July 2002 - cypherpunks-legacy

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14 Jul '02

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Slashdot | IPFilter Infriging on Bay Network Patent?
by Jim Choate 14 Jul '02

14 Jul '02

http://slashdot.org/articles/02/07/14/2221229.shtml?tid=155 -- -- ____________________________________________________________________ When I die, I would like to be born again as me. Hugh Hefner ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com jchoate(a)open-forge.org www.open-forge.org --------------------------------------------------------------------

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by Jim Choate 14 Jul '02

14 Jul '02

http://www.Kuro5hin.org/story/2002/7/13/44823/1293 -- -- ____________________________________________________________________ When I die, I would like to be born again as me. Hugh Hefner ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com jchoate(a)open-forge.org www.open-forge.org --------------------------------------------------------------------

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14 Jul '02

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14 Jul '02

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Has Paul Allen earned killing?
by Matthew X 14 Jul '02

14 Jul '02

http://www.thestranger.com/2002-07-04/city4.html "We have always lived in slums and holes in the wall. We will know how to accommodate ourselves for a time. For you must not forget, we can also build. It is we who built those palaces and cities here in Spain and America and everywhere. We, the workers, can build others to take their place. And better ones. We are not in the least afraid of ruins. WE are going to inherit the earth. There is not the slightest doubt about that. The bourgeoisie might blast and ruin its own world before it leaves the stage of history. We carry a new world, here in our hearts. That world is growing this minute." Buenaventura Durruti:

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Fwd: Re: Quantum Computing Puts Encrypted Messages at Risk (fwd)
by Jim Choate 14 Jul '02

14 Jul '02

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 15:24:48 +0200 From: Amir Herzberg <amir(a)herzberg.name> To: cryptography(a)wasabisystems.com Subject: Fwd: Re: Quantum Computing Puts Encrypted Messages at Risk >At 20:50 11/07/2002, Ian wrote: >>When I first read The Code Book (Simon Singh), I drooled endlessly at >>the idea of Unbreakable Encryption, until I became a little more >>cynical. I questioned Dr Singh on this when he came and gave a lecture >>in Cheltenham UK recently, and his best answer was that QKD is so secure >>because "its a different kind of system. Its not like conventional >>encryption." [synopsis - not direct quotation]. I'm not thorougly >>convinced. >> >>Can anyone (politely) prove this mere outsider wrong? > >I am also not a physicist. So I share your skepticism about relying for >security on physic theories which I don't understand, and furthermore >which may evolve and refine over time. > >However, as many people are excited about Quantum crypto, I really would >like to put my skepticism aside and understand what is its cryptographic >significance, say if we accept the physics as valid (for ever or at least >`long enough`). In particular I'm considering whether I should and can >cover this area in my book. I must admit I haven't yet studied this area >carefully, so my questions may be naive, if so please excuse me (and your >answer will be doubly appreciated). Some questions: > >1. Quantum key encryption seems to require huge amounts of truly random >bits at both sender and receiver. This seems impractical as (almost) truly >random bits are hard to produce (especially at high speeds). Is there a fix? >2. After the transmission, the receiver is supposed to tell the sender how >it set its polarization; how is this authenticated? If it isn't we are >obviously susceptible to man in the middle attack. >3. It seems the quantum link must connect directly from sender to >receiver. How can this help provide end to end security on the Internet? >Or are we back to private networks? >4. As to quantum computation signalling the end of `crypto as we know >it`... Is it fair to say this may end only the mechanisms built on >discrete log and/or factoring, but not shared key algorithms like AES and >some of the other public key algorithms? > >Best, Amir Herzberg -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Amir Herzberg See http://amir.herzberg.name/book.html for draft chapters from `Introduction to Cryptography, Secure Communication and Commerce`, and link to lectures. Comments appreciated. --------------------------------------------------------------------- The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe cryptography" to majordomo(a)wasabisystems.com

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Slashdot | RoadRunner Blocking Use of Kazaa
by Jim Choate 14 Jul '02

14 Jul '02

http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/02/07/14/0237258.shtml?tid=153 -- -- ____________________________________________________________________ When I die, I would like to be born again as me. Hugh Hefner ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com jchoate(a)open-forge.org www.open-forge.org --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Which universe are we in?
by Tim May 14 Jul '02

14 Jul '02

On Monday, July 8, 2002, at 07:43 PM, Stephen Paul King wrote: > Dear Tim, > > Are you tacitly assuming some kind of communication between > observers > when you make the claim of a "convergence"? Adsent said communications, > could we show that the convergence would still obtain? Have you ever > seen > any discussion of the notion of cyclic or periodic gossiping in Comp > Sci? > > No, I was arguing that while the future may be multi-worlded, everything we know about science (evidence, archaeology, measurements, ...) points to a _single_ past. For example, a single past world line for me, for you, for Hal, for Chaucer, for Einstein. Now we may not know what this world line is very accurately, but as we look at more closely, e.g., by examining the photographs someone may have taken, or their diaries, or whatever, the more we home in on what that world line was. We never look closely and see two or three or N different histories, we just see a higher fidelity view of what we must assume is the One True Past. I don't doubt that Hal gets the sense that many potential Hals could have resulted in the current Hal...an interesting notion. But everything does in fact point to a One True Past which various measurements get closer and closer to, and which no measurements contradict. This is what I meant by "convergence." Homing in, getting closer, sharpening the image, filling in the details. As for "tacitly assuming some kind of communication between observers," I am _explicitly_ saying that observers get together and compare notes...and they find no contradictions, if they are honest observers. Hal may have meant something different, perhaps. --Tim May --Tim May (.sig for Everything list background) Corralitos, CA. Born in 1951. Retired from Intel in 1986. Current main interest: category and topos theory, math, quantum reality, cosmology. Background: physics, Intel, crypto, Cypherpunks

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RE: Finding encrytion algorithm
by gfgs pedo 14 Jul '02

14 Jul '02

hi, I get the idea,thanx. Regards Data. > can u pls explain how they have statistical > signatures,pls- > > > may be using SPN's, i have tried ANSI X9.17 key > generation with GOST-it did have a negligably small > skew-it makes me wonder what statistical signature > they have.The negligable skew is a weakness but not > high enough to compramise the security of the key used > from the ANSI x9.17 key gen method. > pls explain. > thank u veru much. > You're on the right track. Take several encryption algorithms of your choice, then use a fixed IV, and the same sets of keys, and encrypt blocks of 0's. For each algorithm, compute several sets of staticstics (a la NIST or DIEHARD). With 100 blocks of 10 Megabytes (100 different keys) you should see some interesting differences. Remember, your question originally was "how can you tell which algorithm", not "how do you find the key". Let us know what you find out :-) --yes :) Patience, persistence, truth, Dr. mike __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com

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