December 2001 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Fear and Trembling
by Faustine 28 Dec '01

28 Dec '01

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 At 09:53 PM 12/27/01 -0800, John Young wrote: >Targets for centers of these exports are not hard to >identify, David wrote: >>After the WTC, the only truly theatrically worth it >>encore I can think of is a stinger at the space shuttle. >>This would not trepan the serpent but would >>kick the angst up a notch. Funny, I assumed all along John was just rorschachblotting around to avoid saying the unsayable, i.e. bringing up the idea of simultaneous detonation of suitcase nukes in multiple metropolitan areas. But even that wouldn't pack the same punch as if had come before the WTC/Pentagon/Anthrax crisis. The psychological impact of an entire population seeing the towers go down in flames over and over again is probably more significant than we'll ever know. Also, I dont think there's really any reason to assume that Americans are so soft and weak they'd roll over and die at the prospect of a real home war. For every hundred (thousand?) people whining around begging for the government to hand them safety on a silver platter, there's at least a couple arming themselves and laying in supplies to take responsibility for their own security. All the people who organized themselves for Y2K are already there: the fact that so many more woke up post 9-11 and started integrating survivalist ideas into their everyday experience has to be a positive thing. History shows that in any war or crisis, some people will pull it together and pull through, others won't. America won't be any different. You never know how people are going to act--what they're really made of--until they're actually put through the fire. The only thing you know for certain is that people will surprise you. Besides, the much-ballyhooed "American sense of security" always was a middle class myth. How easy it is for smug and comfy desk workers to forget that a good number of their fellow Americans face hunger and a violent death on the street every single day of the year. Abandoned, destitute, homeless, those garbagey hordes of little inner city kids know a thing or two about how to stay alive. Wretched, but with the perserverance and cunning of sewer rats. Would you have ever guessed that's my background unless I told you? The Law of the Yukon, baby. Adapt or die. ~Faustine. *** He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself. - --Thomas Paine -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. (Diffie-Helman/DSS-only version) iQA/AwUBPCzQh/g5Tuca7bfvEQIM0ACgorG+h2oh4+9j4OZZHXJV6Umns+EAoNc/ aOMAlKe+TIiWKzluWI0YKFeA =lYT9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Western Culture
by F. Marc de Piolenc 28 Dec '01

28 Dec '01

"The Western conceit that its culture is so superior that it must impose it on others through missionary campaigns now many centuries old, through economic policies, through eduation, through foreign policies, through military enforcement, and through disparagement of other cultures, has bred a deep seated anger toward the prime exporters, the idea supremacists of state, church and family." A pity to see terrorist propaganda taken up in this place where reality should prevail. Western culture stopped spreading by force before WWII, but it's still in demand. Guess what - it IS superior! Not surprisingly, cultures based on individual rights and the cultivation of reason are more effective than those based on conformity and superstition. Sorry if you don't like that, but it's true. And it is that ineluctable FACT that the fanatics of 9/11 hate. They hate the fact that the people they want to control like our culture better. Marc de Piolenc Iligan, Lanao del Norte Philippines -- Remember September 11, 2001 but don't forget July 4, 1776 Rather than make war on the American people and their liberties, ...Congress should be looking for ways to empower them to protect themselves when warranted. They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin

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Re: Tim May;Anarcho-phony,cheap fraud and despicable , coward.RIP.,
by mattd 28 Dec '01

28 Dec '01

>>>>| Anarchism is a variant of socialism > > an7ar7chism (nr-kzm) > n. > > The theory or doctrine that all forms of government are oppressive > and > undesirable and should be abolished. > > Which is self-referential (it basically says that even anarchism will > oppress). << > > Indeed.Especially where delegates are not rotated and revocable.See jamesd > for the dangers anarchism in practise. You don't need James D., all you've got to do is look to your neighbors. In an anarchism what is illegal is whatever you do that irritates your neighbors. Which is about as coersive as it gets, need an example of why CACL doesnt' work, look at the discussion around the 'CDR:' in message titles. If your neighbors are irritated by what your doing,you might examine what your doing.APster describes a way of handling car thieves if you read the essay,assassination politics.Anarchism is the best way to minimize coercion.For the difference between anarchism and CACL see...http://world.std.com/~mhuben/leftlib.html Im hoping some recent threads here might be added to this exellent site soon,real soon.CACL proponents don't even believe their own arguments or they would all go off and try it on an Island somewhere and stop trying to leech off the good name of anarchy.>>look at the discussion around the 'CDR:' in message titles. <<Im not sure what you mean by this,however Im interested in prolonging this thread as long as possible until everyone here see's Tim May for the CIA stooge that he is.Get back to me jim if your not to busy running around like a blue arsed fly.

