August 2002 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Palladium: technical limits and implications
by AARG! Anonymous 15 Aug '02

15 Aug '02

Adam Back writes: > +---------------+------------+ > | trusted-agent | user mode | > | space | app space | > | (code +------------+ > | compartment) | supervisor | > | | mode / OS | > +---------------+------------+ > | ring -1 / TOR | > +----------------------------+ > | hardware / SCP key manager | > +----------------------------+ I don't think this works. According to Peter Biddle, the TOR can be launched even days after the OS boots. It does not underly the ordinary user mode apps and the supervisor mode system call handlers and device drivers. +---------------+------------+ | trusted-agent | user mode | | space | app space | | (code +------------+ | compartment) | supervisor | | | mode / OS | +---+ +---------------+------------+ |SCP|---| ring -1 / TOR | +---+ +---------------+ This is more how I would see it. The SCP is more like a peripheral device, a crypto co-processor, that is managed by the TOR. Earlier you quoted Seth's blog: | The nub is a kind of trusted memory manager, which runs with more | privilege than an operating system kernel. The nub also manages access | to the SCP. as justification for putting the nub (TOR) under the OS. But I think in this context "more privilege" could just refer to the fact that it is in the secure memory, which is only accessed by this ring--1 or ring-0 or whatever you want to call it. It doesn't follow that the nub has anything to do with the OS proper. If the OS can run fine without it, as I think you agreed, then why would the entire architecture have to reorient itself once the TOR is launched? In other words, isn't my version simpler, as it adjoins the column at the left to the pre-existing column at the right, when the TOR launches, days after boot? Doesn't it require less instantaneous, on-the-fly, reconfiguration of the entire structure of the Windows OS at the moment of TOR launch? And what, if anything, does my version fail to accomplish that we know that Palladium can do? > Integrity Metrics in a given level are computed by the level below. > > The TOR starts Trusted Agents, the Trusted Agents are outside the OS > control. Therefore a remote application based on remote attestation > can know about the integrity of the trusted-agent, and TOR. > > ring -1/TOR is computed by SCP/hardware; Trusted Agent is computed by > TOR; I had thought the hardware might also produce the metrics for trusted agents, but you could be right that it is the TOR which does so. That would be consistent with the "incremental extension of trust" philosophy which many of these systems seem to follow. > The parallel stack to the right: OS is computed by TOR; Application is > computed OS. No, that doesn't make sense. Why would the TOR need to compute a metric of the OS? Peter has said that Palladium does not give information about other apps running on your machine: : Note that in Pd no one but the user can find out the totality of what SW is : running except for the nub (aka TOR, or trusted operating root) and any : required trusted services. So a service could say "I will only communicate : with this app" and it will know that the app is what it says it is and : hasn't been perverted. The service cannot say "I won't communicate with this : app if this other app is running" because it has no way of knowing for sure : if the other app isn't running. > So for general applications you still have to trust the OS, but the OS > could itself have it's integrity measured by the TOR. Of course given > the rate of OS exploits especially in Microsoft products, it seems > likley that the aspect of the OS that checks integrity of loaded > applications could itself be tampered with using a remote exploit. Nothing Peter or anyone else has said indicates that this is a property of Palladium, as far as I can remember. > Probably the latter problem is the reason Microsoft introduced ring -1 > in palladium (it seems to be missing in TCPA). No, I think it is there to prevent debuggers and supervisor-mode drivers from manipulating secure code. TCPA is more of a whole-machine spec dealing with booting an OS, so it doesn't have to deal with the question of running secure code next to insecure code.

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Kashmir / Terrorism Conference on Saturday, Aug 17 in Union City
by Bill Stewart 15 Aug '02

