November 2001 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Sedition
by mmotyka＠lsil.com 12 Nov '01

12 Nov '01

Faustine <faustine(a)lokmail.net> wrote : >Tim wrote: > >>Several of us were in the Sierras this past weekend for a training >>session on weapons use, explosives, terrorism measures, and methods for >>monkey wrenching the U.S. government so as to paralyze its police state >>moves. > >>For security reasons, the location was not publicized. > > >So why are you publicizing it after the fact? Is it really worth the risk >you're taking by mentioning it just to respond to a taunt by some ignorant >smugster behind a remailer? If questioning your commitment is all it takes >to push your buttons, I'd say that's less than optimal. > >I'm sure anyone who bears ill-will to the group is finding this whole thread >quite instructive--undoubtedly the point of the original post in the first >place. Good show. How sickening to think that now you have to worry >about getting anti-paramilitary training statutes dumped on you (on top of >anything else) just because a few people couldn't resist showing up a stupid >troll. > >Even worse,in true "have you stopped beating your wife" fashion, it makes it >appear that everyone who posts here and is passionate about encryption is doing >something rightfully covered by the sedtion laws, which couldn't be further >from the truth. I resent this profoundly, but I'll talk about what and why I do >what I do (or don't do) on my own time, not as a response to someone baiting >me. > >No need to be on such a hair trigger: the archives speak for themselves. >For you to keep tossing out all this sucker-bait-for-feds in the name of >furthering your one-man strategic deterrence campaign is a bit excessive. >Once you've established your credibility there's no real reason to keep >raising the stakes. Especially not in response to someone blowing virtual >spitwads at you from behind a remailer. > >Here's hoping your temper doesn't get the better of you. > >~Faustine. > DNS has been giving me grief into the wee hours so I figure I'm pretty slow myself but I'm thinking you just could be a mite clueless. *When asked by parents why you're taking so long in the bathroom : A: Oh, I'm just shooting up so I can put up with you guys at the dinner table. *When asked by the priest how you spent your weekend : A: Oh we had an orgy and sacrificed a goat to Satan at midnight on Saturday. The blood was really tasty. Then we stalked hot teen virgins at the church picnic. *When asked by the drug police how you spent your weekend : A: Oh, we moved 100 lbs of crack from our labs to NYC and wasted a prosecutor who was giving us a little grief in LA. *When asked (observed speaking) by the counterterrorism official how you spent your weekend : >Tim wrote: > >>Several of us were in the Sierras this past weekend for a training >>session on weapons use, explosives, terrorism measures, and methods for >>monkey wrenching the U.S. government so as to paralyze its police state >>moves. When asked by a member of the Comittee to Stamp Out Violence in the Media what your favorite movie is you launch into detailed descriptions of Pulp Fiction and praise each scene lavishly and then challenge her to a game of DOOM. When asked about my opinion for what needed at the library in my town ( since I'm not responsible for doing anything about it but know a few folks who are ) I say there should be more hardcopy porno and a better IN connection. Then I don't waste my time answering questions that will never be implemented anyway. Is that enough? So if false it is art and even if it is true, so what? Studying tactics & methods is not planning some sort of an attack.

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re: Sedition
by keyser-soze＠hushmail.com 12 Nov '01

12 Nov '01

At 07:41 PM 11/11/2001 +0100, Anonymous wrote: > Looks like the announcement of the new use of sedition laws sure put a damper on the cypherpunks list, eh? No matter how bad the civil liberties crackdown in a democracy eventually citizens and their servants tire of the costs and inconvenience. Perhaps some are have decided to lay low and wait for the chance to act rather than talk.

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Teasing Receivers
by mmotyka＠lsil.com 12 Nov '01

12 Nov '01

Re: mapping in the sierras and places west "Major Variola (ret)" <mv(a)cdc.gov> wrote : > >At 12:36 PM 11/12/01 -0600, Harmon Seaver wrote: >> Well, very low frequency could be used quite easily by almost >anyone, in >>fact, the simplest, cheapest, most portable transmitters would use VLF >and >>morse code. It's something any 10 year old kid could rig, and you get >>excellent propagation all over the world. Hams use VLF around campfires >just >>for kicks. >>And if you used it in burst mode with a pre-recorded tape or digital >input of >>an encrypted message sent in morse -- who knows? > >It has long been a cypherpunkly gedanken performance art project >to build and deploy solar-powered bursting longwave transmitters >driven by quality noise sources in the american deserts (or elsewhere). >Extra points if you align them towards interesting landmarks. > >Survival Research Labs will help us only if the Noise Fireflies attract >bombing runs. Which they might. > Doesn't sound very difficult or expensive to make. Even easier would be Near IR emitters teasing overflights with sedition and libelous insults. Should fit in a small package. Could probably operate for a long time without attention. Any idea what sort of power levels would be needed to assure visibility? Lots of desolate hills around. Might be fun to see if they're even found...

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Re: mapping in the sierras and places west
by Major Variola (ret) 12 Nov '01

12 Nov '01

At 12:36 PM 11/12/01 -0600, Harmon Seaver wrote: > Well, very low frequency could be used quite easily by almost anyone, in >fact, the simplest, cheapest, most portable transmitters would use VLF and >morse code. It's something any 10 year old kid could rig, and you get >excellent propagation all over the world. Hams use VLF around campfires just >for kicks. >And if you used it in burst mode with a pre-recorded tape or digital input of >an encrypted message sent in morse -- who knows? It has long been a cypherpunkly gedanken performance art project to build and deploy solar-powered bursting longwave transmitters driven by quality noise sources in the american deserts (or elsewhere). Extra points if you align them towards interesting landmarks. Survival Research Labs will help us only if the Noise Fireflies attract bombing runs. Which they might. -------- 'What interests me is that it recorded 18 hours of static..' -_Contact_

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