January 2002 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Drugs Squad Fumes As Bookshop Shields Reader
by Michael Motyka 15 Jan '02

15 Jan '02

Won't it be wonderful if the Court rules in favor of the 1st? OTOH, why trust in a corruptible legal system? Use cash and don't leave the ID information at the goddam bookstore in the first place. If you're going to keep the book and you can't deduct it, peel stickers, destroy receipts. Duh! It is time for books to be published on CD. Using open-source tools and good encryption, then the fascists can't even tell what you read. Unless your OS is corrupted. Which brings me to the "Digital Church" e-mail. That has been suggested before. Doesn't seem very useful. I think some more useful things to do are : Hack CD burners to add a SetBurnerIDCode command. Gather, duplicate and distribute widely state, federal and unpopular information that is quickly disappearing. It's like F451 - private archives are the only way to save proscribed information. We're just about four months into the latest excuse the trash civil liberties and they're now telling us it could last for six years. Extrapolation looks nasty. Mike

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Justine's Faust.Questions.
by mattd 15 Jan '02

15 Jan '02

>> The Tristan Chord: Wagner and Philosophy (Bryan Magee, 2001, 397 p.) When? Last week.<< Is there any mention of Bakunin and Wagner in Dresden during an 1848 era uprising? Its been suggested Siegfried might have been modelled on Bakunin at the barricades. The reviews of this book are worth a look at Amazon. >>VCR: the old BBC productions of Shakespeare's Timon of Athens, << Ever thought about greek birth control? The greek technique? >>The Merchant of Venice, << If I prick you...how does that go? Something about 2handfulls of flesh. >>Richard II, << Was he the one with the hump? >>and Henry IV part 1, one a night. << Thats good.Im lucky to get one a week. >>Some C-SPAN, bookTV on C-SPAN 2. << When Adam delved and Eve span,who then was the Gentleman? >>So the next time you feel like sniffing at somone else's << Pass. >>reading and leisure habits on the basis of age alone, perhaps it would be helpful to trouble yourself to learn the tiniest little bit about what they are, eh? Agh, back to work. :)<< Your right on Girlfriend! This site is bunch of boring old farts.Especially Tim,right?

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Faustine the Imbecile.
by mattd 15 Jan '02

15 Jan '02

>>"autonomous decentralized network". Which, if you can believe the RAND Corporation, is apparently where it's at...<< Anarchists recognized as clear and present danger,All means to combat approved. >>Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda, or drug smuggling cartels like those in Colombia and Mexico. On the positive side are civil - -society activists fighting for the environment, democracy and human rights. What all have in common is that they operate in small, dispersed units that can deploy anywhere, anytime to penetrate and disrupt. They all feature network forms of organization, doctrine, strategy, and technology attuned to the information age. And, from the Intifadah to the drug war, they are proving very hard to beat." << >>Note their interesting (and vital) distinction between criminal networks and those "on the positive side". << Well actually no,not really.Al Queda have a legit war on the armourer and financier of the terrorist zionists.The US is 'the 'rogue terror state.Drug cartels would not exist without an absurd prohibition and absolutely crazy "drug war".Dont you read Narco news? Silly girl.Criminal is in the eye of the beholder as Tim points out ad nauseum. >>God knows I don't speak for anyone here << Fuck knows why you come here unless your an agent like Aimee Fart. >>but myself, but in the best of all (im?)possible worlds, those interested in protecting privacy and freedom through cryptography belong right at the heart of that side of the continuum. The tools of cryptography are value neutral you Idiot.Like APster. "the heart of that side of the continuum,"WTF does that mean? Something on Faustine Prime? >>Whether or not any of us individually can be successful at being perceived that way remains to be seen.<< More dribble.We should worry about how we are perceived???By who? And Why,for fucks sake? Haven't we all got work to do? There's a lot more that ought to be said on this, any thoughts? Theres a lot been said.Your ignoring the archives on the left.You are a serial pest like Tim 'alzeimers' May. Something to keep in mind, at any rate. ~Faustine. The abyss calling the abyss. ~ Justine. Keep the divine Marquis in that place you store your mind F.

