January 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Television
by Tim May 11 Jan '03

11 Jan '03

On Saturday, January 11, 2003, at 11:10 AM, Sunder wrote: > For fuck's sake you guys are truly illeterate slaves to Microsoft > aren't > you? That's the output of the fucking Linux banner command. > > RTFM: http://nodevice.com/sections/ManIndex/man0074.html And long before Linux, Unix variants of all kinds. And before Unix, things running on PDP-10s and 7s and 15s and IBM and Univac machines. As I said earlier, I saw these in the late 60s. Popular in Vietnam. --Tim May

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Re: Subject: Re: QM, EPR, A/B
by Tyler Durden 10 Jan '03

10 Jan '03

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Oooh, hackers are bad!
by Bo Elkjaer 10 Jan '03

10 Jan '03

This is worth a laugh. I have never before heard of or seen a hacker as bad as this one. Oh my. http://www.andrews.af.mil/89cg/89cs/scbsi/images/poster8.jpg Yours Bo Elkjaer, Denmark -- EOT

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Re: Indo European Origins and other stuff
by Mike Rosing 10 Jan '03

10 Jan '03

On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Tyler Durden wrote: > I'd also point out the need to be deliberately oblique. I'm not sure we > aren't actually headed towards a time where any of us can be carted away for > expressing how we really think. I also don't kid myself about whether > "someone could be listening". And I'm also not convinced that those > techniques our boys at the School of the Americas have been teaching might > not start to be used here at home "for our own good". You know, I really > don't want to be tortured. Some people think list-servs are a form of torture :-) The main thrust of destroying the constitution was completed in the 70's with RICO and polished off with the WoD in the 80's. By 2000 even some congress critters were noticing and were actually trying to slow down forfiture law. But it's all out the window now, and the precedents are set. The "illegal combatant" fiction is just one more small step in a few decades of totalitarian crap. Fortunatly dictators are incompetent idiots. It's not that hard to stay out of their way. But it seems to me it's safe to assume the US is a totalitarian state and act accordingly. Be a bureaucrat to survive, and maybe we'll get a Gorbachev to tear the whole thing down. Only another 40 years to go! Patience, persistence, truth, Dr. mike

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Re: It's Baaaaaaaaaaaaack
by Michael Cardenas 09 Jan '03

09 Jan '03

What was the bit length of the rsa key that they factored? On Thu, Jan 09, 2003 at 10:25:51AM -0800, Eric Cordian wrote: > http://www.vnunet.com/News/1137916 > > "The Neo Project began at the start of this year to try to crack > Microsoft's private RSA-576 key by using a distributed computing > network. > > This move followed RSA Security's original RSA-576 Factoring > Challenge, posted last July, which offered crackers $10,000 to break > the encryption algorithm. > > After successfully meeting RSA's challenge this week and publishing > the factors on the internet, Neo Project announced that it would focus > on Microsoft's implementation of the algorithm used for digital rights > management in its Xbox console." > > Oh my. > -- michael cardenas | lead software engineer, lindows.com hyperpoem.net | GNU/Linux software developer people.debian.org/~mbc | encrypted email preferred Listening to: Amon Tobin - Chomp Samba "There is no reality except the one contained within us. That is why so many people live such an unreal life. They take the images outside of them for reality and never allow the world within to assert itself." - Herman Hesse

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Re: bin Laden, Hanssen, Inslaw Promis, Oh My!
by Duncan Frissell 09 Jan '03

09 Jan '03

At 09:58 AM 1/9/03 -0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote: >http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20030106-75579570.htm > >--- >Greets to the TLA moths flitting to the flame of keywords.. Though the article would be better if it had named the former NJ Governor Thomas H. Kean instead of "David H. Kean." DCF

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Re: Pigs Kill Family Pet
by Pete Capelli 09 Jan '03

