November 2002 - cypherpunks-legacy

Perfumes and flavours from Italy
by Maurizio Borgassi 29 Nov '02

29 Nov '02

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Re: Anyone heard about the Berkeley college student?
by Tyler Durden 29 Nov '02

29 Nov '02

Yeah, the paper originates from NYC, called Shi Chie Re Bau (in Pin Yin, I believe). This translates (roughly) "World Journal". The article got thrown out, otherwise I'd attempt a translation. >From: Jim Choate <ravage(a)einstein.ssz.com> >To: <cypherpunks(a)einstein.ssz.com> >Subject: Anyone heard about the Berkeley college student? >Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 15:39:17 -0600 (CST) > >On Fri, 29 Nov 2002, Tyler Durden wrote: > > > In the Chinese papers over the last few days they've been reporting an > > incident that happened to a Chinese UC Berkeley college student, who was > > using her cell phone to discuss playing some sort of videogame. The > > videogame involves placing "explosives" in various places in the game. > > > > Apparently, whithin minutes after completing the call, police (or other) > > officers showed up at her room and brought her in for questioning. She > > apparently brought the officers over to the friend's house to show them >the > > videogame, "proving" that she was indeed talking about a videogame. > > > > Has anyone heard of this in the "regular" (ie, non-Chinese) press? The > > Chinese folks are of course up in arms about the apparent "profiling" >this > > would imply, apparently ignoring the deeper implications. (For instance, >did > > they actually get a wire tap for this monitoring? If so, why? If not, > > well...) > >Almost as interesting as the two people they've apparently executed for >posting web pages. > >Do you know which Chinese papers or even which city? Doesn't seem like >something they'd put in the internal press at all. > >I'll see what I can find out... > > > -- > ____________________________________________________________________ > > We don't see things as they are, ravage(a)ssz.com > we see them as we are. www.ssz.com > jchoate(a)open-forge.org > Anais Nin www.open-forge.org > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

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RE: stego building
by Lucky Green 29 Nov '02

29 Nov '02

Anonymous wrote quoting Lucky: > >A reasonable guess, but wrong. The building is a computing and > > >processing center for Bank of America. That's where your checks go > >after > > >you deposit them at the bank. > > > > > >The CO for this area is a few blocks away on Mc Coppin. The brick > > >building with the Pac Bell logo on it. You can see the frame through > >the > > >windows. Yes, this CO has been around for long enough to > have windows. > > Both wrong. BA building is accross the mentioned one (accross > 11th) and clearly marked. There are two BofA buildings on either side of 11th Street. One is housing a BofA branch with numerous ATMs outside. That building is indeed clearly marked as a BofA building. But that's not the building in question. The building in question is the one across 11th, which has its building entrance on Market next to a ground-level convenience store. While the ground level of that building houses stores, the remainder of the building is occupied by BofA's processing center. > The CO is metal-plated pacbel building on Folsom and 2nd. Well, of course there is more than one CO in San Francisco. The CO closed to the "mystery" building is the CO on Mc Coppin. As I pointed out in my original email, you can see the frame through the windows. FYI, Mc Coppin is *a lot* closer to 11th & Market than is 2nd and Folsom. --Lucky

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FBI 'Nets' Cop-Killer Suspect
by Eugen Leitl 28 Nov '02

28 Nov '02

http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,56616,00.html?tw=wn_ascii FBI 'Nets' Cop-Killer Suspect By Associated Press Page 1 of 1 08:15 AM Nov. 27, 2002 PT CONCORD, New Hampshire -- A fugitive suspected of killing a California police officer in a crusade against police brutality has been captured after confessing to the murder in postings to an alternative news media website. Andrew McCrae, 23, walked out of a hotel room Tuesday after several hours of negotiations. He is charged with killing officer David Mobilio in Red Bluff, California, on Nov. 19. Shortly before he gave up, authorities granted McCrae's request to talk to a Concord Monitor reporter who was in the lobby. Reporter Sarah Vos said the first thing McCrae told her in a phone conversation was, "I killed a police officer in Red Bluff, California, in an effort to draw attention to police brutality." Police believe it was McCrae who confessed to the murder on a San Francisco website. In one of two letters posted on the site Monday by a man identifying himself as McCrae, the writer claims he shot and killed the officer to protest "police-state tactics" and corporate irresponsibility. The writer claimed he is immune from prosecution because he incorporated himself as a protest against corporations who "murder thousands of people each year." Mobilio, 31, was shot once in the head as he refueled his cruiser. He was the first officer ever killed in the line of duty in Red Bluff, a city of 13,500 near Sacramento. Some 2,500 people, including Gov. Gray Davis, attended a memorial Tuesday afternoon. Prosecutor Scott Murray called it "an ambush, an execution of a police officer ... to effectuate (McCrae's) political agenda." Vos, who covers crime for the newspaper, said McCrae wanted her to read a copy of a "Declaration of Renewed Independence" he said he had written. "I tell him I want to read it. He asks, 'How do I give it to you?' I say, 'You have to come out' and basically the conversation ends there." Authorities had told her they didn't want her to get McCrae excited because they feared he was suicidal. They also told her not to ask questions and try to lure him out. "Someone else was listening in and someone else was passing me notes," she said. Agents and police officers told Vos she had done a good job. "It feels weird, to be honest," she said. "That's not my job. My job is to report the news." McCrae was ordered held without bail after saying nothing during his arraignment by video hookup from the Merrimack County Jail. He had a bandage on his head and a blanket draped over his bare shoulders during the hearing. Police said there had been a dispute over jail clothing, but did not explain the bandage. Defense attorney Mark Sisti said McCrae had been injured, but gave no details.

