September 2002 - cypherpunks-legacy

The Liberty Dollar
by Gary Jeffers 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

My fellow Cypherpunks, The Liberty Dollar My fellow Cypherpunks, I think I may have some really great news here, but you all can check it out to be sure. I found an alternative money on the Internet. It is called the Liberty Dollar. The Internet site is: http://www.norfed.org NORFED is The National Organization for the Repeal of the Federal Reserve Act and the Internal Revenue Code. The money is backed by silver and gold and can be redeemed widely in America. As many of you know, the $US is a corrupt, proprietary, debt issued, fait, fractional reserved,illegal, unconstituional, U. S. State enforced monopoly currency. As corrupt as it is I don't know why it hasn't already collasped and dragged us down with it! If the Liberty Dollar is honest and robust, then it may be the vehical to beat the elite bankers tyranny and give us an honest wealth produced money. Yours Truly, Gary Jeffers BEAT STATE !!!!

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RE: Cypherpunks IQ Test
by Aimee Farr 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

Mike: Are you often the victim of mercenary females? > -----Original Message----- > From: mmotyka(a)lsil.com [mailto:mmotyka@lsil.com] > Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 3:28 PM > To: aimee.farr(a)pobox.com > Subject: Cypherpunks IQ Test > > > It's an obvious setup. The woods are part of a defense installation, > apple is filled with coke, the girl is underage, the woods are full of > trigger happy fibbies. > > You hit the ground and roll into the brush, drawing on the way. You > attempt to locate opponents and identify the safest route away from the > situation. > > Mike > > > >CYPHERPUNKS IQ TEST > > > >QUESTION #1. > > > >You are walking through the woods alone. A beautiful unclothed woman > >magically appears in front of you. She holds out an apple. > > > >1. Please darken in the correct choice using a Number Two pencil: > > > >(a) you bite the apple. > >(b) you take the woman. > >(c) you run away. > >(d) a and b, but not c. > >(e) b and c only. > >(f) all of the above. > >(g) none of the above. > > > >2. Please justify your answer: > > > > > >___________________________________________________________________. > > > > > >Just curious.... > > > > -Aimee

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More on "new physics"
by Tim May 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

Someone sent me a private note. I have deleted his name for this public reply. > Tim May wrote: > > >> The "new physics" stuff is quite different. It is scorned in a way >> that plate tectonics was not, and for good reason. Folks should visit >> Bearden's site. http://www.cheniere.org/correspondence/index.html > > I did. Oh, dear. > > Not sure what is supposed to be denoted by "Tesla physics", but Tesla's > work with power transmission via HF is fascinating, even if there was > apparently no practical or safe use for it. No one disputes the outstanding work Tesla did on a.c. transmission. And anyone who has seen or used a Tesla coil knows how real it is. "Tesla physics" is all the cruft that has developed around some of his more obscure (and late) writings, usually mixed together with stuff Tesla could not have known about at the time of his death. To wit, the stuff about zero point energy and perpetual motion machines. And, sometimes, mixed together with the usual nutcase stuff about the Hollow Earth theory (zeta reticulans colonizing the hollow earth, Greys, underground UFO bases, secret Nazi weapons, etc.). Tesla is a hero to these "new physics" nuts, even though nothing Tesla ever worked on or built contradicts in the slightest way the predictions of Maxwell's theories. They take Tesla's very real contributions and some of his weirder theories (though none of them so weird as the Hollow Earth/antigravity/time reversal theories of modern nutters) and say that this means "They laughed at Tesla, they laugh at me!" BTW, I was/am an early ("angel") investor in a company doing work on ultrawideband transmissions. Some of the works Bearden cites, like those of Barrett, are familiar to me and others with this company. Saying that there is a role for ultrawideband pulse technology, a la spread spectrum and beyond SS, is NOT the same as saying there are confirmed "problems" with electromagnetic theory. There may be, and there are a handful of folks doing "foundational" work in E&M, but, so far, there are no indications that their foundational work is changing any engineering calculations. Quite the contrary, in my view. Electromagnetic theory basically "works"--to many decimal places of accuracy. Circuits work as expected, antennas work as expected, and there are no "unexplained observations" (as usually exist before a new theory arrives). There may be some _semantic_ issues, e.g., does a square wave or impulse "really" have components that were sent out _before_ the square wave or impulse? (A Fourier decomposition of a square wave starting at time t = 0 has "sine wave components" spread out over time and adding up in such a way as to give the square wave, or the impulse, or any other signal. Some think this means deep and mysterious things are happening, something having to do with time travel and reversing the aging process, blah blah blah. Henning Harmuth may write fairly eloquently about the "dogma of the circle" and how the Fourier decomposition of a signal into (allegedly) a near-infinite series of sine waves is "not real," but for all intents and purposes it all works. And the "new physics" people like Bearden go way beyond what Harmuth and Barrett are talking about: they bring in "curved space-time" and gravitation and antigravity and the ultra-weird notion that aging can be reversed by "pumping the conjugate time-axis of the Minkowski manifold" (OK, I made this up...don't have time to lift one of Bearden's direct quotes...and this will help train me in the jargon if I ever become a "new physicist."). Nut cases like Bearden have the patter of physics down. Very few actual physicists waste their time dissecting and refuting Bearden for obvious reasons. I urge readers of this list not to waste time on this stuff. --Tim May, Citizen-unit of of the once free United States " The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. "--Thomas Jefferson, 1787

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Re: AP Al Qaeda
by mattd 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

>>No, no. AP is funny because it's impracticeable. One does not find an assassin exclusively by tracing who paid him to kill. One can (and often does) find him because he makes a mistake in the act of commiting the crime. Which, if I'm >>reading my history right, is what's hampered the noisy proponents of AP up to this point already. Crime? Wot crime,guvnor? Jim and CJ were not 'noisy'.imo. Im a bit noisy cos Im pushing the 'let it all hang out' version. >The point is that Bell's theory does a really good job of sorting out the business end of assassination,...< Oh THATS funny.I get it. HAHAHA! >>Killing one person, especially a public official, pisses a whole bunch of people off. Those people have a tendency to come find their buddy's killer. Mmm,where do we start,lets get some firebrands and go up to the proffrs? Look at sites with no logs for quad anon 'predictors' who may be overseas briefly visiting cybercafes,Good luck china.(you just contradicted yrself btw.) Oh,unless you mean the torture/french village reprisal thang.Win friends and influence people. The one person killed will have had to have done a lot of evil shit to get enough pooled (presumably) to tempt a seasoned pro.Unless some professional killer turns all altruistic,stranger things have happened.The killer could be suicidal.another possibility.Lots of scenarios possible here,movie scripts,even.Pop songs,video games.DoCoMo assasinphones. Someone like a torturer,murderer,terrorist,pedophile is a logical candidate.(stephen roach?)Sometimes these happen to be public officials.Theres one here where I live named dennis Tanner.(vic.au) Those killers by remote control like arbusto might be be made more accountable. What better way than...Bell's theory, "a really good job of sorting out the business end of assassination"according to you. KILL THE PRESIDENT! "Id buy that for a dollar!" >>No kind of real or threatened assassination can weaken a government in which a majority of the governed people >believe. It can only make it seem more righteous and be more strong. Thats true,roll over and go back to sleep,if you live under that govt you have nothing to worry about. More righteous and more smug.

