October 2001 - cypherpunks-legacy

Pravda Propaganda On The NRA, GOA and Militias
by Matthew Gaylor 29 Oct '01

29 Oct '01

<http://english.pravda.ru/usa/2001/10/18/18529.html> Oct, 18 2001 20:11 2001-10-18 BILL WHITE: GUN GROUPS SEE STEADY BLEED INTO MILITIAS; DOMESTIC UNREST STILL GROWING IN UNITED STATES When agents of America's US Marshals surrounded the Indiana Baptist Temple, accusing the church and its parishioners of violating US tax laws by refusing to pay social security taxes on non-clergical employees, they didn't charge in with guns blazing, as they did at Waco. Concern about bad publicity was there, but there was a more serious concern just under the surface - the Southern Indiana Regional Militia, a 250-man "unorganized" citizen's militia unit, had pledged to defend the church - and their threats were taken seriously. "Steps have been taken and we are ready to respond if something does happen," Roger Stalcup, elected commander of the militia, told Indiana's Hoosier Times, "It's my opinion that if you've got people in that church and the U.S. marshals go in, anything can happen" His statements were taken seriously, and his unit, which marches under the slogan "God Bless The Republic -- Death to the New World Order", was listed in a press release by the US Marshals as a major reason they chose to negotiate, rather than raid, the dissident religious group's headquarters. The Southern Indiana Regional Militia had been trained in small-unit tactics by former US military personnel, several of whom hold officer ranks in the citizen's group, and their ability to take on the US government in a fire fight could not only have been difficult for the federal police forces - it could have been disastrous. The Southern Indiana Regional Militia is not an isolated phenomena - it is one of hundreds of similar units which have been growing in size and influence across the country since the announcement by George the First of his plans for a "New World Order" - a New World Order that many Americans believe is planning to destroy the US Constitution and enact dictatorial martial law in the name of the United Nations and the international corporate-socialism. Origins In America's Gun Activist Community There are three issues that motivate America's militia movement - support of gun rights, opposition to taxation, and opposition to the United Nations and the loss of America's sovereignty to global corporate rule - a system the militias see as socialism and anti-globalists label capitalism, and which is really a blend of the worst elements of the two. Among these issues, the most important, the one that seems most immediately threatening, and which has been the prime motivation for the existence of the militia movement, has been the possibility of nation-wide confiscation of firearms by the US Federal government. In America, the people know that the foundation of their liberty is their ability to use firearms to resist government police and military personnel, and it is widely believed that an attempt to confiscate their arms will be the first step in imposing a dictatorship on US citizens. Daily this has seemed more real, and thus there has been a steady bleed of activists out of mainstream groups like the National Rifle Association, and into more confrontational activist groups, like Gun Owners of America and the Tyranny Response Team, and eventually into militias and other armed non-governmental formations. The NRA recently reported in the last election, with voters faced with the threat of anti-gun Al Gore winning the presidency, that its membership surged from under three million to over four million. Some say that number is slowly edging closer to five. In a nation of 280 million people, nearly 1.5% of the population - one person out of sixty six - is a member of the country's largest gun lobby. It is from these membership figures, and from the ability to mobilize large numbers of activists at the local level and bring them out to work polls and fill campaign offices for pro-gun politicians, that the NRA has always derived its power. While there is no doubt of the NRA's monetary power, it's opponents, often funded by billionaires like Andrew J. McKelvey, can usually match or exceed it in that arena. What the NRA has that anti-gun groups don't is the ability to bring out tens of thousands of Americans each election cycle to hand out literature, plant road signs, fold mailings, and engage in the community activism needed to fight anti-gun legislation. But it is in this arena that upstart groups have offered the most competition. Gun Owners of America, headed by Larry Pratt, is a radically pro-gun organization that, in contrast to the NRA, has called for the elimination of all regulations on firearms purchases and ownership, including mandatory background checks, and which has taken a hard line against the United Nations. Pratt is a radical Constitutionalist and Christian who openly mixes his religious beliefs with his politics, and has been accused of sharing the stage with even more extreme leaders - including members of the Aryan Nations and the Ku Klux Klan (though he has not been accused of sharing their views). In 1996, that accusation forced Pratt out as an aid to the Buchanan campaign. In 1998, according to anti-gun researcher Kenneth Stern, Pratt's organization had 100,000 members. Now, similar anti-gun researchers estimate his group has grown to as many as 150,000 - 200,000 in size, and there is no question that the core of his strength is NRA grassroots activists who are leaving the NRA to be involved in more militant forms of activism. Another group that has worked with Pratt's, and which forms an even more confrontational front of its own, is the Tyranny Response Team, a network of pro-gun "minute men", based on the minute men militias of the American Revolution, who go out to anti-gun events and to speeches by anti-gun politicians to confront and challenge the often skewed and distorted presentation of gun politics. The TRT, founded by Jewish gun store owner Bob Glass, has also gone beyond gun activism, holding regular 500-man protests against the Internal Revenue Service and the United Nations conference on small arms. While the TRT declined to give out membership information, it has branches in approximately 33 states, and most branches have 50 to 100 regular active members, meaning the group comprises at least 1500 regular activists nationwide - with an unknown number of less-active "supporting" members. These groups, with their anti-globalist, anti-UN rhetoric and primitive class perspective - what Americans call "populism" - have begun to draw more radical elements of the NRA, such as Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre, to adopt similar rhetoric. In a recent issue of America's First Freedom - the NRA's fast-growing political magazine - LaPierre denounced global corporations, the wealthy, and ruling-class billionaires as being behind the plot to take away America's Second Amendment rights. And while groups like Gun Owner's of America and the Tyranny Response Team are not militias per se, and often engage in very mainstream pandering in some of their rhetoric - the headquarters branch of the TRT in particular is ultra-Zionist, with its members sometimes appearing in public with yellow Stars of David reading "gun owner" in an attempt to link the current conflict between gun owners and the US government with the conflict between Jews and the German Third Reich - they serve as a bridge for gun owners who don't want to engage in the compromising, pro-Republican politics of the NRA, but who also reject the more extreme step of joining armed formations that openly challenge the power of the central government - groups like the Southern Indiana Regional Militia. A Case Study In Radical Growth Recently, in Montgomery County, Maryland, a relatively affluent suburb of Washington, DC, the local government attempted to ban gun shows - large, open exhibitions where guns and traded and sold on tables set up at the local fairgrounds. The result was a series of protests that destroyed the local NRA organization, led to the radicalization of its local head, and which left a definite imprint on local politics. Augustus Alzona, an official in the Maryland Republican Party Central Committee, and the head of the County NRA's lobbying division at the time (NRA-ILA), was incensed at the decision of local officials to ban trading in guns. When he heard that a hearing was planned, he began organizing members to show up and protest the government's decision. But Greg Costa, the NRA's official lobbyist in the State of Maryland, was equally incensed at Alzona's decision to hold protests. Costa views the NRA as a "moderate" and "non-confrontational" organization, and decided to make his legislative priority in the state not a pending local ban on gun shows, but stopping a noise ordinance that would have threatened a business investment he had made in a local shooting range. He ordered Alzona not to hold protests, and when Alzona refused, Costa fired him from his position in the NRA: "I told him I didn't want them to protest and he wouldn't listen. I can't have people doing what I tell them not to do," Costa told a Pravda source. The meeting collapsed in a raucous bout as pro-gun protestors threatened to shoot local Councilmembers if they passed the legislation. Local news media focused on the role of the Tyranny Response Team in the protests, though the truth was that most of the anger came from more radical elements not affiliated with the TRT group. For Alzona, it was a decisive moment. He took on a new role in the TRT Maryland group as its Volunteer Media Coordinator. Regarding the NRA, he told Pravda that Costa was a liar, and that his non-involvement in activism was a motivator for this defection: "I've never spoken to [Costa] regarding the gun show bill and any of it's ramifications - never have, so far. I did try to reach him to discuss last February's hearing a week before the hearing, but, never did." And Alzona isn't the only Maryland activist that sees the NRA and its lobby as ineffective, unreachable, and out of touch. John Latham, a gun activist who joined the NRA in the wake of the anti-gun hysteria that followed the Columbine shootings, decided to move over to the TRT as well. He has now declared he is running for the State Legislature as an Independent in Maryland's 16th legislative district, and told Pravda he left the NRA because he grew tired of the people and their perspective on what gun rights activism means: "A man reaches a certain age he decides he wants to have a club," Latham told Pravda, "I don't consider that real activism that's a club, not a lobby." The Real Activists The Southern Poverty Law Center, a rather shady group of lawyers who make profit by suing