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New 2002 Gov Grants Info Package........... 14683
by g7459＠ok.ru 28 Dec '01

28 Dec '01

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by Jim Choate 28 Dec '01

28 Dec '01

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Euro bank notes to embed RFID chips by 2005 (fwd)
by Jim Choate 28 Dec '01

28 Dec '01

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 08:09:24 -0700 From: "R. A. Hettinga" <rah(a)shipwright.com> To: Digital Bearer Settlement List <dbs(a)philodox.com>, cryptography(a)wasabisystems.com Cc: Bob Antia <antia(a)exodus.net>, Jack Driscoll <JPD(a)nutter.com>, Thaer Sabri <thaer(a)well.com>, Andrew Forbes <aforbes808(a)email.msn.com>, Duncan Goldie-Scot <dgs(a)live.co.uk>, "R. A. Hettinga" <rah(a)shipwright.com>, Alexander Jenkins <sormani(a)mindspring.com>, Mark McCarren <mmccarren(a)mediaone.net>, Fearghas McKay <fm(a)St-Kilda.org>, Kevin McLellan <kmclellan(a)mediaone.net>, Kevin McLellan <kmclella(a)mit.edu>, Vinnie Moscaritolo <vinnie(a)vmeng.com>, Graham Sterling <agsjr(a)shore.net>, Mark Tenney <mfc(a)adams.patriot.net>, Randolph Elliott <elliott(a)engineous.com>, Michael Frese <Michael.Frese(a)numerex.com>, NicholasFC(a)aol.com, Colin Taggart <colin(a)intertrader.com>, Matt Frese <Frese(a)jhu.edu>, "Bradford C. Frese" <Bradford.C.Frese(a)Dartmouth.EDU> Subject: Euro bank notes to embed RFID chips by 2005 http://www.eetimes.com/story/OEG20011219S0016 Euro bank notes to embed RFID chips by 2005 By Junko Yoshida EE Times (12/19/01, 3:03 p.m. EST) Set- top box SoC ready for high-speed demands ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 'Future proofing' set-top box design ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MIPS, software make for smooth DVD decoding ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Meeting MPEG-4 advanced audio coding requirements ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Altering algorithms to create '3D' sound ------------------------------------------------------------------------ SAN MATEO, Calif. - The European Central Bank is working with technology partners on a hush-hush project to embed radio frequency identification tags into the very fibers of euro bank notes by 2005, EE Times has learned. Intended to foil counterfeiters, the project is developing as Europe prepares for a massive changeover to the euro, and would create an instant mass market for RFID chips, which have long sought profitable application. The banking community and chip suppliers say the integration of an RFID antenna and chip on a bank note is technically possible, but no bank notes in the world today employ such a technology. Critics say it's unclear if the technology can be implemented at a cost that can justify the effort, and question whether it is robust enough to survive the rough-and-tumble life span of paper money. A spokesman for the European Central Bank (ECB) in Frankfurt, Germany confirmed the existence of a project, but was careful not to comment on its technologies. At least two European semiconductor makers contacted by EE Times, Philips Semiconductors and Infineon Technologies, acknowledged their awareness of the ECB project but said they are under strict nondisclosure agreements. The euro will become "the most common currency in the world" at midnight on Jan. 1, when 12 nations embrace it, according to Ingo Susemihl, vice president and general manager of RFID group at Infineon. The ECB and criminal investigators in Europe are already on high alert, worried not only about counterfeiting of a currency most people haven't seen, but also of a possible increase in money laundering, given the euro's broad cross-border reach. The ECB said 14.5 billion bank notes are being produced, 10 billion of which will go into circulation at once in January, with 4.5 billion being held in reserve to accommodate potential leaps in demand. Thwarting underworld popularity Although euro bank notes already include such security features as holograms, foil stripes, special threads, microprinting, special inks and watermarks, the ECB believes it must add further protection to keep the euro from becoming the currency of choice in the criminal underworld, where the U.S. dollar is now the world's most counterfeited currency. The ECB spokesman said his organization has contacted various central banks worldwide - not just in Europe - to discuss added security measures for the currency. In theory, an RFID tag's ability to read and write information to a bank note could make it very difficult, for example, for kidnappers to ask for "unmarked" bills. Further, a tag would give governments and law enforcement agencies a means to literally "follow the money" in illegal transactions. "The RFID allows money to carry its own history," by recording information about where it has been, said Paul Saffo, director of Institute for the Future (Menlo Park, Calif.). The embedding of an RFID tag on a bank note is "a fundamental departure" from the conventional security measures applied to currency, Saffo said. "Most [currency] security today is based on a false premise that people would look at the money to see if it is counterfeit," he said. But "nobody