15 Aug '02

---------- Forwarded Message ----------- Dear Friend: You are invited to attend a very interesting Conference on coming Saturday in Union City. A great opportunity to hear great speakers and learn more about Kashmir. At the same time, you will meet and hear FBI and Local Police about their local efforts. The event is free. - Jeevan Zutshi Indo-American Kashmir Forum Presents A Conference on Global Terrorism and Kashmir in its international Context Organized by: Indo-American Community Federation (I A C F) Saturday, August 17 12:15- 4:30 P.M James Logan High School Cafeteria (Hwy 880, take Decoto exit toward East, Left on Alvarado Niles Blvd., Second Right on H Street, Cafeteria is on your Right after Pavillion) PROGRAM 12.15- 12:45 Registration 12:45 -1:00 Welcome and Outlining Theme of the Conference By Jeevan Zutshi, Director of the Conference Moderator: Dr. Subroto Kundu, Past President, AAPIO 1.00 - 2.00 PANEL I Congressman Pete Stark, Keynote Speaker "Terrorism in Jammu and Kashmir - Its International Context," Professor D.R.SarDesai, UCLA "Indian Army and Human Rights in the context of counter terrorism and counter insurgency," Prof. M. M. Zaki, Ex. Brigadier, Indian Army San Francisco State University, CA "Kashmir - A Multi-Ethnic State; Kashmiri Point of View," Jeevan Zutshi, Founding Member and National Director, Indo-American Kashmir Forum 2:00 - 3:30 PANEL II "Terrorism Policies of America, India and Pakistan", Prof. Sanjoy Banerjee, San Francisco State University "Terrorism and the Media", Lt. Col. K.K.Puri, Ph.D. from Delhi, India "Resolution of Kashmir imbroglio", Major General Moti Dar from Kashmir, India Question and Answer session moderated by Dr. Subhash Garg, I A C F 3:30 - 4:30 PANEL III Special Panel discussion on Terrorism and Local efforts: Randy Cook, F B I Supervisory Special Agent on International Terrorism; Craig Steckler, Police Chief, City of Fremont. ------- End of Forwarded Message -------

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Re: Spam blocklists?
by Marcel Popescu 15 Aug '02

15 Aug '02

From: "Sunder" <sunder(a)sunder.net> > None of those things work. Most spammers don't give a shit if you don't > receive email. I can attest to this by the slew of spam going to > hostmaster, webmaster, and the like on many networks. What they're really > selling is "ten million addresses" and spam software. Even if 9 million > of those are bullshit, they couldn't care less. The more things with "@" > signs in'em the more money they make off clueless businesses. We talk about different things then :) I don't care that they make money off clueless businesses... I care that they don't send ME spam. If I can solve the second problem, the first one will take care of itself. Mark

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Telepsych.2000.
by Matthew X 15 Aug '02

15 Aug '02

Introduction The Victorian Telepsychiatry Program was established in 1996 to improve access to mental health services for rural Victorians. The Program funded the establishment of 27 telepsychiatry facilities located at Area Mental Health Service sites in rural base hospitals, mental health centres and community-based locations across regional Victoria, and facilities at six specialist service locations. The specialist services targeted by the Program were: · The Mental Health Review Board (MHRB) · Forensic Mental Health Service · Early Psychosis Prevention and Intervention Centre (EPPIC) Statewide Service · Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services (CAMHS) at three locations: Austin and Repatriation Medical Centre, Royal Children's Hospital and Monash Medical Centre. The Program established linkages of two types: · Intra-service: from major rural centres such as Bendigo, to smaller rural communities such as Swan Hill and Kyneton More on http://www.health.vic.gov.au/mentalhealth/publications/telepsychiatry/

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Be Patient.
by Matthew X 15 Aug '02

