December 2001 - cypherpunks-legacy

AP Al quim
by mattd 20 Dec '01

20 Dec '01

"Rather, the problem with AP is that it is mob rule at its worst. There are no checks and balances. It is the height of folly to suppose that AP would be used only against those whom cypherpunks themselves oppose, like corrupt government agents. AP could be used against anyone who has a high profile. If AP were implemented, there is no question but that Jim Bell would be one of the first targets! All those people who found himself on his list, along with their heirs and successors, would want revenge. Everyone involved with the assassinations would be anonymous except Bell himself, making him the most prominent target of their wrath. Other notable supporters of crypto anarchy would follow soon, such as cypherpunk founders May and Hughes. The people involved with the digital cash would be targets as well, and so on." Extract from 'nomen nescio' There are checks and balances,get a grip.Read the essay.Its self limiting.No one who is anonymous has anything to fear from AP.They do have a lot to fear from the rogue terror state USA. Bell and I are willing to die,maybe even cj.It will be worth it and theoretically no one need die.Would you start paying to have people killed risking the knowledge of that getting out? There is a disgusting lack of belief in peoples common sense and decency on this list,refs to 'sheeple' etc.Tim said its an openly elitist list once.Thats distorted your view of humanity I think.Tim is too fearful of AP as one of the 4 horsemen. I worry more about pedophiles,the end result of turbocharged capitalism.There are pedo brothel owners that need to be nominated for operation soft drill.I need their names.

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Jonah Goldberg at the end of his rope
by Matthew Gaylor 20 Dec '01

20 Dec '01

[Note from Matthew Gaylor: Your letters and comments have appeared to get under the skin of police state apologist Jonah Goldberg. Since Goldberg mentions his wife, perhaps I should mention that she works as an aide or something for you guessed it John Ashcroft.] <http://www.nationalreview.com/goldberg/goldberg121901.shtml> Cabin Fever A note to readers from the end of the rope. By Jonah Goldberg, NRO editor Jonah Goldberg can be reached at (JonahEmail(a)aol.com) December 19, 2001 4:05 p.m. For those of you truly sick of the libertarian-versus-conservative debate, let me just repeat that, as a conservative, I respect established authority. In this case, that happens to be my wife and she says I'm not allowed to play with the libertarians anymore. [...] ************************************************************************** Subscribe to Freematt's Alerts: Pro-Individual Rights Issues Send a blank message to: freematt(a)coil.com with the words subscribe FA on the subject line. List is private and moderated (7-30 messages per week) Matthew Gaylor, (614) 313-5722 ICQ: 106212065 Archived at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fa/ **************************************************************************

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CYBERWAR: Government Internet Snooping: Out of Control?
by Jei 20 Dec '01