organizations they label as "hateful", has been reporting that the number of "militia" groups active in the United States has been declining. Unfortunately, their research is badly skewed, as they count as a "militia" group anyone who opens a post office box and declares themselves a one-man "militia". Other figures, such as those circulated by the ADL, a Jewish organization which is opposed to the private ownership of firearms, estimates that while the number of groups may be shrinking, this is due to a consolidation of activists in a smaller number of larger organizations, and that as many as one million Americans may be sympathetic to, and peripherally involved in, militia activity. This has been evidenced as well by the "radicalization" of mainstream groups that share common views with the militias, but until recently have not shared the militia's extreme image and tactics. Southern groups - groups that represent the values of America's White Southern minority - have been particularly radicalized in recent months with the continuation of a campaign by the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, a pro-black group with origins in the communist movement of the turn of the last century, to destroy public monuments to the Southern Revolution and to the Southern Nation - known as "Dixie" -- which existed from 1861-1865 during the American Civil War. With a heritage based in revolt against the US federal government, and with an often deeply held belief in the independence of the states and the decentralization of government power, views that motivate Southern political thinking and ideology have definitely exerted their influence over militia thinkers. One militia group based in Southern values that recently drew attention was the Militia of Georgia, an armed formation consisting of what researchers claim is 300 men who operate in at least 20 cells throughout the state, which ordered its members to mobilize in the wake of the September 11 bombings, and to be on guard against attempts by the government to use the bombings to create a New World Order. The local commander, Jimmy Wynn, in a message to his membership wrote: "When we cease to intervene in the affairs of every nation on earth, maybe some of these people will leave us alone. The WTC attack should be a WAKE UP CALL. I need each of you to become involved each of you needs to take preparedness seriously (we could go to war and it could reach our shores) The biggest thing we need is commitment: the commitment [to] prepare ourselves. THE TIME FOR ACTION IS NOW!!!" The Potential For Separatism America's Southerners aren't the only regional-ethnic groups seeking independence from the cosmopolitan internationalism of the nations' elite. Rural New Englanders have launched a "blood and soil" separatist movement of their own. Carolyn Chute's Second Maine Militia, a group that has mixed right-wing, left-wing, and green politics, as well as regional ethnic identity and national separatism, into a 500+ man armed formation based in Northern New England and Canada's eastern provinces, re-released a manifesto calling for people in New England and Canada to revolt and create a new nation - the New Atlantic Confederacy - independent of either government, should the impending war on terrorism cause the central government to lose the ability to maintain control in America's more remote rural areas. Her movement is explicitly pro-gun and anti-capitalist, and deals regularly with other "right-wing" militia organization active in the area. As Chute put it in a 2000 interview: "Behind all those urban killings are people created by the Great Progressive Society. These people are not revolting against the Great Progressive Society. They are raw imitations of the Great Progressive Society. We are led to believe that the professional middle class are the winners, the working class are the losers. As I see it, class is about values, dependence and ways of communicating. The working class person values place, interdependence, cooperation, the tribe. Rural working class especially values land. Many of us would kill to keep our land, our home, which for thousands of years was not considered a crazy thing to do. Middle-class professionals are into "success" and they are a dependent people, happily dependent on the consumer system for everything. You call it independence. But if you lost your electricity, your service people, your access to stores, you'd see how independent you are! Working-class people have become dependent on these things, too, but working-class values resent this dependency." And Chute's movement is growing. She recently joked that she could probably maintain 1500 men under arms in the State of Maine alone "if she could keep up with the mail", and in a state of emergency, the number of women seeking protection under arms from ready formations would likely swell those ranks. With groups like Chute's growing in every state of the Union, and the central government growing more and more willing to enact the kind of emergency measures that these groups are willing to fight against, the potential for wide-spread confrontation, and wide-spread revolt, particularly in the context of a break-down of government control caused by massive terrorist attacks, is growing. Domestic Unrest and Anthrax As the US has continued to see its media and government institutions attacked by anthrax-infected letters, a debate has raged over who is responsible. The Zionist-dominated US media has used the attacks as an excuse to implicate Iraq, though that effort seems to be motivated more by political gain than the actual facts. Though Iraq was found by UN weapons inspectors, during the 1990s, to have built two missile warheads with liquid anthrax payloads, the weapons were discounted by US experts as "ineffective", and Iraq is not known to have the ability to create the refined powder form of anthrax being used in the recent attacks. In fact, that ability exists in only two organizations in two countries - the US and Russian governments. The US federal government also appears to believe in the domestic terror theory. Recently, the Center for Disease Control re-released a 1999 report authored by Jessica Stern of the Council of Foreign Relations, stating that most anthrax threats in the United States are linked to "far-right militia" organizations. Certainly, some of the recent scares, including the mailing of over 100 bogus threat letters to Planned Parenthood clinics, match the "far-right militia" pattern. But the possibility that the actual anthrax cases are linked to militia groups has been seized on by social democratic political lobbyists in an attempt to turn the US "war on terrorism" against dissident groups back at home. Australian terrorism "specialist" Clive Williams recently told the Times of India with utmost confidence: "I think the first instances of [the anthrax threats], the ones involving media, were more likely to have been caused by extremist militia in the US who have shown an interest in anthrax in the past and tried to acquire it. The subsequent instances were basically copy-cat episodes by mentally unbalanced people." But no US militia group is known to posses the refined, military form of anthrax being used against the US media and government, and most US militia groups are more concerned with defending themselves against anthrax than spreading it in such a way that their families and communities might be affected. That leaves a third possibility - that the recent anthrax attacks have been committed by members of the US political establishment against other members of that establishment - a theory boosted by the revelation that two of the most recent victims - Tom Brokaw and Tom Daschle - are apparently good friends who's families know each other and often vacation together in the Dakotas. In short, it appears more likely at this point that the recent string of anthrax threats in the US is the result of a deterioration of the internal political situation, than of an outside threat to the integrity of the nation. The question of whether it is related to the growing armed dissent against the central government is open however, as it may simply be a manifestation of political factions using instability as an excuse for assassination. Conclusion: America's Militia Movement Is Not To Be Discounted It is clear that the rural people of American - the mostly white population descended from the original European settlers of the nation - have become alienated from the cosmopolitan blend of urban white liberals and their train of ethnically defined special interests that have gained control of America's cities. One only has to look at a map of who voted for George Bush and who voted for Al Gore to see that a clear divide has occurred between the values of the country's elite and their lackeys, and the real working people of the nation. America's white working class, so long reviled by the intellectuals and the clique that control the government, has been organizing itself into regional-ethnically based citizen militias that are prepared to fight to restore the values of their ancestor's revolution two hundred and twenty five years ago. For the first time in a century, more of America's white population lives in rural areas than in it's cities, and that demographic change is only one indicator of the larger, more widely spread divide. Should the American nation fracture, whether due to a massive terrorist attack, the repressive domestic policies of its government, or a combination of both, it is clear that there are thousands, if not tens of thousands, of Americans who are already organized in paramilitary armed formation for the goal of seizing power and restoring the Constitutional Republic that they feel progressive liberalism has lost them. Osama bin Laden has said that he feels that terrorist attacks can create enough instability in America that forces that already want to change the course of the government will see it weakened enough that an opportunity to act will emerge. With the growing divorce between an imperial government of usurpation and the nation's original Constitutional principles, bin Laden may not be far off. you may discuss the article in our forum Copyright ©1999 by "Pravda.RU". When reproducing our materials in whole or in part, reference to Pravda.RU should be made. ************************************************************************** Subscribe to Freematt's Alerts: Pro-Individual Rights Issues Send a blank message to: freematt(a)coil.com with the words subscribe FA on the subject line. List is private and moderated (7-30 messages per week) Matthew Gaylor, (614) 313-5722 ICQ: 106212065 Archived at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fa/ **************************************************************************