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Victoria Police Crime Stoppers $1000 bounty
by mattd 15 Jan '02

15 Jan '02

>>How can I receive a reward and still remain anonymous? The caller is advised to call back after a scheduled board meeting at which the reward amount will be considered. Suitable arrangements will then be made for payment of the reward. At all times the identity of the caller is safeguarded. The normal practice is for the caller to identify themself with their code number. Crime Stoppers can then make a cash deposit of the reward amount into a nominated bank account or alternatively, arrange cash payment at a nominated location.<< This is great,with encryption it'll be even better.I dropped the dime on a "chop chop' tobacco seller a couple of years ago. Filthy habit."Used to be sodomy was frowned on and smoking approved of."If I did the same thing now I could score enough for a second hand dell! "Encryption can pose potentially insurmountable challenges to law enforcement when used in conjunction with communication or plans for executing serious terrorist and criminal acts."

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Shrubs wild years
by mattd 15 Jan '02

15 Jan '02

http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm Skeletons in the closet and black eyes. Quotes "One of the interesting initiatives we've taken in Washington, D.C., is we've got these vampire-busting devices. A vampire is aa cell deal you can plug in the wall to charge your cell phone."Denver, CO. Aug. 14, 2001 "Well, it's an unimaginable honor to be the president during the Fourth of July of this country. It means what these words say, for starters. The great inalienable rights of our country. We're blessed with such values in America. And I--it's--I'm a proud man to be the nation based upon such wonderful values."--Visiting the Jefferson Memorial, Washington, D.C., July 2, 2001 "We spent a lot of time talking about Africa, as we should. Africa is a nation that suffers from incredible disease."--After meeting with the leaders of the European Union, Gothenburg, Sweden, June 14, 2001 "It's very important for folks to understand that when there's more trade, there's more commerce."--Quebec City, Canada, April 21, 2001 "I've coined new words, like, misunderstanding and Hispanically."Radio-Television Correspondents Association dinner, Washington, D.C., March 29, 2001 "I am mindful not only of preserving executive powers for myself, but for predecessors as well."Washington, D.C., Jan. 29, 2001 "Then I went for a run with the other dog and just walked. And I started thinking about a lot of things. I was able toI can't remember what it was. Oh, the inaugural speech, started thinking through that."Pre-inaugural interview with U.S. News & World Report, Jan. 22, 2001 issue "Redefining the role of the United States from enablers to keep the peace to enablers to keep the peace from peacekeepers is going to be an assignment."Interview with the New York Times, Jan. 14, 2001 (Thanks to Rachael Contorer.) "The California crunch really is the result of not enough power-generating plants and then not enough power to power the power of generating plants."Interview with the New York Times, Jan. 14, 2001 "They misunderestimated me."Bentonville, Ark., Nov. 6, 2000 More at http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm

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Victoria Police Crime Stoppers $1000 bounty
by Anonymous 15 Jan '02

15 Jan '02

Victoria Police Crime Stoppers 1800-333-000 Crime Stoppers offers members of the general public an opportunity to make confidential calls to the police about any criminal activity. Calls are not recorded. All callers are given a code number for identification which they require when making further contact with Crime Stoppers. If the information leads to an arrest, the caller may be eligible for a reward of up to $1,000. Crime Stoppers offers a way of overcoming many of the reasons which inhibit people from reporting crime, such as not wanting to get involved, fear of retribution and not being sure that what they have to report is of any significance or who to tell. Hours of Operation The Crime Stoppers call centre is staffed by Victoria Police personnel between 7am and 11pm, seven days a week. Information can be left on a voice mail system outside these hours. Free Call Telephone Number - 1 800 333 000 Crime Stoppers operates nationally and can be called on a free call hotline from anywhere in Australia. If you are calling from Victoria your call will be directed to the Victoria Police Crime Stoppers call centre. Anonymity For those callers who wish to remain anonymous, their total anonymity is guaranteed. If callers choose to remain anonymous, they are given a code number which they use when contacting Crime Stoppers to provide further information and/or to collect a reward. The callers anonymity applies even to the board members and other police outside of the Crime Stoppers Unit who may be involved in the investigation. Do Crime Stoppers record or use caller display phones? At Crime Stoppers, the emphasis is on protecting the identity of all callers. Crime Stoppers does not record calls or use caller display phones otherwise the whole Crime Stoppers program - not only in Australia but worldwide, would lose its credibility and valuable criminal information. Cash Rewards Crime Stoppers pays cash rewards for information that results in the arrest of an offender. Will I receive a reward for any information? Crime Stoppers pay rewards for any piece of information that leads to an arrest. The information can be about any crime, not just crimes featured in the media. Do I get a reward if I call a police station with information? Members of the public will always phone police stations with information and this is always encouraged. These callers do not qualify for a Crime Stoppers reward because the Crime Stoppers Unit did not receive and process the call. How is the amount of the reward determined? The rewards are paid for and administered by the board of Crime Stoppers Victoria Ltd. Police recommend to the board of management that a reward be considered for payment to a caller. The amount of the reward is determined by a points rating scale including the seriousness of the crime, the number of persons arrested, the number of charges laid, the value of property recovered or the value of drugs seized. How can I receive a reward and still remain anonymous? The caller is advised to call back after a scheduled board meeting at which the reward amount will be considered. Suitable arrangements will then be made for payment of the reward. At all times the identity of the caller is safeguarded. The normal practice is for the caller to identify themself with their code number. Crime Stoppers can then make a cash deposit of the reward amount into a nominated bank account or alternatively, arrange cash payment at a nominated location.