20 Dec '01

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 14:53:03 -0600 From: mark hopkins <markhopkins(a)mindless.com> Reply-To: osint(a)yahoogroups.com To: OSINT <osint(a)yahoogroups.com> Subject: [osint] CYBERWAR: Government Internet Snooping: Out of Control? Rizzn's Wartime Factbook: http://factbook.diaryland.com/ The Best UAV: http://www.unmannedaircraft.com > http://www.ecommercetimes.com/perl/story/15364.html > > Government Internet Snooping: Out of Control? > > By Jay Lyman > www.NewsFactor.com, > Part of the NewsFactor Network > December 18, 2001 > > Despite an unwillingness to criticize the government and its Magic Lantern > plans, most antivirus experts assert that no computer worm is a good worm. > > While no one wants to stand in the way of the U.S. government and its use of > technology to tackle terrorism, privacy advocates and security experts > continue to express the same low-tech concerns -- that oversight of > government snooping is inadequate and that the United States has proven it > cannot keep the information it collects safe. > > Law enforcement officials have received even broader powers thanks to recent > antiterrorism legislation, such as the PATRIOT Act and cyber-terrorism laws, > which allows wider application of electronic surveillance with less > obtrusive warrant requirements. > > Civil libertarians have focused much of their attention on the Federal > Bureau of Investigation's e-mail scanning DCS1000, better known as > Carnivore, and its deployment on large Internet service provider (ISP) > networks. > > In addition, the FBI admitted last week that it is developing a computer > worm capable of recording and transmitting data to investigators -- the > project called "Magic Lantern." > http://www.ecommercetimes.com/perl/story/15301.html > > New Tech, Old Problems > > Despite an unwillingness to criticize the government and its Magic Lantern > plans, most antivirus experts assert that no computer worm is a good worm. > > Concerns center on a lack of control over a virus on the Internet and the > fear that Magic Lantern, which the government reportedly plans to ask > antivirus vendors to allow through their security screens, would provide an > attack avenue for other viruses that emulate it. > > Electronic Privacy Information Center legislative counsel Chris Hoofnagle > told NewsFactor Network that regardless of the technology -- Carnivore, > Magic Lantern or anything else -- the same concerns apply. > > "The FBI has always underestimated the amount of process they need, which is > natural -- it's a zealous defense of law enforcement," he said. "What review > or court oversight will the FBI deem appropriate for the use of new > technology? The challenge is keeping the FBI honest about the amount of > court oversight." > > Beyond Government > > Hoofnagle also expressed concern that any technology used by the government > is likely to make its way into the hands of non-government individuals as > well as foreign governments. > > "These surveillance techniques are not limited to the American government," > he said. "That needs to be thought through." > > Hoofnagle argued for privacy protections, adding that government > technologies -- such as Carnivore, which was discovered after its mention > during an FBI trade show address -- are difficult to uncover. > > "There is not a general way to figure out what the government or National > Security Agency might be developing on their own," Hoofnagle said. "So you > never know what's going on out there." > > Insecure With Uncle Sam > > http://www.securityfocus.com/ > Security Focus incident analyst Ryan Russell told NewsFactor that in > addition to privacy concerns, there is a mistrust of government and its > handling of personal or sensitive information. > > > "Nobody's real thrilled with the government's record of securing its own > stuff," Russell said. "Even if you're not worried about abuse of authority, > what about the computer the stuff is actually stored on? Is it going to be > stored on one of the computers the [General Accounting Office] keeps > faulting?" > > Holding the Keys > > Russell said that while the security community is predominately opposed to > giving government the keys to encryption, a better model is to have private > companies hold secure data and provide law enforcement with access to it. > > Both Russell and Hoofnagle said the biggest concern for computer users is > probably the fact that recent legislation has established lighter warrant > requirements for e-mail and Internet surveillance. > > "Once the U.S. Attorney certifies that the application of Carnivore is > relevant to an ongoing investigation, the judge's discretion stops," > Hoofnagle said. > > "We're always skeptical, we're always questioning. 'Trust us' isn't > sufficient." > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Tiny Wireless Camera under $80! Order Now! FREE VCR Commander! 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Re: Pentagon Trying to Block Advanced EU Space Project
by Major Variola (ret) 20 Dec '01

20 Dec '01

At 05:14 PM 12/20/01 +0200, Jei wrote: >Subject: [ParanoidTimes] Pentagon Trying to Block Advanced EU Space Project > >PARIS - The European Commission said Tuesday that the >United States had sought to block the deployment of a >European system of navigation known as Galileo, with >the Americans arguing that an enemy could turn it >against the West in the event of a war. >But President Jacques Chirac of France warned that >Europeans risked "vassal status" if they abandoned >this and other important space projects. *Ding* Give the monkey a bon-bon.

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Pentagon Trying to Block Advanced EU Space Project
by Jei 20 Dec '01

