September 2000 - cypherpunks-legacy

CDR: Nuevo servicio para tecnicos
by Coordinador 21 Sep '00

21 Sep '00

Hola: Un grupo de tecnicos relacionados con la industria de la construccion hemos decidido realizar un boletin distribuido por email y dirigido a los profesionales del sector con datos de obras y proyectos, productos, direcciones de proveedores y/o fabricantes, ferias, bibliografia, etc, etc. Es decir, toda la informacion, a mano, del mercado de la construccion que consideramos necesaria para realizar nuestro trabajo. El ambito de aplicacion seria para España. Tambien estamos en contacto con los Colegios Profesionales por lograr una mayor difusion del proyecto. De la cantidad de respuestas recibidas dependera la viabilidad del proyecto, por eso si le interesa, le pido nos conteste este mensaje poniendo en el subject o asunto ALTA y pasara a formar parte de la base de datos. Le mantendremos informado de los progresos en este emprendimiento, asi como la fecha de inicio del boletin, que esperamos sea en este año. Gracias por tu tiempo. --Se han omitido los acentos para evitar incompatibilidades-- *** Disculpe por este mail no Solicitado. *** Este mensaje se envía con la complacencia de la nueva legislación sobre correo electrónico: Por sección 301, parrafo (a)(2)(C) de S.1618 Bajo el decreto S.1618 titulo 3ro. Aprobado por el 105 congreso base de las normativas internacionales sobre SPAM, este E-mail no podra ser considerado SPAM mientras incluya una forma de ser removido. Para ser removido de la lista reenvie este mensaje y en el subjet, titulo o asunto escriba "BORRAR" y automaticamente sera removido para futuros mensajes. Desde ya muchas gracias por su atención. Per Section 301, Paragraph (a)(2)(C) of S. 1618, further transmissions to you by the sender of this e-mail may be stopped at NO COST to you by sending a reply to < sbastia(a)ciccp.es > with the word "BORRAR" in the subject line ___________________________________________________ Nos adherimos además a la Ley Orgánica 15/1999 del 13 de Diciembre, (Ley Española de Protección de Datos Personales) por la que puede solicitar su eliminación de las Bases de datos en las que no desea figurar (BOE 14-12-99). ___________________________________________________ Un saludo. Sergio Franco Bastianelli Coordinador del boletin INPECO ------------------------------------------------------- C/San Francisco, 57, 5º Derecha. Tel y Fax: 986 226415 36202 Vigo - Pontevedra - España. email: sfranco(a)caminos.recol.es

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CDR: -C-P- Re: would it be so much to ask.. CPUNK
by Trei, Peter 21 Sep '00

21 Sep '00

At the last go-around of this topic (how to reduce the spam problem) I proposed appending CPUNK to messages. Appending a tag has much better properties than prepending. It doesn't break sorting by subject line, it is automatically in the correct position in replies, and is generally less intrusive. All tags are ugly, but some are worse than others. I still occasionally add CPUNK to my subject lines (as I did in this message) Have we finally beaten Mr. Assymetric into silence? Peter Trei > ---------- > From: Harmon Seaver[SMTP:hseaver@harmon.arrowhead.lib.mn.us] > Reply To: Harmon Seaver > Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 11:29 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: -C-P- Re: would it be so much to ask.. > > "William H. Geiger III" wrote: > > > Subscibe to a list that filters out the CDR: from the subject as Jim has > made it clear that he is going to continue adding this to the subject > line. On the openpgp.net list the subject is: > > > > > > The problem with that, or at least openpgp.net, is that the software > also strips the header, so that you have no way to filter the toad.com > crap, and thus, the spam. > > >

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CDR: Re: Re; cover your glass
by keyser-soze＠hushmail.com 21 Sep '00

21 Sep '00

I'd be willing to be that placing a semi-reflective glass wedge in the optical path ahead of the scope's front lens would defeat such laser detection systems. Any incoming light not reflected off the wedge's front surface (and perhaps trapped in an adjoining baffle) would almost surely be reflected off the wedge's other front surface denying the laser's operator enough of a return signal to work with. That the lasers are probably working in the IR (so as not to be easily detectable by the snipper) makes the wedge even easier to use as it needn't appreciably reduce the visible component most useful to the sniper. At 12:30 PM 12/31/99 -0500, you wrote: Old news: See below ---------- Reply to ---------- Date: 31 Dec 1999 04:20:45 -0000 Subject: cover your glass From: lcs Mixmaster Remailer <mix(a)anon.lcs.mit.edu> Reply-to: lcs Mixmaster Remailer <mix(a)anon.lcs.mit.edu> To: cypherpunks(a)algebra.com Re: acoustic shooter detection systems in LA Just FYI: Some time ago I read of the development of sniper-detection systems which looked for reflections off the 'scope glass. This probably isn't ready for prime time, being in development maybe a year ago, and isn't mentioned in the article, so you're probably safe taking your time, sighting in. BMGMonger ----------------------------------------------------- Here in my stack of oddball periodicals I have a copy of the July/August 1998 issue of Revue Aerospatiale A french aerospace journal, wherein we have an article Lasers: Hard-Hitting Watchdogs The best way to dissuade snipers is to deprive them of their impunity by ensureing they know that their exact location has been pinpointed. CILAS demonstrated this at Eurosatory with its directed-optics laser detector- the first production unit intended ultimately for delivery to the French army. This ground-breaking technology can be expected to bring other developments in its wake. It goes on; Quietly, free from media hype, things (this is in ref to background on why snipers are bad) have suddenly changed since a prototype of the SLD400 was received by the French armed forces. Behind this mundane designation lurks a device capable of detecting, locating and indentifying the optics with which snipers are equipped. More; The scope of application of the SLD400 is much wider and can include the protection of VIPs and pinpointing sharpshooters of the binoculars of terrorists preparing criminal acts. (it actually says that) The article goes on to describe building databases of specific optical device signature and such. So that they not only know that you are there, they also know what you have deployed to better asses threat level and so on. Assume they know, always. IMPORTANT NOTICE: If you are not using HushMail, this message could have been read easily by the many people who have access to your open personal email messages. Get your FREE, totally secure email address at http://www.hushmail.com.

