December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

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17 Dec '03

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Re: Taxless society concerns]
by Omegaman 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Thu, Sep 11, 1997 at 12:10:41AM -0600, Warpy wrote: > First off. In such a society, who cares for the old, the sick, and the > infirm? How is such care going to be payed for? How will basic services be > maintained without the necessary taxes required to pay for them? Family. Friends. What basic services are you referring to? > Now before you start yelling at me and calling me a government > sympathiser, let me say that i am disgusted at the amount of money spent > by governments around the world on military equipment and personnel. If > such a taxless society were to eventuate there would be *hopefully* that > much more money floating around to help those who need it most. The money won't be "floating around," it will be in the pockets of individuals instead of being paid out as taxes. > But the question remains. In such a taxless society, and little or no > government, how are those less fortunate than us going to be cared for? You should do more examining of Libertarian resources on the net. And do some thinking on your own. Start with the presumption that individuals and private organizations can operate more efficiently than the government. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Omegaman <mailto:omegam@cmq.com>|"When they kick out your front door, PGP Key fingerprint = | How are you gonna come? 6D 31 C3 00 77 8C D1 C2 | With your hands upon your head, 59 0A 01 E3 AF 81 94 63 | Or on the trigger of your gun?" Send email with "get key" as the| -- The Clash, "Guns of Brixton" "Subject:" to get my public key | _London_Calling_ , 1979 ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: "random" number seeds vs. Netscape
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 06:29 PM 9/23/95 -0400, you wrote: >Can you take the time between two effectively async events, and use the >low order bits of same? >For example, time between a netverk pack arriving and the next tick of >the TOD clock? And/or the system's disk IO or such? You might get some entropy there, but you can get more (though perhaps not measurably more) by using the values of both instead. For instance rand = MD5(rand, lowbits(T(clock) - T(packet))) vs rand = MD5(rand, T(clock), T(packet)) As long as you're not overoptimistic about how many real bits you've gotten, might as well actually use the version that keeps more low-quality bits than try to improve them. Also, do watch out for things that aren't really asynchronous, e.g. the next clock tick will probably happen at some even multiple of 1000000/Hz microseconds. #--- # Bill Stewart, Freelance Information Architect, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # Phone +1-510-247-0664 Pager/Voicemail 1-408-787-1281 #---

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Hello
by Xavier Naveira 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hello!!!!

