December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Decense v0.10 alpha available
by Ray Cromwell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I've made Decense v0.10 alpha available publically. There's a few non-critical things to be fixed and plenty of features to be added. I have other obligations at the moment, so I can't spare anymore time right now to polish it up. If you're a perl hacker, take a look at it. The Decense Project homepage is http://www.clark.net/pub/rjc/decense.html You can retrieve the tarfile there. Have fun, and Write Code! -Ray

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does NSA have jurisdiction over sound-eavesdropping?
by Alan Horowitz 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Some conversations can be intercepted as sound waves. Just build a sensitive and directional enough microphone. Does NSA have control over that mission? I'm talking about outside the USA.

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STRANGE SOUNDS OF SI
by kevin.berry＠chrysalis.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

* Carbons sent to: Ses(a)tipper.oit.unc.edu CC: cypherpunks(a)toad.com -=> Quoting Ses(a)tipper.oit.unc.edu to Kevin Berry <=- > The Strange Sounds of Silence > > Has anyone else out there noticed the strange sounds of silence > emmanating from the american print and broadcast media concerning the > rider attached to the Telecommunications Act recently signed by > President Clinton known as the CDA (Communications Decency Act)? > Se> Are you sure? The coverage has been wall to wall out here (Bay area); Se> front page above the fold, business pages, computer columns, Se> editorials and editorial cartoons. Apparently it's the same level of Se> coverage back in the RTP. Se> What part of the country are you in? I guess the coverage is different Se> in the major geek zones like the bay area and RTP I know that in the Dallas/Fort Worth, Texas area, there has been no coverage whatsoever. [Using PGPWave 1.22a Beta. This message written on 2/11/1996 at 14:34:56.] ... If it works, rip it apart and find out why! ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.21 [NR]

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Re: Web MIA? (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: >From owner-advanced-sl(a)list.pitt.edu Sun Feb 11 16:38:21 1996 X-Authentication-Warning: list.srv.cis.pitt.edu: majordom set sender to owner-advanced-sl using -f Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 15:07:53 -0700 (MST) From: Hundsdorfer Timothy <hundsdor(a)ucsub.Colorado.EDU> To: advanced-sl(a)list.pitt.edu Subject: Re: Web MIA? In-Reply-To: <01I134RUAVAQ000IVC(a)suvax1.stetson.edu> Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960211150617.15918A-100000(a)ucsub.Colorado.EDU> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-advanced-sl(a)list.pitt.edu Precedence: bulk Rusty and all: The University has adopted an "academic pages only" policy, so the ASL page died a gravy-sucking death. Both my page and Bahadir's page dying within a month! It's a freaking consipiracy!

