May 2002 - cypherpunks-legacy

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by Marketing Manager 24 May '02

24 May '02

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RE: NAI pulls out the DMCA stick
by contrary 24 May '02

24 May '02

On Fri, 24 May 2002 17:13:18 +1200 (NZST), "Peter Gutmann" <pgut001(a)cs.auckland.ac.nz> said: > "contrary" <contrary(a)fastmail.fm> writes: > > >As long as you obtain your S/MIME certificate from an apporved > >CA, using an > >approved payment method and appropriate identification..... > > The only CA-issued certs I've ever used were free, and under a bogus > name. > Usually I just issue my own. You really need to find a better strawman > than > this if you want to criticise S/MIME. > > Peter. > OK, likewise. But I guess my point (if I had one) is that regardless of technical, usage, privacy and trust issues there is also one of linkage between a nym and meatspace. With pgp, it's easy to generate a new keypair, label or sign it anyway I care to, and exchange and use it for a single interaction. Relatively easy. (Joe Sixpack-'O-Bass-Ale) S/MIME certificates (by which I may just mean commercial CA's) seem mostly directed at strong authentication for commerce, and lean heavily toward linking to a credit card, driver's license number, or credential. This is a Good Thing for cryptography and for commerce, but not for 'nymity. Also not for "undeclared privacy" which is privacy that occurs below the attention threshold and without the permission of the censors. -- contrary contrary(a)fastmail.fm -- Access all of your messages and folders wherever you are! http://fastmail.fm - Get your mail using the web or your email software

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RE: NAI pulls out the DMCA stick
by pgut001＠cs.auckland.ac.nz 24 May '02

24 May '02

"contrary" <contrary(a)fastmail.fm> writes: >As long as you obtain your S/MIME certificate from an apporved CA, using an >approved payment method and appropriate identification..... The only CA-issued certs I've ever used were free, and under a bogus name. Usually I just issue my own. You really need to find a better strawman than this if you want to criticise S/MIME. Peter.

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Refinance Your Mortgage [yaypv]
by kkhk2c8a＠prodigy.net 24 May '02

24 May '02

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Re: Joe Sixpack doesn't run Linux
by pgut001＠cs.auckland.ac.nz 24 May '02

24 May '02

Meyer Wolfsheim <wolf(a)priori.net> writes: >S/MIME support is in just about every popular email client out of the box. >Why is PGP more widely used? > >[Good reasons snipped] Those who care about security [0] use PGP, the rest use S/MIME. To steal a line from Hexed: "S/MIME: For people who could care less". Actually it's not even that, it's closer to: "Plaintext: For people who could care less". I have yet to exchange an encrypted S/MIME message of any significance with anyone, ever. Even if the other side is using an S/MIME-enabled mailer, we usually end up using PGP even if it means having to try half a dozen different versions to find one which will process the other side's messages. While I'm in a quoting mood, there's also Marshall Rose's comment about X.400 to steal: Two people meet at a conference and exchange email addresses. They get back to their offices and want to communicate securely. If both sides are using PGP x.y.z, they communicate securely. If one side is using PGP x.y.z and the other isn't, they wait for a message and then keep trying different PGP versions until they find one which will process the message. If they aren't using PGP, they communicate in plaintext and hope no-one's listening. (In case that's forwarded or quoted out of context, this is a comment on a social issue, not a software issue). Peter. [0] With the corollary: "and aren't government users", S/MIME is used a fair bit in certain areas, it just doesn't get much public exposure.

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by gift 24 May '02

24 May '02

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Mersenne Twister
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24 May '02

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24 May '02

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24 May '02

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by jgerry 24 May '02

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