December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Scientology and police visit XS4ALL Amsterdam
by announce 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: XS4ALL Internet Postbus 22864 1100 DJ Amsterdam tel: +31 20 6222885 fax: +31 20 6222753 PRESS RELEASE ------------- Police and members of Scientology church enter offices of XS4ALL ================================================================ Amsterdam - thuesday september 5, 1995. Today at about 14:00, XS4ALL was visited by Mr. S. Braan, bailiff. He was acting on behalf of the Religious Technology Centre, better known as the Scientology Church, or Scientology for short. He was assisted by a local police officer and Mr. Hermans from the 'Nauta-Dutilh' legal firm that represents Scientology in The Netherlands. Also present were two computer experts (Mr. Ootjes and Mr. Van Suchtelen) a locksmith (to enter had we not been present) and two American employees of Scientology, Mr. Weightman and Ms. Jenssen. Scientology is filing for seizure of XS4ALL's computer equipment. Under dutch law, this means that a bailiff comes in to record your assets. In real-life, the computer-experts that were present have recorded the types and serial numbers of all the computers in our offices. They did not take any equipment, the continuity of XS4ALL's services is not in jeopardy. What is this all about? ----------------------- The Scientology Church claims that the XS4ALL anonymous remailer was used to disseminate documents over the Internet to which the church holds the legal copyright. This has led the church to ask the president of the district court of Amsterdam to grant permission for this seizure as a prelude to legal procedures concerning damages suffered by the church. The remailer in question has been disabled more than 2 months ago. During the visit of Scientology to XS4ALL this afternoon, the remailer was not the subject of any conversation. The organisation seemed totally preoccupied with the information about Scientology that one of our users has put on his home page. Part of this information is said to be a file to which Scientology holds the copyright. If we were to delete the file in question on the spot, they were willing to drop the seizure. Responsability of Internet Providers ------------------------------------ XS4ALL categorically denies any responsability for contents of users' homepages. The users decide for themselves what is on their homepage. Since XS4ALL does not edit the homepages and has no mechanism of control over the contents we strongly feel that the users themselves are responsible for what they say on their homepage. This whole affair demonstrates the need for clarity concerning the legal postion of Internet Providers. We are shocked that our offices can be invaded bij freshly flown-in U.S. cult members. If we as Internet providers are held responsible for what our users say, that will undoubtebly kill freedom of speech on the net. Scare-tactics ------------- XS4ALL is not alone in receiving this kind of attention from Scientology. Scientology, a semi-religious multinational, is at war with a number of people on the Internet. A non-organized group of people on the net has started to openly discuss the activities of the church. Until recently, the church has always managed to supress critical voices by means of sheer intimidation and by engaging in endless legal battle. One of the people that Scientology has a problem with is 'fonss', an XS4ALL user that publishes the F.A.C.T.-net Kit on his home page (http://www.xs4all.nl/~fonss) This kit (which can be found on numerous homepages all over the Internet) consists of a large number of documents that show the true face of Scientology. One of these documents is a piece to which Scientology supposedly holds the copyright and which has been added to the kit without the church's permission. Additional information can be found on the Internet: http://www.cybercom.net/~rnewman/scientology/home.html http://www.xs4all.nl/~fonss news:alt.religion.scientology news:alt.censorship news:alt.clearing.technology

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by ynter＠spica.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Emergency File Wipe Algorithim
by Andrew Loewenstern 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Lucky Green writes: > Didn't I just read a day ago that Robert Morris (ex-NSA) cautioned > that one should never underestimate the time and effort an opponent > is willing to put into recovering your data? > > May I also point out that the rules of economics do not apply to > the federal government, since it insits - quite successfully - on > having a monoploy on using lethal force to extract arbitraily large > amounts from hundreds of millions of working Americans? As always, Rubber Hose Cryptanalysis(*tm, patent pending) is usually the cheapest way to go...if you're a federal government. But not all threats are that serious. For instance, I have no fears that the admins here would grovel over the oxides on RAM cells in order to determine the pass-phrase of my PGP key if they suspected me of doing something naughty (even if they knew this was possible, which is unlikely). You can get really paranoid about security and rightly so if your opponent is a federal government. However, pushing key-material bits around RAM in order to prevent them from being burned into the chips is probably going to do you little good if, for instance, a hardware keystroke monitor is surreptitiously installed in your keyboard (which is likely far cheaper and easier than analysing RAM chips and maybe even disk platters). BTW, this is not a troll and I know that the possible constitutionality of court-ordered disclosure of passphrases or key-material has been hashed over many times in the past here, but have any cases with this particular attribute gone through court yet? There were reports even years ago of pedophiles and other agents of the Four Horsemen using PGP to encrypt diaries and such, have any of these cases gone to court yet and did the prosecution attempt to force the defendant to reveal a passphrase?? andrew (wonders how many readers will take their keyboards apart to look for radio transmitters)

