November 2001 - cypherpunks-legacy

Pricing spare resources and options?
by dmolnar 19 Nov '01

19 Nov '01

Hey, The recent comments on Mojo Nation prompted me to look at their site again. I don't see much guidance on how to set prices for network services. There's a mention someplace that business customers will build pricing schemes on top of Mojo Nation, but not much indication of what these schemes might be. So what is the "right" way to price resources? (Preferably beyond the obvious "supply and demand.") Fleet announced at Hettinga's DCSB that they were developing some kind of spare resource market. I couldn't make it. Does anyone know whether they addressed this point? A related question - I ran into a friend of mine who had just finished an internship in options trading. He suggested it might be worth looking at options on spare disk space or other resources, as a means of figuring out how to make Mojo-type systems eventually profitable in the real world. Now I have a copy of Natenberg's _Option Volatility and Pricing_ to look at... -David

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Re: The Crypto Winter
by georgemw＠speakeasy.net 19 Nov '01

19 Nov '01

On 18 Nov 2001, at 20:37, CDR Anonymizer wrote: > >Anonymous: > >> but why did governments engage in the vigorous and frequent > >> application of bayonets and batons to render their money > >> independent of precious metals? > > > >Because they could. > > This goes beyond gratuitous demonstration of power and ability, > there is an economic reason behind it all. > What is / their / economic reason? > > They wanted to be able to pay off their debts with devalued money. George

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I'm back.
by R. A. Hettinga 19 Nov '01

19 Nov '01

I've been looking at the archives every once in a while for the last few months. The archives have their feet in the sky, the last few days, so I decided to lurk for real. LNE's nice and clean, so far. Cheers, RAH -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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SafeWeb is history?
by Roy M. Silvernail 19 Nov '01

19 Nov '01

Seen on /., confirmed on www.safeweb.com. SafeWeb, blaming the bankruptcy of its co-lo provider, has suspended its free web proxy. It's claimed: "we may relaunch the service on a subscription basis." Another one bites the dust... -- Roy M. Silvernail Proprietor, scytale.com roy(a)scytale.com

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Who Authorized This?
by Steve Schear 19 Nov '01

19 Nov '01

Who Authorized This? Andrew Sullivan, Forbes ASAP, 12.03.01 Why does the United States elicit such extreme hatred in some parts of the world? What America is based on is not the achievement of some goal, the capture of some trophy, or the triumph of success. It's about the process of seeking something. It's about incompletion, dissatisfaction, striving, imperfection. In the late 18th century, this was a statement in itself. In the Europe of the preceding centuries, armies had gone to war, human beings had been burned at stakes, monarchs had been dethroned, and countries torn apart because imperfection wasn't enough. From the Inquisition to the Reformation, religious fanatics had demanded that the state enforce holiness, truth, and virtue. Those who resisted were exterminated. Moreover, the power and status of rulers derived from their own perfection. Kings and queens commanded artists to portray them as demi-gods. Dissenters were not merely troublemakers; they were direct threats to the perfect order of the modern state. This was a political order in which everything had to be perfectly arranged, even down to the internal thoughts of individual consciences. http://www.forbes.com/asap/2001/1203/014.html

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RE: HOWTO Build a Nuclear Device
by Trei, Peter 19 Nov '01

19 Nov '01

> baptista@pccf.net[SMTP:baptista@pccf.net] wrote > > On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, F. Marc de Piolenc wrote: > > > detonation. You can actually hold a subcritical mass of plutonium in > > your hand for awhile - I'm told it feels warm. Can't say I've tried it > > myself. > > hold on mr. expert. > you hold a sub critical mass in your hand and in a few days you end up > shitting out your guts, lose your hair and die. > so i assume the person who had the opportunity to hold such a critical > mass is now dead. where are you getting your info on what it feels > like? curious george here. > The dot.GOD Registry, Limited > http://www.dot-god.com/ > Sigh, the truth is out there; you just need to look it up. Pu-239 (the major isotope of weapons grade plutonium) has a half life of over 24,000 years, and is an alpha emitter. Alphas are very, very feeble, and won't get past the dead outer layer of your skin. Pu-241 (a minor contaminant) is a bigger problem since it has a half life of only 14.4. years, and decays to americium 241. Am-241 is a gamma emitter, and a lot more difficult to shield. Newly processed weapons grade PU in solid lumps is relatively harmless stuff. I wouldn't want to hold it in my bare hand, but it's a pretty low risk operation. Any serious mechanical processing will make dust, which is an entirely different scale of risk. I have a vague memory of seeing a photo of a ?3 inch? ball of Pu (isotopic composition unknown) in one of those old Time-Life books. The ball glowed a dull red with it's own internal heat. [Bet this post gets me on some list. Knowing how to use Google is starting to be viewed as suspicious.] Peter Trei