8 8

Re: Singing The War Prayer
by Incognito Innominatus 29 Oct '01

29 Oct '01

choad, Are the palestinians interned here in the US? No. So now hopefully we can move on to relevant subject matter now... after the attempted railroading by someone who got fired from a blow-job. Les keep it real. gatton

2 1

Secret Nuke Takeout Team
by John Young 29 Oct '01

29 Oct '01

Seymour Hersh, "The Risks of Pakistan's Nuclear Arsenal," The New Yorker, October 29, 2001: http://cryptome.org/paki-nukes.htm "In recent weeks an ilite Pentagon undercover unit -- trained to slip into foreign countries and find suspected nuclear weapons, and disarm them if necessary -- has explored plans for an operation inside Pakistan. In 1998, Pakistan successfully tested a nuclear device, heralded as the Islamic world's first atomic bomb. According to United States government estimates, Pakistan now has at least twenty-four warheads, which can be delivered by intermediate-range missiles and a fleet of F-16 aircraft. Some of the government's most experienced South Asia experts have doubts about Musharraf's ability to maintain control over the military and its nuclear arsenal in the event of a coup; there are also fears that a dissident group of fundamentalist officers might try to seize a warhead. The Army and the influential Inter-Services Intelligence, or I.S.I., have long-standing religious and personal ties to many of the leaders of the Taliban, dating back to Afghanistan's war against the Soviet Union in the nineteen-eighties, when Pakistan was the main conduit for American support. The crisis may bring into play the ilite unit, operating under Pentagon control with C.I.A. assistance, whose mission it is to destroy nuclear facilities, past and present government officials told me. 'They're good,' one American said. 'If they screw up, they die. They've had good success in proving the negative' -- that is, in determining that suspected facilities were not nuclear-related. The American team is apparently getting help from Israel's most successful special-operations unit, the storied Sayeret Matkal, also known as Unit 262, a deep-penetration unit that has been involved in assassinations, the theft of foreign signals-intelligence materials, and the theft and destruction of foreign nuclear weaponry. Members of the Israeli unit arrived in the United States a few days after September 11th, an informed source said, and as of last week were training with American special-forces units at undisclosed locations."

