October 2001 - cypherpunks-legacy

RE: Google and the Net
by Steve Schear 11 Oct '01

11 Oct '01

At 09:33 AM 10/10/2001 -0400, Trei, Peter wrote: > > Steve Schear[SMTP:schear@lvcm.com] > > > > > > At 11:40 PM 10/9/2001 +0200, Nomen Nescio wrote: > > > > > > > >It's unfortunate that we have to rely on Google. Imagine an ongoing, > > >distributed project to cache the web. Volunteers could keep tabs on > > >a subset of corporate and personal web pages and cache old versions > > >when changes are made. Rewriting history becomes that much harder. > > >And it's certainly a better use of computers than seti@home. > > > > This is actually an excellent application front end for a Mojo Nation type > > > > system, as the data is redundant and distributed. > > >You get an interesting recursion problem arising - does your 'memory >of the web' site include sites which contain archives for the purpose of >being 'memory of the web'? Shades of Godel.... Since the Mojo space is not included within those of the Web how would this recursion take place? steve

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Larry Ellison pushes national ID registry in WSJ
by Anonymous Coredump 11 Oct '01

11 Oct '01

October 8, 2001 Commentary Digital IDs Can Help Prevent Terrorism By Larry Ellison, the founder and CEO of Oracle Corp. Since the Sept. 11 attacks, our country has been thrust into a debate over how to root out terrorists while also maintaining our civil liberties. One of the suggestions proposed, though not yet fully debated, is that of national identification cards. Many Americans instinctively fear that a national ID card would sacrifice basic freedoms and compromise personal privacy. On the face of it, issuing ID cards does seem a significant step. Trusting government to maintain a database with our names, addresses, places of work, amounts and sources of income, assets, purchases, travel destinations, and more, seems a huge leap of faith. But we should remember that these databases already exist, and that we willingly helped in their creation. For years, companies like American Express and Visa have been issuing cards and building up information on millions of Americans. The databases they maintain are searched and sold on a daily basis. We should remember, too, that the government already tracks things -- lots of things. Federal, state and local agencies issue Social Security cards, driver's licenses, pilot's licenses, passports and visas. They maintain thousands of databases to keep track of everyone from taxpayers and voters to suspected terrorists. And so the question is not whether the government should issue ID cards and maintain databases; they already do. The question is whether the ones we have can be made more effective, especially when it comes to finding criminals. Do we need one national ID card? No. But the IDs that the government issues -- such as Social Security cards -- should use modern credit card technology. Do we need more databases? No, just the opposite. The biggest problem today is that we have too many. The single thing we could do to make life tougher for terrorists would be to ensure that all the information in myriad government databases was integrated into a single national file. Today, every federal intelligence and law enforcement agency and all manner of state and local bodies maintain their own separate databases on suspected criminals. All these separate databases make it difficult for one agency to know about and apprehend someone wanted by another agency. That's why one of the Sept. 11 hijackers made it through U.S. passport control, even though he had an outstanding arrest warrant in Broward County, Fla. The FBI was searching for several other of the terrorists, because CIA intelligence revealed they had ties to Osama bin Laden. Four more were sought by the Immigration and Naturalization Service because they were in the country illegally. Such a national database, though a large undertaking, is possible. My company, for example, has already offered to provide the necessary software for free, and I'm sure other companies would pitch in with hardware and support. It's important these donations be made with no strings attached: The database would be maintained and run by the government alone, with no question of corporations benefiting. The uses of such a database would be significant. Airlines, for example, could cross-check the names of passengers with names on a watch list. If this had been done, many of the Sept. 11 terrorists would have been caught before they boarded their flights. Another challenge is tracking people with multiple or stolen identities. The good news is that a national database combined with biometrics, thumb prints, hand prints, iris scans, or other new technology could detect false identities. Gaining entry to an airport or other secure location would require people to present a photo ID, put their thumb on a fingerprint scanner and tell the guard their Social Security number. This information would be cross-checked with the database. The government could phase in digital ID cards to replace existing Social Security cards and driver's licenses. These new IDs should be based on a uniform standard such as credit card technology, which is harder to counterfeit than existing government IDs, or on smart-card technology, which is better but more expensive. There is no need to compel any American to have a digital ID. Some Americans may choose to apply for a digital ID card to speed the airport security check-in process. Some states might use digital IDs for their next generation of driver's licenses. Companies might want to replace their current hodgepodge of IDs with the new system. In fact, a voluntary system of standardized IDs issued by government agencies and private companies could prove more effective than a mandatory system. We don't need to trade our liberties for our lives. By law, Fourth Amendment protections against unreasonable search and seizure would govern access to the national security database. The "probable cause" standard will still have to be met. Two hundred years ago, Thomas Jefferson warned us that our liberties were at risk unless we exercised "eternal vigilance." Jefferson lived in an age of aristocrats and monarchs. We live with the threat of terrorists getting their hands on weapons with the capacity to destroy entire cities. Only by giving our intelligence and law enforcement agencies better tools can we expect to save life and liberty together.