15 Aug '02

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/08/10/1028158034347.html Health records base a step closer By Jenny Sinclair August 13 2002 Next Data quality and security are emerging as key issues for computerisation of patient health records around the world. Last week's Health Informatics Conference (HIC 2002) in Melbourne heard that patient records were increasingly becoming computerised but the transfer of information between systems still caused problems. The issues could have ramifications for an ambitious project under consideration for a supercomputing organisation. The Victorian Partnership for Advanced Computing (VPAC), aims to use patient records as a massive database for health research. Speakers at an HIC session on electronic patient records told of four projects, all aimed at finding the perfect solution for the masses of information needed in health care. William Goossen, a researcher and consultant to a Dutch attempt to set up a national electronic patient records model, said the Netherlands had needed to combine many attempts at creating such systems. The answer was to set up a national effort, bringing together the government, health providers and nursing associations in a single body. Major factors in a successful patient records system were identified as the information structure or content, the technical infrastructure, safety and security issues, and having the new body "do the work" of developing a workable solution. Professor Bill Appelbe, chief executive of supercomputing group VPAC, has said he would like to see standards set up for bringing together all kinds of medical records and tests. Speaking before the conference, he said that most information from clinical trials was only available in hard copy and recorded manually. This made "data mining" impossible, depriving researchers of potentially valuable sources of information. Similarly, having the general population's health records available electronically (in an anonymous form) would allow the possibility of faster and more accurate medical research. He said VPAC had had interest from large software vendors in developing such systems, acting as a "trusted third party" to broker between the medical research industry and large database developers. VPAC could take part in developing such specialised systems by "applying modern software development (principles) to scientific software" and hiring out its supercomputer's data-crunching facilities. In Victoria work has been under way on a universal health-care database for mental health patients for five years. The database project has been slowed by problems with messaging systems transferring data and by user feedback on early versions. The Victorian mental health-care approach has been to develop a centralised database with a unique patient indentifier, and to link it to clinic and hospital systems via an intermediary interface, pending development of a universal solution. The database was divided into an archive database and an "operational data store" for current work. Speaking for the project, Damian Curran said issues of training, insufficient bandwidth to local clinics and corruption of records had all needed to be overcome. The department is about to move to a new phase of trying to connect clinics and hospitals directly to the central database. Curran said key lessons from the project included the need to have proper documentation to allow for staff moving on, close monitoring of subcontractors, making sure the work kept up with current practices in the medical field, and "it's not cheap" - costs could be high. At the Distributed Systems Technology Centre (DSTC) in Queensland, trials of a so-called "Good Electronic Health Record" (GEHR) are about to move to real-world testing. The GEHR is a worldwide attempt to standardise the way medical records are kept. Researcher Andrew Goodchild said the group had had excellent feedback from doctors participating in the trial. The DSTC has helped develop editing software that allows medical practitioners to create simple "archetypes" or templates in which to store different kinds of information. The templates have parameters built into them that allow practitioners to specify what information must be entered, and what ranges are normal; so a template used to report blood tests, for instance, can automatically identify results out of the normal range. Goodchild said that anyone setting up a records system for doctors should first "find out what's politically and culturally, and work-wise acceptable for the clinicians". The trial editor will be available for free download from the DSTC's site soon. A working electronic patient records system has already been set up at the busy emergency section of the Austin and Repatriation Medical Centre in Melbourne. The hospital engaged Sydney software company TrakHealth for the pilot scheme, which has allowed the emergency room to replace its giant whiteboard showing patient movements and conditions with a computerised version. Applications project manager Vicki Moritz said the electronic "whiteboard", set up as a floor plan of the emergency room, increased privacy for patients and had interactive features, such as a clock symbol that flashed when patients were due for a check-up. The hospital chose its system by having about 100 staff road-test a shortlist of programs. She said information needed to be carefully checked before it was transferred to a new records system; two patients gave their occupations as "domestic goddess" and "stud".

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Chicago Bnet.
by Matthew X 15 Aug '02

15 Aug '02

I will pay 2$ to have ANY Person Impersonating a Govt. servant stabbed in the back. Run over.Shot.Drowned.Burnt,hell whatever,JUST DO IT! This could be the break APster needs.Time to make a stand.Scatter my ashes at Waldheim. Who wants to participate to help form what will be the LAST revolution on earth, the one that'll take down ALL the governments? James Dalton Bell."

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"for the SEC wont let me be,they try to shut me down on we CP."
by Matthew X 15 Aug '02

15 Aug '02

Well if you want Shady, this is what I'll give ya A little bit of weed mixed with some hard liquor Pretie shady eminem... http://www.corporate-ir.net/ireye/ir_site.zhtml?ticker=rsas&script=1901 gross profit? Don't ask.Mergers and Acquisitions will kill me,literally.Trei this... I know that you got a job Ms. Cheney but your husband's heart problem's complicating So the FCC won't let me be or let me be me, so let me see They try to shut me down on MTV But it feels so empty, without me So, come on and dip, rum on your lips Fuck that, cum on your lips, and some on your tits And get ready, cause this shit's about to get heavy I just settled all my lawsuits, FUCK YOU DEBBIE! There,there pete shady,pigs ears in vaseline don' taste THAT bad.

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CATO evacuation plans
by Matthew X 15 Aug '02

15 Aug '02

a)Tell declan and other media whores and shills to stay,"Its just a drill." b) Shred all tobacco documents c) Ditto all wind farming cruft,global warming malarky. d) All donation information must be burned.(and I don't mean on to a dvd,goddamit.) e) Don't run or drive fast,act nonchalant,but get the hell 40k out.AT LEAST. d) Don't go freakin' near RR. e) Don't pick up hitchers.Even if they look like Fawn Hall and are topless.(exceptions may be made if they are waving money,we are free enterprise remember. f) Be glad you invested in a SUV with a bullbar.

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AFP PROMIS
by Matthew X 15 Aug '02

15 Aug '02

What should I do if my FOI request comes back with PROMIS-person and location details,on it? I was just wondering in light of the history of that in SA,guatamala,occupied Palistine,etc. "First they came for the hackers. But I never did anything illegal with my computer, so I didn't speak up. Then they came for the pornographers. But I thought there was too much smut on the Internet anyway, so I didn't speak up. Then they came for the anonymous remailers. But a lot of nasty stuff gets sent from anon.penet.fi, so I didn't speak up. Then they came for the encryption users. But I could never figure out how to work pgp5 anyway, so I didn't speak up. Then they came for me. And by that time there was no one left to speak up." ~Alara Rogers (Aleph Press) n

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