December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Syrinx Remailer is no more
by loki＠obscura.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- This is the kind of announcement which really needs to be authenticated. I will leave syrinx on my list until I see a signed message confirming this announcement. If we do not bother to authenticate this kind of message, why bother with all the crypto, here is the mother of all denial of service attacks. -Lance At 7:22 PM 11/21/95, Sam Kaplin wrote: >Effective immediately syrinx(a)c2.org is no more. I no longer have the >time to keep this remailer up and running. Perhaps somewhere down the >line I will set up another one. Please remove Syrinx from your chains. > >Sam -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBMLK1+vPzr81BVjMVAQHgoAf/TpVsZ+St9vz4ix5PLaabP60ybJRATE+V t2iBxQmxRqhOcdVPZJU1An5pUdCOCgB3amLXNJXkMnoOasi/0ps3igOw0uFaFUf8 ZgCvM4MfNsdPfduCRfsb+5a1IvTkhmP6oapX9lUXDB5a4nHRQvtXkt96sg2hgaIj sqwPpGFaFvLhkiqQ971CL3+EV4+0GkZ3iH2g5pQ2BD6iACVBReINgCuyi/LiNbvZ yGBguPb38VTCDWbzancgQVrMEzTdwcQrmhfhHDO/5H5g6reWrEMioKGWScTZgxH1 fMs40LXxwu25cUziywYjgw9uhEEQu1K1GY7sVE3CoPPenRfcKAutsA== =c2AJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ---------------------------------------------------------- Lance Cottrell loki(a)obscura.com PGP 2.6 key available by finger or server. Mixmaster, the next generation remailer, is now available! http://obscura.com/~loki/Welcome.html or FTP to obscura.com "Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra. Suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night the ice weasels come." --Nietzsche ----------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Spam the Sign!
by Corey Bridges 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hm. Well, if you think spamming us will help convince the gov't to export strong crypto, go crazy. (Heck, I don't mind--it makes my job more secure.) And yes, we HAVE enjoyed the message "Strong Crypto NOW" that's been scrolling for the last 3 hours. Corey Bridges Security Scribe Netscape Communications Corporation 415-528-2978

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Cyberpunk handbook
by Hal 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

You Bay Area people probably know all about this already, but I was browsing through the local bookstore yesterday and saw Eric Hughes, Cypherpunks co-founder, on the cover of the "Cyberpunk [sic] Handbook", a slim satirical volume by the Mondo 2000 people. The book has more attitude than information, though. Hal

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Re: Spam the Sign!
by jimbell＠pacifier.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>On September 27, Jeff Weinstein of Netscape (and others) wrote: > >> > > ... would be nice if we could get 128 bit keys, though ... (hint, >> > > hint). >> > >> > We are working this issue with the government. As soon as we can >> > make it available for download we will. > >> In other words, we will never see it in our lifetimes -- the >> bureaucreeps aren't known for promoting the spread of strong crypto. > >>> Where did I imply that if the govt. ignored us or said no that we >>> would meekly go away with tail between legs? Here's a question: Why can't Netscape be released WITHIN THE US with 128 bit keys? Admittedly, it would probably...uh...escape within a few hours, but that's no worse than what other cryptosystems (best-known example, PGP) have done.

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ecash casino
by sameer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Any enterprising cypherpunks in gambling-friendly jurisdictions interested? I figure it would make ecash take off.. and you'd get rich. -- sameer Voice: 510-601-9777 Community ConneXion FAX: 510-601-9734 The Internet Privacy Provider Dialin: 510-658-6376 http://www.c2.org/ (or login as "guest") sameer(a)c2.org