1 0

��,�� ,��,��,��,��!
by Aleksandr 29 Oct '01

29 Oct '01

kodirovka KOI-8R õ×ÁÖÁÅÍÙÅ ÇÏÓÐÏÄÁ! þÔÏ ÔÁËÏÅ éÎÆÏÒÍÁÃÉÑ ? éÎÆÏÒÍÁÃÉÑ - ÜÔÏ ×ÌÁÓÔØ, ÂÏÇÁÔÓÔ×Ï, ÕÓÐÅÈ, ÐÒÏÃ×ÅÔÁÎÉÅ. ëÔÏ ×ÌÁÄÅÅÔ ÉÎÆÏÒÍÁÃÉÅÊ, ÔÏÔ ÕÐÒÁ×ÌÑÅÔ. éÎÆÏÒÍÁÃÉÑ, ËÏÔÏÒÕÀ ÐÒÅÄÏÓÔÁ×ÌÑÅÔ ÎÁÛÁ ËÏÍÐÁÎÉÑ ÂÕÄÅÔ ÐÏÌÅÚÎÁ, Á × ÏÔÄÅÌØÎÙÈ ÓÌÕÞÁÑÈ É ÐÒÏÓÔÏ ÎÅÏÂÈÏÄÉÍÁ, ËÁË ÏÒÇÁÎÉÚÁÃÉÑÍ, ÐÒÅÄÐÒÉÑÔÉÑÍ, ÔÁË É ËÁÖÄÏÍÕ ÞÅÌÏ×ÅËÕ É ÅÇÏ ÓÅÍØÅ. 1. ÷ÓÅ ÍÙ ÚÎÁÅÍ ÓÌÏ×Á <ÇÏÒÎÙÊ ×ÏÚÄÕÈ>, ÎÏ ÎÁ×ÅÒÎÏÅ ÎÅ ×ÓÅ ÚÎÁÀÔ, ÞÔÏ ÅÇÏ ÃÅÌÅÂÎÙÅ Ó×ÏÊÓÔ×Á ÚÁ×ÉÓÑÔ ÎÅ ÔÏÌØËÏ ÏÔ ÏÔÓÕÔÓÔ×ÉÑ ×ÒÅÄÎÙÈ ÐÒÉÍÅÓÅÊ, ÎÏ É ÏÔ ÎÁÌÉÞÉÑ ÔÁË ÎÁÚÙ×ÁÅÍÙÈ <ÏÔÒÉÃÁÔÅÌØÎÙÈ ÉÏÎÏ×> ÉÌÉ ÁÜÒÏÉÏÎÏ×(áé) ËÉÓÌÏÒÏÄÁ. äÅÑÔÅÌØÎÏÓÔØ "ÃÉ×ÉÌÉÚÏ×ÁÎÎÏÇÏ ÞÅÌÏ×ÅÞÅÓÔ×Á", ÒÁÚ×ÉÔÉÅ ÐÒÏÉÚ×ÏÄÓÔ× Ó ÐÏÑ×ÌÅÎÉÅÍ ÇÉÇÁÎÔÓËÉÈ "ÓÍÏÇÏ×" ÐÒÉ×ÅÌÉ Ë ÒÅÚËÏÍÕ ÕÍÅÎØÛÅÎÉÀ ËÏÌÉÞÅÓÔ×Á <ÏÔÒÉÃÁÔÅÌØÎÙÈ ÉÏÎÏ×> × ×ÏÚÄÕÈÅ. ÷ÏÚÄÕÈ ÎÁÛÉÈ ÖÉÌÙÈ ÐÏÍÅÝÅÎÉÊ ÂÉÏÌÏÇÉÞÅÓËÉ ÍÅÒÔ×ÙÊ. äÌÑ ÓÒÁ×ÎÅÎÉÑ: × ÇÏÒÁÈ áÂÈÁÚÉÉ (ÇÄÅ ÂÏÌØÛÅ ×ÓÅÇÏ ÄÏÌÇÏÖÉÔÅÌÅÊ) ËÏÌÉÞÅÓÔ×Ï ÏÔÒÉÃÁÔÅÌØÎÙÈ ÁÜÒÏÉÏÎÏ× ÏËÏÌÏ 20 000 × 1 ËÕÂ. ÓÍ ×ÏÚÄÕÈÁ, × ÍÏÒÓËÏÍ ×ÏÚÄÕÈÅ ÉÈ 2 000, × ÚÅÌÅÎÏÍ ÖÅ ÍÁÓÓÉ×Å ÓÒÅÄÎÅÊ ÐÏÌÏÓÙ òÏÓÓÉÉ - 200-1000, × ÐÒÏÉÚ×ÏÄÓÔ×ÅÎÎÙÈ ÐÏÍÅÝÅÎÉÑÈ ×ÓÅÇÏ 10-20, Á ÐÅÒÅÄ ÜËÒÁÎÏÍ ÔÅÌÅ×ÉÚÏÒÁ ÉÌÉ ËÏÍÐØÀÔÅÒÁ - ÁÂÓÏÌÀÔÎÙÊ 0. ðÏ ÓÁÎÉÔÁÒÎÙÍ ÎÏÒÍÁÍ íú óóóò ÕÒÏ×ÅÎØ ËÏÎÃÅÎÔÒÁÃÉÉ ÁÜÒÏÉÏÎÏ×, ÏÔËÌÏÎÅÎÉÅ ÏÔ ËÏÔÏÒÏÇÏ ÓÏÚÄÁÅÔ ÕÇÒÏÚÕ ÚÄÏÒÏ×ØÀ ÞÅÌÏ×ÅËÁ - ÎÁÈÏÄÉÔÓÑ × ÄÉÁÐÁÚÏÎÅ ÏÔ 600 áé ÄÏ 50000 áé × ËÕÂ.ÓÍ.!!!!! ÷ÓÅ ÜÔÏ ÐÒÉ×ÏÄÉÔ Ë ÂÏÌÅÚÎÑÍ, ÏÓÌÁÂÌÅÎÉÀ ÉÍÕÎÉÔÅÔÁ, ÓÏËÒÁÝÅÎÉÀ ÖÉÚÎÉ. ÷ÎÅÛÎÉÅ ÆÁËÔÏÒÙ ÚÁÝÉÔÙ ÕÖÅ ÎÅ ÐÏÍÏÇÁÀÔ. ôÒÅÂÕÅÔÓÑ ×ÍÅÛÁÔÅÌØÓÔ×Ï ÉÓËÕÓÓÔ×ÅÎÎÙÍ ÐÕÔÅÍ. é ÚÄÅÓØ ×ÁÖÎÕÀ ÒÏÌØ ÍÏÇÕÔ ÓÙÇÒÁÔØ ÉÓËÕÓÓÔ×ÅÎÎÙÅ ÇÅÎÅÒÁÔÏÒÙ ÏÔÒÉÃÁÔÅÌØÎÙÈ ÁÜÒÏÉÏÎÏ× - ÁÜÒÏÉÏÎÉÚÁÔÏÒÙ ÉÌÉ ËÁË ÉÈ ÅÝÅ ÎÁÚÙ×ÁÀÔ - "ìÀÓÔÒÙ þÉÖÅ×ÓËÏÇÏ". ïÎÉ ÓÏÚÄÁÀÔ ÄÏÓÔÁÔÏÞÎÕÀ ÄÌÑ ÖÉÚÎÅÎÎÙÈ ÐÒÏÃÅÓÓÏ× ËÏÎÃÅÎÔÒÁÃÉÀ ÏÔÒÉÃÁÔÅÌØÎÙÈ ÁÜÒÏÉÏÎÏ×, ÐÏÒÑÄËÁ 20 000 - 30 000 × 1 ËÕÂ.