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17 Dec '03

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Re: Emergency File Wipe Algorithim
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 16:20 9/5/95, Andrew Loewenstern wrote: [...] >andrew >(wonders how many readers will take their keyboards apart to look for radio >transmitters) Been there. Done that. Hmm, come to think of it, it's about time for another check. -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred.

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NYT on Draft Crypto Regs
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Peter Wayner reports in the on-line New York Times today on the draft BXA encryption regs being circulated among government agencies for comment. Peter highlights the proposed new restrictions on electronic distribution of crypto. Adam Shostack is quoted: http://www.nytimes.com/library/cyber/week/082497encrypt.html For those unable to access the NYT site, we've put a copy at: http://jya.com/bxa-nyt.htm We remind that a July 25 version of the draft regs is available at: http://jya.com/bxa-ei-rule.htm

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Son of Clipper (commentary)
by Jim Gillogly 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I didn't want to mix my comments with the recent discussion paper I sent along, so here they are separately. Please refer back to my last msg to see the points I'm bitching about. It's a depressingly restrictive list of things to require for software escrow encryption. I can only conclude that they're not serious. Clipper itself fails to meet many of them, including (I think) #1, #2, #5, and #6. Rumor has it that Clipper does not meet #9 either -- at Crypto '95 somebody in the Key Escrow session said many government Clipper keys are not escrowed, and somebody in the back spoke up and said he owned such a chip. By the way, Moti Yung (noted crypto guy at IBM Yorktown Heights) presented more breaks in Clipper's protocols like those Matt Blaze found, and pointed out some aspects of Matt's break that he thinks make it more important than previously thought. Other things that bother me about the list: #1: If it's escrowed, there should be no need to limit the key length unless somebody's planning to cheat. #3: This rules out the possibility of escrowing individual session keys to limit the access of LE to sessions they are entitled by law to intercept. #5: Care to tell us how to create software that can't be patched? This is one that's been played in the marketplace and has lost. The battle between copy protectors and crackers has been decided in favor of the crackers: legitimate users largely refuse to buy packages that are too messy to deal with (e.g. they leave hidden files all over the disk, which may interfere with backups or other programs) or that use special purpose hardware (e.g. dongles that eat up a printer port). This one's a loser, I think. #6: This is clearly a research issue. Several speakers (even pro-GAK) at Crypto '95 said the policy decisions are being made before the research has been done. The protocols and system specifications are key here, and it's not obvious how this criterion can be met. It's not obviously impossible, but it certainly hasn't been solved in Clipper. #7: One of the Crypto '95 attacks on the Clipper protocol makes use of this misfeature of Clipper. It allows a broadening of the net of captured keys so that many more unauthorized messages may be read. #8: See #3 above -- let's wait on the policy decision until we have a policy debate. A mandated compromise is an oxymoron. I (for one) would prefer to see much more limited keys (like session keys) if Congress decides that the right to privacy is not infringed by these technologies. There's nothing in here that specifically excludes dividing your keys among multiple escrow agents; I assume this is still an open issue still, or that it goes without saying (one way or the other). #3 and #6 make it impossible to prevent LE from reading messages from before or after their legally authorized window. This is clearly broken. Again, this appears to be trying to put all the power in the hands of LE to the detriment of the people. It's advertized as a compromise, but I see nothing gained over Clipper I. The only differences appear to be that the escrow agent(s) may be private instead of government, and the algorithms may be something other than SKIPJACK as long as they are at least 16 bits weaker as well as being known algorithms. It also doesn't address the main problem with Clipper I: that it wouldn't work, since (like Clipper I) it will catch only crooks who are smart enough to encrypt but stupid enough to encrypt with a system they (should) know LE can read -- probably a null set. If, on the other hand, this is made mandatory for encrypted transmissions, it will create a new and unnecessary class of criminals, probably including myself (though I won't promise to break any laws at this point). This really burns me up. What do they think they're doing here? Am I missing a big piece of it? Jim Gillogly Hevensday, 14 Halimath S.R. 1995, 22:02

