August 2001 - cypherpunks-legacy

Slashdot | Ricochet Modems == Wireless LAN?
by Jim Choate 04 Aug '01

04 Aug '01

http://slashdot.org/askslashdot/01/08/03/2337255.shtml -- -- ____________________________________________________________________ Nature and Nature's laws lay hid in night: God said, "Let Tesla be", and all was light. B.A. Behrend The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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The Register - Congress tears Media Giant's hearts out
by Jim Choate 04 Aug '01

04 Aug '01

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/20839.html -- -- ____________________________________________________________________ Nature and Nature's laws lay hid in night: God said, "Let Tesla be", and all was light. B.A. Behrend The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Forced disclosures, document seizures, Right and Wrong.
by Black Unicorn 04 Aug '01

04 Aug '01

----- Original Message ----- From: "Trei, Peter" <ptrei(a)rsasecurity.com> To: "'Black Unicorn'" <unicorn(a)schloss.li> Cc: <cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 7:53 AM Subject: RE: Forced disclosures, document seizures, Right and Wrong. > Thanks for your response. The 'in his direct or indirect > control' bit is the part that got lost in the article. Sure. News articles are the WORST source for legal analysis. > I hope it was clear that I was not looking for ways to > deny a court *access* to a piece of information, but > rather using the net (prior to a subpoena) as an way > to make *sequestration* of a piece of info impossible, > by placing copies permanently outside 'his direct or > indirect control'. It was clear. I wanted to make sure to correct the common misconception among cypherpunks that you can just thumb your nose at a court with impunity. I didn't believe that you were exhibiting this behavior, but failing to clear things up often leads to misconceptions by others, who then cite the erroniously intrepreted stuff to support their silly ideas about legal-immune key escrow and etc. > I hope you read Mike's 'Oh pointy one' note carefully; > it points out one of the great problems most of us IANAL > have with IAAL types - the confusion of laws and court > action with right and justice, and actions which are > simply unlawful at a given time and place with wrong > and injustice. It's a base conflict. A legal education is the ultimate dose of practical cynicism. It quickly becomes apparent not that the law isn't perfect, but that it is often pretty damn screwed up. American jurisprudence is about _fairness of process_, not justice, or right, or wrong. The frustration that IAAL types usually have is that IANAL types tend to cross the line from criticzing the law to giving legal advice which is more derrived from their dislike for the state of the law than a recognition of what it really is. > Laws and courts are or should be an attempt to map > the behaviour of governments to right and justice, but > lawyers so often seemed to have been conditioned > into thinking they are one and the same, rather than > a (very) rough approximation. Well, again, the legal education process is designed around navigating through the system, not mapping the behavior of governments. > [Case to point: Canter and Siegel claiming that there > was nothing wrong with them sending their Green Card > spam, since there was no law against it.] > > It's possible - indeed essential - for people to argue > over right and wrong, justice and injustice without > regard for what a given legal and court system says; > even a court and legal system which can send Men > With Guns after them. Oh, I wholly agree. And I believe this is a fully valid function for cypherpunks. Unfortunately, it often shifts into "you should design this technical solution" - typically a technical solution which will end the operated in jail. To me the important distinction is to recognize what we want the ideal to be, but avoid running afoul of the law in the process. > Laws do not define Right and Wrong. > Courts and Legal Systems do not define Justice. > > They are better than nothing at all, but we should > never imbue them with divine wisdom. That way > lies Tyranny. Agreed. > Peter Trei >

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Trying again...[jsimmons@transvirtual.com: [OT] DMCA loop hole]
by Gabriel Rocha 04 Aug '01

04 Aug '01

ok, let me try this again... sorry about that. --gabe ----- Forwarded message from James Simmons <jsimmons(a)transvirtual.com> -----

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Book1
by CHIUPING 04 Aug '01

04 Aug '01

Hi! How are you? I send you this file in order to have your advice See you later. Thanks