ÓÍ, ÉÍÉÔÉÒÕÑ ÕÓÌÏ×ÉÑ ÇÏÒÎÏÊ ÍÅÓÔÎÏÓÔÉ ÉÌÉ þÅÒÎÏÍÏÒÓËÏÇÏ ÐÏÂÅÒÅÖØÑ ëÒÙÍÁ ÉÌÉ ëÁ×ËÁÚÁ. ÷ ÜÔÉÈ ÕÓÌÏ×ÉÑÈ ÞÅÌÏ×ÅË ÉÓÐÙÔÙ×ÁÅÔ ËÏÍÆÏÒÔÎÏÅ ÓÏÓÔÏÑÎÉÅ, ÐÒÉÏÂÒÅÔÁÅÔ ÚÄÏÒÏ×ØÅ É ÐÒÏÄÌÑÅÔ ÓÅÂÅ ÖÉÚÎØ. îÁÛÁ ÏÒÇÁÎÉÚÁÃÉÑ ÐÒÏÄÁ£Ô ÄÁÎÎÙÅ ÌÀÓÔÒÙ (ÞÅÔÙÒÅ ÍÏÄÅÌÉ) ÓÏÂÒÁÎÎÙÅ ÎÅÐÏÓÒÅÄÓÔ×ÅÎÎÏ ÐÏ ÞÅÒÔÅÖÁÍ ÓÁÍÏÇÏ á.ì. þÉÖÅ×ÓËÏÇÏ ÏÐÔÏÍ É × ÒÏÚÎÉÃÕ. ï ÚÄÏÒÏ×ØÅ ÎÅÏÂÈÏÄÉÍÏ ÚÁÂÏÔÉÔØÓÑ ÓÅÊÞÁÓ, ÎÅ ÏÔËÌÁÄÙ×ÁÑ ÎÁ ÐÏÔÏÍ. ÷ÅÄØ, ËÁË ÉÚ×ÅÓÔÎÏ ÚÄÏÒÏ×ØÅ ÎÅ ËÕÐÉÛØ. ÷ÓÑ ÉÎÆÏÒÍÁÃÉÑ Ï ÔÏ×ÁÒÁÈ ÎÁÛÅÊ ËÏÍÐÁÎÉÉ ÎÁ ÓÁÊÔÅ: www.viel.f2s.com 2. íÙ ÐÒÅÄÌÁÇÁÅÍ ÎÁÄÅÖÎÕÀ ÚÁÍÅÎÕ ÜÌÅËÔÒÉÞÅÓËÉÍ ÞÁÊÎÉËÁÍ -ÁÐÐÁÒÁÔÙ ÄÌÑ ÎÁÇÒÅ×Á É ÏÈÌÁÖÄÅÎÉÑ ÐÉÔØÅ×ÏÊ ×ÏÄÙ( ËÕÌÅÒÙ), Á ÔÁËÖÅ ÁÐÐÁÒÁÔÙ ÇÁÚ×ÏÄÙ ÄÌÑ <ÇÏÒÑÞÉÈ> ÃÅÈÏ× É ÐÒÅÄÐÒÉÑÔÉÊ(á÷-2,á÷-3,POST-MIX É ÄÒ). ëÕÌÅÒÙ-ÏÞÅÎØ ÕÄÏÂÎÙ ÐÒÉ ÉÓÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÎÉÉ × ÏÆÉÓÁÈ , ÇÄÅ ÏÎÉ ÂÅÓÐÅÒÅÂÏÊÎÏ ÏÂÅÓÐÅÞÉ×ÁÀÔ ÈÏÌÏÄÎÏÊ ×ÏÄÏÊ ÉÌÉ ÇÏÒÑÞÉÍÉ ÎÁÐÉÔËÁÍÉ. ïÎÉ ÓÏ×ÍÅÝÁÀÔ ÆÕÎËÃÉÉ ÞÁÊÎÉËÁ É ÏÈÌÁÄÉÔÅÌÑ, ÐÏÚ×ÏÌÑÀÝÉÅ ÍÇÎÏ×ÅÎÎÏ ×ÏÓÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÔØÓÑ ÇÏÒÑÞÅÊ ÉÌÉ ÈÏÌÏÄÎÏÊ ÐÉÔØÅ×ÏÊ ×ÏÄÏÊ. üÔÏ ÚÎÁÞÉÔÅÌØÎÏ ÏÂÌÅÇÞÁÅÔ ÐÒÉÇÏÔÏ×ÌÅÎÉÅ ÞÁÑ, ËÏÆÅ, ÒÁÓÔ×ÏÒÉÍÙÈ ÓÕÐÏ×, Á ÔÁËÖÅ ÏÈÌÁÖÄÅÎÎÙÈ ÎÁÐÉÔËÏ×. îÁÞÁ× ÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÔØÓÑ ÎÁÛÉÍÉ ÁÐÐÁÒÁÔÁÍÉ × ÂÙÔÕ É ÎÁ ÒÁÂÏÔÅ, ×Ù ÎÅ ×ÅÒÎÅÔÅÓØ Ë ÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÎÉÀ ÞÁÊÎÉËÏÍ É ×ÏÄÏÊ ÉÚ ÐÏÄ ËÒÁÎÁ. îÁÓÔÏÌØÎÙÅ ÍÏÄÅÌÉ ÉÄÅÁÌØÎÏ ÐÏÄÈÏÄÑÔ ÄÌÑ ÄÏÍÁÛÎÅÇÏ ÉÓÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÎÉÑ. ïÎÉ ÎÅ ÚÁÎÉÍÁÀÔ ÍÎÏÇÏ ÍÅÓÔÁ É ÐÒÅËÒÁÓÎÏ ×ÐÉÓÙ×ÁÀÔÓÑ × ÉÎÔÅÒØÅÒ ÓÏ×ÒÅÍÅÎÎÏÊ ËÕÈÎÉ. óÎÉÖÁÅÔÓÑ ÒÁÓÈÏÄ ÜÌÅËÔÒÏÜÎÅÒÇÉÉ - ÎÁÇÒÅ× ×ÏÄÕ, ËÕÌÅÒ Á×ÔÏÍÁÔÉÞÅÓËÉ ÐÅÒÅËÌÀÞÁÅÔÓÑ × ÒÅÖÉÍ ÏÖÉÄÁÎÉÑ É ×ËÌÀÞÉÔ ÎÁÇÒÅ× ÓÎÏ×Á, ËÏÇÄÁ ÔÅÍÐÅÒÁÔÕÒÁ ×ÏÄÙ × ÔÅÒÍÏÓÅ ÏÐÕÓÔÉÔÓÑ ÄÏ 85ó.. 3. ïÂÌÁÓÔØ ÜÌÅËÔÒÏÎÉËÉ, ÜÔÏ ÎÅ ÔÏÌØËÏ ÐÏÓÔÁ×ËÉ ÐÒÉÂÏÒÏ×, ÁÐÐÁÒÁÔÕÒÙ, ÎÏ É ÒÁÚÌÉÞÎÙÅ ËÏÍÐÌÅËÔÕÀÝÉÅ ËÁË ÏÔÅÞÅÓÔ×ÅÎÎÙÈ, ÔÁË É ÚÁÒÕÂÅÖÎÙÈ ÐÒÏÉÚ×ÏÄÉÔÅÌÅÊ ÜÌÅËÔÒÏÎÎÏÊ ÔÅÈÎÉËÉ. üÔÏ ÔÁËÉÅ ÆÉÒÍÙ ËÁË International Rectifier, Epcos,Bourns, Metex, unit-t É ÄÒ. 4. ó×ÁÒÏÞÎÙÅ ÜÌÅËÔÒÏÄÙ: ÍÙ ÐÒÏÄÁ£Í ÜÌÅËÔÒÏÄÙ ÏÔ ×ÅÄÕÝÉÈ ÏÔÅÞÅÓÔ×ÅÎÎÙÈ ÐÒÏÉÚ×ÏÄÉÔÅÌÅÊ. ÷ÓÅ Ó×ÁÒÏÞÎÙÅ ÜÌÅËÔÒÏÄÙ ÓÏÏÔ×ÅÔÓÔ×ÕÀÔ çïóôÕ É ÉÍÅÀÔ ÓÅÒÔÉÆÉËÁÔ ËÁÞÅÓÔ×Á. ôÁËÖÅ ÍÙ ÐÒÅÄÌÁÇÁÅÍ è/ë É ç/ë ÌÉÓÔÏ×ÏÊ ÍÅÔÁÌÌÏÐÒËÁÔ. ÷ ÎÁÓÔÏÑÝÅÅ ×ÒÅÍÑ ÍÙ ÐÒÅÄÌÁÇÁÅÍ ÕÎÉËÁÌØÎÕÀ ÒÁÚÒÁÂÏÔËÕ ÏÔÅÞÅÓÔ×ÅÎÎÙÈ ÕÞÅÎÙÈ: ËÏÍÐÅÎÓÉÒÕÀÝÉÅ ÐÁÔÒÕÂËÉ ÄÌÑ ÂÅÚÓ×ÁÒÎÏÇÏ ÓÏÅÄÉÎÅÎÉÑ ÍÅÔÁÌÌÉÞÅÓËÉÈ ÔÒÕÂ!!!(D ÏÔ 25 ÄÏ 1000ÍÍ.) îÁÛÉ ÍÅÎÅÄÖÅÒÙ ÉÍÅÀÔ ÂÏÇÁÔÙÊ ÏÐÙÔ ÐÒÏÄÁÖ, ÍÁÒËÅÔÉÎÇÏ×ÙÈ ÉÓÓÌÅÄÏ×ÁÎÉÊ, ×ÅÄÅÎÉÑ ÐÅÒÅÇÏ×ÏÒÏ× Ó ËÒÕÐÎÙÍÉ ÐÏÓÔÁ×ÝÉËÁÍÉ É ÐÏÔÒÅÂÉÔÅÌÑÍÉ ÔÏ×ÁÒÏ×, ÞÔÏ ÐÏÚ×ÏÌÑÅÔ ÎÁÍ ÄÏÓÔÁÔØ ÎÕÖÎÕÀ ÷ÁÍ ÐÒÏÄÕËÃÉÀ ÐÏ ×ÙÇÏÄÎÙÍ ÄÌÑ ÷ÁÓ ÃÅÎÁÍ É × ÏÐÔÉÍÁÌØÎÏ ËÏÒÏÔËÉÅ ÓÒÏËÉ. òÁÓÓÍÏÔÒÉÍ ÉÎÔÅÒÅÓÎÙÅ ÐÒÅÄÌÏÖÅÎÉÑ(ÐÏ ÐÒÉÅÍÌÅÍÙÍ, ËÏÎËÕÒÉÒÕÀÝÉÍ ÃÅÎÁÍ)ÓÂÙÔÁ ÐÒÏÄÕËÃÉÉ ÷ÁÛÅÇÏ ÐÒÅÄÐÒÉÑÔÉÑ, Á ÔÁËÖÅ ×ÏÚÍÏÖÅÎ ×ÁÒÉÁÎÔ ÒÁÓÓÍÏÔÒÅÎÉÑ ÐÏÓÔÁ×ËÉ ÔÏ×ÁÒÏ×, ËÏÔÏÒÙÅ ÎÅ ×ÏÛÌÉ × ÓÆÅÒÕ ÄÅÑÔÅÌØÎÏÓÔÉ ÎÁÛÅÊ ÏÒÇÁÎÉÚÁÃÉÉ!!! ÷ÁÛÕ ÐÏÔÒÅÂÎÏÓÔØ, ÍÏÖÎÏ ÏÔÐÒÁ×ÉÔØ ÎÁ ÎÁÛ ÆÁËÓ:(095) 275-89-94, ÉÌÉ ÐÏ ÜÌÅËÔÒÏÎÎÏÊ ÐÏÞÔÅ: vielmm(a)yahoo.com íÙ ÖÄÅÍ ÷ÁÓ É ×ÙÒÁÖÁÅÍ Õ×ÅÒÅÎÎÏÓÔØ × ÔÏÍ, ÞÔÏ ÏÂÒÁÔÉ×ÛÉÓØ Ë ÎÁÍ, ÷Ù ÐÏÌÕÞÉÔÅ Ë×ÁÌÉÆÉÃÉÒÏ×ÁÎÎÕÀ ÐÏÍÏÝØ, ×ÎÉÍÁÔÅÌØÎÏÅ ÏÔÎÏÛÅÎÉÅ Ë ÷ÁÛÉÍ ÐÏÔÒÅÂÎÏÓÔÑÍ, ÏÐÅÒÁÔÉ×ÎÕÀ ÏÂÒÁÂÏÔËÕ ÷ÁÛÅÇÏ ÚÁËÁÚÁ. ðÏ ×ÓÅÍ ×ÏÐÒÏÓÁÍ ×Ù ÍÏÖÅÔÅ ÏÂÒÁÝÁÔØÓÑ ÐÏ ÔÅÌÅÆÏÎÁÍ × Ç. íÏÓË×Á: (095) 275-89-94,746-68-78 _______________________________________________________________________ Powered by List Builder To unsubscribe follow the link: http://lb.bcentral.com/ex/manage/subscriberprefs?customerid=15920&subid=131…