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None
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Colorado Cypherpunks meeting
by nates＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Welcome to cypherwonks
by Majordomo＠Lists.EUnet.fi 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Welcome to the cypherwonks mailing list! If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, send the following command in email to "Majordomo(a)Lists.EUnet.fi": unsubscribe cypherwonks Stanton McCandlish <mech(a)eff.org> Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: This is the Cypherwonks mailing list Below is The Cypherwonk Charter, by L. Detweiler, Cypherwonk Janitor The cypherwonks are a splinter group from the cypherpunks also interested in promoting and implementing cryptographic technology. However, we have unique ideas on how to successfully implement these radical new capabilities to ensure privacy without encouraging criminal behaviors like forgery and `online predation'. We are also interested in a far more ambitious goal of `technological progress' that transcends a mere obsession with privacy and anonymity. The cypherwonks believe that many aspects of a identification and government are necessary and crucial for any social stability (particularly related to judicial and law enforcement systems), and are quite alarmed at talk about a `cryptoanarchy' resulting from the mere implementation of software protocols -- although we realize that radical new forms of government may appear with these new technologies, embodied in one term `Electronic Democracy'. We believe that while sometimes the `majority' can become a `tyranny', in general the idea of voting as a civilized way of resolving proposals and `one person, one vote' are sacred, and we are interested in implementing systems that promote interaction and collaboration among motivated and enthusiastic members, whether within the cypherwonk organization or within their nations (cypherwonks, of course, try to think free of local prejudices, and globally). Cypherwonks understand that *trust* and *honesty* are inherent in all human endeavors, *particularly* communication. We recognize that people trust others not to reveal our private email unless given permission, we trust others not to use information from our mail or about their identities to adverse aims, we trust that systems delivering mail will not be corrupted by criminals, or if they get caught there will be serious consequences, and many other explicit and implicit variations. We know that there are many ingenious ways of minimizing the amount of trust required in unknown components such as with the use of cryptography or pseudonyms, and we seek passionately to invent and use them, but at the root level, email is an exchange between human beings who trust each other. Therefore, we hold a sense of ethics and morality in strong reverence, and even though we're not always precisely sure what they entail, we know that they exist and we strive for the right ideal. We abhor the idea that `it's not wrong if you can get away with it' or other variations of moral relativism. Cypherwonks are also extremely interested in promoting and implementing `digital cash', but believe that while invariably the state's taxes tend to become burdensome, few civilized, technological societies are free of them, and certainly we do not advocate tax evasion, `black marketeering', or any other subversive or illegal activities through cryptographic techniques, and even beyond this we seek design protocols that discourage these subversive aims in general, because of their toxic, fragmentary effect on social unity. Cypherwonks recognize that our mailing list is extremely critical in coordinating our movement and our fellow members. It is our central nervous system. While the list is informal, we demand a professional atmosphere, and will privately object to people who are publicly rude or belligerent. But we are also extremely careful about what we say to each other in private, because people can be extremely influenced by what they receive in mail. We would be aghast and horrified to find that somebody viciously criticized someone in private mail based on public postings, for example. We place high value on being courteous to each other and minimizing disagreement where possible, forging consensus, and the art of diplomacy in surmounting political barriers. We trust each other on the list and in personal email. We wish to have an open, uplifting, inspiring, honest, representative, polite, respectful, egalitarian dialogue. We will never use the mailing list for personal or selfish reasons -- we strive to serve our fellow cypherwonks through our postings. We are what we claim to be. We abhor secrecy, `security through obscurity', and conspirational cliques. Cypherwonks are extremely interested in promoting some forms of anonymity. However, we do not necessarily believe that others are required to read anonymous postings. To the contrary, we believe that the individual should have the tools and freedom to filter his or her own mail based on real identities. In particular, we condemn the practice of `pseudospoofing,' the dangerous deception where a person builds up a pseudonym and misrepresents it as being that of a real person's identity. We police each other on the list to prevent it, and require a promise that our members refrain from it. While our trust can be betrayed, only those that are honest are true cypherwonks, and anyone who betrays our trust we consider a dishonist hypocrite, or worse, a tra *itor. Cypherwonks are extremely interested in building tangible systems. Engineers who love to discuss the nitty-gritty details of some scheme are at home on the cypherwonks list. We like to impress each other with our knowledge but at the same time state it in relevant and humble terms. We are not trying to win popularity contests with our postings. We are trying to accomplish ambitious endeavors. We are especially ecstatic to make connections with other cypherwonks interested in the same projects we are, and cooperating to build useful tools. We like to give status reports of our intermittent real-world meetings and

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moderated cryptography list
by pmetzger＠lehman.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hello, all. I'm looking for a site willing to host a high-quality moderated cryptography mailing list which I am thinking of starting up. The list would be designed as a low volume, high readership, high quality source for 1) In-depth technical discussions of cryptography 2) Announcements of cryptographic products 3) Announcements of news items of interest to the cryptography community. 4) VERY limited numbers of postings on the social implications of cryptography, and I mean VERY limited. All postings would be explicitly approved by the moderator before going out to assure quality. Yes, that means fascistic restriction of your capacity for free speech, in exchange for not being overwhelmed with garbage every day. It is ultimately envisioned that should the list be a success I would try to move it to a moderated Usenet newsgroup. If you think that such a list is a Good Thing, and you can host it (which requires that you have a good internet connection and root access or similar on the machine in question), please let me know. I'll do all the work, and the crypto community will thank you tremendously. Perry Metzger

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Re: Anarchy Gone Awry (fwd)
by Black Unicorn 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This post is a perfect example why the two lists should be kept seperate and not merged. This sounds to me like it belongs on alt.politics.data- highway. -uni- (dark)

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Request for Web Browser Information
by dstoler＠globalpac.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I would like to know the information my browser makes available to web sites. I use both Netscape and Internet Explorer. Obviously web sites can determine my IP address for any given session; they can also look at cookies left by themselves and other sites. Can anyone point me to where I can learn exactly what other information is made available (browser version?, OS version?, system name?, user name?, etc.)? Thanks in advance. David

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Re: CHAUM CHIMES IN
by cme＠ellisun.sw.stratus.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Date: 08 Sep 93 16:30:55 EDT >From: Sandy <72114.1712(a)CompuServe.COM> >Subject: CHAUM CHIMES IN >Message-Id: <930908203054_72114.1712_FHF95-2(a)CompuServe.COM> ..From: > SANDY SANDFORT Reply to: ssandfort(a)attmail.com [ . . . ] >Of course, the next letter to the editor calls for the adoption >of systems to track every vehicle at all times. The genius who >wrote the letter, thinks it would be a good way to prevent >nuclear, biological or chemical terrorism. Geeeeez. It was signed by Dorothy Denning, right? Actually, they should take that to its full conclusion. We need implants in every individual, broadcasting to the local surveillance agency, giving not only location but also every word spoken in the vicinity. It could also do a chemical analysis of the air in the neighborhood. It should also have a radiation counter. It should also monitor the host body, looking for signs of anger or sexual arousal? How else will we be guaranteed safe from mad bombers, rapists and child molesters? How else will our big budget LE agencies be able to protect us? I know. When it's finally adopted, worldwide, they'll call it the Ellison Plan. :-( - Carl

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Stegno and DAT and digital music...
by Peter Wayner 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In this week's Sunday NYT, Hans Fantel, their music guy, writes at length about the new "dithered" CD's and how the guys have improved the sound. He says that the original CD format was limited to 16 bits of sound because of costs. But many audiophiles reacted very negatively to the tinny, metalic quality to the music. For this reason, the companies have developed 20 bit DAT recording tape and then come up with ways to "dither" this into 16 bits. I am curious if anyone knows the details of these algorithms. Also, his point suggests that flipping the least significant bit of 16 bit music may not be imperceptable to some ears. If the classical music starts to sound tinny then there might be something subversive in the least significant bits. -Peter Wayner

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Remail: errors
by HFinney＠shell.portal.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I have been out of town for the last week, so I missed some CP mail. It looks like some good things are happening with remailers, though. Kudos to Karl, Sameer, and the others for their work! I have received many messages to my remailer in the last week which came from remail(a)tamsun.tamu.edu, which were PGP-encrypted apparently in an effort to get my remailer to send them. They did not work, though, because there was no "Encrypted: PGP" header to trigger the remailer's decryption. This can be arranged by creating the message something like this: ======================================================== :: Request-Remailing-To: hfinney(a)shell.portal.com :: Encrypted: PGP - -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- <rest of message> - -----END PGP MESSAGE------ ======================================================== This would then be sent to remail(a)tamsun.tamu.edu. I don't know whether the multiplicity of such erroneous messages is just due to one person stubbornly re-trying, or whether there is an error in one of the new programs for creating chained remailer messages. Hal Finney hfinney(a)shell.portal.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.2 iQCVAgUBLJaNuKgTA69YIUw3AQHrNwQAowMEQwuH6YyHoj6T7AqZFLNdTf+eqJ9L LhAatHS94nmC1smkfVNq0dZmigmkvBdMNEPlBZemmxALz+KJw6OSY/ULSBmuVNEq 5rJANh3XimoJWqLISy2lZiuC5Fw2R7UvRadcdM94pncSVvev92Fyf7CqEOOtrGAK PUzRds7BVNo= =FpLa -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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more than spread spectrum
by cme＠ellisun.sw.stratus.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

There are alternatives to spread spectrum, if we're threatened with loss of freedom to communicate. We could lay our own wires/fibers. We could set up a mesh network of infrared lasers through the air. Last time I looked, there were no laws against shining lights out your window as long as they didn't bother anyone. An infrared laser could hardly bother anyone. We could produce a line of cheap cards to plug into a PC which would do packet routing, using a variety of physical links -- our own wires, lasers, very low range radio, .... Each card would connect to three or more neighbors and become part of the global mesh. Adaptive routing with no global map would suffice for the card and would keep the whole system peer-to-peer with no need for central control and no chance for central tapping. Of course all of these solutions require a high density of users. A college campus might be the right place to start. We could then branch out to cities. I suspect that a place like Chicago or NYC with high rise apartments might be the place to start -- many options for line-of-sight communications. The benefit isn't just for Cypherpunks. It's a free network for the masses -- like the original USENET (with each user donating routing and store/forward) but with unrestricted, low-range, continuously operating physical links. I'll volunteer to do the software for the node card. Does anyone have hardware design/fab to donate to the effort? - Carl

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Real-world steganography
by pgut001＠cs.auckland.ac.nz 01 Oct '02

