November 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: e voting (receipts, votebuying, brinworld)
by Nomen Nescio 26 Nov '03

26 Nov '03

Cameras in the voting booth? Jesus Christ, you guys are morons. If you want to sell your vote, just vote absentee. The ward guy will even stamp and mail it for you. Happens every election.

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RE: e voting (receipts, votebuying, brinworld)
by Trei, Peter 26 Nov '03

26 Nov '03

Miles Fidelman wrote: >Peter Trei wrote: >> All I want is a system which is not more easily screwed around with then >> paper ballots. >I think it's called OCR Actually, I think its called 'Optical Mark Sense'. >Paper ballots, marked by the voter, not by software, then counted by >software: >- the ballot and the audit document are one and the same - no opportunity >for software to mess with the printed record >- option for a quick and dirty recount by feeding the ballots through a >different counting machine (maybe with different software, from a >different vendor) >- further option for a manual recount of the original ballots (which are >probably more legible than any machine-printed receipts) >Oh, and by the way, these are the only kind of electronic voting machines >approved, so far, in Mass. >Miles Fidelman Indeed, thats where I live, and the tech we use. It pretty much fits all the requirements. The only complaints I've heard are: * It doesn't randomize the order of candidate presentation. * No provision for dealing with the blind.

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Re: e voting (receipts, votebuying, brinworld)
by Neil Johnson 26 Nov '03

26 Nov '03

On Tuesday 25 November 2003 01:21 pm, Trei, Peter wrote: [snip] > All I want is a system which is not more easily screwed around with then > paper ballots. Have some imagination - you could, for example, set things > up so the voter, and only the voter, can see the screen and/or paper > receipt while voting, but still make it impossible to use a camera without > being detected. > > Peter I was thinking of those boxes with viewing ports that you look into to get your eyes tested when you renew your drivers license. You could have those out in the open, that way you'd have the privacy (only turn the display on if the viewing port is completely covered), but if you tried to use a camera it would be pretty obvious (or you could design the lens of the port to make it impossible to discern the ballot except with the human eye(s)). Here in the sticks we just use the ole' number two pencil to fill in the oval. Some fancy polling places run the ballot through a reader to verify that there aren't any problems (missing ovals, multiple votes, etc.). They'll let you have three tries at it. However, there doesn't seem to be anything to stop me from going back in a few hours later and claiming to be someone else at a different address other than the if the person has already voted or by relying on steel-trap memory of the volunteer elderly ladies than man the poll (of course in our small town that can be pretty effective) :) . -Neil -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com PGP key available on request.

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Re: Lucrative update
by Eric Murray 26 Nov '03

26 Nov '03

Somoneone at monash.edu.au was resending old mails.

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Lucrative update
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