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What Will AOL And MSN Tell Uncle Sam?
by Steve Schear 27 Nov '02

27 Nov '02

Business In The Beltway What Will AOL And MSN Tell Uncle Sam? Matthew Swibel, 11.27.02, 9:05 AM ET WASHINGTON - When he signed the Homeland Security bill on Monday, President George W. Bush effectively drafted corporate America to serve in the war against terrorism--with Internet service providers among those on the front line. The new law makes it easier for AOL Time Warner, Comcast, Microsoft's MSN unit, United Online and the rest of the nation's 3,000 Internet service providers to volunteer subscriber information to government officials without worrying about customer lawsuits. Under the new law, they can release the contents of customers' communications to law enforcement without a court order and without fear of a suit if they have a "good-faith" belief that an emergency warrants it. Before, they had to have a "reasonable" belief--a higher legal standard--that release was warranted. http://www.forbes.com/2002/11/27/cz_ms_1127beltway.html "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty " --- Thomas Jefferson

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Re: The End of the Golden Age of Crypto
by Ken Hirsch 27 Nov '02

27 Nov '02

Jim Choate writes: > > It's not I who is doing the misreading. I sent this along because I don't > know -your- level, which considering your understanding of > 'completeness'... Peter Fairbrother has said nothing inaccurate about completeness, whereas your statements about completeness having to do with the ability to write statements is nonsense.

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RE: Is the minder CDR down?
by Trei, Peter 27 Nov '02

27 Nov '02

> Igor Chudov[SMTP:ichudov@Algebra.Com] wrote: > > > my cdr node algebra.com is up. It is perhaps the most aggressive node as > far as antispam measures go. It uses a lot of filters, some homemade, > some based on SpamAssassin (as of several days ago). It also refuses > all mail from China, Korea and a couple of other spam friendly countries. > > It also does not carry any traffic that originates from ssz.com. > > I used to be a lot more tolerant of spam before, but not any more. > > igor > Thanks, but no thanks. I picked minder because it does not filter. minder seems to be back up now. Peter > On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 10:32:43AM -0800, Eric Murray wrote: > > > > On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 09:47:20AM -0500, Trei, Peter wrote: > > > I'm subscribed thru minder, and have had no > > > cypherpunks mail for nearly 24 hours. I can > > > see that there is more recent traffic on the > > > web archive. > > > > The last mail I got from them here was yesterday morning. But their > > majordomo did answer a ping this morning, so their server was up and > > sending and receiving at least some mail them. > > > > > > Eric

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Re: Is the minder CDR down?
by Igor Chudov 27 Nov '02

27 Nov '02

my cdr node algebra.com is up. It is perhaps the most aggressive node as far as antispam measures go. It uses a lot of filters, some homemade, some based on SpamAssassin (as of several days ago). It also refuses all mail from China, Korea and a couple of other spam friendly countries. It also does not carry any traffic that originates from ssz.com. I used to be a lot more tolerant of spam before, but not any more. igor On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 10:32:43AM -0800, Eric Murray wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 09:47:20AM -0500, Trei, Peter wrote: > > I'm subscribed thru minder, and have had no > > cypherpunks mail for nearly 24 hours. I can > > see that there is more recent traffic on the > > web archive. > > The last mail I got from them here was yesterday morning. But their > majordomo did answer a ping this morning, so their server was up and > sending and receiving at least some mail them. > > > Eric

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Is the minder CDR down?
by Trei, Peter 27 Nov '02

27 Nov '02

I'm subscribed thru minder, and have had no cypherpunks mail for nearly 24 hours. I can see that there is more recent traffic on the web archive. Peter Trei

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Re: stego building
by Bill Stewart 27 Nov '02

27 Nov '02

>Telco central office. Lots of copper loop I/O, and a big switch. >Used to be mechanical crossbars. Probably a diesel >generator somewhere. That would normally be my guess too, but it's on one of the ones AT&T shares with Pac Bell - there's 611 Folsom and another on Post or thereabouts. But it could be a local-only Pac Bell POP.

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