October 2001 - cypherpunks-legacy

Cryptography and the Present Crisis
by Nomen Nescio 29 Oct '01

29 Oct '01

Cypherpunks are forgetting everything they are supposed to know. Does anyone remember why this list was formed? Does the "cypher" in cypherpunk mean anything? Has anyone considered whether there is a role for crypto technology in the face of the current threats to civil rights? These new laws are a perfect opportunity to promote the message of cryptography for privacy. Virtually all of the provisions which have cypherpunks wailing in despair can be easily circumvented by the use of crypto technology. And every trial balloon floated to limit or ban crypto has been shot down instantly, so full of holes that it will never fly. Carnivore will be deployed to snoop on email? Simple, use PGP/GPG. Carnivore used for "trap and trace" address gathering? Simple, use remailers to disguise the patterns of who you are communicating with. Legitimate criticism of U.S. government potentially interpreted as supporting terrorism? Simple, make your points anonymously or pseudonymously and be free from the fear of prosecution. Every one of these policies is an opportunity, not a threat. To the extent that these crackdowns engender concern about privacy violations from a growing segment of the population, this is a chance for cypherpunks to spread their knowledge and their technology. You don't have to be a paranoid any more to be afraid that the government is spying on you. John Ashcroft himself boasts that Big Government will be watching. Cypherpunks should be taking advantage of this opportunity to promote their message of privacy through technology. For the first time since the group was formed, they can make a legitimate case that the threat of government surveillance is increasing. With the Bill of Rights being tossed out the window and the AG openly admitting to bending the rules to achieve his goals, a wide community is going to be receptive to this message. Of course there are presently substantial numbers who are caught up in the collectivist urge and who might view attempts to protect privacy as unpatriotic. But this is a temporary phenomenon, already fading. The flags which flew from every car and building in sight a few weeks ago are disappearing. Yet the Draconian new regulations will not go away. Inevitably there will be a growing segment of the population which sees the government as a fearsome threat. It is time for cypherpunks to go back to their roots. Let us put the cypher back in cypherpunk. There are other places where people can whine about how evil congress is or fantasize about secession from the U.S. Focus on crypto and what role it can play in the current crisis. Believe it or not, no one else is doing that. No one in the world is speaking out to say, here are tools which can circumvent the government's efforts to take away our privacy. If the cypherpunks don't do it, no one will.

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Soothe or alarm: What is "weaponized" anthrax?
by Karsten M. Self 29 Oct '01

29 Oct '01

I posted on this question Oct 21, saying: [Rep Frist's (R-TN) comment] leads one to question the descriptions of anthrax as "weaponized" and "non-weaponized", particularly as there are several dimensions of weaponization. The lesser is spore size, with 5 micron being the preferred form for inducing inhalation anthrax. The greater is antibiotic resistance, and it appears that this is the criterion on which statements of "non-weaponized anthrax" are being made. Truth seems to be that resistance is secondary to spore size given the difficulty of treating advanced cases of inhalation anthrax. My suggestion to the press would be to disaggregate the term "weaponized" to its components: inhalable, and antibiotic resistant. This provides the public with more useful information: the bacterium is or is not a grave infection threat (inhalable), and the bacterium is or is not treatable (resistant). This is actionable information: inhalable, but nonresistant, anthrax means that individuals should be aware of respiratory illness symptoms and submit for early diagnosis and/or treatment. Today's SF Chronicle reports: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2001/10/28/MN188786.DTL… ype=printable When it comes to describing anthrax, it is as if they are speaking different languages. "Weapons-grade material," Gephardt, the House Democratic leader from Missouri, told reporters this week, describing the potency of the anthrax in a letter opened in Daschle's office. "Common variety," Senate Majority Leader Daschle from South Dakota said of the same white powder. Scientists say both are right. The material was weapons grade, in the sense that it was finely milled and aerosolized to make it easier to infiltrate a victim's lungs. At the same time, it was a common variety that was not genetically altered, making it fully treatable with common antibiotics. So which statement is more responsible? [...] "I don't think 'weaponized' has any medical or scientific value," [Ridge] explained late this week. "It seems to have different meanings . . . to different people." The discrepancy in labeling the potency of the poison is a perfect illustration of the challenges confronting authorities as they try to communicate complex, evolving and grim information on live television, often on an hourly basis. The failure to use precise language can have fatal consequences. On Oct. 18, three days after Daschle's letter was opened, Postmaster General John Potter invited the press into a mail facility in southeast Washington, and told the assembled reporters and workers that "there is only a minute chance" that anthrax spores could have escaped from envelopes and harmed postal workers. Today, Potter is on a 60-day dose of antibiotics. So are the reporters and anyone else who attended the news conference, including Washington, D.C., Mayor Anthony Williams and his 80-year-old mother. Two workers at the facility have since died. Authorities knew at the time that the refined spores were highly potent, but based on previous experience in New Jersey and Florida, had no reason to believe they would contaminate the Washington mail house. And they wanted to calm anxious postal workers. "The administration has been forthright in making information known as soon as information is available," said White House spokesman Ari Fleischer. "It is the nature of this type of attack involving anthrax that information develops over time." Nevertheless, there is frustration from those who feel that soft words intended to soothe might instead lull people into a false sense of complacency. "I think we've got to stop parsing words and trying to be anything other than accurate about what this is," Gephardt said of the biological attack on the Capitol. "This is highly sophisticated material. It is small in size and it aerosolizes, and so you've got to be careful in the way it can be handled. "I believe people are smart. If you arm them (people) with accurate information, you have a better chance of preventing successful attacks," Gephardt said. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self <kmself(a)ix.netcom.com> http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Home of the brave http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ Land of the free Free Dmitry! Boycott Adobe! Repeal the DMCA! http://www.freesklyarov.org Geek for Hire http://kmself.home.netcom.com/resume.html [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature]