01 Oct '02

I recently came across a real-world use of steganography which hides extra data in the LSB of CD audio tracks to allow (according to the vendor) the equivalent of 20-bit samples instead of 16-bit and assorted other features. According to the vendors, "HDCD has been used in the recording of more than 5,000 CD titles, which include more than 250 Billboard Top 200 recordings and more than 175 GRAMMY nominations", so it's already fairly widely deployed. >From http://www.hdcd.com/partners/proaudio/overview.html: [...] Hidden Code Addition/Output Dither/Quantization The final step in the reduction to 16 bits is to add high-frequency weighted dither and round the signal to 16-bit precision. The dither increases in amplitude in the frequency range of 16 to 22.05 kHz, leaving the noise floor flat below 16 kHz where the critical bands of hearing associated with tonality occur. As part of the final quantization, a pseudo-random noise hidden code is inserted as needed into the least significant bit (LSB) of the audio data. The hidden code carries the decimation filter selection and Peak Extend and Low Level Range Extend parameters. Inserted only 2?5 percent of the time, the hidden code is completely inaudible-effectively producing full 16-bit undecoded playback resolution. The result is an industry-standard 44.1-kHz, 16-bit recording compatible with all CD replication equipment and consumer CD players. [...] The paper describing the process is available under the somewhat misleading name http://www.hdcd.com/partners/proaudio/AES_Paper.pdf. The description of the stego en/decoding process is on p.15 (it's a rather long excerpt, but it's interesting stuff): As part of the final quantization, a hidden code side channel is inserted into the LSB when it is necessary for the encoder to inform the decoder of any change in the encoding algorithm. It takes the form of a pseudo-random noise encoded bit stream which occupies the least significant bit temporarily, leaving the full 16 bits for the program material most of the time. Normally, the LSB is used for the command function less than five percent of the time, typically only one to two percent for most music. Because the hidden code is present for a small fraction of the time and because it is used as dither for the remaining 15 bits when it is inserted, it is inaudible. This was confirmed experimentally with insertion at several times the normal fraction of time. [...] The mechanism which allows insertion of commands only when needed consists of encapsulating the command word and parameter data in a "packet". A synchronizing pattern is prepended to the data and a checksum is appended. The resulting packet is then scrambled using a feedback shift register with a maximal length sequence and inserted serially, one bit per sample, into the LSB of the audio data. The decoder sends the LSB's of the audio data to a complementary shift register to unscramble the command data. A pattern matching circuit looks for the synchronizing pattern in the output of the descrambler, and when it finds it, it attempts to recover a command. If the command has a legal format and the checksum matches, it is registered as a valid packet for that channel. The arrival of a valid packet for a channel resets a code detect timer for that channel. If both channels have active timers, then code is deemed to be present and the filter select data is considered valid immediately. However, any command data which would effect the level of the signal must match between the two channels in order to take effect. The primary reason for this is to handle the case where an error on one channel destroys the code. In such a case, the decoder will mistrack for a short time until the next command comes along, which is much less audible than a change in gain on only one channel, causing a shift in balance and lateral image movement. If either of the code detect timers times out, then code is deemed not to be present, and all commands are canceled, returning the decode system to its default state. If the conditions on the encoder side are not changing, then command packets are inserted on a regular basis to keep the code detect timers in the decoder active and to update the decoder if one starts playing a selection in the middle of a continuous recording. Since the decoder is constantly scanning the output of the de-scrambler shift register for valid command packets even when none are present, the possibility exists that there may be a false trigger. For audio generated by the encoder, this possibility is eliminated in the absence of storage and transmission errors by having the encoder scan the LSB of the audio data looking for a match. If a match to the synchronizing pattern is found, the encoder inverts one LSB to destroy it. Modern digital storage and transmission media incorporate fairly sophisticated error detection and correction systems. Therefore, we felt that only moderate precautions were necessary in this system. The most likely result of an error in the signal is a missed command, which can result in a temporary mis- tracking of the decoding, as mentioned above. Given the low density of command data, and the small changes to the signal which the process uses, these errors are seldom more audible than the error would be in the absence of the process. The chances of a storage error being falsely interpreted as a command are extremely small. For material not recorded using the encoder, a small probability for a false trigger does exist. Given a moderate length for the scrambling shift register so that its mapping behaves in a noise-like fashion and a choice of synchronizing pattern which avoids patterns likely to appear in audio data with a higher than average probability, susceptibility to false triggers can be made arbitrarily small by increasing the length of the part of the packet requiring a match. In the case of the current system, the combination of the synchronizing pattern with the bit equivalence for all valid commands plus check sum results in a required match equivalent to 39 sequential bits. For a stereo signal, in which a match must occur in both channels within a one second interval and the commands in both channels must specify the same gains, this amounts to an expectation of one event in approximately 150 million years of audio. The scrambling operation uses a feedback shift register designed for a maximal length sequence in which data taken from taps in the register are added using modulo two arithmetic, equivalent to an 'exclusive or' operation, and fed back to the input of the register. For a given register length there are certain configurations of taps which will produce a sequence of one and zero values at the output that does not repeat until 2N-1 values have emerged, where N is the length of the shift register. This corresponds to the number of possible states of the shift register minus one illegal state, and is called a maximal length sequence. Such an output sequence has very noise-like properties and, in fact, is the basis of some noise generators. We use the noise-like behavior of the generator to scramble the command signals by adding them modulo two to the input of the shift register, as for example in Figure 7a. This has the advantage that a second similar shift register with taps in the same places but with only feed forward addition modulo two (Figure 7b) will reproduce the original input sequence when fed with the output of the first one. The fact that the decode side has no feedback means that the initialization requirements are limited to having N input samples prior to the beginning of decoding, which means that the decoder will "lock up" very quickly. In this scheme, the presence of a bit error anywhere in the length of a packet plus initialization sequence will completely scramble the data, preventing recovery. However, in practice, this has not been a problem for reasons described above. Peter. --------------------------------------------------------------------- The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe cryptography" to majordomo(a)wasabisystems.com

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Re: smartcards
by Steve Thompson 30 Sep '02

30 Sep '02

Quoting Trei, Peter (ptrei(a)rsasecurity.com) > The phone SW world is nowhere near as closed as you think. > > * Thousands of developers are writing Java applets for Japanese iMode > phones. > * Hundreds are developing applets for the Blackberry 5810 and 5820 phones > (free Java-based IDS from RIM). > * Similarly, the high end Pocket PC and Palm phones both have free or > inexpensive > development environments (C/C++) > * Finally, Qualcomm phones support BREW (free SDK, expensive training). I stand corrected. I'm even reading a short bit about Nokia's new 3g phone: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/27310.html "The device, known as the Nokia 6650, is also notable for allowing users to record up to 20 seconds of video (128x96 pixels) with sound using a built in VGA camera employing 4096 colours, the first Nokia phone to offer the facility...." "Other features include a multimedia messaging service (MMS) client, a WAP 1.2.1-compatible browser, integrated Bluetooth, a "wallet" application for mobile transactions, and a Java 2 Micro Edition (J2ME) virtual machine based on the mobile information device profile (MIDP)." Includes infrared and USB as well. Not much quickly available describing the wallet app, but it probably isn't peer-to-peer. > My take on the situation is that the platform vendors are so anxious to get > developer mindshare, and new apps, that they are for the most part giving > away the development environments and specs. IOW, a decent number of platforms are ready to go. Cool. Regards, Steve

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Howdy
by xxxDerrickxxx＠hotmail.com 30 Sep '02

30 Sep '02

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RE: smartcards
by Trei, Peter 30 Sep '02

30 Sep '02

> Steve Thompson[SMTP:stevet010@yahoo.com] wrote: > > I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned cell-phones as a digital cash > platform. > Perhaps this belabours the obvious, but I'll spell it out anyways: > > o They are ubiquitous. > > o Most of them have an IR port and many contain enough storage and > horsepower to keep and play small MP3 collections. Chaumian digital > cash > code should fit easily. Hell, some companies are already making > noises > about full-motion video. How long before the damn things have a > digital > camera built in? > > o Peer-to-peer transactions will obviously work via IR. Central > clearing > mechanisms will work through the phone net. Thus they embody the > basic > infrastructure for both worlds. The entire thing could be done over > SMS, > of course, but IR for peer-to-peer, day-to-day transactions is best > from a > privacy and usability standpoint. > > o PC-based software is in use for the synchronisation of calendar data, > etc. > Many people are already familiar with using their phones for these > kinds > of purposes so what's one more application to the user? > > The problem is that phone software is (to my knowledge) all closed-source > and > running on proprietary hardware. What's the liklihood of manufacturers > opening up their phones for third-party code? A Java VM might do it, as > might > something lean like an Inferno VM. More informed list members could > probably > suggest other virtual machines which would suit our purposes. > [...] > Regards, > Steve > The phone SW world is nowhere near as closed as you think. * Thousands of developers are writing Java applets for Japanese iMode phones. * Hundreds are developing applets for the Blackberry 5810 and 5820 phones (free Java-based IDS from RIM). * Similarly, the high end Pocket PC and Palm phones both have free or inexpensive development environments (C/C++) * Finally, Qualcomm phones support BREW (free SDK, expensive training). My take on the situation is that the platform vendors are so anxious to get developer mindshare, and new apps, that they are for the most part giving away the development environments and specs. Peter Trei

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Re: smartcards
by James A. Donald 30 Sep '02