does that. The RFID chip is an important advance because it no longer depends on humans" to spot funny money. RFID basics The basic technology building blocks for RFID on bank notes are similar to those required for today's smart labels or contactless cards. They require a contactless data link that can automatically collect information about a product, place, time or transaction. Smart labels produced by companies such as Philips Semiconductors, Infineon, STMicroelectronics and Texas Instruments are already used in such applications as smart airline luggage tags, library books and for supply chain management of various products. "Two minimum elements you need for RFID are a chip and an antenna," according to Gordon Kenneth Andrew Oswald, associate director at Arthur D. Little Inc., a technology consulting firm based in Cambridge, Mass. When a bank note passes through reader equipment, the antenna on the note collects energy and converts it to electric energy to activates the chip, he said. The antenna then "provides a communication path between a chip [on the bank note] and the rest of the world," said Tres Wiley, emerging markets strategy manager for RFID Systems at TI. For its part, the chip "is a dedicated processor to handle protocols, to carry out data encoding to send and receive data and address memory" embedded on the chip. Although the industry is "well down the road with the smart label technology," Wiley said he was "a bit surprised to learn that someone goes to that extent - to embed RFID into bank notes - to combat counterfeit money." A number of challenges must be overcome before RFID tags can be embedded on bills, said Kevin Ashton, executive director of the Auto ID Center at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. "The most obvious one is the price," he said. Today's RFID tags cost between 20 cents to $1.00, and "that's not economic enough for most bills," Ashton said. "We've absolutely got to get the cost way down." The goal of the Auto ID Center is to find an application that requires billions of RFID chips to bring their cost as low as 5 cents, he added. While most chip companies with RFID expertise are keeping their plans for money applications close to their chest, Hitachi Ltd. announced plans last July for a chip designed for paper money that would pack RF circuitry and ROM in a 0.4-mm square circuit measuring 60 microns thick. Although the chip features no rewritable capability, Ryo Imura, chief executive of Hitachi's Mew Solutions venture, said at the time of announcement, "We'll consider them for the next generation [of] products." Hitachi's chip stores encrypted ID information in ROM during the manufacturing process, presumably to replace the serial number of each bank note. Even without writable memory, Hitachi's chip is said to be fairly costly. Hitachi declined to be interviewed for this article. While the size of the rewritable memory embedded on an RFID chip will determine the kinds of information it can store, it also affects the chip's cost. Affordable with bigger bills It is unclear whether the ECB will incorporate RFID chips into all euro bank notes or just on the larger bills. The EUR 200 and EUR 500 bank notes in particular - equivalent to roughly $200 and $500 in value - are expected to be popular in the "informal" economy. Embedding a 30 cents chip into a EUR 500 bill would make more sense than putting it into a European buck, several industry sources said. Manufacturing processes are also considered a major hurdle to embedding a low-cost antenna and chip onto bank notes. "The chip is already so small," MIT's Ashton said. "To connect the two ends of a coil - an antenna - at precisely the right place on a chip could present a major problem." A printing process is an option, Ashton said, but "you need a breakthrough in the high-volume manufacturing process." Such a technology does not exist today, he said. Size and thickness are key attributes of an RFID chip for paper currency, said Karsten Ottenberg, senior vice president and general manager of business unit identification at Philips Semiconductors. "For putting chips into documents, they need to be very small - less than a square millimeter - and thin such that they are not cracking under mechanical stress of the document. Thinning down to 50 micron and below is a key challenge." That would require advanced mechanical and chemical techniques, he said. Bank notes present "an interesting future application for us," said Tom Pounds, vice president of RFID projects at Alien Technology, which holds the rights to a fabrication process that suspends tiny semiconductor devices in a liquid that's deposited over a substrate containing holes of corresponding shape. The devices settle on the substrate and self-align. Rather than working on the interconnection to an RF antenna one chip at a time, "we can do a massively parallel interconnection," Pounds said. Bank notes are not Alien's primary focus at present, he said. -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' --------------------------------------------------------------------- The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe cryptography" to majordomo(a)wasabisystems.com