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Gloat on the Phone - Go to Jail
by Eric Cordian 29 Oct '01

29 Oct '01

Here's an intersting Reuters blurb on arrests made because people failed to grieve properly on their phone lines. It doesn't say how many of these intercepts were with warrants, how many were secret court/national security intercepts, how many were illegal, and how many were routed offshore to be sniffed by our allies. Interesting times. ----- NEW YORK (Reuters) -- Among almost 1,000 people being held in the United States in connection with the hijacked-airliner attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon are people who made congratulatory telephone calls minutes later, The New York Times reported in Sunday editions. Although transcripts of the phone calls have not been made available, the Times reports that officials have said some of the calls were "congratulatory, even gloating." These suspected associates of Saudi-born militant Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda organization are among 977 people held on various charges related to the September 11 attacks, which killed almost 5,000 people in New York, Washington and Pennsylvania. The paper said it had been unable to determine whether those who made the jubilant calls were participants in the hijack plot or merely rejoicing over the attacks. FBI agents intercepted telephone calls, moved in and made arrests, holding the bulk of those arrested on immigration or criminal violations and a smaller group on material witness warrants, the newspaper reported. Their identities and those of most of the people being held have not been released by the Justice Department. The newspaper said officials would not say how many people were detained through the telephone intercepts, nor would they discuss evidence that any of them proved to be members of the group organized by bin Laden, Washington's prime suspect in the attacks. -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division "Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law"

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Now we know why those 1000 are being held in NYC
by measl＠mfn.org 28 Oct '01

28 Oct '01

--------------------- BEGIN CUT AND PASTE -------------------------- http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/10/28/inv.attacks.calls.reut/index.html NEW YORK(Reuters) -- Among almost 1,000 people being held in the United States in connection with the hijacked-airliner attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon are people who made congratulatory telephone calls minutes later, The New York Times reported in Sunday editions. Although transcripts of the phone calls have not been made available, the Times reports that officials have said some of the calls were "congratulatory, even gloating." These suspected associates of Saudi-born militant Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda organization are among 977 people held on various charges related to the September 11 attacks, which killed almost 5,000 people in New York, Washington and Pennsylvania. The paper said it had been unable to determine whether those who made the jubilant calls were participants in the hijack plot or merely rejoicing over the attacks. FBI agents intercepted telephone calls, moved in and made arrests, holding the bulk of those arrested on immigration or criminal violations and a smaller group on material witness warrants, the newspaper reported. Their identities and those of most of the people being held have not been released by the Justice Department. The newspaper said officials would not say how many people were detained through the telephone intercepts, nor would they discuss evidence that any of them proved to be members of the group organized by bin Laden, Washington's prime suspect in the attacks. ------------------------- END CUT AND PASTE ___________________________ The obvious questions that come to mind are (1) How is it that the FBI was listening in on the calls of a thousand people at that time, and, (2) with this story in hand, how many of these poor victims will try to assert their [obviously violated] 1st A rights? -- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin(a)mfn.org If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place... --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Criticize Israel - Get Fired
by Mark Saarelainen 28 Oct '01

