October 2001 - cypherpunks-legacy

RE: Freedoms Curtailed In Defense Of Liberty
by Trei, Peter 11 Oct '01

11 Oct '01

> measl@mfn.org[SMTP:measl@mfn.org] wrote: > > > On Wed, 10 Oct 2001, Steve Furlong wrote: > > > measl(a)mfn.org wrote: > > > > > Yeah, the fascist government of the united states... > > > > > Jesus christ!!! What was that about watering the tree??? > > > > > > The (elided) article from _The Onion_. You might not want to rely on > > Shit! I didn't catch that! I've obviously been working way too many > hours :-( > > > SRF > > -- > Yours, > J.A. Terranson > sysadmin(a)mfn.org > The scary thing, or course, is that this is so close to current government rhetoric that intelligent, observent people have to look twice realize that (for the moment) it's satire. Life is starting to imitate art. Too bad the artist is Orwell. Peter Trei

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Bert-Bin Laden: Declan explains it all
by Xeni Jardin 11 Oct '01

11 Oct '01

-----Original Message----- From: owner-politech(a)politechbot.com [mailto:owner-politech@politechbot.com]On Behalf Of Declan McCullagh Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 8:24 AM To: politech(a)politechbot.com Subject: FC: Muppets at war: Sesame Street's Bert in pro-Bin Laden poster --- The Bangladeshi poster: http://www.tctubantia.nl/CDA/regioportal/1%2c2078%2c1654__772741_%2c00.html http://harvard.pawlo.com/bangladesh.jpg http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/nm/20011009/wl/imdf09102001085522a.html The Bert-Osama clip art's origins: http://www.angelfire.com/de/cheatsbert/p3laden.html http://www.fractalcow.com/bert/bert.htm --- http://www.wired.com/news/conflict/0,2100,47450,00.html Osama Has a New Friend By Declan McCullagh (declan(a)wired.com) 7:18 a.m. Oct. 10, 2001 PDT WASHINGTON -- Evil Bert, meet Evil Osama. Right now, the two appear to be inseparable -- at least on ubiquitous posters carried by pro-Taliban protesters. Devotees of freak-humor websites will recall the infamous "Bert is Evil" page, a shrine to the gourd-like Sesame Street character, which offers compelling photographic evidence of the muppet consorting with Hitler, the KKK and, of course, Jerry Springer. Now, in a move that defies all rules of logic, a doctored photo showing Bert with the world's most-wanted terrorist, Osama bin Laden, seems to have made its way into an anti-American Islamic protest in Bangladesh. Reuters photographs of a rally this week organized by Jaamiat-e-Talabaye Arabia, a radical Islamic organization, show that protesters created a pro-bin Laden sign out of a collage of photos they apparently lifted from Internet sites. But -- is it fate or coincidence? -- the sign featured a Bert muppet sitting on the left side of the man believed to be responsible for the bloodiest terrorist attack in U.S. history. [...] ------------------------------------------------------------------------- POLITECH -- Declan McCullagh's politics and technology mailing list You may redistribute this message freely if you include this notice. Declan McCullagh's photographs are at http://www.mccullagh.org/ To subscribe to Politech: http://www.politechbot.com/info/subscribe.html This message is archived at http://www.politechbot.com/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Talking to the Press Considered Harmful
by drt＠un.bewaff.net 11 Oct '01

11 Oct '01

Declan McCullagh <declan(a)well.com> writes: > On Thu, Oct 11, 2001 at 12:02:35PM +0200, Doobee R. Tzeck wrote: > > supprise me because journalists are information dealers trying to > > get maximum value from minimum effort. Since "trouth" doesn't > > really attribute to value of an information they sell, why should > Obviously you don't understand the media biz. If you really were > doing PR for CCC, they had a pretty poor excuse for a flack. Sure, thats why I and others at koeln.ccc.de started just telling journalists to go away, it works fine for us and saves a lot of time. Andy Mueller Maguhn can play the Media Bizz game with far better success, but success for whom? But I still would be very glad if you as a person probably understanding the media biz can give a hint what is so fundamentally wrong about the assumptions in above paragraph. thanks drt -- teenage mutant ninja hero coders from da c0re - http://c0re.jp/ me - http://koeln.ccc.de/~drt/

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Re: Talking to the Press Considered Harmful
by drt＠un.bewaff.net 11 Oct '01