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Explosive smuggling
by Nomen Nescio 28 Dec '01

28 Dec '01

At 04:46 PM 12/27/01 -0800, Tim May wrote: >Easy to imagine safer activators. A magnet arrangment, where an external >magnet pulls something. A dual activator system, where two switches must >be closed simultaneously, ampoules to be broken or pierced under the >skin, and so on. Yeah but then you have to explain that you have an implant or somesuch when you trigger the magnetometer. This 'dual activator system' ---the equivalent of a mechanical pin you must pull or push to arm the primary trigger--- is the solution to the mechanical trigger problem. >A person willing to martyr himself is almost assured of being able to >take down a plane. If all you want to do is drop it, a perfume bottle with some volitile nerve agent will work ---do pilots have separate air? Amusingly, a plane flew over rural NorCal, pilotless, after it escaped while being worked on. Presumably it crashed somewhere in the hills. No talk of F15s because the un-pilot called the FAA. And, a small plane (piloted by arabic-surnamed but nonhostile people, because Allah has a twisted sense of humor) crashed a mile from San Onofre ---communities around which may be offered KI, its also reported. Curiouser and curiouser. ----- Imagine if Jim "butyric acid" Bell had been a mujahadeen... dimethyl mercury, anyone?

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Fear and Trembling.
by mattd 28 Dec '01

28 Dec '01

>>At 09:53 PM 12/27/01 -0800, John Young wrote: >Targets for centers of these exports are not hard to >identify, After the WTC, the only truly theatrically worth it encore I can think of is a stinger at the space shuttle. This would not trepan the serpent but would kick the angst up a notch. Then again, there's always Utah...<< Talk about a target rich environment! They tip their hand by pulling the juiciest targets off the web.(To late!) Nuclear targets available on Blacknet,freenet and all the wildnets. The way to retreat to win is cut the shebang down the middle or break it into 5 regions ala TM.Wisdom of Insecurity.Decentralised minarchist govt as described in AP essay.and...http://world.std.com/~mhuben/cypher.html Assassination Politics. "Armoring" the shell with Vartherland Defense and letting paranoid police/stormtroopers run riot is bringing on chaos and catastrophic collapse. Lets all stop kidding ourselves.The last empires going down and the best things to give it a nudge.Start mapping the busiest nodes of US Imperialist power.Cheney and Armitage,creatures like that,that are heavily networked.In culture you could wack out the scientologists,the fallwels and limbaughs,all those Haven fucken' Hamiltons.Dont be shy about their secondaries either.They cant operate without support.List the pricks,start with a few dead ones like JEHoover and so on then get set to start crossing off the new names.All federal employees got fair warning.They are legitimate targets. A nuremburg website for all the latter day goebbal's,speer's,goering's,hess's,canaris's,Krupp's,liefenstahl's,eichmann's,etc.All crap corporate media heads.Yeah! CRyptome can do it.With all the mirrors now,your *safe.*There's no way in hell this arbusto e neumann presidents going to last out his term.Its true its not just the state,we all seem to agree,here on the evils of the state but it IS time the other authoritarian hierarchies got equal time.Time to die.We're all on a runaway train so its time for Rankin to make his move. Y'Hear me Rankin! COME ON DOWN! Mannie.