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Re: [maxinux@bigfoot.com: Re: Numbers Stations]
by Alex Shiels 11 Oct '01

11 Oct '01

> From: maxinux <maxinux(a)bigfoot.com> > To: cypherpunks(a)lne.com > > if they broadcast over the us, they have to follow air guidlines aswell... > neat how things work... > > All countries license the airwaves.. atleast in this area.. Most numbers stations use shortwave broadcast or amateur bands - roughly 1-30 MHz. Licenses are required in the country where the transmitter is located, not elsewhere. Shortwave stations are almost always intended for international broadcasting. Here's the FCC's application form for a shortwave transmitter: http://www.fcc.gov/ib/pnd/neg/hf_web/appinfo.html "Any qualified US citizen, company, or group may apply to the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) for authority to construct and operate a high frequency (HF) (shortwave) international broadcasting station. [...] It should be noted that an international broadcasting station is intended for broadcasting to a foreign country and is not intended for broadcasting solely to the United States." More on numbers stations here, including loggings and presumed locations of some transmitters: http://spynumbers.com/ As an aside, this showed up on the spooks list a week or so back, I don't think it made it to cypherpunks: http://www.miami.com/herald/content/news/local/dade/digdocs/053821.htm (Sep 22 2001) "WASHINGTON -- FBI agents on Friday detained a 44-year-old senior analyst with the Defense Intelligence Agency, a vital part of the U.S. national security establishment, and charged her with providing U.S. national secrets to Cuba. [...] Among the contents, it added, were instructions on how to erase material from the computer, tips for radio reception, and references to ``the numbers that you receive via radio.'' A short-wave radio was also found. The complaint said that the FBI identified text consisting of 150 sets of numerical groups. ``The text begins, `30107 24624,' and continues until 150 such groups are listed. The FBI has determined that the precise same numbers, in the precise same order, were broadcast on February 6, 1999, at AM frequency 7887 kHz, by a woman speaking Spanish, who introduced the broadcast with the words `Atencisn! Atencisn!' '' the complaint said." -- mailto:zem@zip.com.au F289 2BDB 1DA0 F4C4 DC87 EC36 B2E3 4E75 C853 FD93 http://zem.squidly.org/ "I'm invisible, I'm invisible, I'm invisible.."

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google and the net
by mattd 11 Oct '01

11 Oct '01

missing usenet threads inc...(Im trying to do some twisted backups) CIA Afghan War; Directorate of Ops; and, Wen Ho Lee -- soc.culture.pakistan.politics - 22 Jan 2000 by Ralph McGehee - View Thread (1 article) CIA's Afghan War, Ops Directorate; And, Wen Ho Lee -- soc.culture.pakistan.politics - 22 Jan 2000 by Ralph McGehee - View Thread (1 article) CIA's Afghan War; Ops Directorate; and, Wen Ho Lee -- alt.conspiracy - 22 Jan 2000 by Ralph McGehee - View Thread (1 article) CIA's Afghan War, Ops Directorate; and, Wen Ho Lee -- alt.politics.org.cia - 22 Jan 2000 by Ralph McGehee - View Thread (1 article) Drugs and Terrorism many more by ralph inc. some more on 'ghan. Im mainly after the afghan stuff,please? TIA.

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Re: Numbers Stations
by Nomen Nescio 11 Oct '01

11 Oct '01

maninux wrote: > > if they broadcast over the us, they have to follow air guidlines aswell... > neat how things work... > > All countries license the airwaves.. atleast in this area.. > > Max Where, oh where do these fucking idiots come from? This has never even listened to shortwave, yet he's going to babble on about his totally moronic (not to mention totally statist) ideas about how our all powerful FCC can somehow control foreign government broadcasts. It's really frightening how little mental capacity is needed to get on line these days.