1 0

Stew Baker: Fox News goes overboard
by Elyn Wollensky 29 Oct '01

29 Oct '01

For those who haven't seen the Baker rebuttal, that Declan mentioned, here it is- elyn -------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Fox News recently reported that the FBI has a plan to change the >architecture of the Internet, centralizing it and providing "a technical >backdoor to the networks of Internet service providers." Like many others, >I thought this was big news, and rather surprising. Until I realized that >the reporter only cited one source and that it was, well, me. Fox News's >claims go beyond the facts I provided to her, and beyond any that I know >about. > >To be clear, I believe that the FBI is at work on an initiative to make >Internet communications, indeed any packet data communications, more >susceptible to intercept and more productive of non-content data about >communications -- the sort of "pen register" data that was expressly >approved for Internet communications in the recent antiterrorism bill. This >initiative will have architectural implications for packet data >communications systems. The FBI is likely to press providers of those >services to centralize communications in nodes where interception will be >more convenient, and it is likely to call on packet data services to build >systems that provide more information about the communications of their >subscribers. > >The vehicle for this initiative is CALEA, the Communications Assistance for >Law Enforcement Act, a 1994 enactment that actually requires telecom >carriers to redesign their networks to provide better wiretap capabilities. >The act is supposed to exempt information services, but the vagueness of >that provision has encouraged the FBI to expand its mandate into packet-data >communications. The Bureau is now preparing a general CALEA proposal for >all packet-data systems. While I have not seen it, the Bureau's past >interventions into packet-data and other communications architecture have >had two characteristics -- they have sought more centralization in order to >simplify interception and they have asked providers to generate new data >messages about their subscribers' activities -- messages that are of value >only to law enforcement. > >There are real legal and policy questions that should be raised about this >effort. In my view, it goes beyond what Congress intended in 1994. And the >implications for Internet users and technologies deserve to be debated. But >making these points, as I did with Fox News, is not the same as saying that >the FBI has a firm plan to centralize the Internet and build back doors into >all ISP networks. If Fox News wants to break that story, it will need a >source other than me. > >Stewart Baker >Steptoe & Johnson LLP >1330 Connecticut Avenue, N.W. >Washington, DC 20036

1 0

acting in self-defence; this is your CIA on AP
by Khoder bin Hakkin 29 Oct '01

29 Oct '01

> The US defence secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, confirmed reports of such a > move yesterday by telling CNN that the US would be acting in self-defence in > carrying out such missions. "acting in self-defence" sounds better in Hebrew...

1 0

asdfadsf
by Brad Templeton 29 Oct '01

29 Oct '01

This is Brad Templeton from the EFF. This Wednesday I'm moderating a panel at Jeff Pulver's semi-annual conference on Presence and Instant Messaging. It's a smallish (couple of hundred) conference where you'll see most of the commercial players in instant messaging, with the very notable exception of AOL. However, having attended this conference I have found that most of the people there pay little attention to issues of security and privacy in the IM world. Sometimes for real reasons (most IM is forced by NAT and firewalls to be routed through central servers) but often times simply because they haven't bothered. The panel I am moderating is on these topics of Presence and Instant Messaging, and due to various circumstances, right now I have only 2 other speakers on it, who will speak about the privacy and security work being done by two standards bodies, the PAM formum, and the IETF SIP working group. I have my own talk on the design and political issues, but I can move a lot of that into my plenary talk later in the day where I want to get those issues out. In particular I am interested in technologically interesting projects or research to allow privacy, encryption and anonymity in instant messaging, and also in presence data and location-aware devices. (Part of the conference is also on location aware services, E911 manadated location-aware phones etc.) So I apologize for not asking until today, but if you have done any work in these areas you would like to talk about briefly, I could have a slot for you, and get you free attendance at this normally $2,000 conference. Last time Lenny Foner gave a great talk on his work. The conference info is at http://www.pulver.com/pim/ and my session is This Wedesday, Oct 31, at 9:45am. It is at the Marriott in Santa Clara. Sorry as well for posting without regularly reading cypherpunks, but I need to keep my email load down.