30 Sep '02

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30 Sep '02

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29 Sep '02

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Re: What good are smartcard readers for PCs
by Bill Stewart 28 Sep '02

28 Sep '02

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27 Sep '02

On Friday 27 September 2002 18:53, Major Variola (ret) wrote: > Besides, its computers we have to ban, then the internet problem goes > away too, see... No, that won't do it. People could still spread their dissentious ideas by telephone, and photocopy the intellectual property of content providers. We need to ban electricity, then the problem goes away... -- Steve Furlong Computer Condottiere Have GNU, Will Travel Vote Idiotarian --- it's easier than thinking

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350 120GB（D540X/盒）5400转 540 81.9GB（ 80/盒）5400转 380 60GB（ 536DX/盒）5400转 320 100GB（ 536DX/盒）5400转 1000 60GB（ D540X/盒）5400转 380 160GB（ D540X/盒）5400转 1100 30.7GB（ VL40/散）5400 转 300 61.4GB（ 80/散）5400转 370 40GB（ 536DX/散）5400转 230 15GB（531DX/散）5400转 200 20GB（Plus 60/盒）7200转 210 希捷 40.8GB（U Series 6）5400转 200 40GB（Barracuda ATA IV）7200转 220 60GB（Barracuda ATA IV）7200转 280 20.4GB（U Series 6）5400转 200 80GB（Barracuda ATA IV）7200转 350 20GB（Barracuda ATA IV）7200转 200 30GB（Barracuda ATA III）7200转 220 20GB（U Series 5）5400转 170 40GB（U Series 5）5400转 210 20GB（Barracuda ATA III）7200转 210 40GB（Barracuda ATA III）7200转 220 10.2GB（Barracuda ATA III）7200转 180 10GB（U Series 5）5400转 120 15.3GB（Barracuda ATA III）7200转 220 30GB（U Series 5）5400转 270 15.3GB（U Series 5）5400转 240 ST39236/LW 10000转 450 ST39236/LCV 7200转 500 IBM 60GB（Deskstar 60GXP）7200转 250 10GB（Travelstar 20GN）4200转 190 40GB（Deskstar 60GXP）7200转 220 40GB（Deskstar 120GXP）7200转 220 80GB（Deskstar 120GXP）7200转 310 18.3GB（Ultrastar 36LZX/68）服务器硬盘\转速:10000转\缓存:4MB 580 18.3GB（Ultrastar 36LZX/80）服务器硬盘\转速:10000转\缓存:4MB 180 36.9GB（Ultrastar 36LZX/80）服务器硬盘\转速:10000转\缓存:4MB 900 36.9GB（Ultrastar 36LZX/68）服务器硬盘\转速:10000转\缓存:4MB$~900 40GB（Deskstar 40GV）5400转 220 20GB（Deskstar 60GXP）7200转 260 20GB（Deskstar 40GV）5400转 200 30GB（Deskstar 75GXP）7200转 310 75GB（Deskstar 75GXP）7200转 820 15GB（Travelstar 20GN）笔记本硬盘\转速:4200转\缓存:512KB 250 D:主板: 微星 845Pro2-LE(Socket,i845,SDRAM,AC97声卡) 500 845Pro (Socket,i845,SDRAM,AC97声卡) 530 850Pro5 (Socket,i850,8738声卡) 700 645UITRA (Socket478,SiS645芯片 3DDR AC97) 440 K7T266Pro (SocketA,KT266,3DDR,AC97) 420 K7T266Pro2-LE(SocketA,AC97,ATA100) 380 K7t266Pro2(SocketA,支持XP,3DDR,AC97) 410 815EPT Pro-NL(Socket370,i815EP,支持新PIII,AC97,ATA100) 360 815EP Pro-R (Socket370,i850EP,IDE RAID) 370 815EP-NL (Socket370,i815EP,AC97) 330 815ET Pro (Socket370,i815E,新PIII,i752,AC97) 450 694D Pro2-IR (Socket370,VIA694X/686B,RAID) 410 6309NL100 (Socket370,VIA694X/686B,AC97) 200 6309NL/-A (Socket370,VIA694X/686B,AC97,创新5880 230 美达 KT133B (SocketA,KT133/686B,ATA100,AC97) 200 6VA694XB (Socket370,VIA694x/686B,AC97,ATA100) 180 昂达 VP266+128M DDR 400 VP266 (Socket370,VIA/APOLLO/PRO266/AC97) 280 VK266 (SocketA,KT133A/686B/AC97/ATA100) 250 VT-133PLUS(SocketA,KT133/686B/AC97/ATA100) 250 ID815E (Socket370,i815E/i752/AC97/ATA100) 255 ID815EP (Socket370,i815EP/AC97/ATA100) 260 ID810 (Socket370,i810/ATA66/i752显卡/AC97声卡) 190 VP4-133PLUS(Socket370,VIA694x/686B/AC97/ATA100) 210 Vp4-133/M (Socket370,VIA694/596B/CMI8738声卡/ATA66) 180 VP-133 (Socket370,VIA693A/596B/CMI8738声卡/ATA66) 200 SIS730S (SocketA,SiS300/AC97/10/100M网卡) 205 SIS630E (Socket370,SIS630E/SiS300显卡/AC97) 225 E:内存IBM 128MB/ 256MB（PC-133/144Pin）90/150 256MB（PC-133/E/33L3322）1000 512MB（PC-133/E/33L3324）500 128MB（PC-133/E/33L3113）500 512MB（PC-133/E/33L3117）2800 128MB/ 256MB/512MB（PC-133/E）120/240/560 128MB（PC-133/E/33L3320）520 512MB（PC-133/E/33L3146）3000 256MB（PC-133/E/20L0247）1300 512MB（PC-133/E/20L0249）2680 Kinghorse 128MB/256MB（PC-133/144Pin）75/190 128MB（PC-133/SDRAM）70 128MB（PC-100/144Pin）70 512MB（PC-133/144Pin）1100 64MB（PC-133/144Pin）58 128MB/256MB（PC-133/E-R）150/300 512MB/1GB（PC-133/E-R）920/2500 256MB/512MB（PC-266/DDR SDRAM）200/500 256MB/512MB（PC-266/DDR SDRAM/E）260/680 128MB/256MB（PC-800/RDRAM）220/400 256MB512MB（PC-800/RDRAM/E）520/2000 64MB/256MB（PC-133/SDRAM）80/180 64MB（PC-100/144Pin）90 KINGMAX 256MB/128MB（PC-150/SDRAM）160/85 128MB（PC-133/SDRAM）70 256MB（PC-333/DDR）140 128MB（PC-100/144Pin）100 256MB（PC-2100/DDR）170 256MB（PC-133/SDRAM）162 256MB（PC-133/144Pin）300 KINGSTON 128MB/256MB（PC-133/SDRAM）80/110 256MB（PC-2100/DDR）105 128MB（PC-133/144Pin）96 512MB（PC-2100/DDR SDRAM）390 512MB（PC-133/SDRAM）410 128MB（PC-2100/DDR）78 128MB（PC-100/144Pin）100 128MB/256MB（PC-800/RDRAM）148/320 256MB（PC-100/144Pin）300 256MB（PC-133/E-R）310 256MB/512MB（PC-2100/DDR SDRAM/E-R）290/680 512MB（PC-133/E-R）700 三星 128MB/256MB（PC-800/RDRAM）180/320 128MB/256MB（PC-133/SDRAM）60/170 64MB/128MB/256MB（PC-133/E）50/110/230 64MB（PC-133/SDRAM）48 64MB128MB/256MB（PC-133/E-R）68/175/298 现代(HY) 64MB/128MB/256MB（PC-133/SDRAM）62/95/30 64MB/128MB（PC-100/144Pin）33/68 128MB/256MB（PC-266/DDR SDRAM）66/105 256MB（PC-133/144Pin）168 64MB（PC-100/SDRAM）35 F:光驱 BenQ 明基 650A/652P/656A--120/150/162元微星 52X/16X DVD--150/220元 Aopen 50X/52X--130/140元先锋 116/106S/美达12X DVD--270/350/200元台电12X DVD/16X DVD /冠军版--180/230/220元 G:显卡太阳花幻影8800/S8000PRO--480/420元太阳花幻影 S8000/S6000---350/300元微星 8808/8817--210/350元华硕AGP-7100Magic/AGP-V7700T1--200/430元小影霸小妖G9700/速配7700/7000--450/400/360元七彩虹镭风VE DDR/VE SDR--280/210元艾尔莎影雷者 GTS PRO--400元艾尔莎影雷者 311/32M--220元丽台 WinFast GeForce 256--370元盈通剑龙G3000/G9000--200/450元 H: 声卡( 原厂彩盒包装，包换三月，保修一年 ) CMI 8738 PCI 四声道 20 ESS 1989 PCI 四声道 17 MODEN 卡( 原厂彩盒包装，包换三月，保修一年 ) AG 5628 56K AG 5628 56K 40 ESS 2838 56K ESS 2838 56K 35 二:笔记本电脑(联保三年) A . IBM R30--32C(6000元) PIII1GB/128M/15GB/13.3"TFT/24XCD/56K+10/100M/WIN98 R30--62C(6100元) PIII1GB/128M/30GB/14.1"TFT/8XDVD/56K+10/100M/WIN98 R30-3BC(8100元) PIII1GB/128M/30GB/15.1"TFT/8XDVD/56K+10/100M/全内置 R30--4BC(9000元) PIII1.13GB/128M/30GB/15.1"TFT/8XDVD/56K+10/100M/全内置 R30--4CC(8600元) PIII1.13GB/128M/30GB/15.1"TFT/8XDVD/56K/全内置/无线网卡 R30--64C(9000元) PIII1.2GB/128M/48GB/15.1"TFT/DVD+CDRW/56K+10/100M/全内置 A22P-URC(8600元) PIII1GB/128M/32GB/15.1"TFT/CDRW/56K/全内置 T23- 2TC(6500元) PIII1GB/128M/20GB/14.1"TFT/DVD/56K+10/100M T23- 4NC(8600元) PIII1.13GB/128M/30GB/14.1"TFT/8XDVD/56K+10/100M/光软互换薄/WIN2000/无线网卡 T23- 5DC(8500元) PIII1.2GB/128M/48GB/14..1"TFT/8XDVD/56K+10/100M/W2000 T23- 5FC(9000元) PIII1.2GB/128M/48GB/14.1"TFT/8XDVD/56K/W2000/无线网卡 T23- 6UC(9200元) PIII1GB/128M/20GB/14.1"TFT/8XDVD/56K+10/100M/XP T23- 4MC(9100元) PIII1.13GB/128M/30GB/14.1"TFT/8XDVD/56K+10/100M T23- 9TC(9200元) PIII1.2GB/256M/60GB/14.1"TFT/8XDVD/56K/无线网卡/XP X22- QJC(8300元) PIII800/128M/20GB/12.1"TFT/DVD+底座/56K+10/100M/无线网卡 X22- QHC(7600元) PIII800/128M/20GB/12.1"TFT/DVD+底座/56K+10/100M B . 