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This will guarantee >>> >>>that the e-mail they send out with your name and address on >>> >>>it, will be prompt because they can not advertise until they >>> >>>receive the report. >>> >>> >>> >>>================AVAILABLE REPORTS ================= >>> >>> >>> >>>ORDER EACH REPORT BY ITS NUMBER & NAME ONLY. Notes: Always >>> >>>send $5 cash (U.S. CURRENCY) for each Report. Checks NOT >>> >>>accepted. Make sure the cash is concealed by wrapping it in >>> >>>at least 2 sheets of paper or aluminum foil. On one of those >>> >>>sheets of paper, Write the NUMBER & the NAME of the Report >>> >>>you are ordering, YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS and your name and >>> >>>postal address. >>> >>> >>> >>>PLACE YOUR ORDER FOR THESE REPORTS NOW: >>> >>> >>> >>>=================================================== >>> >>> >>> >>>REPORT #1: The Insider's Guide to Advertising for Free on >>> >>>the Net >>> >>> >>> >>>Order Report #1 from: >>> >>> >>> >>> A.R. Caldwell >>> >>> >>> >>> 111 Anderson Drive >>> >>> >>> >>> Mary Esther,Fl.32569-1808 U.S.A. >>> >>>__________________________________________________________ >>> >>> >>> >>>REPORT #2: The Insider's Guide to Sending Bulk e-mail on the >>> >>>Net >>> >>> >>> >>>Order Report #2 from: >>> >>> >>> >>> D.J. Webb >>> >>> >>> >>> 1673 Richmond St. Suite #358 >>> >>> >>> >>> London, Ontario, Canada NG6 2N3 >>> >>>__________________________________________________________ >>> >>> >>> >>>REPORT #3: Secret to Multilevel marketing on the Net >>> >>> >>> >>>Order Report #3 from: >>> >>> >>> >>> H. Rowland >>> >>> >>> >>> 43 New Dominion Way Front >>> >>> >>> >>> Royal, Va 22630 U.S.A. >>> >>>_________________________________________________________ >>> >>> >>> >>>REPORT #4: How to become a millionaire utilizing MLM & the >>> >>>Net >>> >>> >>> >>>Order Report #4 from: >>> >>> >>> >>> J. Drees >>> >>> >>> >>> 1288 Broad Street >>> >>> >>> >>> Bloomfield, NJ 07003 U.S.A. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________________ >>> >>> >>> >>>REPORT #5: How to send out 0ne Million emails for free >>> >>> >>> >>>Order Report #5 From: >>> >>> >>> >>> Vanilla >>> >>> >>> >>> 727 Corona Ct. >>> >>> >>> >>> Paso Robles, Ca. 93446 U.S.A. >>> >>>=================================================== >>> >>> >>> >>>$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ YOUR SUCCESS GUIDELINES $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ >>> >>> >>> >>>Follow these guidelines to guarantee your success: >>> >>> >>> >>>=== If you do not receive at least 10 orders for Report #1 >>> >>>within 2 weeks, continue sending e-mails until you do. === >>> >>>After you have received 10 orders, 2 to 3 weeks after that >>> >>>you should receive 100 orders or more for REPORT #2. If you >>> >>>did not, continue advertising or sending e-mails until you >>> >>>do. >>> >>> >>> >>>=== Once you have received 100 or more orders for Report #2, >>> >>>YOU CAN RELAX, because the system is already working for >>> >>>you, and the cash will continue to roll in! THIS IS >>> >>>IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER: Every time your name is moved down on >>> >>>the list, you are placed in front of a Different report. >>> >>> >>> >>>You can KEEP TRACK of your PROGRESS by watching which report >>> >>>people are ordering from you. IF YOU WANT TO GENERATE MORE >>> >>>INCOME SEND ANOTHER BATCH OF E-MAILS AND START THE WHOLE >>> >>>PROCESS AGAIN. There is NO LIMIT to the income you can >>> >>>generate from this business!!! >>> >>> >>> >>>=================================================== >>> >>> >>> >>>FOLLOWING IS A NOTE FROM THE ORIGINATOR OF THIS PROGRAM: You >>> >>>have just received information that can give you financial >>> >>>freedom for the rest of your life, with NO RISK and JUST A >>> >>>LITTLE BIT OF EFFORT. You can make more money in the next >>> >>>few weeks and months than you have ever imagined. Follow the >>> >>>program EXACTLY AS INSTRUCTED. Do Not change it in any way. >>> >>>It works exceedingly