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No Privacy Right in UK ? - Part 2
by James M. Cobb 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Friend, 11 27 95 Press Association News in the UK reports: STORM AS SPY CAMERA `JUICY BITS' SET FOR SALE "Furious MPs are demanding action," cries the story. Why? Their anger follows a row over the sale in video shops of "juicy bits" from closed circuit TV cameras fixed in high streets and stores to detect crime. High streets: where the fashionable retail shops are. One extract showed a couple having sex in a doorway, unaware they were being watched. It wasn't me, Mums, I swear! A Liberal Democrat family spokeswoman: "That this sale has been allowed is a disgrace and will undermine the trust the public has in cameras designed to cut crime." A Labour MP: "This situation plainly leaves people wide open to black- mail." He said "some of his constituents in Linlithgow had recently been compromised by such a video." A sly dog at the Home Office: "We have not seen the video [good move!], but judging from what has been said about it, it would have to be classified by the British Board of Film Classification if it is being sold." If we don't have privacy, we do have censorship! But Mums, I swear... Cordially, Jim NOTE. The Press Association website's URL: http://www.pa.press.net The newsstory's online filename: pick8.html.

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"Proprietary" internetworking protocols (was RE: The future will be easy to use )
by Pete Loshin 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Perry E. Metzger writes: >attila writes: >>figures. I'll give ipsec and ipsec-dev a look. However, SUN does have >>the power to make something happen on the high-power workstations, and the >>fact they are making a portable package available in source code is >>farther than anyone else has gone. > >Unfortunately, an internetworking protocol used by only one vendor >gets nowhere. much other discussion ommitted... I hate to quibble, but past experience may demonstrate this to be inaccurate. In particular, and most relevantly: NFS (Sun) SSL (Netscape) Another internetworking protocol (IPX) gave Novell a good run. The point is that a working implementation goes a long way for people who want/need _something_ that works, NOW. Consider the relative merits/success of S-HTTP and SSL. ObCrypto: the POTP people are the Boston Internet Expo today and tomorrow, and they have their "technical guy" who is supposed to be answering questions. The nontechnical guy said they generate random numbers using randomness taken from the text of the messages being encrypted. -pl _Electronic Commerce_ (Charles River Media, available now) pete(a)loshin.com

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Re: Internet Terminals
by Marshall Clow 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Jim Choate sez: >Forwarded message: > >> Subject: Re: The future will be easy to use >> From: dlv(a)bwalk.dm.com (Dr. Dimitri Vulis) >> Date: Mon, 27 Nov 95 21:28:05 EST >> >> One thing that David didn't mention is security add-ons to the "network >> computers" that are supposed to be rolled out within the next few months -- >> the successors to X terminals, $500 boxes with a good screen/sound, >> cheap cpu, and a few megs of ram and flash memory to hold a web browser. >> I expect some folks to make a good living by writing add-ons (including >> crypto add-ons) to these gizmos. >> > >Don't hold your breath. The current market surveys say that there is no >market for them. Check out this weeks PC Week or Mac Week, as they both >have several articles discussing this. Bottem line is that the under $1000 >computer seems to have no future either in industry or the home. > I agree and disagree. ;-) The "internet terminal", or "internet appliance", as it is sometimes called, is IMHO, worthless. Would you write and send e-mail if you had no way of archiving it? Would you use "net-quicken", if it required all your data to be stored on a shared disk at Intuit? (There was an interview on NPR 11/17 where this was touted as "the next big thing"!) On the other hand, I believe that a <$1000 computer would be a big seller. >From a marketing point of view, there's just something about a price tag with three digits left of the decimal point, even if they're all nines :-) The tough part is making it usable, and making some money on it. [ I've got this 386-40, with 1 MB RAM and a 40MB hd, see... ] >Realisticaly, who in their right mind would buy a diskless workstation to >connect to Internet? > No one. >You certainly wouldn't do crypto on it because it has >to boot from somewhere else and this leaves all kinds of security holes. > Actually, I think the plan is to boot from ROM. >Anyone who bases their business on this technology won't have a business. > I agree. -- Marshall Marshall Clow Aladdin Systems mclow(a)mailhost2.csusm.edu "Eternal vigilance is the price of PostScript" -- MacUser Jan 96 DTP and Graphics column

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Re: [NOISE] Chi Sun Times SS# Sweepstakes
by Robert A. Rosenberg 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:12 11/27/95, Dan Harmon wrote: >One reason for the ssn's is that it maybe a LEA sponsered promo. If you a >dumb enough to have a warrent or other some judgement against you and you >give your ssn and address to a person or enity that you don't know then >shame on you. This reminds me of an incident that occurred in California last year. A number of people received a notice that they had just won an all-expenses-paid trip. Most of them turned up to get their gift only to then discover that it was a Government Sting Operation and that the trip was to Jail (they were all wanted on outstanding warrants which were waiting for them when they arrived at the meeting site).