20 Dec '01

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 12:16:06 -0800 (PST) From: Cheri <cherianderson2001(a)yahoo.com> Reply-To: ParanoidTimes(a)yahoogroups.com To: paranoidtimes(a)yahoogroups.com Subject: [ParanoidTimes] Pentagon Trying to Block Advanced EU Space Project U.S. Out of Line on Global Positioning, EU Says Barry James International Herald Tribune Wednesday, December 19, 2001 PARIS - The European Commission said Tuesday that the United States had sought to block the deployment of a European system of navigation known as Galileo, with the Americans arguing that an enemy could turn it against the West in the event of a war. The U.S. move added to the economic and political pressures surrounding the project in Europe, where many countries see it as a vital means of catching up with America in a key technology sector but others balk at the expense. Only last weekend, at a summit meeting in Brussels, leaders of the European Union instructed government ministers to try to resolve the financing issues by March. A spokesman for the commission said the U.S. Defense Department had written to the defense ministers of the 15 EU countries warning that Galileo could be used by an enemy and asking governments to consider scrapping the project. But President Jacques Chirac of France warned that Europeans risked "vassal status" if they abandoned this and other important space projects. France and several other governments, as well as the European Commission, see Galileo as a vital counterweight to the U.S. Global Positioning System, which has a vast number of military and civilian applications, from landing smart weapons on target to locating trucks on a continental highway network. The United States offers free use of the Global Positioning System to the EU countries, but the commission spokesman, Gilles Gantelet, said there was no guarantee that it would still be free in 10 years' time. Loyola de Palacio, the European commissioner in charge of the Galileo project, angrily denounced the prospects of further delays. "We are at the limits of coherence already," she said, "and any new delay threatens the profitability of the project." While the United States had originally expressed its support for the European project, Mrs. Palacio said there was now "a letter and pressure exerted by the United States. American pressure against the Galileo project has increased since September 11." The commission says the project must be operational by 2008 to be profitable. This is partly because the World Telecommunication Union has guaranteed radio frequencies only up to that date, and partly because the EU has entered into commitments with a number of other countries, including the United States, Canada, Russia and China. Under the worst possible scenario, including the need for backup launchers and satellites, the final bill to deploy Galileo could be as high as E3.6 billion ($3.2 billion), according to an independent accounting survey carried out on behalf of the commission this year. But the accounting study also estimated that Galileo would generate economic benefits more than four times greater than that, with wide scale applications in transport and personal communications, and a vital contribution to the operations of police, fire and emergency services. The study indicated substantial social and economic benefits, "notably for the protection of the environment, employment and European technological development." Mr. Gantelet said the U.S. objections were contained in a letter dated Dec. 4 from the deputy secretary of defense, Paul Wolfowitz. He said the Americans considered, "in times of conflict, they would have problems because of Galileo. They feel that the enemy could use some applications of Galileo and that they could not impede that." According to diplomatic sources who have seen the letter, Mr. Wolfowitz said the United States was planning to upgrade its Global Positioning System by separating the military and civilian spectra. The addition of Galileo services in the same spectra, the letter said, "will significantly complicate our ability to ensure availability of critical GPS services in times of crisis or conflict and at the same time assure that adversary forces are denied similar capabilities." He said the U.S. government was willing to work toward finding acceptable solutions to "avert potentially serious impacts." The apparent U.S. bid to block Galileo is likely to have the most resonance precisely in the countries most skeptical about the project: Britain, the Netherlands and Germany. They argue in essence that it is pointless to spend so much money on something they can get for free from the United States. Because of their objections, EU transport ministers refused on Dec. 7 to release money to fund the next phase of the project. In a speech to the National Center for Space Studies in Paris, Mr. Chirac said that satellite navigation had vital commercial and industrial applications and would be a key factor in the European Union's ambition to build up an independent security capability, with the planned creation of a rapid reaction military force. Mr. Chirac said the United States spent six times more on space ventures than the European Union. 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[osint] Reverse wiretaps placed on law enforcement phones (fwd)
by Jei 20 Dec '01

20 Dec '01

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 14:49:26 -0600 From: mark hopkins <markhopkins(a)mindless.com> Reply-To: osint(a)yahoogroups.com To: Spy News <spynews(a)yahoogroups.com>, OSINT <osint(a)yahoogroups.com> Subject: [osint] Reverse wiretaps placed on law enforcement phones Very interesting story -- hadn't heard anything about this up to now. /mark Rizzn's Wartime Factbook: http://factbook.diaryland.com/ The Best UAV: http://www.unmannedaircraft.com ----- Original Message ----- More on the Isreal spy ring in the USA. NEWSMAX REPORTS: The discovery of a major spy ring inside the United States is straining the already tense relations with Israel. Although, Israel denied any involvement with the penetration of the U.S. wiretap system, the CIA and FBI are investigating the direct government ties to the former Israeli military and intelligence officials now being held by the Justice Department. One major drug bust operation planned by the Los Angeles police was foiled by what now appear to be reverse wiretaps placed on law enforcement phones by the criminal spy ring. more.. http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/12/18/224826.shtml [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -------------------------- Brooks Isoldi, editor bisoldi(a)intellnet.org http://www.intellnet.org Post message: osint(a)yahoogroups.com Subscribe: osint-subscribe(a)yahoogroups.com Unsubscribe: osint-unsubscribe(a)yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