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Book1
by CHIUPING 04 Aug '01

04 Aug '01

Hi! How are you? I send you this file in order to have your advice See you later. Thanks

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Good Virus info. Working fix. Highly recommended.
by In Him 04 Aug '01

04 Aug '01

If your email client does not show this email formatted, please, go here. AOL users may cut-paste this link onto the browser http://www.ipm.org/av/SirCam _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Do you remember seeing this message? Hi! How are you? I send you this file in order to have your advice. See you later. Thanks Do you remember READING the attached file? If the answer is "yes" to both, your PC is infected with one of the trickiest and most dangerous viruses that takes internet by storm. _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Worm W32-SirCam@MM Why the trickiest? It comes with an innocent request for advice from someone that you know (message can be in Spanish). Attachment - is a real file from a real person's PC; it might even be relevant to the field of interests of the person it came from. You will even feel obligated to reply. Why the most dangerous? When you read the attached file, worm W32-SirCam@MM comes out of the document, goes in to your Windows registry, and here's where the fun begins. 1. It looks in your PC for every file that is a Document (*.doc, *.txt), image (*.gif, jpg, etc.) compressed files (*.zip, rar). 2. It takes found documents, copies itself into bod! y ! of text an d sends silently to ea Is there any precaution against this and similar viruses? Yes, 1. Never open attachments from people that you do not know. If indeed interested in the attachment, or it comes from a friend, always reply to the sender with the question "Did you send this to me?". If the answer is "yes", enjoy the file. If "no" just delete email and empty Deleted files folder. Make sure to reply with the message that he may be sending a potential virus. 2. Install (unwise to pinch pennies here) and never turn off Antivirus software. We recommend Norton Antivirus. In Norton properties, set Auto Update for weekly automatic downloads. 3. Do not rely (sorry, folks!) on MacAfee Anti-virus software pre-installed on your PC from the manufacturer. This is what has happened to me--system admin--for a second time. Two years ago I bought Sony notebook for home use and MacAfee did not catch "happy99" virus. Several months ago I bought another GREAT notebook from Sony, got lazy about uninstalling MacAfee ! an! d replacin g with Norton. MacAfee Serge Taran

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RE: Laws of mathematics, not of men
by Sandy Sandfort 04 Aug '01

04 Aug '01

Declan McCullagh wrote: > Talking about alleged victimless > crimes allegedly committed by > list members is irresponsible.* > The reason it is arguably > irresponsible is that you are > endangering someone else's safety. > Big difference. I don't follow your logic. (At least you admit my alleged irresponsibility is arguable.) Please tell me how you think referencing an alleged crime many years in the past somehow endangers anyone's safety today. I don't see. I've committed felonies, you've committed felonies, we've all committed felonies, over the years. So what? What difference can mentioning it make? Where is the danger to Tim's safety? Who represents that danger and how are my actions the proximate cause of such alleged danger? You're a smart and reasonable guy, Declan, and you may be right. I don't think so, but I'm open to your argument.

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Re: archive? Re: Adversaries Would Find Other Attack Methods, Game Theory Shows
by Declan McCullagh 04 Aug '01

04 Aug '01

Ever since John Gilmore went through expensive legal hassles when receiving a subponea for the toad.com archives, I'm surprised that anyone in the U.S. would want to volunteer to host them and announce this publicly. -Declan On Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 02:45:06PM +0200, Eugene Leitl wrote: > Um, do we have a decent archive, reaching back in time as far as possible, > preferably snarfable as raw inbox or a tarball? (did I already mention > that my connectivity sucks?). > > TIA, > Eugene

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Small world networks: abstract cond-mat/0001118
by Jim Choate 04 Aug '01

04 Aug '01

http://xxx.lanl.gov/abs/cond-mat/0001118 -- -- ____________________________________________________________________ Nature and Nature's laws lay hid in night: God said, "Let Tesla be", and all was light. B.A. Behrend The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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