索尼 SONY SR/27K(4500元) PIII750/128M/30GB/10.4“TFT/CDROM/56K/NO FDD SR/X77(5500元) PIII800/128M/20GB/10.4“TFT/蓝牙就绪/CDROM/56K/NO FDD R-505JE(5200元) PIII850/128M/20GB/12.1"TFT/56K+10/100M/DVD底座 R-505JS (6200元) PIII850/256M/30GB/12.1"TFT/56K+10/100M/DVD+CDRW底座 GR370(5800元) PIII1.13GB/256M/30GB/15.1"TFT/CDRW+DVD/56K+10/100M/全内置 GR390(6000元) PIII1.2GB/512M/30GB/15.1"TFT/CDRW+DVD/56K+10/100M/全内置 FX340(4800元) PIII900/128M/15GB/14.1"TFT/CDRW+DVD/56K+10/100M/全内置 C1MR-BP(5000元) Crouse667/128M/20GB/8.9TFT/56K/内置摄相头/CD+FDD C.富士通 FUJITSU C6651 PIII1.13G/256M/20G/8XDVD/14.1"TFT/56K/100M/TV-OUT/支持蓝牙/3K￥6200 P1030 Cruse700/128M/20G/8.9"tft/56K/100M/0.88Kg￥4180 C7631 PIII1.13G/256M/30G/8XDVD/15.1"TFT/56K/100M/TV-OUT/支持蓝牙/3K￥6800 D. 东芝 TOSHIBA 3440CT PIII500/64M/6G/11.3"XGA/100M/8M显存/FDD￥5800 　 3490CT PIII 700/128M/20G/11.3"XGA/56K/100M/FDD￥7800 　 3480CT PIII 600/64M/12G/11.3XGA/56K/100M/FDD￥5000 　　 4000DVD PIII 750/128M/20G/12.1"XGA/56K/100M/8XDVD/蓝牙￥6800 　 2000 PIII750/256M/20G/12.1”TFT/56K/100M/无光软驱/1.18Kg￥12000 　　 S31CDT PIII700/128M/20G/24XCD/12.1"TFT/56K/100M/1394￥8500 　　 S31DVD PIII700/128M/20G/12.1"XGA/8XDVD/56K/100M/1394￥6000 　　 1800CTD C800/64M/15G/13.1"TFT/24XCD/56K/100M/1394￥9988 1800XDVD C1100/256M/20G/14.1”TFT/8XDVDCDRW/56K/100M/全内置￥4500 　　 1800XDVD C1066/256M/15G/14”TFT/8XDVD/56K/光软互换￥4000 　　 1810XCDT PIII 1G/128M/20G/13.3''''TFT/24XCD/56K/100M￥7000 　　 1800XCDT PIII 1G/128M/20G/13.3''TFT/CDRW/56K/100M￥6000 　　 1810XDVD PIII 1G/256M/20G/14.1"TFT/8XDVD/56K/100M￥7000 　　 1810XDVD PIII 1G/128M/20G/14.1"TFT/8XDVDRW/56K/100M￥8000 　　 1810XDVD PIII 1.1G/128M/20G/14.1"TFT/8XDVD/56K/100M￥6800 　　 2800XDVD PIII 800/128M/20G/14.1"TFT/8XDVD/56K/100M/8M显存￥5800 　　 2800ZDVD PIII 900/128M/30G/15"TFT/DVD CDRW/56K/100M/ GFII 16M￥10000 　　 3000XDVD PIII 850/128M/20G/DVD CDRW/14.1"TFT/56K/100M/1394/GFII 16M ￥7600 　 3000XDVD PIII 1G/128M/20G/8XDVD/14.1"TFT/56K/100M/1394/GFII 16M￥8600 　　　 4600xDVD PIII 850/128M/20G/DVD/14.1"TFT/56K/100M/16M 显存/预留蓝牙￥9000 　 4600 PIII 800/64M/15G/24XCD/13.3"TFG/56K/100M/16M 显存/预留蓝牙￥6600 　　 4600ZDVD PIII 900/128M/30G/DVD/14.1"TFT/56K/100M/16M 显存/预留蓝牙￥9600 　　 4600ZDVD PIII 800/128M/20G/8XDVD/15"TFT/56K/100M/16M 显存/预留蓝牙￥8800 　　 6000XDVD PIII1G/128M/20G/8XDVD/14.1”TFT/56K/100M /16M 显存/无软驱￥7400 　　 6000ZDVD PIII1.33G/256M/30G/8XDVD3/15”TFT/56K/100M /16M 显存/无软驱￥10000 　 2000 PIII1G/256M/20G/8XDVD/14.1”TFT/56K/100M/软驱外挂￥9000 　 8200J PIII 900/256M/20G/14.1"TFT/8XDVD/16M 显存/蓝牙￥10800 　　 8200L PIII 1G/256M/20G/SXGA 14.1"TFT/CDRW+DVD/16MB显存/蓝牙￥10000 　　 9000 PIII 1G/256M/20G/8XDVD/14.1"TFT/56K/100M￥11800 E.康柏 COMPAQ 1714SC(6200元) PIII1.06GB/256M/30GB/14.1"TFT/DVD/56K+10/100M/1394/XP/超薄互换　 1715SC(7600元) PIII1.06GB/256M/30GB/14.1"TFT/DVD+CDRW/56K+10/100M/1394/XP/超薄互换　 2700SC(8600元) PIII1.13GB/256M/30GB/15.1"TFT/DVD+CDRW/56K+10/100M/16M/XP/全内置　 N400c(6300元) PIII850/128M/20GB/12.1"TFT/56K+10/100M/超轻超薄　 E500(4300元) PIII900/128M/20GB/14.1"TFT/24XCD/56K+10/100M/全内置　 E500(6000元) PIII1GB/128M/30GB/15.1"TFT/8DVD/56K+10/100M/全内置　三：数码照相机佳能（CANON) Digital Ixus 1600×1200/211万像素￥1780 EOS D30 1600×1200/325万像素￥11000 Power Shot S10 1600×1200/211万像素￥1900 PowerShot G1 2048×1536/334万像素￥3100 PowerShot Pro70 1280×1024/168万像素￥4400 PowerShot S100 1600×1200/211万像素￥1880 PowerShot S20 1600×1200/334万像素￥2800 DIGITAL IXUS 300 CCD像素2110000/分辨率1688/光学变焦倍数3 ￥2000 柯达（KODAK) DC215 100万像素/1152*864/8MB/2倍光学￥1080 DC240 130万像素/1280*960/8MB/2倍光学/3倍数码￥1800 DC280变焦数码相机 1760 x 1168 像素/30 至 60 毫米等效焦距￥2380 DC290 230万像素/2240*1500/16MB/3倍光学/2倍数码￥3000 DC3400 1760×1168/230万像素￥2000 DC3800 1792×1200/210万像素￥1900 DC4800 柯达数码相机/330万像素/2160*1400/16MB/3倍光学/2倍数码￥2800 DX3600 220万像素，2倍光学，3倍数码，内置8M CF ￥1250 mc3 数码相机数码静态相机,24位色￥1100 DC290 CCD像素2304012/分辨率2204/光学变焦倍数3 ￥2500 DX3500 220万像素，3倍数码变焦,内置8MCF ￥1000 理光（RICOH） RDC-7 334万像素CCD/3倍光学变焦/3.2倍数码变焦￥3100 RDC 4200 CCD像素1320000/分辨率1280/光学变焦倍数3 ￥3000 RDC 5300 CCD像素2300000/分辨率1792/光学变焦倍数3 ￥3400 索尼（SONY） DSC-F505V CCD像素3340000/分辨率2240/光学变焦倍数5 ￥3300 DSC-F55V CCD像素3300000/分辨率2240 ￥2900 DSC-F707 CCD像素5240000/分辨率2560/光学变焦倍数5 ￥3500 DSC-P1 CCD像素3340000/分辨率2048/光学变焦倍数3 ￥2600 DSC-P20 CCD像素1300000/分辨率1216 ￥800 DSC-P3 CCD像素3338000/分辨率1280 ￥1800 DSC-P30 CCD像素1300000/分辨率1280/光学变焦倍数3 ￥900 DSC-P5 CCD像素3338000/分辨率2048/光学变焦倍数3 ￥2000 DSC-P50 CCD像素2100000/分辨率1600/光学变焦倍数3 ￥1150 DSC-S70 CCD像素3340000/分辨率2048/光学变焦倍数3 ￥2300 MVC-CD1000 CCD像素2110000/分辨率1600/光学变焦倍数10 ￥6500 MVC-CD200 CCD像素2100000/分辨率1600/光学变焦倍数3 ￥2500 MVC-CD300 CCD像素3340000/分辨率2048 ￥3100 MVC-FD95 CCD像素2110000/分辨率1280/光学变焦倍数10 ￥4000 四：数码摄像机(全球联保单) SONY DSR-PD150P/DCR-PC115E/TRV-330E/TRV-130E 12000元 /5000 元 / 2800 元 /2200元 PANASONIC DVC15---6000元/VZ10---1800元 JVC DR-DV2000---5800元/GR-DVL9300---3000元 SAMSUNG VP-D60---2300元/VP-M50---1300元 SHARP VL-PD6E---5000元 CANON DM-XLIS---13000元/MV400i---3000元五:移动电话(RMB):(全国联保) 诺基亚:8850/8250/8310/8210/8855 1100/700/1500/500/1600元摩托罗拉:V60/V66/V70/388 1400/800/1000/600/600/1500/1600元三星:SGH-A400/A288/N288/T108 1400/1000/700/1700元西门子:6688--1500 欢迎来电垂询！013515049234 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27 Sep '02