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Double the Reward for Errors in _Disappearing Cryptography_
by Peter Wayner 20 Dec '01

20 Dec '01

I'm working on a second edition of _Disappearing Cryptography_, a book about steganography and anonymity on-line. Last week, I offered a $10 reward for anyone who reports the technical errors in the first edition to me. This week I'm doubling the reward to $20 per error. Why? Because I've only gotten one report. That means there are either few errors or the incentive isn't large enough. So let's try again. Here are the rules: *) Only the first person to report an error wins a prize. This is the only way to avoid many people submitting the same error again and again and again. I reserve the right to pay duplicate prizes to people who appear to have submitted a duplicate in good faith. (The only one reported is on page 27 in a sentence describing the Euler Totient Function.) *) I reserve the right to decide the size of an error. If misspellings counted, spelling someone's name incorrectly throughout the entire book would only count as one error. *) First person is judged by the time the error arrives in my mailbox, pcw(a)flyzone.com. *) Only technical errors count. Grammar and spelling errors could bankrupt me, even after the copy editing fixes 99%. *) Please submit the page number. *) Please let me know if you want your name included in the thanks at the beginning of the book. Thank you. You're free to forward this offer to any other list. -Peter pcw(a)flyzone.com

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IRS Agent Goes Berserk, Cops refuse to prosecute, and AP candidates
by mattd 20 Dec '01

20 Dec '01

>>You know, historically, when there is no reliable justice system, society gets blood feuds, etc. When the justice system is unreliable for sheeple but reliable for a special class, maybe AP *does* have a future. Meanwhile the traditional bag of cash & friend of a friend will have to do.<< Back to the future.The wild west with computers.Westworld.Vigilante justice in slow motion via AP gives bad guys and gals time to "Get out of Dodge!" If AP doesnt have a future soon,real soon,I dont think any of us have. Dreaming Of Ewe http://www.nuku.com/android.html

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prisoners dilemma
by mattd 20 Dec '01

20 Dec '01

anarchy is possible The results of Axelrod studies prove that under certain conditions cooperation among individuals can emerge and be stable without the need of a central authority, regardless of the selfish or altruist nature of the interactants. http://www.geocities.com/Broadway/Stage/8733/ipd.html Possible to have smuggled posts from former list members published? Several books have been written this way. Information does want to be free.

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Good Punkrockin' tonight.
by mattd 20 Dec '01

20 Dec '01

>>"``It's about time for artists to take control of their work and how it is presented to our fans,'' said Dexter Holland of the band Offspring, which will perform as part of the effort." [...] .g -- "Sometimes I use google instead of pants." << Pretty fly for a white guy,the original pranksters,are you OK annie?Renegades of funk.Your number is one.Its about time we all take control of our work...with crypto-anarchy.Real anarchy,not tim mays cheap jackshit knockoff.anarcho-capitalism.Capitalism is looking down the barrel of a mofo cannon as any fule no. Punk was much more than fad or fashion; it demonstrated the fractal effect in culture, showing how small events, the acts of a few people, can cause ripples around the world. Punk demanded and received a response Punk's attack on the establishment and institutions of the day, its willingness to exploit taboos for fun and profit, was supremely effective at getting up noses. So what, for all its loudmouth posturing, is punk's legacy? Damning God and the state, work and leisure, home and family, sex and play, the audience and itself, the music briefly made it possible to experience all these things as if they were not natural facts but ideological constructs: things that had been made and therefore could be altered, or done away with altogether. It became possible to see those things as bad jokes and for the music to come forth as a better joke The charts for three guitar chords (A, E and G) above a simple exhortation: "Now form a band." For many people, that defined punk.

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