July 2001 - cypherpunks-legacy

RE: Adobe's Teeth. (Was: Re: [free-sklyarov] Re: Rallies on Mond ay)
by Trei, Peter 23 Jul '01

23 Jul '01

> ---------- > From: Black Unicorn[SMTP:unicorn@schloss.li] > > Exercise your right to free speech. Do it carefully. > Use a spotter, protective equipment, and enlist a trained coach. Do warm up exercises first.... :-) Peter

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Antigen found W32/Sircam-A (Sophos) virus
by ANTIGEN_BAMBI 23 Jul '01

23 Jul '01

Antigen for Exchange found synchronized swimming.doc.com infected with W32/Sircam-A (Sophos) virus. The file is currently Removed. The message, "CDR: synchronized swimming", was sent from The Bells and was discovered in IMC Queues\Inbound located at Cognex/Natick/BAMBI.

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Re: Killing the 8 Swiss Anarchists
by Declan McCullagh 23 Jul '01

23 Jul '01

On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 07:08:25PM +0200, Eugene Leitl wrote: > On Fri, 20 Jul 2001 George(a)Orwellian.Org wrote: > > > Oh, sorry, there are Feds listening with no sense of humor. > > What makes you think cpunks is that important? (Besides, the person Don't be silly. We know from sworn testimony in at least one (probably two, but my memory fails me) criminal trials that there are a number of Feds who read cpunks in their official capacities. Whether they have a sense of humor or not as left as an exercise for the observer. -Declan

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Former KKK Strongholds Ban Hoods in Public; ACLU Objects on Free-Speech Grounds
by Mr. Falun Gong 23 Jul '01

23 Jul '01

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGABWS1JIPC.html

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RE: Air Force Turns 747 Into Holster for Giant Laser (washingtonp ost.com)
by Trei, Peter 23 Jul '01

23 Jul '01

With high-powered lasers, one of the important destructive mechanisms is blast - the outer layer of the illuminated object vaporizes, and flies away from the rest of the target. The reactive force of this gives the target a hell of a kick. Kicking off strict alignment with it's flight path, or putting a big dent (or even better a hole) in the side of a missile under several G's of stress traveling at a high Mach number is not healthy for the missile. Laser's have problems though - as they heat the air the refractive index changes, leading to 'blooming' or beam expansion. At too high a power density they can also ionize the air, which makes it effectively opaque. Dust, haze, and clouds are also problems. Using *very* short pulses eliminates many of these problems. Peter Trei > ---------- > From: Steve Schear[SMTP:schear@lvcm.com] > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 1:34 AM > To: cypherpunks(a)lne.com > Subject: Re: Air Force Turns 747 Into Holster for Giant Laser > (washingtonpost.com) > > At 09:14 AM 7/22/2001 -0500, you wrote: > >Point this baby at the ground... > > > >http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A27248-2001Jul20.html > > I wonder what the destructive mechanism is for this system? Heat by > radiant absorption seems an obvious but impractical method. If it is, > then > as the article mentions there may be some inexpensive and practical > countermeasures to such a system, such as making the exterior of the > missile body into a multi-faceted mirror able to reflect both IR and radar > > energy (although doing the same for the nose cone might prove more > difficult due to aerodynamics). > > steve

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Re: NetCurrents: Echelon for the Private Sector,
by Faustine 23 Jul '01