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Re: The problem of playing politics with our constitutional rights]
by Omegaman 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Fri, Sep 12, 1997 at 12:06:35AM -0800, John Smith wrote: > > Why do you say that? Clipper was defeated. People all over the net > united and opposed it. Now there is this new threat, but at least > defeating Clipper bought some time. There is no reason the same > thing can't happen again. > > Sometimes I think cypherpunks *want* crypto to be outlawed. No. Cypherpunks *expect* it will be outlawed. And it will be yet another largely uneforceable restriction. Sure you can run around and trumpet about how bad it is that your government is going to outlaw cryptography. You can rant at the fundamental unconstitutionality of it. You can try to convince legislators who don't even know what a mouse is that outlawing crypto is a bad idea. If it makes you feel good and you think its a valuable effort, knock yourself out. Personally, I'd like to see more disposable remailers, more stego,continued development of the eternity server and similar ideas, and an implementation of untraceable anonymous digital cash. (We have until Jan. 1, 1999) Phil Z. didn't release PGP to show how much he disliked Clipper or join in some unified opposition. He released it to beat the government's efforts to the punch and get unrestricted strong crypto into the hands of anyone who wanted it -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Omegaman <mailto:omegam@cmq.com>|"When they kick out your front door, PGP Key fingerprint = | How are you gonna come? 6D 31 C3 00 77 8C D1 C2 | With your hands upon your head, 59 0A 01 E3 AF 81 94 63 | Or on the trigger of your gun?" Send email with "get key" as the| -- The Clash, "Guns of Brixton" "Subject:" to get my public key | _London_Calling_ , 1979 ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Any talk of limiting _existing_ crypto? (fwd)]
by Omegaman 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Fri, Sep 12, 1997 at 12:00:43AM -0500, Jim Choate wrote: > > How about the system file i/o level? Sort of like TCFS (Transparent Crytpographic File System) for Linux? Is there such a thing for Windows? NT? Mac? If so I've heard of none. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Omegaman <mailto:omegam@cmq.com>|"When they kick out your front door, PGP Key fingerprint = | How are you gonna come? 6D 31 C3 00 77 8C D1 C2 | With your hands upon your head, 59 0A 01 E3 AF 81 94 63 | Or on the trigger of your gun?" Send email with "get key" as the| -- The Clash, "Guns of Brixton" "Subject:" to get my public key | _London_Calling_ , 1979 ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Let sleeping dogs lay]
by Omegaman 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Thu, Sep 11, 1997 at 05:04:52PM -0700, Tim May wrote: > > "Nothing good can come out of crypto legislation." > > --said by several of us over the past year > > > The big mistake was ever introducing the SAFE and Pro-CODE bills, as it > brought the NSA and FBI out of their warrens and into the warrens of > Congress. Without any crypto bills at all, it is possible (though by no > means certain) that no legislation at all would have been introduced this > year. And the longer the wait the better. Some have complained that the status quo situation of export restrictions was unacceptable. Yet the spread of crypto has largely been unrestrained -- a stay of execution so to speak. The longer the status quo remains, the more ubiquitous crypto becomes and future legislative efforts are undermined. That said, I think these organizations made a strategic error. Had a draconian bill been introduced first, opposition probably would have played out differently in the press. We saw this with Clipper. I believe commercial interests played a large part in the push for legislation. Just another player in the game, I suppose. > But once SAFE and Pro-CODE were out there, on the table, the forces in > favor of a surveillance state began their lobbying in earnest, giving the > infamous "if you only knew what we knew" scare tactic pitches. Last minute > amendments and even complete bill replacements are easier to slip in than a > Big Brother bill from the gitgo. Sure enough, the tide is now moving > swiftly toward a future far, far, far worse than the mere annoyance of > export controls. You almost sound surprised. Did they really think Congressman would understand crypto? Congressmen _do_ understand law and order and protecting poor defenseless children from porn. They understand preventing "another Oklahoma. And it's an easy sell to their constituencies, too. The average schmoe may indeed *want* more freedom, but he also he wants to be protected. And he also has a limited understanding of the equation. The easiest explanation wins, of course. > to prison." The current language is of course a full-blown disaster. > Pandora's box was opened by SAFE and Pro-CODE. > > And so here we are. Multiple committees in both houses jockeying to see who > can clamp down the hardest on crypto. > > CDT, EPIC, and all the other Beltway insiders ought to think about this > mess. Sometimes it's better just to let sleeping dogs lay. Or lie. Or > whatever. Some people just don't get it. You'll never gain more freedom through more legislation. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Omegaman <mailto:omegam@cmq.com>|"When they kick out your front door, PGP Key fingerprint = | How are you gonna come? 6D 31 C3 00 77 8C D1 C2 | With your hands upon your head, 59 0A 01 E3 AF 81 94 63 | Or on the trigger of your gun?" Send email with "get key" as the| -- The Clash, "Guns of Brixton" "Subject:" to get my public key | _London_Calling_ , 1979 ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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Apology to Netscape.
by carolann＠censored.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Jeff Weintstein corrected me with: > This is what our press release said: > > An updated version of Netscape Navigator 1.1 for Mac OS > and Unix and Netscape Navigator 1.2 for Windows 3.1 and > Windows 95 will be available for downloading by existing > customers on the Internet next week. My apologies for the misquote. It only then makes the trading facts worse. Love Always, Carol Anne ps On the asides kind of things, do you realize the Netscape stock base of 5,000,000 shares is not a big sharebase? Coca-Cola's is 1,300,000,000. And by standards, your stock is really unstable. If Coca-Cola moves 3 points there'll be a trading halt, for the buying/selling imbalance will be too much. Even if only for 1 min. The trading halt gets the good or bad news onto "The Street". -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMGUCaYrpjEWs1wBlAQF9ZAP6AkMCsveSU/E8KFDi84urnAR2KlXT42rS l+9tHh33ZWbM6VmHUMkqelM11vc7zU1eWLhXlYHaoOqwGuTef9irQigbnr+HwYKL Px9480/Chm59RWCG6j4pp4d0xUQO9Pj0lbpIecn72eDYReRIgh5+MU0jOCNdUNLe RvP7XvYI570= =Nb9y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Member Internet Society - Certified BETSI Programmer - Webmistress *********************************************************************** Carol Anne Braddock (cab8) carolann(a)censored.org 206.42.112.96 My Homepage The Cyberdoc *********************************************************************** ------------------ PGP.ZIP Part [017/713] ------------------- M8H,),S$8G>&.WP(8IRA`-M['+`Q%&_C"">5-F%LX@<_Q$;*P'',Q$Z/AA[8M MF=O0H+*%(-S%&>S%+FS&<LS%3(Q&#W1"<]2%`H^;,]^1C$'HBN8PX$4SYAU^ MPGD<Q0ZLA0D+,`MCT!LA**4M[-JPAK9F?40!AJ,CW"'%DR#:'9?Q)3[%<DQ` ------------------------------------------------------------- for next chunk to export --> http://dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/export/