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THIS EMAIL WILL BE SENT ONLY ONCE!
by Luxury villas to rent in Paphos Cyprus 19 Nov '01

19 Nov '01

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[CrackMonkey] overheard on gale (fwd)
by Eugene Leitl 19 Nov '01

19 Nov '01

-- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://www.lrz.de/~ui22204/">leitl</a> ______________________________________________________________ ICBMTO: N48 04'14.8'' E11 36'41.2'' http://www.lrz.de/~ui22204 57F9CFD3: ED90 0433 EB74 E4A9 537F CFF5 86E7 629B 57F9 CFD3 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 09:16:14 -0800 From: Nick Moffitt <nick(a)zork.net> To: Mama's lil' monkeys love shortnin' bread <crackmonkey(a)crackmonkey.org> Subject: [CrackMonkey] overheard on gale To pub.me.ryan(a)ofb.net Fugu/1.1.7 Hrm. So I'm definitely quitting havenco in the next 6 months. I think I will do an ecash company (I will have cash and dividend income from havenco to finance it) I hope "second system effect" doesn't apply to startups. HavenCo is semi-successful and fairly reasonable; I'm afraid if I do a new company I will overengineer a lot of it. -- Ryan Lackey <ryan(a)havenco.com> at 11-14 07:35:07 -- INFORMATION GLADLY GIVEN BUT SAFETY REQUIRES AVOIDING UNNECESSARY CONVERSATION 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.) _______________________________________________ CrackMonkey: Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks http://crackmonkey.org/mailman/listinfo/crackmonkey

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FYI:Development list (was: Re: [mix-l] Verifying DH/DSS Sigs) (fwd)
by Eugene Leitl 19 Nov '01

19 Nov '01

-- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://www.lrz.de/~ui22204/">leitl</a> ______________________________________________________________ ICBMTO: N48 04'14.8'' E11 36'41.2'' http://www.lrz.de/~ui22204 57F9CFD3: ED90 0433 EB74 E4A9 537F CFF5 86E7 629B 57F9 CFD3 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 13:20:37 -0800 (PST) From: Len Sassaman <rabbi(a)quickie.net> Reply-To: mix-l(a)yahoogroups.com To: mix-l(a)yahoogroups.com Subject: Development list (was: Re: [mix-l] Verifying DH/DSS Sigs) Hi folks, For those of you interested in contributing to/knowning more about the development of Mixmaster, there is a list set up on SourceForge for that purpose. http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mixmaster-devel Thanks, Len On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, QuickSilver wrote: > Hi All! > > I'm having a problem verifying these signatures with mix2.9b12(win). > RSA keys verify fine but with DH/DSS I get PGP_SIGBAD returned from my > pgp_decrypt call and the sig buffer is completely empty rather than > containing sig info. PGP, on the other hand, verifies the same > signatures ok. > > Has anyone else run into this. I think I must be missing something. > > Thanks, > > Richard > -- > R.Christman > Benchmark Software > quicksilver(a)skuz.net > http://quicksilver.skuz.net > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Universal Inkjet Refill Kit $29.95 Refill any ink cartridge for less! Includes black and color ink. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Vv.L9D/MkNDAA/ySSFAA/kgFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To Post a message, send it to: mix-l(a)eGroups.com To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: mix-l-unsubscribe(a)eGroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

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19 Nov '01

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