23 Jul '01

Bill wrote: >However, unlike Echelon, they're probably monitoring only conversations >in public spaces, like an extended higher-priced version of >Google/DejaNews. >There's nothing there you wouldn't be able to find on Blacknet :-) John Doe Actually, it's used for whatever the client wants: there's nothing in the technology that prevents it from being applied to private e-mail accounts, or searching all the hard drives on a network. About the "no expectation of privacy in a public place" angle: do you really think two people talking solely to each other on IRC expect their throwaway comments to be monitored, logged, and made part of some lame marketing presentation? Once people know the technical capacity is there for that to happen, that's one thing. But otherwise it hardly seems right. > On Sun, Jul 22, 2001 at 05:15:53PM -0400, Faustine wrote: > > Did you know that NetCurrents, which bills itself as "the Internet's > > Premiere Intelligence Agency", conducts real-time monitoring of message > > boards, chatrooms, and IRC channels, logging and producing reports on all > > occurences of particluar keywords for their clients? > > > > Echelon for the private sector, pure and simple. On 07/22/2001 - 17:52, Declan McCullagh wrote: > And what we would expect the market to do. > If you don't like it, use a nym. Of course you're right, no one can expect to be handed privacy on a platter. How do you feel about web bugs and cookies--if it's part of the private sector, anything goes? I don't think legislation is the answer--educating people so they can take care of themselves makes sense to me. Hence my two cents about Private- sector Echelon. ~Faustine.

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The Digital Millennium Rape Act
by Jim Choate 23 Jul '01

23 Jul '01

http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-07-23-002-20-OP-CY James Choate Product Certification - Operating Systems Staff Engineer 512-436-1062 jchoate(a)tivoli.com

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RE: Air Force Turns 747 Into Holster for Giant Laser (washingtonpost.com)
by Eugene Leitl 23 Jul '01

23 Jul '01

On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Trei, Peter wrote: > With high-powered lasers, one of the important destructive mechanisms > is blast - the outer layer of the illuminated object vaporizes, and > flies away from the rest of the target. The reactive force of this You're orders of magnitude away from such fluxes. You're trying to hit a moving, rapidly accelerating (possibly flying random evasion maneuvres) high-albedo vehicle -- through the Mach cone, through the 100 km of atmosphere filled with clouds, haze, random fluctuations, etc. Once it's past boost phase, it's essentially invulnerable. Chemical lasers have a limited numbers of shots, every energy leaving the vehicle must pass through it's optics aperture (which must be damn transparent). The vehicle is very complicated and delicate, and expensive. Given that you have to make many kills during few 100 s window, it doesn't appear cost-effective. If it's in LEO, I just launch a bucket of tungsten or depleted uranium birdshot in countersense orbit. Given a few iterations, I can keep surprising amounts of orbital space clean of any operable machinery. > gives the target a hell of a kick. Kicking off strict alignment with > it's flight path, or putting a big dent (or even better a hole) in the If you ablate a bit of hull sufficient to change course, you've killed the vehicle, whether solid boosters, or cryogenic fuel tanks. > side of a missile under several G's of stress traveling at a high Mach > number is not healthy for the missile. > > Laser's have problems though - as they heat the air the refractive > index changes, leading to 'blooming' or beam expansion. At too high a > power density they can also ionize the air, which makes it effectively > opaque. Dust, haze, and clouds are also problems. > > Using *very* short pulses eliminates many of these problems. We're not talking about a fuel pellet in the focus of a NOVA laser.

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Thought-A-Day
by Fountain Of Inspiration 23 Jul '01

23 Jul '01

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Re: Killing the 8 Swiss Anarchists
by George＠Orwellian.Org 23 Jul '01

23 Jul '01

Ghoat wrote: # One of the points that Tim is missing is that these demonstraters # are only protecting their property, in their view. In which case Bush just poked them in the eye, with the response to the demonstrators that they are hurting the very poor they claim to represent. He's as anti-green as you get. I wouldn't be surprised if there's an assassination attempt sometime. I'll be it'll happen on August... Oh, sorry, there are Feds listening with no sense of humor. ---- >Sandman wrote: ># ># The part I like is that the wording suggests that the writer ># is surprises that a population can have a lot of guns and "yet ># maintains a remarkably low homicide and armed crime rate." Duh. George(a)Orwellian.Org wrote: > >A different society. > >It wouldn't work here. Bear wrote: # People are surprising. Even the most idiotic can show a grain # of common sense once they realize that their accustomed prey is # carrying. I'd bet that, after an initial few killings, an # amazingly polite and civil society would develop. No. A heat wave would be like a deadly jiffy-pop affair here. I'm sure Tim would envision that as a cool thing.

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