December 2001 - cypherpunks-legacy

Anarchist Q+A.Are anarcho-capitalists part of the anarchist movement?
by mattd 22 Dec '01

22 Dec '01

ANARCHIST QUESTION AND ANSWER Q. Are anarcho-capitalists part of the anarchist movement? A. Anarcho-capitalism, a philosophy taken up by the Libertarian wing of the New Right in the United States, has nothing to do with anarchism. Capitalist societies do not need the State to survive, but they do need privatised defence forces to survive. When you have one group of people amassing wealth (anarcho-capitalists) and another group working to amass that wealth for them, you have all the ingredients that are needed to create private armies. These armies are needed to protect the assets of those people who use other people's labor to amass their wealth. The twentieth century reformist state evolved as a direct consequence of the rising levels of violence that were occurring between those who produced wealth and those who amassed it. A limited state apparatus, the type that anarcho-capitalists need to survive, has limited functions, it protects those with power and wealth and does not interfere when those who amass wealth exploits those who make wealth for them. The reformist state has evolved to protect those with power and wealth from violence by limiting their ability (not removing their ability) to exploit those who make wealth for them. Anarchism cannot exist without people having both the power to determine their own affairs, as well as having access to the common wealth. You can make all the decisions you like, but if you don't have access to the resources to make those decisions a reality, having the power to make decisions doesn't mean much. Anarcho-capitalists believe in and accept inequalities in wealth. They want to create a society where they can amass all the wealth they like, without having to worry about a state apparatus, setting limits on the methods they use to acquire that wealth. They want to replace the reformist state with private armies that they control, that's why they want to break the power of the centralized State. They have no interest in creating societies that hold wealth in common and that allow the people involved in a decision to make that decision.

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Anarchists and old lace.
by mattd 22 Dec '01

22 Dec '01

TRANSPORT DREAMING I don't want to give Mr. Bob Annells, the Executive Chairman of Connex, nightmares, but his statement on the front page of the Age (Dec 11) that transport operators in Melbourne face entrenched cultural factors that underpin fare evasion that include everyone from anarchists to little old ladies. "We have everything from the anarchists who believe they are bringing down the capitalist system by riding for free, to the little old ladies, who say they are making a social protest about privitisation and the removal of tram conductors" , is much closer to the mark, than he realises. Some of the most persistent critics of the privitisation of public transport, are little old ladies, who are part of Melbourne's anarchist community. What gives them that fire in the belly that sustains their campaigns against corporations like Connex, is their disgust at the type of society Australia has become. They are sick and tired of listening to trans-national corporations that pay minimal tax call on the public, to subsidise their losses, while they're happy to transfer their profits to their head offices overseas. They're sick and tired of seeing workers taking the brunt of the corporate cost cutting exercises and commuters being treated as criminals. They're sick and tired of seeing the run down of an essential public service, the public transport system, but most importantly of all, they are sick and tired of seeing lame duck governments that theoretically represent the people representing the interests of the Corporate Sector. If Mr. Annells is so concerned about the lack of Connex's ability to make a profit, because of the entrenched cultural factors surrounding fare evasion in Melbourne, why doesn't he do all of us a favour and give the half of Melbourne's train network that Connex runs, back to the State government. If the State government is serious about representing the interests of the people of Victoria, not the Corporate Sector, why don't they all do Victorian's a favour and make public transport free in this State? The social, cultural, economic and environmental benefits of such an audacious move on the part of the State government, would far outweigh the cost to the State. Just in case the Peter Batchelors of the world throw up their hands in horror and say, "the State government doesn't have the money for such a move." The money can be found by removing corporate subsides and by placing a levy on every motor vehicle and every ratable property in the State. Any short term political resistance to such a move, would be far outweighed by the long-term benefits to the Victorian community. And then free ISPs please,TIA.proffr1.

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Eurorepression worst since you know when.
by mattd 22 Dec '01