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House will be busy next week fighting terrorism
by Declan McCullagh 27 Sep '02

27 Sep '02

-- S. 2690, the Pledge of Allegiance Reaffirmation Act. Sponsored by Senator Tim Hutchinson, this bill reaffirms the motto "In God we trust" and the language of the Pledge of Allegiance in its entirety, including the phrase "one Nation under God." The Senate passed this bill on June 27, 2002 by a vote of 99-0. The bill was approved by the House Judiciary Committee on September 10, 2002 by a voice vote.

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RE: RSA's RC5-64 Secret Key Challenge has been solved.
by Peter Clay 27 Sep '02

27 Sep '02

On Thu, 26 Sep 2002, Lucky Green wrote: > Software defined radios would be well-suited to task, but those who > expended the effort of writing software-defined cellular telephony > modules so far understandably chose to sell the fruits of their labor to > paying customers rather than releasing the code as Open Source. The GNU project has a SDR implementation, which claims to implement at least a plain FM receiver, and has GSM as a "future direction": http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuradio/gnuradio.html Of course, as soon as someone implements a satellite PPV decoder on top of it the entire technology will probably be banned :( Pete -- Peter Clay | Campaign for _ _| .__ | Digital / / | | | Rights! \_ \_| | | http://uk.eurorights.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe cryptography" to majordomo(a)wasabisystems.com

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RE: RSA's RC5-64 Secret Key Challenge has been solved.
by Trei, Peter 27 Sep '02

27 Sep '02

> Ralf-P. Weinmann[SMTP:weinmann@cdc.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de] wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 02:45:12PM -0700, John Gilmore wrote: > > [...] > > > > After getting that getting started, though, I suggest beginning a > > brute-force attack on the GSM cellphone encryption algorithm. That's > > in use in hundreds of millions of devices worldwide, protecting (or > > failing to protect) the privacy of billions of phone calls a day. > > Is A5/3 deployed yet? If not, a brute force attack is not needed, for A5/1 > and > A5/2 more efficient tools exist to cryptanalyse it. Even in real-time, > although > you might need to invest in some hard disk space before being able to > eavesdrop > and intercept. See the following paper for more information: > > "A. Biryukov, A. Shamir and D. Wagner, Real Time Cryptanalysis of A5/1 on > a PC" > > As for A5/3, I'm not really sure what key length network operators > are/will be > using, 64-128 bits are allowed in the design requirements documentation. > The > specification should be available on the 3GPP website. A5/3 is based on > Kasumi. > > Cheers, > Ralf > I spoke to David McNett (nugget(a)distributed.net) yesterday. He told me that they intend to fire up a the RC5-72 challenge, hoping to get lucky and find the key near the beginning. I think they're open to other suggestions, however. Factoring may or may not be reasonable. While RC5, DES, etc require minimal memory and storage, and can so run unobtrusively in the spare cycles of almost any machine, factoring, - even the seiving step - has large memory and storage requirements. The matrix reduction step at the end does not have any efficient distributed implementation I'm aware of. I think the lower RSA factoring challenges *may* be possible - RSA-576 is still standing, with a $10k prize. Other factoring challenges have up to $200k prizes. Challenges need to be carefully set up. It must be legal - hacking a deployed system in the face of the objections of the owner won't fly. It must be credible, in that there must be no reason to suspect collaboration between the challenger and the attacker. It must be realistic - it should model a real-world use closely enough to show that changes need to be made (the RSA secret key challenges where designed with IPSEC headers in mind - the single DES option was deprecated as soon as we showed that to be weak). This is an exciting time. With RC5-64 fallen, there are a lot of options for what to do next. The most interesting thing may not involve cryptanalysis. Peter Trei --------------------------------------------------------------------- The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe cryptography" to majordomo(a)wasabisystems.com

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Anyone can get a clearance these days...
by Adam Shostack 27 Sep '02

27 Sep '02

"The US Government has mistakenly given secret documents to the only man charged so far in connection with the 11 September attacks, Zacarias Moussaoui." http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2284325.stm -- "It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once." -Hume

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New product alerts
by buyer 27 Sep '02

27 Sep '02

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thinkofthechildren.co.uk censored
by Major Variola (ret) 27 Sep '02

27 Sep '02

http://www.TheRegUS.com/content/6/26426.html Host pulls satire site after police 'incitement' claim By Tim Richardson Posted: 09/25/2002 at 05:51 EST A satirical Web site that attempted to parody concerns over child safety has been shut down following the intervention of police. Thinkofthechildren.co.uk was pulled on Monday after officers from the Metropolitan Police Service's Obscene Publications and Internet Unit contacted the site's hosts alleging that that it could incite others to violence. Police said they approached Host Europe after they received a number of complaints about the site from concerned members of the public. Host Europe shut down the site after they failed to contact the site's owner. However, the incident has sparked a strongly worded response from those running the site. A message reads: "Sorry, Thinkofthechildren.co.uk has been torched by an angry mob." "There was no warrant issued. No form of official order at all. Just a polite request - which was immediately complied with," it says. For those of who didn't see the site before it was pulled, the first paragraph read: "We are concerned parents, many of whom have children of our own and who want the law changed to protect them. Every day in Britain happy, popular children who do well at school are being murdered by evil paedophile scum. Well enough's enough! Its time the law got tough on child murderers." However, the site's owners claim this was all part of the satire and explain that it should be interpreted as follows: "This is a work of satire. It might not be very funny satire, but it is satire. It is in no way an incitement to commit mob violence. It is quite obvious to anyone who reads any of the words on the site that it is a piece of comment on Britain's tabloid-fuelled, pig-ignorant mob culture." Those behind the site say they are seeking legal advice before deciding what to do next. They conclude: "I'll leave you to ponder the irony of a site parodying mob culture being removed on the basis of complaints from a tiny group of very stupid - but very loud - members of the public." No one from Thinkofthechildren.co.uk was available for comment at the time of writing. .