28 Oct '01

Actually, Jews are actively using the electromagnetic frequency systems of the U.S. government and intrelligence agencies to attack remotely individuals who criticize them or who may think against them in one way or another. I have written more about this on alt.politics.org.cia. http://groups.google.com/groups?q=hain+jews+Markku Markku J. Saarelainen Autor:Mark (mjsone(a)ureach.com) Asunto:Interesting .. in September, 1999 I wrote down correctly that the head of Jews is in Estee Lauder, although I did not know it ... this "hain" means "finality in Hebrew ... I started getting these understandings, when ... Grupos de noticias:alt.politics.org.cia, soc.culture.russian, soc.culture.nordic, soc.culture.usa View: (This is the only article in this thread) | Original Format Fecha:2001-10-26 17:36:45 PST I had communicated to my own voicemail box at BellSouth "There are too many Jews in the White House." and I had said "Play this music to your grandparents" (I played loudly some 3rd Reich songs .. so I must conclude that Jews attacked me started from the summer of 1999 after I had told to the Kremlin and on the USENET that Boris Berezovsky and other Jews must be fired etc ... Madeleine Albright was involved against me as I correctly noted in my notes earlier (they used the word insertation technique (basically word were placed to the phone conversation between me and my seperated spouse on December 15, 1999 as I have noted ..) They tried to kill me ... really KILL ME ... how interesting ... so the U.S. government with Jews destroyed my family and stole my moneys .. from the ordinary Finn. ------ A Medrash. Hashem said to Moshe "Hain Kirvu Yamecho Lamus". Your time has come. The end of your life is here. The Hebrew word 'Hain', the commentaries explain, implies finality. Hashem told Moshe, "You have been praying, arguing and negotiating with me to extend your life. It is not going to happen. The conversation is closed. The decision is in. "Hain!" Your time has come. You will not live to enter the land of Israel." http://www.ou.org/torah/haber/thoughts/5760/vayelech60.htm Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com

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Re: Criticize Israel - Get Fired
by Mark Saarelainen 28 Oct '01

28 Oct '01

Actually, Jews are actively using the electromagnetic frequency systems of the U.S. government and intrelligence agencies to attack remotely individuals who criticize them or who may think against them in one way or another. I have written more about this on alt.politics.org.cia. http://groups.google.com/groups?q=hain+jews+Markku Markku J. Saarelainen Autor:Mark (mjsone(a)ureach.com) Asunto:Interesting .. in September, 1999 I wrote down correctly that the head of Jews is in Estee Lauder, although I did not know it ... this "hain" means "finality in Hebrew ... I started getting these understandings, when ... Grupos de noticias:alt.politics.org.cia, soc.culture.russian, soc.culture.nordic, soc.culture.usa View: (This is the only article in this thread) | Original Format Fecha:2001-10-26 17:36:45 PST I had communicated to my own voicemail box at BellSouth "There are too many Jews in the White House." and I had said "Play this music to your grandparents" (I played loudly some 3rd Reich songs .. so I must conclude that Jews attacked me started from the summer of 1999 after I had told to the Kremlin and on the USENET that Boris Berezovsky and other Jews must be fired etc ... Madeleine Albright was involved against me as I correctly noted in my notes earlier (they used the word insertation technique (basically word were placed to the phone conversation between me and my seperated spouse on December 15, 1999 as I have noted ..) They tried to kill me ... really KILL ME ... how interesting ... so the U.S. government with Jews destroyed my family and stole my moneys .. from the ordinary Finn. ------ A Medrash. Hashem said to Moshe "Hain Kirvu Yamecho Lamus". Your time has come. The end of your life is here. The Hebrew word 'Hain', the commentaries explain, implies finality. Hashem told Moshe, "You have been praying, arguing and negotiating with me to extend your life. It is not going to happen. The conversation is closed. The decision is in. "Hain!" Your time has come. You will not live to enter the land of Israel." http://www.ou.org/torah/haber/thoughts/5760/vayelech60.htm Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com

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