well as it is now. >>> >>> >>> >>>Remember to e-mail a copy of this exciting report after you >>> >>>have put your name and address in Report#1 and moved others >>> >>>to #2 thru #5 as instructed above. One of the people you >>> >>>send this to may send out 100,000 or more e-mails and your >>> >>>name will be on every one of them. Remember though, the >>> >>>more YOU send out the more potential customers you will >>> >>>reach. So my friend, I have given you the ideas, >>> >>>information, materials and opportunity to become financially >>> >>>independent. IT IS UP TO YOU NOW! >>> >>> >>> >>>=================== MORE TESTIMONIALS============= >>> >>> >>> >>>"My name is Mitchell. My wife, Jody and I live in Chicago. I >>> >>>am an accountant with a major U.S. Corporation and I make >>> >>>pretty good money. When I received this program I grumbled >>> >>>to Jody about receiving "junk mail". I made fun of the whole >>> >>>thing, spouting my knowledge of the population and >>> >>>percentages involved. I "knew" it wouldn't work. Jody >>> >>>totally ignored my supposed intelligence and few days later >>> >>>she jumped in with both feet. I made merciless fun of her, >>> >>>and was ready to lay the old "I told you so" on her when the >>> >>>thing didn't work. Well, the laugh was on me! Within 3 weeks >>> >>>she had received 50 responses. Within the next 45 days she >>> >>>had received total $ 147,200.00....all cash! I was shocked. >>> >>>I have joined Jody in her "hobby". >>> >>> >>> >>>Mitchell Wolf M.D., Chicago, Illinois >>> >>> >>> >>>=================================================== >>> >>> >>> >>>"Not being the gambling type, it took me several weeks to >>> >>>make up my mind to participate in this plan. But >>> >>>conservative that I am, I decided that the initial >>> >>>investment was so little that there was just no way that I >>> >>>wouldn't get enough orders to at least get my money back". >>> >>>"I was surprised when I found my medium size post office box >>> >>>crammed with orders. I made $319,210.00 in the first 12 >>> >>>weeks. The nice thing about this deal is that it does not >>> >>>matter where people live. There simply isn't a better >>> >>>investment with a faster return and so big". >>> >>> >>> >>>Dan Sondstrom, Alberta, Canada >>> >>> >>> >>>=================================================== >>> >>> >>> >>>"I had received this program before. I deleted it, but later >>> >>>I wondered if I should have given it a try. Of course, I had >>> >>>no idea who to contact to get another copy, so I had to wait >>> >>>until I was e-mailed again by someone else......11 months >>> >>>passed then it luckily came again...... I did not delete >>> >>>this one! I made more than $490,000 on my first try and all >>> >>>the money came within 22 weeks". >>> >>> >>> >>>Susan De Suza, New York, N.Y >>> >>> >>> >>>=================================================== >>> >>> >>> >>>"It really is a great opportunity to make relatively easy >>> >>>money with little cost to you. I followed the simple >>> >>>instructions carefully and within 10 days the money started >>> >>>to come in. My first month I made $20, 560.00 and by the >>> >>>end of third month my total cash count was $362,840.00. Life >>> >>>is beautiful, Thanx to internet". >>> >>> >>> >>>Fred Dellaca, Westport, New Zealand >>> >>> >>> >>>=================================================== >>> >>> >>> >>>ORDER YOUR REPORTS TODAY AND GET STARTED ON YOUR ROAD TO >>> >>>FINANCIAL FREEDOM! >>> >>> >>> >>>=================================================== >>> >>> >>> >>>If you have any questions of the legality of this program, >>> >>>contact the Office of Associate Director for Marketing >>> >>>Practices, Federal Trade Commission, Bureau of Consumer >>> >>>Protection, Washington,D.C. >>> >>> >>> >>>=================================================== >>> >>> >>> >>>THIS IS A ONE-TIME MAILING, THEREFORE NO REQUEST FOR REMOVAL >>> >>>IS REQUIRED. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >

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