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Satirewire: HACKERS BEG BORING PEOPLE TO STOP ENCRYPTING EMAI
by Bill Stewart 27 Sep '02

27 Sep '02

http://www.satirewire.com/news/aug02/encryption.shtml HACKERS BEG BORING PEOPLE TO STOP ENCRYPTING EMAIL Security Experts Concur Most of You Have Nothing Worth Encrypting Anyway San Jose, Calif. (SatireWire.com) In an unusual worldwide appeal, the International Brotherhood of Computer Hackers today asked particularly boring people to please stop encrypting their emails. Please think of others when you encrypt [pictures of messages] Cracking messages like this are a waste of valuable hacker time, say hackers. According to IBCH President Bjvrn Haxor, hackers spend thousands of hours intercepting and cracking open encrypted emails believing it to be "the good stuff" only to find most contain little more than "Two priests walk into a bar," or "Hi Bob, here's my new email address." "Maybe you think hacking coded messages is simple, but it's not well, except for the Microsoft Outlook ones," said Haxor. "The rest of it is a pain in the backdoor. So here's a tip: if you encrypt just because you want to keep your personal information 'secret,' but all you're encrypting is blather about your stupid promotion or a recipe for fruit salad, guess what? Your secret's already out. You're dull." ..............[more]

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Re: What good are smartcard readers for PCs
by Ben Laurie 26 Sep '02

26 Sep '02

Lisa wrote: > They are also actively used to modify DirecTV & Dish Network access cards > to steal service. Damn. We'd better ban them then. I've heard this Interweb thingy is used to steal content - should we ban that, too? -- http://www.apache-ssl.org/ben.html http://www.thebunker.net/ "There is no limit to what a man can do or how far he can go if he doesn't mind who gets the credit." - Robert Woodruff

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by profitking＠yahoo.com 26 Sep '02

26 Sep '02

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I spent $25 ordering the reports, and the other $25 paying a parking ticket. I followed the instructions meticulously - I thought I would at least get my original $25 back. As soon as I got the email out, not One week went by before I quadrupled my $25. I'd take that over the Patriots any day. I got excited, and that's when it started to explode. In less than 6 weeks I was already up $9500 bucks. It's been almost 4 months, and the flow hasn't stopped. On an average day, I get anwhere from $500 - $1500 in the mail. I always say that everything happens for a reason, and I feel that this was meant to be, maybe it is for you too. Just stick to the steps, do everything it says - and all of your hopes and dreams will be real - I promise." Greg Moran, Boston, MA. For more success stories and photos, go to http://www.cashbynet.net $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ FOLLOW THE SIMPLE INSTRUCTION BELOW AND YOUR FINANCIAL DREAMS WILL COME TRUE, GUARANTEED. BE SURE TO SAVE A COPY OF THIS EMAIL AS A TEXT DOCUMENT FOR REFERENCE!!!! INSTRUCTIONS: =====Order all 5 reports from your personal CBN money list below ===== For each report, send $5 CASH, THE NAME & NUMBER OF THE REPORT YOU ARE ORDERING and YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS to the person whose name appears ON THAT LIST next to the report. MAKE SURE YOUR RETURN ADDRESS IS ON YOUR ENVELOPE TOP LEFT CORNER in case of any mail problems. === MAKE SURE YOU ORDER EACH OF THE 5 REPORTS === You will need all 5 reports so that you can save them on your computer and redistribute them. YOUR TOTAL START UP INVESTMENT: $5 X 5 = $25.00. Within a few days you will receive, via e-mail, each of the 5 reports from these 5 different individuals. Save them on your computer so they will be accessible for you to send to the 1,000's of people who will order them from you. Also make a floppy of these reports and keep it on your desk in case something happens to your computer. IMPORTANT - DO NOT ALTER THE NAMES OR SEQUENCE OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LISTED NEXT TO EACH REPORT. FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS 1-6 VERY CLOSELY OR YOU WILL LOSE OUT ON THE MAJORITY OF THE PROFIT WHICH IS DUE TO YOU!! Once you understand the way this works, you will also see how it does not work if you alter it. Remember, this method has been tested, and proved and if you alter it, it will NOT work !!! This is a legitimate BUSINESS. You are offering a product for sale and getting paid for it. Treat it as such and you will be VERY profitable in a short period of time, and have something many people can't - a profitable business enterprise (and more money to do WHATEVER YOU COULD POSSIBLY WANT). For more information go to http://www.cashbynet.net ================================================== HERE IS YOUR PERSONAL CBN MONEY LIST : ================================================== REPORT# 1: 'The Insider's Guide To Advertising for Free On The Net Order Report #1 from: SPS 258 Harvard Street #306 Brookline, MA 02446 USA _______________________________________________________ REPORT # 2: The Insider's Guide To Sending Bulk Email On The Net Order Report # 2 from: Matt Colley 304 Twain Circle Bluff City, TN 37618 _______________________________________________________ REPORT # 3: Secret To Multilevel Marketing On The Net Order Report # 3 from : Greg Ferris 264 S. La Cienega Blvd. #1066 Beverly Hills, CA 90211 USA _______________________________________________________ REPORT # 4: How To Become A Millionaire Using MLM & The Net Order Report # 4 from: Tami C. Ickes 1667 Cumberland Road Bedford, PA 15522 USA _______________________________________________________ REPORT #5: How To Send Out One Million Emails For Free Order Report # 5 From: B. Turner 60 McKerrell Way SE Calgary, Alberta, Canada T2Z 1R7 _______________________________________________________ ORDER EACH REPORT BY ITS NUMBER & NAME ONLY. Notes: Always send $5 USD cash for each Report. Checks NOT accepted. Make sure the cash is concealed by wrapping it in at least 2 sheets of paper. On one of those sheets of paper, Write the NUMBER & the NAME of the Report you are ordering, YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS, your name AND postal address. _______________________________________________________ PLEASE READ ON . . . ======================= IMPORTANT!! STEPS 1-6 ======================= 1.. After you have ordered all 5 reports from your CBN money list, take this original saved email and REMOVE the name & address of the person in REPORT # 5. This person has made it through the cycle and is no doubt counting their fortune. 2.. Move the name & address in REPORT # 4 down TO REPORT # 5. 3.. Move the name & address in REPORT # 3 down TO REPORT # 4. 4.. Move the name & address in REPORT # 2 down TO REPORT # 3. 5.. Move the name & address in REPORT # 1 down TO REPORT # 2 6.. Insert YOUR name & address in the REPORT # 1 Position. PLEASE MAKE SURE you copy every name & address ACCURATELY! This is critical to YOUR success. ================================================== **** SAVE THE NEW MODIFIED EMAIL, AS THIS WILL BE THE OFFICIAL DOCUMENT WHICH YOU WILL SEND TO PROSPECTIVE CUSTOMERS. BE SURE TO HAVE YOUR NAME IN THE #1 POSITION AND THAT YOU DO NOT MAKE ANY OTHER CHANGES TO THIS DOCUMENT. THIS IS CRITICAL TO THE PERFORMANCE OF YOUR BUSINESS AND SUBSEQUENTLY THE SIZE OF YOUR PROFITS.**** As soon as you receive all 5 reports via email SAVE A COPY OF THEM! These are the products that your customers are paying for. Not only do these reports hold the secrets and instructions for your new venture, you will be redistributing them to customers when you receive payment. To assist you with marketing your business on the internet, the 5 reports will provide you with valuable marketing information on how to send bulk e-mails legally, where to find thousands of free classified ads and much more. There are 2 Primary methods you will use to get this venture going: METHOD # 1: BY SENDING BULK E-MAIL LEGALLY ================================================== Let's say that you decide to start small, just to see how it goes, and we will assume You and those involved send out only 5,000 e-mails each. Let's also assume that the mailing receive only a 0.2% (2/10 of 1%) response (the response could be much better but lets just say it is only 0.2%). Also many people will send out hundreds of thousands e-mails instead of only 5,000 each). Continuing with this example, you send out only 5,000 e-mails. With a 0.2% response, that is only 10 orders for report # 1. Those 10 people responded by sending out 5,000 e-mail each for a total of 50,000. Out of those 50,000 e-mails only 0.2% responded with orders. That's=100 people responded and ordered Report # 2. Those 100 people mail out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of 500,000 e-mails. The 0.2% response to that is 1000 orders for Report # 3. Those 1000 people send 5,000 e-mail each for a total of 5 million e-mail sent out. The 0.2% response is 10,000 orders for Report # 4. Those 10,000 people send out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of 50,000,000 (50 million) e-mails. The 0.2% response to that is 100,000 orders for Report # 5. THAT'S 100,000 ORDERS TIMES $5 EACH = $500,000.00 (half a million dollars). Your total income in this example is: 1..... $50 + 2..... $500 + 3..... $5,000 + 4..... $50,000 + 5.... $500,000 .... Grand Total=$555,550.00 REMEMBER, THIS IS ASSUMING ONLY 10 PEOPLE ORDERING OUT OF 5,000 YOU MAILED TO. Dare to think for a moment what would happen if everyone or half or even one 4th of those people mailed 100,000 e-mails each or more? THE NUMBERS DON'T LIE. VISIT CBN AT http://www.cashbynet.net/Calculator/ to plug in your own numbers and see the results. METHOD # 2: BY PLACING FREE ADS ON THE INTERNET ================================================== Advertising on the net is extremely inexpensive and there are hundreds of FREE places to advertise. Placing a lot of free ads on the Internet will easily get a larger response than just emails alone. We strongly suggest you start with Method # 1 and add METHOD #2 as you begin to become more knowledgeable about the business and study the 5 reports. Remember to always provide same day service on all orders to ensure proper return on the back end - this means quicker profits for you. $$$$$$$$$ YOUR SUCCESS GUIDELINES $$$$$$$$$$$ Follow these guidelines to guarantee your success: === If you do not receive at least 10 orders for Report #1 within 2 weeks, continue sending e-mails until you do. === After you have received 10 orders, 2 to 3 weeks after that you should receive 100 orders or more for REPORT # 2. If you did not, continue advertising or sending e-mails until you do. **ONCE YOU HAVE RECEIVED 100 OR MORE ORDERS FOR REPORT # 2, YOU CAN RELAX, because the system is already working for you, and the cash will continue to roll in ! THIS IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER: Every time your name is moved down on the list, you are placed in front of a different report. You can KEEP TRACK of your PROGRESS by watching which report people are ordering from you. IF YOU WANT TO GENERATE MORE INCOME SEND ANOTHER BATCH OF E-MAILS AND START THE WHOLE PROCESS AGAIN. There is NO LIMIT to the income you can generate from this business !!! ================================================= FOLLOWING IS A NOTE FROM THE ORIGINATOR OF CASH BY NET: Cash By Net has become a very popular business for many sole proprietors. However, this program will only work if you are willing to put in the time and effort to make it work. This is not a program for everybody. If you are just a passer by, and don't have a personal vision of success, delete this now. Life all comes down to a few opportunities - this is one of them. Have the courage to be free, and have the drive to reach your goals. Before you start working with us, take 10 minutes and write down your personal goals. What do you want in 5 years? 1 year? 6 months? Be realistic - set your goals high enough so you will work hard to reach them. 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Portable Handheld Sewing Machine - On Sale
by Handy Stitch 26 Sep '02

