December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Tim Throws a "Leaner" / Re: Tim Speaks the Truth / Re: Tim Misfires / Re: Joichi Ito as a Junior Policeman
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Joichi Ito wrote: > As for Tim's message... I keep worrying (when I am in Japan) that I'm too > radical, so it's nice to hear from someone who is really hardcore to put > a wimp like me in my place. ;-P Actually, when Tim puts someone in what he considers to be their place, it usually involves the purchase of a tombstone. Tim May wrote: > Unlike "Toto," who claims to be "Truthmonger," I speak the truth. "Am I Toto, dreaming I am TruthMonger, or TruthMonger, dreaming I am Toto?" > At 5:12 AM -0700 8/3/97, Joichi Ito wrote: > >so they probably are pretty militaristic), Japan does not have the > >equivalent of the NSA. It really is in Japanese national security interests > Wise up, Joichi. You live in society more totalitarian than anything we > fear. Japanese society has long been very rule-oriented, in large part as a result of the country's geography, population and history. A "No Farting" sign which might reek of totalitarianism when placed on the open range, might well seem less so when placed in a two-man tent occupied by six people. Environment, geography and the history of a a country, society and its people, all play a part in the degree to which an individual will view their personal position in regard to the society and government around them. And each will perceive the way in which they feel they can best promote their beliefs within their society and government. > Japanese citizen-units under video surveillance and afraid to speak > out. It seemed to me that after Jim Bell's arrest, most of the posts to the list posted an almost-standard disclaimer: "Actually, although I hardly knew the man, thought he was a _loon_, and _disagreed_ with most of what he had to say..." > And surveillance and espionage technology deployed by your fascist > government--a term I mean literally, not casually--will worsen things > dramatically. > The only "cooperation" with them is to seek their annihilation. Government aside, if I was forced by fate to live in Japan, my first act would probably be to annihilate 80% of the population, just to get enough elbow room to negate the need for so damn many rules, both from society and government. Of course, the same could probably be said for New York City, from my persepective. > And nothing but mischief will come out any meetings with government on > "crypto policy," as their goals can never be our goals. At least in the > U.S., despite obvious flaws, we have a "Congress shall make no law" > provision which _tends_ to make government meddling in speech, such as > meddling in crypto, more difficult. I hope that the "flag" Tim is wrapping himself in isn't the same one that he was burning yesterday. {Not that I'm accusing Tim of being purposely deceitful. It's just that when we throw a "leaner" instead of a "ringer," they sometimes lean in opposite directions.} Seriously, I believe in the original goals of organizations such as the EFF and CDT, etc, but I also believe that their leaders should be assassinated every few years in order to allow the promotion of people whose senses are not so hardened by D.C. that they no longer recognize a "stench" when they smell it. (ibid, the Constitution and our beloved Legislators.) Joichi Ito sounds very sincere about his commitment to act in a way he feels will promote cypherpunkish viewpoints within his system of government. I can't help but believe, however, that his efforts will ultimately only serve to delay the creeping spread of tyrannical cancer in our societies and our governments. I tend to lean more toward Tim's viewpoint, that there comes a point when the best option is surgery (a radical Legislat-ectomy?), but I would not go so far as to suggest that others should not pursue other treatments which they think may stem the tide of the disease. I hope Joichi Ito paid enough attention to the OKC bombing to realize that some surgeons are less skilled than others, and that there is a risk in remaining too long in close proximity with cancerous tissue. DreamMonger "There's something wrong when I'm a TruthMonger under an increasing number of personas."

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Re: server congestion
by Donald M. Kitchen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Christian Wettergren: >is if we start allocating more blocks at a time, lets >say 2-4 blocks each time. Wouldn't that help? Heh heh heh Somebody should tell that to the guy who's pulling them down 500 at a time. I have to settle for 32 x 7 at a time, in order to manage runtime at 9 hours. And the clever thing is, I have to stay connected to all 7 machines in order to keep running. Good thing there's an incremental notice, so I can restart if I lose carrier. You know, this is really fun. Too bad the prize isn't something really cool, like a free wastebasket in case Windoze 95 comes my way... Sorry, just felt like it was my turn to babble... Don

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by announce＠lists.zdnet.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Joichi gives up / Tim Throws a "Leaner" / Re: Tim Speaks the Truth / Re: Tim Misfires / Re: Joichi Ito as a Junior Policeman
by Joichi Ito 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