22 Dec '01

In Britain we can feel proud that we are leading the way in the race to the bottom of the civil liberties barrel. On Monday the Anti-Terrorism, Crime and Security Act became law - two days later eight people became the lucky winners in the 'we've decided you're a terrorist so were locking you up without trial' Christmas draw. This hotch-potch of a bill includes not just internment (see SchNEWS 331), but a whole host of civil liberty busting BLAH. As Raif Smyth from the Coalition Against the Terror Act said "The truth is, the mandarins at the Home Office have used the Bill as a Trojan horse to get into law all the dodgy proposals at the bottom of their filing cabinets." In Europe, heads of state are pushing ahead with an "anti-terrorism roadmap" with plans to add two new databases on the Schengen Information System (SIS - see SchNEWS 312). SIS already holds files on nearly one and a half million people. One of the new databases would cover public order and protests and lead to, "Barring potentially dangerous persons from participating in certain events." Such as anti capitalist protests outside international summits by any chance? "Targetted" suspects would be tagged with an "alert" on the SIS computer, barring them from entering the country where a protest or event was taking place. In the Czech Republic, a new law permits the prosecution of people expressing sympathy for the attacks on New York, or even of those sympathising with the sympathisers! Already one Czech journalist, Tomas Pecina, a reporter for the Prague-based investigative journal Britske Listy, has been arrested and charged for criticising the use of the law, on the grounds that this makes him, too, a supporter of terrorism. Meanwhile in Turkey, that well known human rights haven, just publishing a book by Noam Chomsky could land Fatih Tas with a fine or spell in prison, under the country's anti-terrorism laws. Chomsky apparently overstepped the mark when he wrote in 'US Interventions': "the Kurds have been oppressed throughout history... but that changed (in 1984) tens of thousands of people were killed, two or three million had to migrate, 3,500 villages were destroyed... an intense ethnic clean-up." So while it's ok for the Turkish state to carry out attacking the Kurds, it's terrorism and "separatist propaganda" to talk about it.

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More Jailed Punks
by mattd 22 Dec '01

22 Dec '01

A - I N F O S N E W S S E R V I C E http://www.ainfos.ca/ ________________________________________________ 3 punks from Warsaw were sentenced yesterday by Warsaw court to 3,5 years of prison for alleged assault and robbery of 3 nazi skinheads. Fourth accused were cleared of charges and remains free. Verdict will be appealed. Judge gave show of total ignorance and hostility against punks, talking about their style of dressing etc. Sentence is very high as none of the accused were previously sentenced and they had clear criminal record. It was clear attempt to punish them for what they are. soja, ABC Bialystok -- Tego nie znajdziesz w zadnym sklepie! [ http://oferty.onet.pl ]

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Slashdot | Lawrence Lessig Answers Your Questions
by Jim Choate 22 Dec '01

22 Dec '01

http://slashdot.org/interviews/01/12/21/155221.shtml -- -- ____________________________________________________________________ Day by day the Penguins are making me lose my mind. Bumper Sticker The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Steal This Essay 1: Content Is a Pure Public Good,
by mattd 22 Dec '01

22 Dec '01

Given a clone your own kit for an early xmas pressy Im splicing a rotweiller and a Shoat.Ill keep you posted. http://www.netsertion.com/ tech ripping you off? Just add more tech."Property is theft"Proudon.

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Danny Glover Vs Oliver North
by mattd 22 Dec '01