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Lawmaker Wants Magic Lantern Information From FBI
by Jei 14 Jan '02

14 Jan '02

http://www.newsbytes.com/news/02/173637.html Lawmaker Wants Magic Lantern Information From FBI By Robert MacMillan, Newsbytes WASHINGTON, D.C., U.S.A., 14 Jan 2002, 7:27 PM CST Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, in a letter last week told the FBI that he is concerned about the bureau's refusal to provide information about the existence of a computer and e-mail surveillance plan dubbed "Magic Lantern." In the letter, provided to the Politech mailing list by Paul's legislative director Norman Singleton, the Congressman asked FBI Director Robert Mueller to hand over information on the keystroke monitoring program, "or provide me with written justification for the FBI's refusal to share information on this crucial issue." Paul asked for a response within two weeks. "If ... media reports are accurate, the Magic Lantern project could greatly impact the privacy and civil liberties of all Americans who communicate via e-mail," Paul said. "Recently, my legislative director attempted to obtain information on this project from the FBI and was told such information was classified. Considering the potential impact of Magic Lantern, I am sure you can understand why I was disturbed by this refusal." Media reports have said that the FBI could distribute Magic Lantern the same way worms thread through the Internet, which would eliminate the need for law enforcement to physically install monitoring programs on suspect's computers. Privacy advocates are concerned that a program such as Magic Lantern could help the FBI circumvent the normal process of subjecting to a court's oversight when using surveillance tools. FBI officials had no immediate comment on the letter. Reported by Newsbytes.com, http://www.newsbytes.com . 19:27 CST (20020114/WIRES TOP, ONLINE, LEGAL, PC/) © 2002 PostNewsweek Tech Media ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> FREE COLLEGE MONEY CLICK HERE to search 600,000 scholarships! http://us.click.yahoo.com/vf6MrB/4m7CAA/ySSFAA/TySplB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> =============================================================== SPY NEWS is OSINT newsletter and discussion list associated to Mario's Cyberspace Station http://mprofaca.cro.net/mainmenu.html =============================================================== *** FAIR USE NOTICE. This message contains copyrighted material whose use has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. Spy News is making it available without profit to SPY NEWS eGroup members who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information in their efforts to advance the understanding of intelligence and law enforcement organizations, their activities, methods, techniques, human rights, civil liberties, social justice and other intelligence related issues, for non-profit research and educational purposes only. We believe that this constitutes a 'fair use' of the copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the U.S. Copyright Law. If you wish to use this copyrighted material for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use,' you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ----------------------------------------------- SPY NEWS home page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spynews To change your subscription mode to Daily Digest (one message a day) send a blank message: mailto:spynews-digest@yahoogroups.com Please note that replying to THIS e-mail will not remove you from the mailing list. To unsubscribe SPYNEWS send a blank message: mailto:spynews-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Mario Profaca Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

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Re: True Names reviewed on /.
by faustine.＠hushmail.com 14 Jan '02

