December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

\"But this is not really related to crypto, so....\"
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Responding to msg by tcmay(a)netcom.com (Timothy C. May) on Tue, 19 Jul 12:7 PM >the house of Cypherpunks has many rooms. Best thing about it, exceeded only by the fact that construction continues without architect.

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Re: Ms. Nym's stigmata
by catalyst-remailer＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A quick review of the patent stigmata: > I have been reading some fascinating interpretations of these and > other prophecies lately. Frequent Biblical allusions, particularly fond of apocalyptic references. > I think your cause for privacy would actually be > *advanced* by promoting an ID *card* under the following condition: Attempts to mask underlying obsession with veneer of rationality. > Anyone can obtain as many ID cards as they want. Fixation on multiple personalities (tentacles, "pseudo-anonymity"). > Before you accuse me of heresy, consider the system of email address > privacy that was championed earlier by Perry Metzger: you can get any [ and later ] > Well, I do not appreciate threats in my mailbox such as "Go away--I'm not > as gentle as Perry Metzger". I can't believe how torqued-up all you guys > are. This mailing list is like a firing range. Frequent mention of Perry Metzger. Standard unit of torment: Perry Metzger. > system with government? Or do you just want to get rid of governments, > and use "privacy" as the reason? Yikes. Tireless apologist and supporter of government. > People, you may successfully get me to lose this account for no reason. Paranoia never far below the surface.

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Come On
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Responding to msg by SADLER_C(a)HOSP.STANFORD.EDU ("Connie Sadler (415)725-7703") on 19 Jul 1994 <I find lines like the above very offensive/non-professional. I >won't let it stop me from continuing on, but what's the >point? I really don't get it. > >CS - Glad you posted. I don't get it either. John

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Kragen == LD?
by nobody＠shell.portal.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

"Kragen J. Sittler", xentrac(a)cybele.unm.edu, writes: >I think that the evidence is pretty strong that Sue isn't Larry. >She's another person completely, with a different posting style, a >moderate feminist and extreme leftist political stance, a willingness >(possibly, probably IMHO) to forward unsubstantiated libels (Ollie >North smuggling drugs? How likely is that?), a great deal of >sensitivity to the feelings of others, and a beautiful capacity to find >symbolism. I could be wrong about any or all of these, but they are >my impression on reading her posts, both here and from the new-age >religion group. Isn't a "Kragen" a fictional sea beast, something like a giant squid or octopus? Something with tentacles? And isn't Kragen's user name, xentrac, close to an anagram for tentacle? And isn't unm the University of New Mexico, adjacent to Detweiler's home state of Colorado? And here Kragen is praising Sue D. Nym for having a "beautiful capacity to find symbolism", when "her" posts seem to be random garbage? And didn't all of Kragen, Sue, and the various anonymous Detweiler posts all appear at about the same time? And hasn't Detweiler frequently discussed the use of multiple pseudonyms to mutually support and praise each other in order to build up an illusionary reputation? Makes you wonder...

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I take it the list is down?
by Michael V. Caprio Jr. 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

If so, please resubscribe me. I find it unusual to not have the typical 20 or so messages waiting for me since my last login... If not, apologies for the letter. Mike

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Re: Anti-Clipper Article in "THe Computer Applications Journal"
by NetSurfer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Tue, 19 Jul 1994 smb(a)research.att.com wrote: > Might I suggest that this is not the right newsgroup for anti-Clipper > articles? I've never seen *any* Cypherpunk defend it; what's the > point? Preaching to the choir? Repeat doses of brainwashing? > Actually I sent it because I thought the members of this list might be interested in seeing how they are "presented" in a mainstream tech journal. Also I was curious to see if members agreed with the statement of the one member basically speaking for the list, as well as the total lack of reference to PGP in the article. Was I off base in my thoughts about the potential interest in this article? If so, apologies. -NetSurfer #include standard.disclaimer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> == = = |James D. Wilson |V.PGP 2.4: 512/E12FCD 1994/03/17 > " " " |P. O. Box 15432 | finger for full PGP key > " " /\ " |Honolulu, HI 96830 |====================================> \" "/ \" |Serendipitous Solutions| Also NetSurfer(a)sersol.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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The east is red
by rishab＠dxm.ernet.in 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A swallow flew into a school classroom and wept for 10 minutes for the Great Leader. Then it prayed for 5 minutes, says North Korean Radio. Three wild geese wailed and circled over a Kim Il Sung statue. Tri-coloured clouds and rainbows have appeared to mourn Kim's death. Meanwhile in Singapore housing societies, closed circuit TV cameras have been installed in elevators, connected to TV's in many apartments. Intended to reduce the handful of people used to urinating in elevators, this will provide some much needed entertainment to satellite-dish-less Singaporeans. A letter in the Economist, replying to their story on the problem of too much growth in Singapore, suggested that the root cause is the 'near-whiplash speed of the escalators' that makes the citizens a scurrying lot. Rishab, who's too bemused to laugh. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rishab Aiyer Ghosh "Clean the air! clean the sky! wash the wind! rishab(a)dxm.ernet.in take stone from stone and wash them..." Voice/Fax/Data +91 11 6853410 Voicemail +91 11 3760335 H 34C Saket, New Delhi 110017, INDIA

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Time magazine says I'm a hacker
by rishab＠dxm.ernet.in 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Time's cover story on the Net says of cypherpunks: "a group of hackers who believe that powerful encryption will set them free". Huh |-* ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rishab Aiyer Ghosh "Clean the air! clean the sky! wash the wind! rishab(a)dxm.ernet.in take stone from stone and wash them..." Voice/Fax/Data +91 11 6853410 Voicemail +91 11 3760335 H 34C Saket, New Delhi 110017, INDIA

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Cypherpunks & math
by Nathan Zook 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I know I'll regret this, but... I've seen a lot of comments by folks that indicates a high level of mathematical sofistication. So I'm curious. Please e-mail me as follows: SUBJECT: nomath If you've not had some Discrete Math course. SUBJECT: discrete If you've had Discrete Math. SUBJECT: algebra1 If you've had semester course on algebra. SUBJECT: algebra2 If you've had a year-long senior level course based on Fraliegh or some such. SUBJECT: grad If you've been to grad school in math. SUBJECT: firstcourse If you've had the prelim algebra course. (Hungerford or such) SUBJECT: prelim If you've passed your algebra prelim. SUBJECT: orals If you've passed your oral exam. SUBJECT: orala If your oral had a significant algebra component SUBJECT: candidate If you are a candidate in algebra. SUBJECT: phd If you have a phd in math. SUBJECT: research If you have published in number theory. I'm an "orala". Thanks!

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No Subject
by frissell＠panix.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This week's "Time" has a cover story on Internet and we're in it. "Spooks vs. Cypherpunks There is a group of hackers who believe that powerful encryption will set them free. Government spooks don't mind if these so- called cypherpunks use codes to lock up secrets, so long as the spooks hold the back-door key." DCF "I don't care what you say about me as long as you spell my name right."

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