09 Jan '03

No they don't; or they wouldn't have had the balls to stop the car in the first place. -p ----- Original Message ----- From: "Miles Fidelman" <mfidelman(a)civicnet.org> To: <cypherpunks(a)minder.net> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 12:21 PM Subject: Re: Pigs Kill Family Pet > > > > -- > > Eric Michael Cordian 0+ > > O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division > > "Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law" > > Apparantly the police in Tennessee agree with your sig line. >

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RE: Pigs Kill Family Pet
by Trei, Peter 09 Jan '03

09 Jan '03

> Eric Cordian[SMTP:emc@artifact.psychedelic.net] wrote: > > > Pigs think they are untouchable in the post-9-11 enviromnent. Many pigs > need to be killed. > > http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/01/08/police.kill.dog/index.html > > ----- > > COOKEVILLE, Tennessee (CNN) -- Police video released Wednesday showed > a North Carolina family kneeling and handcuffed, who shrieked as > officers killed their dog -- which appeared to be playfully wagging > its tail -- with a shotgun during a traffic stop. > > ... > > The family was driving through eastern Tennessee on their way home > from a New Year's trip to Nashville. They told CNN they are in the > process of retaining a lawyer and considering legal action against the > Cookeville, Tennessee, Police Department and the Tennessee Highway > Patrol for what happened to them and their dog. > > In the video, released by the THP, officers are heard ordering the > family, one by one, to get out of their car with their hands up. James > Smoak and his wife, Pamela, and 17-year-old son Brandon are ordered > onto their knees and handcuffed. > > ... > > The Smoaks told CNN that as they knelt, handcuffed, they pleaded with > officers to close the doors of their car so their two dogs would not > escape, but the officers did not heed them. > > ... > > The tape then shows the Smoak's medium-size brown dog romping on the > shoulder of the Interstate, its tail wagging. As the family yells, the > dog, named Patton, first heads away from the road, then quickly > circles back toward the family. > > An officer in a blue uniform aims his shotgun at the dog and fires at > its head, killing it immediately. > > I read about this a couple days ago. The reason for the stop is interesting - apparently Mr. Smoak left his wallet on the roof of the car. After they started down the highway, it blew off, scattering bills. Another driver saw the flying wallet and currency, thought it had been thrown out the window, and called it in as a carjacking/robbery in progress. The cops accepted this, hence the felony stop. Peter Trei

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Re: citizens can be named as enemy combatants
by Ken Brown 09 Jan '03

09 Jan '03

Michael Cardenas wrote: > I think you're overreacting a bit. The actual case involves someone > who was in a foriegn country for years, and was in the war zone at the > time he was fighting the US. Hey, I'm not a USAan and I don't even live there. But I think I know your Constitution well enough to know that I never read the bit about how long you have to live in a foreign country to lose your rights. The argument is just the same as the one we're always using about crypto or security. The system is as strong as it's weakest link. If there are 2 doors to your house you need to lock them both. Someone, somewhere, has to decide whether this man's service in a foreign army is naughty enough to lose him his constitutional rights. If *that* decision-making process has weaker legal protection than a normal criminal trial would have had, the effect is that the legal protection of the whole system is reduced. If the process of removing someone's constitutional rights is not itself subject to those rights, then those rights are hollow and can be removed at will. Ken Brown

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Re: Cypherpunk fashions for the New Ashcroft Era (Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary)
by Bill Stewart 09 Jan '03

09 Jan '03

At 03:14 PM 01/08/2003 -0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote: >At 11:34 PM 1/8/03 +0100, Thomas Shaddack wrote: > >I don't know the weaknesses of gait-observing systems, so I can't >suggest > >anything. > >Kilts for men (over the knee, please, and not for aesthetics). >Hoop-skirts for women. A heavy backpack carried asymmetrically >(for extra fun, use a canteen where the sloshing water messes with your >physics). www.utilikilts.com for the practical but less traditional kilts. And computer bags can be pretty asymmetrical, even if you don't have the new 6.8 pound 17" Macintosh AluminumBook.

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