14 Jan '02

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Tim wrote: Duncan wrote: >> This is why books are still needed and why Slash Dot readers should >> think about learning to read them. >Tim, >It's not so much books qua books but the habits of mind that book reading >inculcates. Most of the necessary information is up on the Universal >Library these days but many have a hard time reading or writing long form >"material". The discipline of paper books is a useful one to employ. >Better even than free weights. >Perhaps those in the best postion are those in our birth cohort who are >old enough to have learned to read but young enough to have computed. Bah! You actually think old people are the only ones who read books? When was the last time you asked someone in graduate school about it, must've been awhile. You want to know the last book I read cover to cover? "Uncertianty: A Guide to Dealing With Uncertainty in Quantitative Risk and Policy Analysis", (Morgan and Henrion, 1990, 332 p.) You want to know when? Yesterday. Four more on related subjects in the last seven days. All that on top of a 40-hour work week, homework, and and trying to get my head around a new language for an advanced simulation modeling and analysis class. But then, since I don't waste time on vapid TV shows, I have more time than you'd think. The last non-work related hardback: The Tristan Chord: Wagner and Philosophy (Bryan Magee, 2001, 397 p.) When? Last week. VCR: the old BBC productions of Shakespeare's Timon of Athens, The Merchant of Venice, Richard II, and Henry IV part 1, one a night. Some C-SPAN, bookTV on C-SPAN 2. So the next time you feel like sniffing at somone else's reading and leisure habits on the basis of age alone, perhaps it would be helpful to trouble yourself to learn the tiniest little bit about what they are, eh? Agh, back to work. :) ~Faustine. *** Our contest is not only whether we ourselves shall be free, but whether there shall be left to mankind an asylum on earth for civil and religious liberty. - --Samuel Adams -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: Hush 2.1 Note: This signature can be verified at https://www.hushtools.com wl4EARECAB4FAjxDmUEXHGZhdXN0aW5lLkBodXNobWFpbC5jb20ACgkQGwpHwwWoj8Ws SQCfYUbQ50zXnj6T/3KCsn8yFJpA96gAoL7GduoIg7io961Ib5GCHzBzdIHi =f/6r -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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What is Cheney doing?
by Nomen Nescio 14 Jan '02

14 Jan '02

At 10:27 PM 1/13/02 -0800, Alan Olsen wrote: >Speaking of "Missing In Action"... > >Anyone know what Cheany is up to? Buying more pretzels for George.. http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20020114/ts/bush_health.html

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RE: registering Cypherpunks movement ...
by faustine.＠hushmail.com 14 Jan '02

14 Jan '02

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Peter wrote: >The cypherpunks mailing list is not an organization. There is no >membership list, there are no officers. There are no dues, no >organizational hierarchy. There is no agreed set of aims, purposes, >or activities. There is no property, and no post office address. But the idea that people who exchange ideas on the list hold physical meetings all over the world (attended by non-posters) and choose to come together under the word "Cypherpunks" really calls to mind the phrase "autonomous decentralized network". Which, if you can believe the RAND Corporation, is apparently where it's at... Networks and Netwars: The Future of Terror, Crime, and Militancy John Arquilla, David Ronfeldt (editors) free online pdf: http://www.rand.org/publications/MR/MR1382/ Summary: "The fight for the future is not between the armies of leading states, nor are its weapons those of traditional armed forces. Rather, the combatants come from bomb-making terrorist groups like Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda, or drug smuggling cartels like those in Colombia and Mexico. On the positive side are civil - -society activists fighting for the environment, democracy and human rights. What all have in common is that they operate in small, dispersed units that can deploy anywhere, anytime to penetrate and disrupt. They all feature network forms of organization, doctrine, strategy, and technology attuned to the information age. And, from the Intifadah to the drug war, they are proving very hard to beat." Note their interesting (and vital) distinction between criminal networks and those "on the positive side". God knows I don't speak for anyone here but myself, but in the best of all (im?)possible worlds, those interested in protecting privacy and freedom through cryptography belong right at the heart of that side of the continuum. Whether or not any of us individually can be successful at being perceived that way remains to be seen. There's a lot more that ought to be said on this, any thoughts? Something to keep in mind, at any rate. ~Faustine. *** Our contest is not only whether we ourselves shall be free, but whether there shall be left to mankind an asylum on earth for civil and religious liberty. - --Samuel Adams -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: Hush 2.1 Note: This signature can be verified at https://www.hushtools.com wl4EARECAB4FAjxDdhAXHGZhdXN0aW5lLkBodXNobWFpbC5jb20ACgkQGwpHwwWoj8Xv wgCeM+kLnphQdPYKiNq0yc2EXJXmhucAn1ZH4t5kH5sQDD9pXjqs9LI0/Ln6 =8MD1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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