OK. I give up. I think DreamMonger's last comment about at least sort of believing in my intentions is about the best it will get for me here. Tim, you're in my killfile now too so I'm not going to respond directly to your comments. Now at least when I am going through the meatgrinder, I won't know if it is a cypherpunk or a Japanese fascist who's sending me through. At 05:46 97/08/04 +0200, Anonymous wrote: > I hope Joichi Ito paid enough attention to the OKC bombing to realize > that some surgeons are less skilled than others, and that there is a > risk in remaining too long in close proximity with cancerous tissue. Some Japanese conservatives probably think *I* am the cancerous tissue that their people shouldn't hang out with... - Joi -- Finger jito(a)nsm.eccosys.com or jito(a)garage.co.jp for PGP Key Fingerprint for RSA PGP Key ID 0x0EE23A2D 0D3A 7AAA 3DA8 E7B3 3AF1 C6FA B7ED D834 Fingerprint for DSS/Diffie-Hellman PGP Key ID 0x2D9461F1 58F3 CA9A EFB8 EB9D DF18 6B16 E48D AF2A 2D94 61F1 Home Page: http://domino.garage.co.jp/jito/joihome.nsf To subscribe to my personal mailing list send mailto:friends-subscribe@ito.com

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Linux brutessl client
by ghio＠cmu.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I get 11100 keys/sec with Linux/gcc 2.5.8 on a 486/66, optimized with -O2 and -fomit-frame-pointer. -fforce-mem and -funroll-loops made the program run more slowly. I also tried -ffast-math -finline-functions -fforce-addr -fcaller-saves which seemed to make no difference. Now maybe when they get the server working again I can actually try running this. :(

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Cypherpunks Santa Cruz meeting/party
by Christian Wettergren 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi! Anyone in the Palo Alto area going to Tim's who would like to give me a ride there? If so, drop me a line. And Tim, take that as indication that I'm interested in participating in the meeting. :-) /Christian Wettergren Nordic Viking Sweden

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Re: Tim Throws a "Leaner" / Re: Tim Speaks the Truth (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 22:02:24 -0700 > From: Tim May <tcmay(a)got.net> > Subject: Re: Tim Throws a "Leaner" / Re: Tim Speaks the Truth > As for Joichi's message quoted above, he should hope to hell that he wakes > up and realizes that not even in Japan can journalists--which is what I > thought he once was, or claimed to be--serve on Ministry committees to > decide how citizen-units may communicate! > > Any journalist in Europe or in the U.S. would be seen as having irreparably > compromised his journalistic objectivity by serving on such a panel! And > properly so, of course. As long as they were representing their personal opinions and not acting as a journalist (ie being paid by a 3rd party) and they disclose the action there would be compromise on objectivity. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | Participation requires more than just bitching! | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http:// www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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server congestion?
by Christian Wettergren 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Couldn't one take advantage of the 50.000 mistake, by setting up a second server for that space. I guess things will screw up when the first server reaches FFFF, as indicated earlier. What would be nice is if one could divide up the key between servers also. Another thing that might decrease the load on the server is if we start allocating more blocks at a time, lets say 2-4 blocks each time. Wouldn't that help? /Christian

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Suggested book
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, Somebody (I'm too lazy to check the archives) mentioned "The Soveriegn Individual" by Davisdson & Rees-Mogg. I happened to stumble across it in the bookstore so I bought it. While I am only about a 3rd through it and clearly disagree with several points the main thesis is worth examining. Strongly suggested for any cpunk. The Sovereign Individual: How to survive and thrive during the collapse of the welfare state J.D. Davidson & Lord W. Rees-Mogg ISBN 0-684-81007-7 $25.00 ____________________________________________________________________ | | | Participation requires more than just bitching! | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http:// www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Re: Article in Time Magazine
by Kari Laine 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> How many exported software products might have backdoors, > vulnerabilities, and hidden procedures which are harmfull if ever > activated? I am not saying it is so I am just speculating Windows ? Microcode of big host systems like the one from IBM? Each mainframe comes with a line attached. Customer typically don't have the faintest idea what is going on that line. I know one customer who stuck a printer there and though - now we will see ... well he ended up with printouts he did not have the faintest idea of their context. Now does anyone has real evidence of possible backdoors? Best Regards Kari Kari Laine buster(a)klaine.pp.fi LAN Vision Oy Tel. +358-0-502 1947 Sinikalliontie 14 Fax +358-0-524 149 02630 ESPOO BBS +358-0-502 1576/1456 FINLAND

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