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"Helping the clueless" on crypto-privacy: the Zundelhoaxers
by Rich Graves 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I seem to have introduced one of the leading white supremacist activists to PGP and cypherpunk remailers recently, perhaps because of my promise to archive their mailing list publicly and spoof messages from them if they didn't. I'm so proud. I assume the ADL and allied organizations will be learning more about PGP as well. Type bits/keyID Date User ID pub 1024/C01741A1 1996/02/01 Don Black <dblack(a)jbx.com> ^^^^^^^^^^ Tom Metzger <metzger(a)cts.com> and Neo-Nazi straight woman Ingrid Rimland <ezundel(a)cts.com> do not yet use PGP, but I'm working on it. The message below (Stormfront-L is Don's moderated mailing list for "Aryan" activists, which can be quite entertaining -- subscription instructions at tail) has a few technical misconceptions that should probably be corrected, though of course it would be Bad to cross-pollinate the lists. I've also created and propagated PGP keys for each of Don Black's other email addresses as a way of teaching him about key identification, propagation, and signing. There was an earlier message on Stormfront-L from an alpha.c2.org nym who was having trouble. I assume Sameer helped him out. So anyway, here's the message. I have a few more comments after the included message. - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 13:01:02 GMT From: Stormfront-l <stormfront-l(a)stormfront.org> To: llurch(a)networking.stanford.edu Subject: Re: a message on Stormfront-L NOTE: THIS MESSAGE WAS ORIGINALLY ADDRESSED TO DON BLACK From: Secret Squirrel Date: Sun, 11 Feb 96 13:01:02 GMT Subject: Re: a message on Stormfront-L BTW it is a good idea to sign your own key, as this helps defeat fraudulent use of your pgp public key. (I don't know how it's done, but read about the problem on alt.security.pgp). I've signed my key twice, once with my 1024 and again with my 2048 bit key. I saw a message on Stormfront-L saying that the 'international version' was the best PGP system, however this is only for use outside the USA. It might be best for nationalists in the US to note this in order to avoid any problems. (It does have 2048 bit security, but 2.6.2 can generate 2047 bits, so it isn't that bad!) Also people should use a _minimum_ of 1024 bits as smaller numbers have been 'cracked'. In a message to Stormfront-L re: White Wolf, it was stated that there was problems posting to that address. I can confirm that there is interference with the remailers and pseudo-anonymous mailers. I believe that neither of these systems is secure. In my case I found that one could subscribe to your list, but the moment one posted to it, the account was blocked. Further that anonymous messages sent to the list via a remailer (no a/c) would get through on the first attempt, but not afterwards. This suggests that the enemy inform the sysops of the remailers, and subsequently posting is blocked from those remailers. Further I suspect that the remailers keep 'message in - - message out' ID logs, which means that (if they take sufficient interest) a message could be subsquently traced back through a chain of remailers. There is a method of finding out where messages come from, it is called (I believe) 'packet tracing'. It is possible that I've experienced this with pseudo-anonymous posts to your list. I set up an account with alpha.c2.org via remailers (they wouldn't know my real address) however the messages were stripped from your list, and large numbers of 'packets' of the same size were sent out, i.e. my reply-block only. These packets can be traced through remailers to an address (by people with sufficient computing power). Believe me the enemy is so concerned with the white-nationalist movement, they want to know exactly who is posting. If you search amongst the web sites dealing with security, the details of tracing etc. are fully documented (unfortunately I've lost the addresses due to problems with my web browser cache). The use of anon accounts is useful to the sender, however people who reply will, no doubt, have there addresses recorded at alpha.c2.org etc. All mail sent by nationalists to their comrades should be in PGP, so even if their adds. are recorded the contents will be (mostly) hidden. Although the anon people may hit back by blocking the a/c! The anon server at anon.penet.fi is basically useless for posting to the alt.nationalism group. All my messages have been returned 'unwanted group'. I've also found that the mail-to-news gateways won't accept traffic to those groups either. Essentially the enemy has denied people anonymous access to nationalist usenet groups. For a short period my ISP blocked direct posting to alt.politics.nationalism.white, but for some reason this has been restored. I hope the above has been of interest to you, and if you wish to forward the info. to the list etc., please anonymize it. Regards, - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: Multiple recipients of the Stormfront-L Mailing List Host: Don Black <dblack(a)mail.stormfront.org> Finger for PGP public key. To unsubscribe, send e-mail to 'listserv(a)stormfront.org' with the line 'unsubscribe Stormfront-L' in the message BODY, not the subject. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - ----- Processed with Listserv v2.83 for Wildcat v4 - ---------- End Forwarded message ---------- I like Nazis and racists. I want to learn more about them. Where they live, how they make their money, who they call, and so on. All completely above-ground, of course. By the way, does anyone know of any security deficiencies in this Wildcat Listserv software that would allow someone to obtain the list membership? They seem to be assuming that it's a secret, which IMO is a bad policy. They should all move to anonymous remailers or, better, carrier pigeons. If you know of any sich problems, please send me encrypted mail, and Cc Don. Of course, you can't be absolutely sure which key is Don's... Maybe you should use the ultra-secure Enigma code instead of PGP. "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty." "We hold these truths to be self-evident..." "Fight hate speech with more speech." "To the ends of the earth I will follow thee." "The pen is mightier than the sword." - -rich Institute for Ernst Zundel Revisionism http://36.190.0.210/~llurch/Not_By_Me_Not_My_Views/ "First, bring down Zundel's suffering in terms of numbers and events, both real and imagined, to what it really was, not what they say it was, what they exploit for their own political, financial, and geopolitical purposes." -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMR6AzY3DXUbM57SdAQFPqgP/VUS9aydQjv6kmJc/fbg6exXQRl17RTKb EaUNftVUZJyMYLpOYg0X/UFH19fpBPQnbw1FFOiOMqSyc3pXtINUMpJZ1mmLI8Ro ZopVLS01d15cx+nZfVTjVF68eGthDgjKKAPZ/FXsn8/8tQtfq6jZsaDNBldWPjAX hlWEctOfdKo= =hck9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Strange Sounds of Silence
by lunaslide＠loop.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Alan Pugh writes: > > Has anyone else out there noticed the strange sounds of silence > > emmanating from the american print and broadcast media concerning the > > rider attached to the Telecommunications Act recently signed by > > President Clinton known as the CDA (Communications Decency Act)? > >I always hear it referred to as "provisions which would ban >pornography on the Internet" or "new laws that prohibit sending >X-rated materials to children on the Internet". Same here. The only dissenting voice was ABC and even then it wasn't the expose that we would hope for. I live in Southern California. lunaslide "Prohibition... goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes... A prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded." - -- Abraham Lincoln On the meridian of time there is no injustice, only the poetry of motion creating the illusion of truth and drama. Henry Miller ________________________________________________________________ -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCPAzEX3QEAAAEEAOGQjhnqGH29pO1WDaXs5GFOVPhCBWyYEk9XEwRmscjveWzH AhA6DeOA480zWNqQURyqE2yPmR8WzT+OXYqmeiQiycKyFA41Vs/Ruf+gXXxe7uXS L5BK3K8oKbfoH0D5/TAkMT4r6BprXFQz4pFc3gY2SSaSPElpMjKHaKBsRsyRABEB AAG0HUplZmYgQ29ubiA8bHVuYXNsaWRlQGxvb3AuY29tiQCVAwUQMRffHzKHaKBs RsyRAQGNhwP9E9xEZ9/LCKnhgtnrqgD7pDoXG2pCy8FoyfFjoImGkG+jF1wELXmB Z0mf8F8CgYkys0mif1XeGDMelr1gzlZAm6LgQt4kcvztMW/aRLn18QP+iwltVT/L p8D37mitOjvuk46sWgAChIaPPPIeg/EaYQjQkmlpWKsEYIoTRy+E8mU= =4Gku -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