1 0

Singing The War Prayer
by A. Melon 29 Oct '01

29 Oct '01

>but in all candor, dont ya think >that if a guy is there who SHOULDNT >be there, he wouldnt be there >after a decent timeframe of investigation? > >notwithstanding other manners of recent >injustices of justice, i.e., Mitnick et al, >in this day and age, with '1000' under the >microscope, doncha think odds are that >some of these guys woulda made it out >without incident? >holy shit what are the chances that the >evidence shows they are complicit?! >down to the last one of them! Tell that to 40,000 Japanese-Americans, Fed. >Heres the message we should try to send >with our words and our actions: > >Dont fuck up and try to kill Americans. >Because we will fuck you in your ass with >a greased lightning tomahawk missile >that will gut you and your camel, and >the 5 wives you both rode in on... along >with those 15 little terrorists a year you >keep pumping out, in your own words. >By the way, forget about sex for fun with those >broads... apparently there is a mandate >to 'copulate to populate, not just to fornicate'. >SNAP, after lookin at some of 'dat shit, I >would rather masturbate. No wonder they wear >veils, dey breath must stank to High Heaven. If what I saw in the papers this morning is called a surgical strike, who do I sue for malpractice? -- The War Prayer by Mark Twain It was a time of great and exalting excitement. The country was up in arms, the war was on, in every breast burned the holy fire of patriotism; the drums were beating, the bands playing, the toy pistols popping, the bunched firecrackers hissing and spluttering; on every hand and far down the receding and fading spread of roofs and balconies a fluttering wilderness of flags flashed in the sun; daily the young volunteers marched down the wide avenue gay and fine in their new uniforms, the proud fathers and mothers and sisters and sweethearts cheering them with voices choked with happy emotion as they swung by; nightly the packed mass meetings listened, panting, to patriot oratory which stirred the deepest deeps of their hearts, and which they interrupted at briefest intervals with cyclones of applause, the tears running down their cheeks the while; in the churches the pastors preached devotion to flag and country, and invoked the God of Battles beseeching His aid in our good cause in outpourings of fervid eloquence which moved every listener. It was indeed a glad and gracious time, and the half dozen rash spirits that ventured to disapprove of the war and cast a doubt upon its righteousness straightway got such a stern and angry warning that for their personal safety's sake they quickly shrank out of sight and offended no more in that way. Sunday morning came -- next day the battalions would leave for the front; the church was filled; the volunteers were there, their young faces alight with martial dreams -- visions of the stern advance, the gathering momentum, the rushing charge, the flashing sabers, the flight of the foe, the tumult, the enveloping smoke, the fierce pursuit, the surrender! Then home from the war, bronzed heroes, welcomed, adored, submerged in golden seas of glory! With the volunteers sat their dear ones, proud, happy, and envied by the neighbors and friends who had no sons and brothers to send forth to the field of honor, there to win for the flag, or, failing, die the noblest of noble deaths. The service proceeded; a war chapter from the Old Testament was read; the first prayer was said; it was followed by an organ burst that shook the building, and with one impulse the house rose, with glowing eyes and beating hearts, and poured out that tremendous invocation *God the all-terrible! Thou who ordainest! Thunder thy clarion and lightning thy sword!* Then came the "long" prayer. None could remember the like of it for passionate pleading and moving and beautiful language. The burden of its supplication was, that an ever-merciful and benignant Father of us all would watch over our noble young soldiers, and aid, comfort, and encourage them in their patriotic work; bless them, shield them in the day of battle and the hour of peril, bear them in His mighty hand, make them strong and confident, invincible in the bloody onset; help them to crush the foe, grant to them and to their flag and country imperishable honor and glory -- An aged stranger entered and moved with slow and noiseless step up the main aisle, his eyes fixed upon the minister, his long body clothed in a robe that reached to his feet, his head bare, his white hair descending in a frothy cataract to his shoulders, his seamy face unnaturally pale, pale even to ghastliness. With all eyes following him and wondering, he made his silent way; without pausing, he ascended to the preacher's side and stood there waiting. With shut lids the preacher, unconscious of his presence, continued with his moving prayer, and at last finished it with the words, uttered in fervent appeal, "Bless our arms, grant us the victory, O Lord our God, Father and Protector of our land and flag!" The stranger touched his arm, motioned him to step aside -- which the startled minister did -- and took his place. During some moments he surveyed the spellbound audience with solemn eyes, in which burned an uncanny light; then in a deep voice he said: "I come from the Throne -- bearing a message from Almighty God!" The words smote the house with a shock; if the stranger perceived it he gave no attention. "He has heard the prayer of His servant your shepherd, and will grant it if such shall be your desire after I, His messenger, shall have explained to you its import -- that is to say, its full import. For it is like unto many of the prayers of men, in that it asks for more than he who utters it is aware of -- except he pause and think. "God's servant and yours has prayed his prayer. Has he paused and taken thought? Is it one prayer? No, it is two -- one uttered, the other not. Both have reached the ear of Him Who heareth all supplications, the spoken and the unspoken. Ponder this -- keep it in mind. If you would beseech a blessing upon yourself, beware! lest without intent you invoke a curse upon a neighbor at the same time. If you pray for the blessing of rain upon your crop which needs it, by that act you are possibly praying for a curse upon some neighbor's crop which may not need rain and can be injured by it. "You have heard your servant's prayer -- the uttered part of it. I am commissioned of God to put into words the other part of it -- that part which the pastor -- and also you in your hearts -- fervently prayed silently. And ignorantly and unthinkingly? God grant that it was so! You heard these words: 'Grant us the victory, O Lord our God!' That is sufficient. the *whole* of the uttered prayer is compact into those pregnant words. Elaborations were not necessary. When you have prayed for victory you have prayed for many unmentioned results which follow victory--*must* follow it, cannot help but follow it. Upon the listening spirit of God fell also the unspoken part of the prayer. He commandeth me to put it into words. Listen! "O Lord our Father, our young patriots, idols of our hearts, go forth to battle -- be Thou near them! With them -- in spirit -- we also go forth from the sweet peace of our beloved firesides to smite the foe. O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it -- for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen. (*After a pause.*) "Ye have prayed it; if ye still desire it, speak! The messenger of the Most High waits!" It was believed afterward that the man was a lunatic, because there was no sense in what he said.

1 0

Re: FBI wants to have Internet Off-switch
by Anonymous 29 Oct '01

29 Oct '01

Yes, thanks. I completely neglected to enumerate the possibility that the reporter got it all wrong, the most probable explanation for the conundri of Baker's purported utterings. Reporters are, after all, lamers. :) >You may want to look at Baker's denial I sent to Politech today. > >-Declan > >On Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 10:51:00AM -0700, Anonymous wrote: >> Reading the article ....

1 0

reuters: "U.S. Military Unveils Smart ID Card."
by Xeni Jardin 29 Oct '01

29 Oct '01

Monday October 29 3:01 PM ET U.S. Military Unveils Smart ID Card http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20011029/tc/tech_military_usa_dc_1.html By Andrea Shalal-Esa WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Top U.S. military officials on Monday unveiled a new generation of ``smart'' identity cards, but were still weighing whether to add medical data and other information to the chip-based ID cards. The Defense Department said it expected to issue the chip-based ``common access cards'' to 4.3 million military personnel -- including active military, selected reserves, civilian employees and some contractors -- within the next 15 months. Officials said the cards, which include a photograph, bar code, magnetic strip and other identifying text, would help tighten security on access at 900 U.S. military sites worldwide, including the Pentagon (news - web sites), and to computer networks, including access to encrypted e-mail and online transactions. ``The big benefits are in the area of security,'' said Dr. David Chu, undersecretary of defense for personnel and readiness, told Reuters. ``You can know who was in a facility at a given time.'' He said that issue had taken on new importance after the Sept. 11 hijacking attacks and the discovery of anthrax-laced letters, which has prompted the government to put thousands of postal workers and others exposed to the potentially deadly bacteria on antibiotics. ``This technology is an important tool to improving the way the Defense Department does business,'' he said. Once the cards are widely distributed, the military could also use them to help create manifests for troop deployments, greatly speeding a process that can last hours now, officials said. Holders could also use the cards to book and file travel plans and expenses, officials said. MEDICAL DATA COULD BE ADDED LATER The military later could add encrypted medical information to the cards, or simply use them to access secure computer files with that information, Chu said. But, he said there would be benefits and risks to such a move, and the Pentagon had not yet approved it. Mary Dixon, director of the Defense Department's access card office, said officials were mindful of service members' privacy concerns. Assistant Secretary of Defense John Stenbit said other countries such as South Africa already used such cards to control access to voting booths and welfare benefits. Officials at the Pentagon and EDS Corp. (NYSE:EDS - news), the main contractor for the smart cards, said efforts were underway to boost the capacity of the cards within a year. Efforts were also underway to add an individual's fingerprint, which could be ready for implementation within two years, said Ken Scheflen, director of the Defense Manpower Data Center. Scheflen said the Pentagon's experience with the new technology could prove useful in any move to create national identification cards for the United States, but no such discussions were underway. While the military had no trouble authenticating its users, it could prove more difficult to do so if each American was issued a national ID -- potentially over 200 million people, Scheflen said.

1 0