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by eyes＠amazon.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Distribute a key, go to prison.
by harka＠nycmetro.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- -=> Quoting In:tcmay@got.net to Harka <=- In> "Distribute a key, go to prison." In> Simple, by declaring that public keys themselves are crypto In> material, as the Brits did in their Trusted Third Parties In> draft proposal, and hence declaring that distribution of keys In> after the effective date of the legislation constitutes a In> violation. Give someone your key, either by placing it on In> keyservers or even by mailing it to them, and one has just In> "distributed" crypto. In> This will make the public key infrastructure essentially In> useless, as the public key servers go down, as corporations In> yank any directories they may have, and (possibly) as In> individuals stop putting PGP or S/MIME fingerprints or In> pointers in their messages. But then the same thing will happen as with "censored" web pages. Mirrors of key servers will be all over the world and render such laws kinda useless. You do have a point, however. I was thinking about a possible nightmare-scenario similar to that: Remailers (as crypto-providers and distributors) will be taken down in a syncronized effort in at least the western world. Non-government-approved crypto outlawed simultaneously. A few highly publicized cases of "violators" who use crypto anyway. Enough to scare the other 95 percent into complying. Once that happens it will be too late...at least for a few decades. Therefore crypto needs to be distributed and _used_ on a wide scale. Maybe spamming the Net (once :)) with PGP will at least make a nice publicity-stunt. Instead of "Adopt your legislator"-stuff it should be "Adopt your local computer-fellows" to use PGP, Remailers etc.. Those who have the resources should implement new remailers, key servers etc.. Cypherpunks don't whine! Cypherpunks have no need to be defensive! Cypherpunks write code! Ciao Harka ... "Use a Cipher - Be Free!" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBNBsDNzltEBIEF0MBAQGxTAf/WkPXY3Or4Ces2N0PGfmrdQL7G7lqqjyw AVZVJv4/gsSXuiIoRIOh7GjVBWRMX4xli1835cvXrwwnQnw1YmOcaMBHLNvQ6kVT FVv3BVc8rcP5l5uaqJsByWHjXDa7kmuRGrmzP6mv7ZBQRbaiqGZp0E2vDZpxjhND he3HLCSR2TIzyR/o1pzdwFQzvfOSZh42yU5ssFLEcF5C0L/1KYMUJxyYYQ7aZoJN vFBwO5rx+nk+csRRNGVoUTDZ3NcZWf46h21+Gc8BF2L4zQN/3p4FJUswBHEFO87Q hqhA10lSrHdH2Lfb3ypFPlee7L1oaAx0T8dgBds/51R8geMp7NwI8Q== =It/0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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