April 2001 - cypherpunks-legacy

What happened with the subpoena: Report from Tacoma courthouse
by Declan McCullagh 03 Apr '01

03 Apr '01

[originally sent to politech] U.S. District Judge Jack Tanner did not grant our motion to quash the subpoena, so I took the stand this afternoon. When I did, I confirmed that I was the author of two Wired News articles and I said I believed those articles were accurate. When the prosecution and (mainly) defense asked me other questions, each time I said I "respectfully declined" to answer that question based on my First Amendment privilege as a journalist. I did this about six times before both sides gave up and said they had no further questions. Also, Assistant U.S. Attorney Robb London asked the judge to declare me a "hostile witness," but Tanner did not rule on the government's motion. The questions I refused to answer included whether I subscribed to the cypherpunks list, whether I interviewed government agents while writing my articles, what else defendant Jim Bell told me in other conversations, and whether I knew cypherpunks co-founder Eric Hughes. I did not answer any of those questions. This morning I emailed family and some close friends with emergency contact info for my attorney, Tim Alger, in case I was held in contempt and went to jail. Some were concerned enough that they already contacted Tim, and it's heartwarming to know that you have friends who will do that for you. Thanks (you know who you are). As an aside, this is a very interesting trial. It appears to be the first time the new "interstate stalking" law will be tested in court, the first time a defendant has been prevented from viewing discovery material because he wishes to post it to the Internet, the first time the Feds appear to be using a GPS bug implanted in a defendant's car, and so on. Local journalists or interested politechnicals may want to stop by the Tacoma federal courthouse tomorrow. I'll send along a writeup of today's proceedings later on. -Declan Tacoma, Washington http://www.politechbot.com/p-01882.html

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The Register - America brainwashed...
by Jim Choate 03 Apr '01

03 Apr '01

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The Register - Fear and loathing in small town America
by Jim Choate 03 Apr '01

03 Apr '01

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/18069.html -- ____________________________________________________________________ Beware gentle knight, there is no greater monster than reason. Miguel de Cervantes The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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The Register - Stab yourself in the back...
by Jim Choate 03 Apr '01

03 Apr '01

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/8/18057.html -- ____________________________________________________________________ Beware gentle knight, there is no greater monster than reason. Miguel de Cervantes The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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The Register - Brit Spooks and RIP
by Jim Choate 03 Apr '01

03 Apr '01

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/18073.html -- ____________________________________________________________________ Beware gentle knight, there is no greater monster than reason. Miguel de Cervantes The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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03 Apr '01

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RSA Conference Expo Free Passes
by Trei, Peter 03 Apr '01

03 Apr '01

Sorry for the late notice, but I just found out that the deadline for obtaining free passes has been extended. While the website puts the free pass period as ending a month ago, they are actually still available, but will probably end today. What: Expo section at the RSA Security 2001 Conference Where: Moscone Center, San Francisco When: 9am-5pm 10-11 April 2001 How: Regsiter at www.rsaconference.com Peter Trei

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03 Apr '01

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For whom the Bell trial tolls...
by Carol Braddock 03 Apr '01

03 Apr '01

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 "Railroading" is the John take on it. He is right. "Fishing Expedition" is the Declan take on it. He is right. "Prosecution Friendly Journalist" is the Seth take on it. He is right. John has put the court documents up. The real truth. This is as much of a railroading as Gotti got. In fact, maybe even worse. Jim Bell hasn't many friends here. Then again neither do I. But I have learned a thing or two about cryptography. How and why I sign this message is my testament to that. Few folks around here even sign messages anymore. So can you know for sure? Probably? Yes. Likely? Yes. For sure? No! I have a heck of a background to witness all this action. I was North Dakota's first convicted stalker. 18 days was all I got. I have been arrested near the Kennedy Compound with a loaded weapon. That was 'assasination politics' firsthand. No jail time. I have testified for the Feds. I still to this day talk to the DA, who's now a U.S. Magistrate I was in the witness protection program. Had a nym before most of you touched a computer. I've also escaped federal custody more than once. Never been charged or convicted. I know both sides of this fence. I don't like Bell. I don't like idle talk of 'assasination politics'. It wastes too much time. He was 100's not a few miles away from where something was 'supposed' to take place, at a future time. He can't even get at his defense records. He gets my sympathy vote. Now along comes poor little Declan, who finally got his motives challenged by Seth. Simply put, if Declan was not "prosecutor friendly" he would not have taken their money. The Wired editors would have put it up for him. Put the shoe on the other foot, would he have taken the same course of action had the defense called him in as a witness? Is there a reason you are arriving at the 'party so late?' Has he even tried to find out what questions the defense is gonna ask? I don't recall having heard an electron particle about that. That is not responsible journalism and at its even more base level it is not even responsible citizenship. Haven't heard much about citizenship with this case. I never have been accused of being a snitch. My direct testimony usually results in people being freed. The Feds still love me as a witness. I could have, but don't want access to any president. I don't need to see anyone killed. I know how to use paint, a paintbrush and canvas pretty well. It works better. Oh, did I forget to mention, I write for the sixth biggest website there is. I have this little tiny corner called eastvillage.about.com. I'm just one of 900 or so sites there. We have all the crazies in NYC there. They make this list rather tame at times. Journalist McCullagh vs Citizen McCullagh I don't think anyone has hit the nail on the head just what the Bell case is all about yet. The outward charges have some sort of underlying psychology to them. And Declan, if you can get off your high horse for a minute, you might just have a seat in the witness box and "sing" to your hearts content. You might do everything but name a source. Heck, you might even spend a day in the cooler or something. But then again you might not, and as I see this coming down, I suspect your confidants might not be so forthcoming in the future. Blaming your plane trouble on Gordon is pure irresponsibility. Taking the Feds money is worse. And Seth even reminded us you have a strike or two against you already. Think. Think think. Think think oh think. Think Declan think. Before the rest of the list gets into character assasination. Carol Anne Cypherpunk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.0 Comment: The ArtCall is now 96% complete. iQA/AwUBOsmugHTq8rNLWU4mEQLFkQCdEED6ObGlfV6cbyFrUGztYRGGBxsAoKHJ IJSgfYM0zn2121sM+PsrhWs3 =B5AX -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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