11 Oct '01

Tim May <tcmay(a)got.net> writes: > On Tuesday, October 9, 2001, at 09:12 PM, Declan McCullagh wrote: > > A large portion was B-roll of me typing dummy entries into > > Microsoft Passport, [...] They used about 7 seconds of what > > I said. > > About right. Four hours of your time for 7 seconds of commentary. > > No wonder the networks are gradually going broke. > > "Typing dummy entries." Typical. Faking the news. > > (I had a sort of similar experience in '95 when the BBC wanted > to interview me. [...]) I share Tims experience regarding the impact of interviews. I was doing some presswork for the chaos computer club - http://www.ccc.de/ and found out that especially TV costs you a hell of time and often thorow away everything substantial or even the whole interview at all. TV wants to "visualize", but crypto or hacking can't be visualized in a TV compatible way. While TV is worest the same is true for 98% of the journalists I have met: They don't try to understand the komplex things you are talking about and if they finnally might understand you they still misquote you. This shouldn't supprise you. This shouldn't supprise me because journalists are information dealers trying to get maximum value from minimum effort. Since "trouth" doesn't really attribute to value of an information they sell, why should they care about? The problem is that they are used to people beeing proud to be interviewed. If you consider an interview as buiseness they are totally set up. "Sure I can explain tis DDOS thing to you, my consulting fee is 1000E per day" makes them really angry. On the other hand talking to journalists may help sometimes to influence actions of the goverment. E.g. the Chaos Computer Club got a lot of press coverage in the 80s which lead to involvment of the hacker community in the law-making process for cybercrime and to an 'hacking is not a crime per se' legistation which i consider a good thing. So between writing code and talking to journalists, what are the other choices? drt

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update.560 (fwd)
by Jim Choate 11 Oct '01

11 Oct '01

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 09:31:32 -0400 (EDT) From: AIP listserver <physnews(a)aip.org> To: physnews-mailing(a)aip.org Subject: update.560 PHYSICS NEWS UPDATE The American Institute of Physics Bulletin of Physics News Number 560 October 9, 2001 by Phillip F. Schewe, Ben Stein, and James Riordon THE 2001 NOBEL PRIZE IN PHYSICS goes to Eric Cornell of [SSZ: text deleted] QUANTUM FINGERPRINTING. Imagine two offices, located halfway around the world, and their headquarters wants to make sure that they each have the identical copy of a database. Imagine further that the databases are huge--10^20 bits each. They could transmit the database to the headquarters, and the headquarters could compare them. But transmitting 10^20 bits--equal to about 11 billion gigabytes would take an enormous amount of time. There is a method in which they only need to send 10^10 bits--a little over a gigabyte--and the headquarters still gets enough information to determine that they have the exact same database. This method is called "classical fingerprinting." The idea is that each office independently, without communicating to each other, generates a distinctive number, called a fingerprint, by performing a calculation involving the entire database and locally generated random numbers, called keys. The result of the calculation-a fingerprint of 10^10 bits--is then sent to the headquarters. Now, a Dutch-Canadian team (Harry Buhrman, CWI/University of Amsterdam, 011-31-20-5924076, buhrman(a)cwi.nl) has suggested a "quantum fingerprinting" scheme which would involve an exponentially smaller transmission of information to do the same job. For the 10^20 bit database, each office would only have to transmit a fingerprint of about 70 "quantum bits" (qubits), which could be, for example, specially prepared photons. Such photons could contain the result of a computation between the database and many different random keys simultaneously, rather than a single random key. The researchers say that one could demonstrate this new fingerprinting technique with quantum computers not much more complex than the ones that exist today. Buhrman estimates that quantum fingerprinting becomes more efficient than classical fingerprinting in a quantum computer with 5 to 10 qubits. (H. Buhrman; R. Cleve; J. Watrous; R. de Wolf, Physical Review Letters, 15 Oct. 2001; full text at www.aip.org/physnews/select)

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Re: Talking to the Press Considered Harmful
by drt＠un.bewaff.net 11 Oct '01

11 Oct '01

Declan McCullagh <declan(a)well.com> writes: > On Tue, Oct 09, 2001 at 07:33:58PM -0700, Tim May wrote: > > Every time I consent to an interview, I regret it. The most recent time > > was earlier this year for a French journalist doing a piece on Freenet, > > Come, now. There are different grades of journalist: Some are reasonably > clueful and write frequently about these topics, and others are dilettantes > told by their editors to "find something new about P2P to write about." If Tim is talking about A. Picard (sp?) from Trasfert, Paris his writngs are quite clueful and he has actually been thinking about Cryptoarnachy. Perhaps the french interview style is different then the US one. drt

