUi5SQtQ3tAQF0BAgAwItXRVPLN4f20vAnS7hVj2uAvK7bfqpG Zp9zVNQoBQfmf+K3KWhdH4a7mg6wAS1MLEyobpcBVyS/W6bBS+3a7TSfQjxRNp7L RKGeyJG+VO4npX0wZ10OuTbQekjr5MkxfQWYI1MnFvAWsyQA05XeKP2fZBRvWDtm OGM+1BJtFpNEAPJFDV+o2gHojwVZ870v0zH/9SA2/eTnh5PDqmbb90N7m+ccnRU+ yTSecohxnBeWHslz0FEDw1ZKud9kHCqWWRWIVkBUK7JRxW4o+/yazMfw1d8w+NAI C/SMP2boacdmv71i3bhgHtm0O4FT0UJKbsstLq7IKg/7E6MuuiFydA== =7GRj -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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latest librand source now available
by Matt Blaze 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

[Sorry if this is a duplicate; my machine had a bogus sendmail.cf when I first sent this.] Souce code for the latest version of librand (a random number package based on event interval variations) for Unix-like machines is now available in: ftp://ftp.research.att.com/dist/mab/librand.shar There are no restictions on use or distribution of this code, which was written by Matt Blaze, Jack Lacy, and Don Mitchell. -matt

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The Newspaper sez J.Clark sez "Uncle Sam Needed for Net Security"
by Bryce 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- <begin quote> daily news Uncle Sam Needed for Net Security picture By Anne Knowles November 29, 1995, 12 p.m. PT BOSTON--Getting the government involved in maintaining Internet data privacy may not be popular, but it's going to be necessary. That's the message Netscape Communications chair Jim Clark delivered this morning in his keynote address to an audience here at Email World and Internet Expo. To secure Net communications, the government will need to have access to private data exchanges using what is known as a key escrow security system, said Clark. He added that an invincible security system for the Net is possible, but such a system won't be built unless the government has a stake in it. "That's where key escrow comes in," said Clark. Key escrow is a controversial security system advocated by the Clinton administration that gives the government access to private Net communications. It uses public key cryptography, a system in which messages are coded and decoded using a set of private and public keys. In key escrow, the private key is held by both the individual or group and the government. The government can use the key ostensibly to read messages for intelligence and national security reasons. Currently the U.S. government restricts export of strong keys in excess of 40 bits so it can break the code if necessary. The weaker keys, however, make the messages vulnerable to other attacks as well. A group of French scientists, for example, cracked Netscape software using 40-bit keys by employing a network of supercomputers over the course of a week. According to Clark, though, restricting the export of stronger software isn't the answer. "That's the wrong solution; we need bulletproof keys." Netscape's stock price soared $20 yesterday based on a buy recommendation by Goldman Sachs. The stock continues to climb today: the share price is up $9 to $140. Clark said Netscape is trying to keep pace with everyone's expectations. "The Internet is a gargantuan opportunity, but it's up to us to take advantage of it." Expect to see more fluctuations. Said Steve Weiss, a principal at Product Management Group in San Francisco, "Anything like this that is so closely allied to wishes, bets, and beliefs is likely to move up and down quite a bit." The run up is a reflection of the promise the Internet holds for investors. After all, added Weiss, "the stock market is the mirror of the soul of the Internet." [Additonal reporting by Denise Shelton.] <end quote> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Auto-signed under Unix with 'BAP' Easy-PGP v1.01 iQCVAwUBMMSk8PWZSllhfG25AQESyQP8DBxGvO9Gkbwya6MmAVPRpGH2kqhQ3As5 5+2WoUKRpAfRg/0riHqIRK1vB9NW6mIM8Tl1I1FH1E7cagamKAb3yqjIQ56UApQG 9ow2ULaT7bRUHkhQuSF2jOpsJvzJdXSJGtvUyxB+BM0roAQHjFeWSVoUYv2GgVgU 7AsJwlLYorQ= =/+dp -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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