22 Dec '01

Subject: Danny Glover Under Attack by Oliver North Danny Glover Under Attack by Oliver North et al (english) by popopo 12:15am Sat Dec 22 '01 (Modified on 3:18am Sat Dec 22 '01) because he is against the death penalty and that is being used to target him in another one of these right-wing smear campaigns the country is so fond of right now. Subject: Fwd: FW: Danny Glover Under Attack ---------- From: Juliette Beck <juliette(a)globalexchange.org (by way of Mark Ingles) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 15:57:28 -0800 From: "Fran Korten" <fkorten(a)futurenet.org Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 15:07:25 -0800 Subject: Danny Glover Under Attack Dear member of the State of the Possible community, Here's a message to act on and to send on to your networks. Danny Glover, actor, activist, and board member of the Positive Futures Network, has been coming under a hailstorm of attacks based on an incident following a speech he gave at Princeton on November 16. This is not just about Danny. It's about all of us. As Danny noted in his speech "When we fear, we clamp down on those who do not think like us or who do not look like us." We see that happening everywhere, as our leaders look for total support for their military agenda and view dissent as unpatriotic. As we enter this McCarthyesque period, I think we are all called upon to be more courageous, more articulate in our views, and more supportive of one another. HERE'S WHAT HAPPENED TO DANNY On November 16, at the invitation of the local Amnesty International chapter, Danny gave a speech about the death penalty to a packed auditorium at Princeton University. Danny is well known for his opposition to the death penalty. He pointed out that 98 death row inmates have recently been released after new evidence demonstrated their innocence. He also noted the racial bias in the system in which 43 percent of 741 executed prisoners were African Americans. His speech was received enthusiastically by a sympathetic audience. After the close of the speech, when many had already left the auditorium, a young man questioned Danny in such racist language that the remaining audience booed the questioner. Danny signaled for quiet, saying we need to listen to all. The questioner accused Danny of "playing the victim" and suggested he go back and fix his own communities rather than blame racism. He also wanted to know if Danny would extend his opposition to the death penalty to Osama bin Laden. Danny affirmed his opposition to the death penalty, period. The provocative exchange continued, with Danny noting that America has been a key purveyor of violence in this world. Danny also voiced his objections to the military tribunals that President Bush has created. These comments have elicited a hailstorm of outrage. For two weeks The Trentonian newspaper ran angry comments suggesting that if Danny didn't love this country he should leave it -- and worse. Oliver North broadcast the story across the country on his Radio America show, provoking hundreds of hate-filled calls to Danny's agency in Los Angeles. North urged his audience to boycott The Royal Tenenbaums -- a movie to be released in late December in which Danny stars along with Gwyneth Paltrow, Gene Hackman, Anjelica Huston, Ben Stiller, Bill Murray, and others. In Modesto, California, the controversy caused the City Council to pull out of sponsoring Danny as the featured speaker for the celebration of Martin Luther King Day. Fortunately, the local planning committee for the event has maintained their invitation and Danny plans to speak. According to the Modesto Bee, "John Lucas, president of the Modesto Peace Life Center, one of the sponsors, noted that King himself was controversial and criticized the Vietnam War. Lucas does not think Glover's views are much different from those King might have had if he were alive today. 'The interesting thing I find is that Martin Luther King wouldn't be invited to his own event,'" he said. WHAT YOU CAN DO Those who would stifle dissent are quick to express their opinions and target anyone who takes a larger view of patriotism. We too must be ready to respond quickly in our vigilant defense of real democracy. **MODESTO: Show support for Danny -- and for free speech -- in Modesto. If you know anyone around that area, urge them to attend! Danny will speak on Saturday, January 19 at 7:00 p.m. at the Christ Unity Baptist Church at 1320 L St. in Modesto (Call the Peace Life Center for further information: 209/529-5750). Fax the Modesto City Council at 209/571-5586 or write them at Modesto City Council, P.O. Box 642, Modesto CA 94341 saying you support free speech and disagree with their decision to pull their backing for Danny's appearance at the MLK Day activities. **THE MOVIE: Here's an easy one. See the Royal Tenenbaums -- don't let Ollie North's call for a boycott depress the box office. **MLK Day. Let's celebrate Martin Luther King Day with an extra measure of clarity about his courage in consistently urging this nation to live up to its ideals of democracy, freedom, and peace. **SUPPORT EACH OTHER. Let's look for every opportunity to support one another. What happened to Danny is happening to many others. This is a time for courage and mutual support. Fran Frances F. Korten, Executive Director The Positive Futures Network, publisher of YES! magazine P.O. Box 10818, Bainbridge Island, WA 98110 206/842-0216 fkorten(a)futurenet.org www.yesmagazine.org -- Frances F. Korten Executive Director Positive Futures Network PO Box 10818 Bainbridge Island, WA 98110 fkorten(a)futurenet.org www.yesmagazine.org 206/842-0216 (tel) 206/842-5208 (fax) 1 other thing (english) by proffr1@etc 3:18am Sat Dec 22 '01 Support the proffr "kill ollie" campaign.Start by sending ON copies of "assassination politics",by jim bell.If he cant take a hint,pool and pledge enough to pay the closest prediction of ONs permanent retirement from politics.Something thats long overdue. "Simon wiesenthal was under the impression that tracking down people who did bad things for the government was not only acceptable, but in fact laudatory." We need some vietnamese simons,some central and southern american simons and some arabic and Iranian simons.Im an anti-militarist simon.Oliver North is a liar,murderer by remote control and green collar crook.The scum deserves to die.Good riddance ollie,you straining anus. Killthepresident,proffr1 Im suprised the friends and relatives of some of the 80 US marines havent punched ollie a new one. The fact that cold blooded state torture and murder is carried out by volunteers in the prison service would seem to make them almost perfect AP nominee's.Creepy fuckers like that would surely not be missed and the govt would learn who was boss.