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RE: VCRPLUS Huffman code
by James A. Tunnicliffe 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>On Tue, 5 Sep 1995, Peter Trei wrote: > >> >> > Has anyone worked out the VCRPLUS code? >> > > <chomp> > >> Code which implemented this partial crack was published on the net, >> and the VCR+ people got very upset about it - apparently they make > > I believe the code is in the cookbook archive at ftp.ee.ualberta.ca, >but when I just tried to confirm I got timeouts. > > Brian Among many other places, you can get this off my Web page, in: http://www.inference.com/~tunny/crypto/primer.html - Tunny ______________________________________________________________________ James A. Tunnicliffe | WWWeb: http://www.inference.com/~tunny Inference Corporation | PGP Fingerprint: CA 23 E2 F3 AC 2D 0C 77 tunny(a)Inference.com | <--finger for key 36 07 D9 33 3D 32 53 9C ======================================================================

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Child Porn
by XAVIER243＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Police and scientology visit XS4ALL Amsterdam
by Sam Kaplin 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: XS4ALL Internet Postbus 22864 1100 DJ Amsterdam tel: +31 20 6222885 fax: +31 20 6222753 PRESS RELEASE ------------- Police and members of Scientology church enter offices of XS4ALL ================================================================ Amsterdam - thuesday september 5, 1995. Today at about 14:00, XS4ALL was visited by Mr. S. Braan, bailiff. He was acting on behalf of the Religious Technology Centre, better known as the Scientology Church, or Scientology for short. He was assisted by a local police officer and Mr. Hermans from the 'Nauta-Dutilh' legal firm that represents Scientology in The Netherlands. Also present were two computer experts (Mr. Ootjes and Mr. Van Suchtelen) a locksmith (to enter had we not been present) and two American employees of Scientology, Mr. Weightman and Ms. Jenssen. Scientology is filing for seizure of XS4ALL's computer equipment. Under dutch law, this means that a bailiff comes in to record your assets. In real-life, the computer-experts that were present have recorded the types and serial numbers of all the computers in our offices. They did not take any equipment, the continuity of XS4ALL's services is not in jeopardy. What is this all about? ----------------------- The Scientology Church claims that the XS4ALL anonymous remailer was used to disseminate documents over the Internet to which the church holds the legal copyright. This has led the church to ask the president of the district court of Amsterdam to grant permission for this seizure as a prelude to legal procedures concerning damages suffered by the church. The remailer in question has been disabled more than 2 months ago. During the visit of Scientology to XS4ALL this afternoon, the remailer was not the subject of any conversation. The organisation seemed totally preoccupied with the information about Scientology that one of our users has put on his home page. Part of this information is said to be a file to which Scientology holds the copyright. If we were to delete the file in question on the spot, they were willing to drop the seizure. Responsability of Internet Providers ------------------------------------ XS4ALL categorically denies any responsability for contents of users' homepages. The users decide for themselves what is on their homepage. Since XS4ALL does not edit the homepages and has no mechanism of control over the contents we strongly feel that the users themselves are responsible for what they say on their homepage. This whole affair demonstrates the need for clarity concerning the legal postion of Internet Providers. We are shocked that our offices can be invaded bij freshly flown-in U.S. cult members. If we as Internet providers are held responsible for what our users say, that will undoubtebly kill freedom of speech on the net. Scare-tactics ------------- XS4ALL is not alone in receiving this kind of attention from Scientology. Scientology, a semi-religious multinational, is at war with a number of people on the Internet. A non-organized group of people on the net has started to openly discuss the activities of the church. Until recently, the church has always managed to supress critical voices by means of sheer intimidation and by engaging in endless legal battle. One of the people that Scientology has a problem with is 'fonss', an XS4ALL user that publishes the F.A.C.T.-net Kit on his home page (http://www.xs4all.nl/~fonss) This kit (which can be found on numerous homepages all over the Internet) consists of a large number of documents that show the true face of Scientology. One of these documents is a piece to which Scientology supposedly holds the copyright and which has been added to the kit without the church's permission. Additional information can be found on the Internet: http://www.cybercom.net/~rnewman/scientology/home.html http://www.xs4all.nl/~fonss news:alt.religion.scientology news:alt.censorship news:alt.clearing.technology

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