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Re: Deafening silence [was Re: Need a "warning" graphic...]
by Deranged Mutant 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Jim Ray wrote: > Further, has anyone else noticed a deafening silence on the subject of > a (supposedly) wished-for line-item veto power of presidents? It seems > to me that the Dornan and CDA-type provisions of huge bills are line- > items, aren't they? No. Line-items refer to budgetary allocations. If it were part of a budget bill that allocated monies, then a line-item veto could zap it. Those folks really *don't* want a line-item veto now that a different party could use it. I doubt it would ever be more than a rhetorical tool since it would limit the allocated pork... even be used as a form of political blackmail. ObCrypto: None. Rob. - --- [This message has been signed by an auto-signing service. A valid signature means only that it has been received at the address corresponding to the signature and forwarded.] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Gratis auto-signing service iQBFAwUBMR6YDSoZzwIn1bdtAQGJNQGAnu5thLwYKNLS/jowaZSwIzQltUCSbgg7 H7D2XDVIJuf/gvpt/cV3R/6VcwE4tvCb =TtYy -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: "Rights"
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:12 PM 2/10/96 -0500, jf_avon(a)citenet.net (Jean-Francois Avon (JFA Technologies, QC, Canada)) wrote: >Ed.Carp(a)linux.org, ecarp(a)netcom.com wrote: > >>What happens when there *is* no remedy, when there are no other sites to >>go to, when there are no employers who would refrain from violating an >>employee's privacy? What then? > >Easy! Either you do not get on the net or you start your own ISP service. >It might cost money. i.e. requires work, but it is feasible. Of course, in a market environment, you can do better than that. Because there are almost always other people who want what you want, and barring major government interference, there are ways to find them and usually people interested in offering you and your fellow-travellers the service you want. Most of the time, there are economies of scale that make it cheaper to get the service together rather than each doing it yourself, and you can decide whether to do it as a cooperative or buy it from the vendor who's supporting the bunch of you. ObCrypto: Even _with_ major government interference, there will be ways to find your fellow-travellers. Anonymously. #-- # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com / billstewart(a)attmail.com +1-415-442-2215 # http://www.idiom.com/~wcs Pager +1-408-787-1281

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Re: Strange Sounds of Silence
by Rich Salz 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>implementing the basic encoding rules, used in the PCKS and X.509 - >can someone give me a pointer to where I can find a >copy of v3 online? It's not available online. ISO specs are hardcopy (and hard currency :) only. /r$

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Re: Strange Sounds of Silence
by frantz＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Alan Pugh writes: > Has anyone else out there noticed the strange sounds of silence > emmanating from the american print and broadcast media concerning the > rider attached to the Telecommunications Act recently signed by > President Clinton known as the CDA (Communications Decency Act)? There seems to be a wide difference in the way the major media is reporting this story. For example, the editorial cartoon in today's (Sunday) San Jose (California) Mercury News: Picture: A man dressed in the style of the American Revolution sitting at a computer. In the background are a two pictures in ovel frames. Next to him on the table are a can of Pepsi and a candle stick. He is typing at the keyboard. The thought baloon above the keyboard says (I substutite XXXXXX for the areas that are drawn as a censor's block blackout): "Dear Congressman -- You XXXXXX XXXXXX have really done it this time! This XXXXXX XXXXXXX telecommunications bill with its XXXXXX XXXXXXX indecency provision is a XXXXXX attack on free speech! You should have your XXXXXXX XXXX dipped in tar and feathered! tjefferson(a)aol.com" Of course the Mercury News a couple of weeks ago announced that it was going to try to provide first class coverage of cyberspace issues. I give it at least a B+ between its coverage of the CDA and the front page interview with Rich Graves and discussion of the alternate sites to get around the German censorship of Webcom. Bill

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