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Clinton speaks at Air Force, NSA birthday
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

1:50 P.M. EDT THE PRESIDENT: Thank you very much. Secretary Cohen, Secretary Widnall, General Eberhart, Chaplain Dendinger, Chief Benkin. To the Air Force Band, the Air Force Academy Cadet Chorale, the friends and families, especially the men and women of the United States Air Force. I'm delighted to be here as we celebrate this 50th anniversary of the best Air Force in the world. Secretary Widnall thanked me for coming to your 50th birthday party. Actually, I thank you for having me. Ever since I turned 50 myself, I've been looking for all the company I can find. (Laughter.) And since I can't run for office anymore, Secretary Cohen, I'm glad to come here and have this crowd you raised for me. I appreciate it very much. (Laughter.) Ladies and gentlemen, 50 years ago, when our nation emerged from the crucible of World War II, we faced a political and military landscape that had been forever changed. Our European allies were devastated, the Iron Curtain was descending, the values for which we had fought so dearly seemed under siege from Europe to Asia. At that moment, only the United States had the strength to uphold the struggle for freedom around the world. And though our people were eager to turn their energies back home, we rose to the awesome responsibility at hand, creating the institutions that would protect our security and promote the cause of liberty and peace, and eventually enable us to prevail in the Cold War and enjoy the conditions that exist today, when, for the first time in human history, more than one-half the people on this planet live under governments of their own choosing. In 1947, 50 years ago, the four essential players in that struggle came to life: the Central Intelligence Agency, the National Security Council, the Department of Defense, and the United States Air Force. For the record, I think it should be noted that President Truman signed this act aboard his so-called "Sacred Cow," the C-54 presidential aircraft that served back then as Air Force One. In case you're wondering, President Truman was just like me --he didn't have an escape pod on his plane either. (Laughter.) I might say, as long as the Air Force is flying me, I don't feel the need for a way out. (Applause.) Fifty years later, our Air Force remains a world-class force without peer, thanks to the extraordinary men and women who serve in it. Your soaring spirit, your dedication, your skill have helped America to master the skies. You've made us more secure. You've made the world a safer place. We have seen your courage and expertise in time of war. We have seen your compassion and sacrifice in time of peace. We have seen the around-the-clock flights of the Berlin airlift. We saw you in MiG Alley in Korea. We saw the longest humanitarian airlift in history during the war in Bosnia. We saw you in the skies over Baghdad in Desert Storm. And just a few days ago, we saw the nine crew members of the C-141 perish off the coast of Africa after carrying a team of experts to help support our de-mining efforts in Namibia. We have seen you rise to the challenges of our time, from the development of the air expeditionary forces that give me an invaluable tool in times of crisis, to last week's deployment of Commando Solo aircraft to help prevent the enemies of peace in Bosnia from sabotaging the Dayton Agreement. We have seen your vision and commitment to excel as you sharpen your technological age to dominate the battlefields of the future. And perhaps most important, we see in the 12 outstanding Airmen of the Year the best traditions, the best hope and the brightest future of the Air Force -- the leadership and talent and dedication that make you second to none. I want you to know on behalf of all Americans, I am proud of them and proud of all of you who serve in the United States Air Force. (Applause.) To the pilots, the flight crews, the Red Horse engineers, the technicians, the security police, the space and missile operators -- all who contribute to the strength of America in the skies, and to all the families who support you, our nation is profoundly grateful. Today is a well-earned day of celebration for your golden legacy of achievement. But as you know better than anyone, there is never a day of rest. We pay tribute to the last 50 years with a determination to look to our Air Force men and women to help us meet the challenges of the next 50 years. We know we can always count on you; we always have. Aim high and reach for new horizons. Thank you, and God bless you all. (Applause.)

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