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Numbers Stations
by maxinux 11 Oct '01

11 Oct '01

Has anyone thought to contact the FCC about the numbers stations? they dont call out call signs do they? Who are their frequencies registered to? Max

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Re: Freedoms Curtailed In Defense Of Liberty
by Tabla bin Rasa 10 Oct '01

10 Oct '01

At 04:04 PM 10/10/01 -0500, Jim Choate wrote: >Give up democracy to defend democracy... > >http://www.theonion.com/onion3736/freedoms_curtailed.html Jesus Jim, this is good enough to infringe its copyright: WASHINGTON, DCResponding to the threats facing America's free democratic system, White House officials called upon Americans to stop exercising their democratic freedoms Monday. "In this time of national crisis, a time when our most cherished freedoms are threatened, all Americansnot just outspoken talk-show hosts like Bill Mahermust watch what they say," White House press secretary Ari Fleischer told reporters. "Now more than ever, if we want to protect democracy for future generations, it is vital that nobody speak out about the issues of the day." "We must all do our patriotic duty to protect our country's great ideals," Fleischer continued, "and we have to be careful about what opinions we express if we are to defend our Constitution, a sacred document behind which all Americans must stand united as one." Fleischer's sentiments echoed those of many executive-branch officials, who, in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks, have called for broad-based limitations on civil libertiesand urged all patriotic, freedom-loving citizens to support those restrictionsin defense of the American way of life. "We live in a land governed by plurality of opinion in an open electorate, but we are now under siege by adherents of a fundamentalist, totalitarian belief system that tolerates no dissent," Attorney General John Ashcroft said. "Our most basic American values are threatened by an enemy opposed to everything for which our flag stands. That is why I call upon all Americans to submit to wiretaps, e-mail monitoring, and racial profiling. Now is not the time to allow simplistic, romantic notions of 'civil liberties' and 'equal protection under the law' to get in the way of our battle with the enemies of freedom." In the past, Ashcroft said, efforts by federal agencies to restrict personal freedoms were "severely hampered" by such factors as the judicial system, the Bill Of Rights, and "government by the people." Since the attacks, however, some such limitations have been waived, finally giving the CIA, FBI, Pentagon, and White House the greater powers they need to defend freedom. U.S. Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), who advocated permitting the CIA to engage in various illegal activities during a recent Tonight Show With Jay Leno appearance, stressed the importance of not merely submitting to freedom-curtailment policies, but also blindly agreeing with them. "Now is not the time for such divisive, destructive things as dialogue and debate," McCain said. "Now is not the time for, 'My opinion is just as valid as yours,' and 'What are my country's leaders doing and why?' and 'I have a question, Mr. President.' Now is the time for one thing and one thing only: The defense of the American democratic ideal. Any and all who disagree with this directive, or who have different ideas about how it should be accomplished, should learn to shut their mouths." As the U.S. prepares to mobilize forces against Afghanistan, the military is seeking strong limitations on the press. According to Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, such a Constitution-flouting move would not be unprecedented, citing the suspension of habeas corpus in the Civil War and the order to round up 110,000 Japanese-Americans in detention camps after the bombing of Pearl Harbor. "Remember, under the oppressive Taliban regime, people live in constant fear of an oppressive order to which all must submit," Rumsfeld said. "Under their system, it is illegal to practice a different religion or support a different political system. It is against the law for women to work or leave their homes without their faces covered. There is no freedom of speech, press, or assembly, as dissent of any kind is not tolerated. It is even forbidden to smile or laugh in public, and all who fail to unquestioningly obey are punished with reprisals of brutal violence. We must not allow such a regime to threaten our great democracy. We must stand for something better than that." "It is therefore urgent," Rumsfeld continued, "that all Americans be quiet, stop asking questions, accept the orders of authorities, and let us get on with the important work of defending liberty, so that America can continue to be a beacon of freedom to all the world."

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Documented criminal/terrorist uses of cryptography?
by dmolnar 10 Oct '01

10 Oct '01

Hi, Does anyone have pointers to documented instances of terrorists or criminals using stego or crypto? As opposed to the speculation recently seen regarding Osama bin Laden. Thanks much, -David Molnar

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[maxinux@bigfoot.com: Re: Numbers Stations]
by maxinux 10 Oct '01

10 Oct '01

if they broadcast over the us, they have to follow air guidlines aswell... neat how things work... All countries license the airwaves.. atleast in this area.. Max

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10 Oct '01

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