May 2002 - cypherpunks-legacy

When Will Terror Videos be Banned
by Eric Cordian 25 May '02

25 May '02

The FBI currently has its shorts in a wad over the numerous Web sites featuring the short but poignant last moments of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl. Clearly, as our War on Terrorism(tm) progresses, it is not unlikely that terrorists will kidnap and kill more Americans and email video clips of their last twitches to the media, and it is not unlikely that various web sites specializing in stomach-turning will place them online for public viewing. Creation, sale, or possession of child porn is illegal. Creation, sale, or possession of depictions of animals being harmed in an illegal manner is illegal as well. It seems unlikely that creation, sale, or possession of depictions of Americans being harmed in an illegal manner by political extremists will remain legal for long. When this happens, will this mean that the First Amendment is then officially brain dead, and may be disconnected from life support, and anything will be able to be banned, because "We're at War." When the inevitable law is written, where will the ACLU and EFF stand? Are they willing to take the heat and be labeled as supporters of terrorists? I bet if you polled the Sheeple today, they would be more than happy to give life in prison to anyone who looks at the Pearl video and snickers inappropriately. -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division "Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law"

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Re: Joe Sixpack doesn't run Linux
by Major Variola (ret) 24 May '02

24 May '02

At 12:21 PM 5/24/02 -0700, Curt Smith wrote: >If there were servers on the internet which automatically >displayed all plaintext e-mail messages which passed through >them as webpages (for the bored, curious, and opportunistic), >THEN everyone would see the value of encrypted e-mail. Hmm, didn't Sircam do a bit of that? But it sent files, not your entire mail spool; and it didn't try too hard to broadcast (it could have always forwarded a copy to usenet in addition to your contacts). Not sure if disk-encryption would have helped; it just would have sent one of the open (cleartext) files. Sircam forwarding a saved, encrypted email would have been harmless modulo traffic analysis. To encourage WiFi encryption you could use a high-gain antenna and anonymously (re) broadcast traffic you found. And publicize the site. Don't do this too early during deployment or you'll stunt the early growth.

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Re: Joe Sixpack doesn't run Linux
by jamesd＠echeque.com 24 May '02

24 May '02

-- On 23 May 2002 at 10:57, Meyer Wolfsheim wrote: > 3. The people who might use it if it is easy. > > This is Joe Sixpack. This is who you are worrying about, wanting > S/MIME to deliver on its promises. This is Templeton is worrying > about, wanting opportunistic mail encryption. Joe sixpack is willing and able to make the necessary mental effort if there is money at stake -- which of course there is not. The first recorded use of envelopes in mail was in financial transactions. People would create a clay tablet containing marks representing so many goods of this type, so many goods of another type, bake it, then wrap in another clay envelope, and bake that. Right now Joe Sixpack relies on the widely shared secret of his credit card number, and that sharing worries him more than somewhat. Problems resulting from that sharing are dealt with by the credit card company's arbitration facitilities, which cost him, the card company, and the merchant dearly. The big lack of demand for encryption by Joe Sixpack is a result of the lack of financial transactions using the internet between Joe sixpack and Bob sixpack. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG GLOU6WqBTbh5/1XBintStENCsUIWt7tnZNUrmtbZ 4ydGcwGiWOaRxYAIjlkIr8jUnEMBYpo4PElVUT14t

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have you got a license for that A to D converter?
by Major Variola (ret) 24 May '02

24 May '02

At 11:19 AM 5/24/02 -0400, Trei, Peter wrote: >In the name of protecting their business model, the MPAA >proposes that every analog/digital (A/D) converter - one of >the most basic of chips - be required to check for US >government mandated copyright flags. Amazing how the fates are turning yesterday's black humor into reality.. At 11:19 AM 5/24/02 -0400, Trei, Peter wrote: >My mind has been boggled, my flabbers have been ghasted. Reminds me of some others getting ghabberflasted too: >I'm apoplectic at the sheer chutzpah. ---Stanton McCandlish (on some other e-atrocity-law/powergrab) >Ok. That's pretty much my limit. ---"Black Unicorn" on DCMA bust of Russian reverse engineer of Adobe tools And various things others have said about draining the Potomoc swamps...

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Re: why OpenPGP is preferable to S/MIME (Re: NAI pulls out the DMCA stick)
by Adam Shostack 24 May '02

24 May '02

On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 07:10:01PM +0100, Adam Back wrote: | Certificate authorities also can forge certificates and issue | certificates in fake names if asked by government agencies. S/MIME is | too much under central control by design to be a sensible choice for | general individual use. So what if we create the Cypherpunks Root CA, which (either) signs what you submit to it via a web page, or publish the secret key? We then get the Cypherpunks Root CA key added to the browsers--it can't be that hard, the US postal service managed it... Adam -- "It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once." -Hume

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Re: Joe Sixpack doesn't run Linux
by A.Melon 24 May '02

24 May '02

On Fri, 24 May 2002, Curt Smith wrote: > The lack of e-mail detailing financial transactions is also the > reason many businesses chose not to incur the overhead of > secure communications. > > If there were servers on the internet which automatically > displayed all plaintext e-mail messages which passed through > them as webpages (for the bored, curious, and opportunistic), > THEN everyone would see the value of encrypted e-mail. http://www.shmoo.com/~pablos/pages/RandomMailReader.html

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MPAA wants all A/D converters to implement copyright protection.
by Trei, Peter 24 May '02

24 May '02

My mind has been boggled, my flabbers have been ghasted. In the name of protecting their business model, the MPAA proposes that every analog/digital (A/D) converter - one of the most basic of chips - be required to check for US government mandated copyright flags. Quite aside from increasing the cost and complexity of the devices many, manyfold, it eliminates the ability of the US to compete in the world electronics market. If this level of ignorance, chuptza, and bloodymindedness had been around a hundred years ago, cars would be forbidden to have a range greater then 20 miles, to protect the railway industry, and transoceanic airline tickets would have a $1000/seat surcharge, to compensate the owners of ocean liners for lost revenue. I know that Tinsletown is based on dreams and fantasies (as well as the violation of Edision's movie patents), but someone needs to sit these people down and teach them the lesson that King Canute taught his nobles. Peter Trei [The above is my personal opinion only. Do not misconstrue it to belong to others.] ---------------------------------------------------------- http://slashdot.org/articles/02/05/23/2355237.shtml?tid=97 - start quote - MPAA to Senate: Plug the Analog Hole! Posted by jamie on Friday May 24, @09:30AM from the op-amp dept. A month ago, the MPAA filed its report [PDF][1] with the Senate Judiciary Committee on the terrors of analog copying. I quote: "in order to help plug the hole, watermark detectors would be required in" -- are you sitting down? -- "all devices that perform analog to digital conversions." At their page Protecting Creative Works in a Digital Age[2], the Senate lays out the issues they'll be looking at, including briefs from corporate groups, and provides a comment form[3] so your opinion can be heard as well. As Cory Doctorow writes: "this is a much more sweeping (and less visible) power-grab than the Hollings Bill, and it's going forward virtually unopposed. ...the Broadcast Protection Discussion Group is bare weeks away from turning over a veto on new technologies to Hollywood." Doctorow's article on the "analog hole"[4] for the EFF does a great job of explaining the issues to non-electrical-engineers, and has many thought-provoking examples of how requiring such technology would be a giant step backwards. [1] http://judiciary.senate.gov/special/content_protection.pdf [2] http://judiciary.senate.gov/special/feature.cfm [3] http://judiciary.senate.gov/special/input_form.cfm [4] http://bpdg.blogs.eff.org/archives/000113.html - end quote -

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