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Internet...? Credici!!!
by b2beMarketplace 11 Oct '01

11 Oct '01

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al Qaeda website?
by Lucky Green 11 Oct '01

11 Oct '01

Attempting to obtain information from primary sources, I have been trying to track down a bin Laden or al Qaeda website without any success. Does anybody on this list have a URL? I suspect that Afghanistan may not recognize US and EU blind signature patents and thus would be suitable as a jurisdiction to distribute ecash client software to help bypass the unconstitutional ban on American citizens assisting the courageous warriors of Allah in their just fight. --Lucky

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CDT: congressional action call - before Friday morning, October 12, 2001
by citizenQ 11 Oct '01

11 Oct '01

Dear Activist: Things are moving very fast on Capitol Hill. Legislation to expand government surveillance will be considered by the Senate (and maybe the House) on Thursday, October 11. In the Senate, Sen. Russ Feingold is planning to offer amendments Thursday morning that will address some of the privacy concerns raised by the pending bills, by requiring government surveillance to be more focused and subject to meaningful judicial controls. CDT supports the Feingold amendments. You can make a difference. Call your Senators in Washington right away and let them know that you think civil liberties should be part of the balance as we move forward to protect our country from terrorism. Urge them to support the Feingold privacy amendments BACKGROUND Following the horrendous attacks of September 11, it is clear that US anti-terrorism efforts need to be improved. Unfortunately, there has been little time to develop a response that is effective and does not unnecessarily infringe civil liberties. Legislation moving quickly through Congress involves some fundamental changes in the surveillance laws. Most of the changes are not limited to terrorism cases, but concern all crimes and all intelligence investigations. Among other things, the bills would: * Allow FBI to seize any and all stored records (medical records, educational records, stored e-mail) in intelligence cases without a search warrant. * Allow computer system operators to authorize government surveillance without a court order (the computer trespasser provision). * Authorize roving taps in intelligence cases without clear guidelines, allowing government to monitor pay phones, library computers, cell phones without first determining who is using the device. * Allow secret searches (searches without notice at the time of the search) in all criminal cases. * Extend government surveillance under minimal standards to broad categories of Internet data - all "routing, addressing and signaling information" (the "pen register" provision). For full background the current civil liberties issues with the bill, please see CDT's latest policy post -- http://www.cdt.org/publications/pp_7.10.shtml Also, the New York Times on October 10 explained the current situation in the Senate and Sen Feingold's concerns-- http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/10/national/10RIGH.html WHAT YOU CAN DO--MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD 1. Call your your Senators [www.vote-smart.org can tell you who your sens are (duh)] Tell the person who answers the phone that you hope your Senator will support the Feingold privacy amendment to the terrorism bill, so that it adequately protects civil liberties when giving the government new surveillance powers. Use these words if you feel tongue-tied: Staffer: Hello, Sen. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX office. You: Hello. I'm a constituent calling to urge the Senator to support the Feingold privacy amendments to the anti-terrorism bill. Government needs to fight terrorism, but the bill fails to protect privacy. I'm concerned about the provisions on Internet surveillance and roving wiretaps. I support the Feingold amendments setting clear limits on government surveillance. Staffer: I'll tell the Senator. Thanks, bye! 2. Let CDT know how it went! Go to http://www.cdt.org/action/feedback.cgi?membid=casr and use the feedback form to tell us what happened. Or you can send an email back to me at mclark(a)cdt.org. 3. Lastly, please forward this message to other individuals interested in protecting privacy and free expression on the Internet. They can find information about their Senators at http://www.cdt.org/action/. But they need to act right away. Forward this message until Friday morning, October 12, 2001. PLEASE NOTE: We are asking you to call your Senators in Washington because studies have shown that this is the most effective way to make a difference over a short period of time. By the time the office reads your email or letter it will probably be too late and a call into the district office does not have the same impact when the Senator is in Washington. -- To subscribe to CDT's Activist Network, sign up at: http://www.cdt.org/join/ If you ever wish to remove yourself from the list, unsubscribe at: http://www.cdt.org/action/unsubscribe.shtml If you just want to change your address, you should unsubscribe yourself and then sign up again or contact: mclark(a)cdt.org -- Michael Clark, Grassroots Webmaster mclark(a)cdt.org PGP Key available on keyservers Center for Democracy and Technology 1634 Eye Street NW, Suite 1100 Washington, DC 20006 http://www.cdt.org/ voice: 202-637-9800 fax: 202-637-0968

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