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Slashdot | FBI, Pentagon Talk to MS about XP Hole
by Jim Choate 22 Dec '01

22 Dec '01

http://slashdot.org/articles/01/12/22/1329253.shtml -- -- ____________________________________________________________________ Day by day the Penguins are making me lose my mind. Bumper Sticker The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Hillary style health plan to save US
by anonymous＠coward.org 22 Dec '01

22 Dec '01

mattd wrote: > AU has a national health scheme,I used it to have a graft on my eardrum > several years back.Didnt cost a cent. > There are gaps in the system such as long waiting lists and poor dental > cover,its also under pressure from the economic > 'rationalists' esp in the liberal party.The only reason I mention such a > creation of the hated state is that it could soon be a matter of life or > death for many septic tanks.The foot and mouth outbreak in Britain would > have been nipped in the bud a lot quicker had computerized tags been > used.There's some scrambling around now in the US to shore up sagging > public health infrastructure.What's probably really needed is something > like I seem to remember Lady C proposing.I'm boosting 2 things here that > on the surface may seem anathema to anarchists.IDs for all and > socialized medicine. Am I wrong to? YES, you are. The aims don't justify the means (initiatory-force regulation of healthcare which is what will happen). Besides that you're not going to reach the aims anyways. Look at what is happening on europe: all insurances are forced on the government standard -- politicians dictate what medicine should be used, prohibiting expensive and alternative products and therapies. The REAL price ultimately includes governmentalisation and bureauratization of practiced medicine. People have to pay more and more for public healthcare tax because the public insurance (and the gov's healthcare standard to which all insurances have to adhere) isn't rentable. Public healthcare was Hillary's masterpiece of economic destruction back then. Be happy that it didn't come to it. Please don't fall for those lawyer-type destructions and antiindivdualistic intrusions for Mrs C's often-cited, very own "social good".

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book
by mattd 22 Dec '01

22 Dec '01

>>Bought a copy of True Names and read it last night. Great story, especially considering the date. The first net-fi I read was Neuromancer in '84. Im yet to have the pleasure of either,Does 'Billion dollar brain",by len Deighton squeeze into the genre? >>R. Stallman's Right to Read short story is sickeningly close to reality. I don't care one way or the other if Microsoft patents and creates an OS that does DRM but I do care about having it forced down my throat at the hands of congressvermin and corporations which, as I see it, is practically a certainty.<< They are patenting our DNA,the freeTM market is a very strict mistress.MS and its precious code is now listed as a security risk. The wisdom of insecurity by watts,springs to mind."when you can snatch the source code from my fingers..." Dont knock corporations here mike, jamesd will be on your case like a latter day roy cohn.Tims freeper hatchet man. >>Tim's essay was mostly the familiar stuff, nicely organized and presented. The style was almost academic but I notice he did slip one "spokesvermin" reference in there<< Tim says jya should not be seen as representative of this list.Ill take him over timmy anyday.Tim May is well past his useby date.The familiar stuff deconstructs into lame self mythologizing,dead data and puff pieces on cyber-liberty. Academic in the use of jargon,obscurantist verbiage,pretentious drivel,reactionary nonsense?I'm not surprised. >>So, Tim, we seem to have raced closer if not past the fork in the road, especially since September. Recalling Yogi Berra's "when you come to the fork in the road, take it", have we taken it? And if so which path? Tim May: Deja vu all over again.Verbal contracts not worth the paper they're written on,etc...Fork off tim. >>The fork analogy may be too simple. The natural path for a vital culture is the crypto-anarchist path. The path of increasing state control is the natural path for the maintenance and accumulation of power. We all see the forces in operation, it's pretty much the topic 24/7. I think the forces that bind this mess together increase with distance, the more free the net becomes the greater the perceived threat and the desire to reign it in. The tighter the controls the greater the desire to break free. On each side there are those for whom compromise is unacceptable. In the middle are the nearly oblivious masses who can with varying degrees of success be swayed one way or the other from time to time. Fear seems to be their main motivator. << 30% of the pop may support the revolution,30% may oppose it,the rest are on the fence.The way to leverage relatively small no's through anonymity and the web is to use AP to defend and extend the web."the net is closing in"and not just on bin laden.What anarchy? Why die for timmy mays casper milquetoast version when the real things on the streets. Alternatively,lie low,stay anon,the state of grace is quad anon.Both will be needed.Mays cod anarchism will not. Fear is the key and the only thing to fear is fear itself."extremely dark markets'should not be feared.Viva anarchy! >>Rather than making a choice and following any single path we are following two concurrent and divergent paths and the energy level is increasing. We are headed for a period of escalation. It's definitely a new 'War on Drugs' scenario, just as dangerous, just as futile and just as sustainable. Mike << Who's this "we",whiteman? After prohibition 2,vietnam 2,bush 2 its time for civil war 2.The coasts march on crawford and liberate the chicago and minnesota communes.In the dreamtime of one persyn who's been down the other side of the mountain and knows the world can live out the true meaning of this creed,"Liberty without socialism is privilege,injustice;Socialism without liberty is slavery and brutality." Bakunin: Sustainable is as sustainable does.

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