26 Sep '02

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RC5-64 solved
by Graham Lally 26 Sep '02

26 Sep '02

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Just noticed on /. that distributed.net wound up 4 years of intense CPU cycles, by getting the key to RSA's RC5-64 challenge. Distributed.net release: http://www.distributed.net/pressroom/news-20020926.html "On 14-Jul-2002, a relatively characterless PIII-450 in Tokyo returned the winning key to the distributed.net keyservers. The key 0x63DE7DC154F4D03 produces the plaintext output: ~ The unknown message is: some things are better left unread Unfortunately, due to breakage in scripts (dbaker's fault, naturally) on the keymaster, this successful submission was not automatically detected. It sat undiscovered until 12-Aug-2002. The key was immediately submitted to RSA Labs and was verified as the winning key." .g - -- "I look at your tanks, at the snipers, at the whole army, and feel joy. Because I know that these two rooms, in which we are huddled together, are stronger than all this might." - Tawfiq Tirawi -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE9kzjcwT+AXPPRTIgRAp0DAKCFFkATGFsZeGZBwH45LTjz7tsmbgCfRWtG /9JbYOtw5OAcGQOL9AZyh4I= =X9e5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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RSA's RC5-64 Secret Key Challenge has been solved.
by Trei, Peter 26 Sep '02

26 Sep '02

First, the official PR release: --------------------------------------------------- Distributed Team Collaborates to Solve Secret-Key Challenge Contest designed to keep the cryptographic community updated on new achievements and help organizations maintain highest levels of security Bedford, MA, Thursday, September 26, 2002 - RSA Laboratories, the research center of RSA Security Inc. (Nasdaq: RSAS), the most trusted name in e-security(r), today announced that a coordinated team of computer programmers and enthusiasts, known as distributed.net, has solved the RC5-64 Secret-Key Challenge. The distributed.net team solved the challenge in approximately four years, using 331,252 volunteers and their machines. Distributed.net receives a cash prize of $10,000 for solving the challenge. Established in 1997, RSA Laboratories' Secret-Key Challenge is offered to quantify the strength of symmetric encryption algorithms such as DES and the RC5(r) algorithm with various key sizes. By sponsoring an actual contest, RSA Laboratories helps the industry confirm theoretical estimates, and through this constant evaluation, vendors are motivated to continue to improve their security solutions. The distributed.net consortium utilized the idle time of computers throughout the world to search through the list of all possible 64-bit keys for RSA Security's RC5 algorithm to find the one secret key selected at random by RSA Laboratories that decrypts a given message correctly. RSA Laboratories sponsors a series of cryptographic challenges that allow individuals or groups to attempt to solve various encryption "puzzles" for cash prizes. The RC5-64 Challenge is one of a series of contests held to determine the difficulty of finding a symmetric encryption key by exhaustive search (trial-and-error). Previous contests include the DES Challenge, the RC5-40 Challenge and the RC5-56 Challenge. "We're very appreciative of all the volunteers who offered their time and computer's idle processing time to help solve this challenge," said David McNett, distributed.net co-founder and president. "We have once again shown how collective computing power can be applied to security technology with ordinary PCs. We look forward to future RSA Laboratories-sponsored challenges that will assist in helping the cryptographic community gauge the strength of an algorithm or application against exhaustive key search." "RSA Security congratulates the distributed.net team in solving the RC5-64 Secret-Key Challenge," said Burt Kaliski, chief scientist at RSA Laboratories. "We appreciate the persistence of distributed.net and the many individuals involved in completing the search for this one key. Their work helps the industry confirm how much work is involved to search exhaustively for a key - and how a huge volume of computing time can be harnessed. The various challenges we sponsor are very useful for tracking the state of cryptographic achievements and helping ensure that organizations are maintaining the highest levels of security to protect their most critical data assets." ---- About RSA Security Inc. RSA Security Inc., the most trusted name in e-security, helps organizations build trusted e-business processes through its RSA SecurID(r) two-factor authentication, RSA ClearTrust(r) Web access management, RSA BSAFE(r) encryption and RSA Keon(r) digital certificate management product families. With approximately one billion RSA BSAFE-enabled applications in use worldwide, more than 12 million RSA SecurID authentication users and almost 20 years of industry experience, RSA Security has the proven leadership and innovative technology to address the changing security needs of e-business and bring trust to the online economy. RSA Security can be reached at www.rsasecurity.com. RSA, RC5, BSAFE, ClearTrust, Keon, SecurID and The Most Trusted Name in e-Security are registered trademarks or trademarks of RSA Security Inc. in the United States and/or other countries. All other products and services mentioned are trademarks of their respective companies. --------------------------------- A personal note: In case people are wondering, the key turned out to be 63 DE 7D C1 54 F4 D0 39 and the encrypted message was > "The unknown message is: Some things are better left unread." > I'm really happy with this - I wrote to Jim Bidzos proposing the contests way back in the fall of 1996, long before I came to work at RSA. At the time, I was aimed at killing DES, and creating pressure to ease the export limits on key size (they had just been raised from a ludicrous 40 up to 56. I didn't think this was good enough). I feel that I entirely suceeded. So I was in at the start of the contests, and at the end of this one (I was one of the two people at RSA who independently confirmed the decryption). I expect that this will be the last one attacked for a while - the next keylength is 72 bits, and at d.net's current rate, that would take them several centuries. Peter Trei --------------------------------------------------------------------- The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe cryptography" to majordomo(a)wasabisystems.com

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26 Sep '02

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25 Sep '02

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Re: What good are smartcard readers for PCs
by James A. Donald 25 Sep '02

25 Sep '02

-- James A. Donald> > > Increasingly however, we see smartcard interfaces sold for > > PCs. What for, I wonder? On 24 Sep 2002 at 1:41, Bill Stewart wrote: > I'm not convinced that the number of people selling them is > closely related to the number of people buying; this could be > another field like PKIs where the marketeers and cool > business plans never succeeded at getting customers to use > them. On 24 Sep 2002 at 19:12, Peter Gutmann wrote: > Companies buy a few readers for their developers who write > software to work with the cards. [...] Eventually the > clients discover how much of a bitch they are to work with > [....] users decide to live with software-only crypto until > the smart card scene is a bit more mature. > > Given that n_users >> n_card_vendors, this situation can keep > going for quite some time. I have found that the administrative costs of PKI are intolerable. End users do not really understand crypto, and so will fuck up. Only engineers can really control a PKI certificate, and for the most part they just do not. In principle the thingness of a smartcard should reduce administrative costs to a low level -- they should supposedly act like a purse, a key, a credit card, hence near zero user training required. The simulated thingness created by cryptographic cleverness should be manifested to the user as physical thingness of the card. Suppose, for example, we had working Chaumian digicash. Now imagine how much trouble the average end user is going to get into with backups, and with moving digicash from one computer to another. If all unused Chaumian tokens live in a smartcard, one might expect the problem to vanish. The purselike character of the card sustains the coin like character of Chaumian tokens. Of course if one has to supply the correct driver for the smart card, then the administration problem reappears. USB smartcard interfaces could solve this problem. Just plug them in, and bingo, it should just go. Ummh, wait a moment, go where, do what? What happens when one plugs in a USB smartcard interface? Still, making crypto embodied in smart cards intelligible to the masses would seem to be a soluble problem, even if not yet solved, whereas software only crypto is always going to boggle the masses. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG UpBeNFF1UW7r7Fw8pVMxQG+xJ3mwsngHIp62BxL6 4D+u3ZM5e1JbeYAKaQ4dhOQrlZ42vq05cfz83rnCZ

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