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CDR: Vacation!
by Vacation 21 Sep '00

21 Sep '00

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21 Sep '00

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Error in announcement [ANNOUNCE: OpenSSL 0.9.6 beta 3 (Final beta)]
by Richard Levitte 21 Sep '00

21 Sep '00

The announcement that was just sent out contained an error. The following tarballs were mentioned: openssl-0.9.6-beta2.tar.gz openssl-engine-0.9.6-beta2.tar.gz The correct files are of course: openssl-0.9.6-beta3.tar.gz openssl-engine-0.9.6-beta3.tar.gz My appologies. -- Richard Levitte levitte(a)openssl.org OpenSSL Project http://www.openssl.org/~levitte/ Software Engineer, Celo Communications: http://www.celocom.com/

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Re: Identity theft (Ellison, RISKS-21.05)
by Martin Minow 21 Sep '00

21 Sep '00

> Now -- how do we get consumer protection laws that make it clear that a > consumer is not liable for any debts incurred by someone claiming to be > him/her ... Having recently been on the receiving end of identity theft, I'm a bit more optimistic than Carl. I solved my problem by reading the back page of the credit report, where it provided addresses of the federal agencies that regulate collection bureaus, banks, and similar organizations. Letters to the agencies resulted in one "opening a case" and, eventually, a letter of apology from the bank in question (who hadn't answered my previous requests/complaints). I used an account record book -- a bound notebook with numbered pages -- that had dated notes of every interaction I had with the banks and credit card agencies, interspersed with software notes, interesting URL's, telemarketing caller numbers, and other scribbles. This let me document my complaints with the specific dates and times that I attempted to resolve the problem. Martin Minow minow(a)pobox.com --- All inventions or works of authorship original to me, herein and past, are placed irrevocably in the public domain, and may be used or modified for any purpose, without permission, attribution, or notification.

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Re: Identity theft (Ellison, RISKS-21.05)
by Martin Minow 21 Sep '00

21 Sep '00

> Now -- how do we get consumer protection laws that make it clear that a > consumer is not liable for any debts incurred by someone claiming to be > him/her ... Having recently been on the receiving end of identity theft, I'm a bit more optimistic than Carl. I solved my problem by reading the back page of the credit report, where it provided addresses of the federal agencies that regulate collection bureaus, banks, and similar organizations. Letters to the agencies resulted in one "opening a case" and, eventually, a letter of apology from the bank in question (who hadn't answered my previous requests/complaints). I used an account record book -- a bound notebook with numbered pages -- that had dated notes of every interaction I had with the banks and credit card agencies, interspersed with software notes, interesting URL's, telemarketing caller numbers, and other scribbles. This let me document my complaints with the specific dates and times that I attempted to resolve the problem. Martin Minow minow(a)pobox.com --- All inventions or works of authorship original to me, herein and past, are placed irrevocably in the public domain, and may be used or modified for any purpose, without permission, attribution, or notification. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C028A3.8160D100 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META NAME="Generator" CONTENT="MS Exchange Server version 5.5.2652.35"> <TITLE>RE: More from RISKS</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> Sorry, it wasn't a "private solution" but relied on the existing legal protections under Federal Law. If I was asking for more laws, I'd ask for the Swedish credit disclosure law that says that whenever a company writes a credit report it must provide the individual with a true and accurate copy (without any action on the individual's part). Martin Minow minow(a)pobox.com   -----Original Message----- From: Marcel Popescu [<A HREF="mailto:marcel@aiurea.com">mailto:marcel@aiurea.com</A>] Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 9:44 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: More from RISKS A private solution to the problem that one Carl wanted more laws to solve: Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 20:08:29 -0700 X-Loop: openpgp.net From: Martin Minow <minow(a)pobox.com> Subject: Re: Identity theft (Ellison, RISKS-21.05) > Now -- how do we get consumer protection laws that make it clear that a > consumer is not liable for any debts incurred by someone claiming to be > him/her ... Having recently been on the receiving end of identity theft, I'm a bit more optimistic than Carl. I solved my problem by reading the back page of the credit report, where it provided addresses of the federal agencies that regulate collection bureaus, banks, and similar organizations. Letters to the agencies resulted in one "opening a case" and, eventually, a letter of apology from the bank in question (who hadn't answered my previous requests/complaints).  I used an account record book -- a bound notebook with numbered pages -- that had dated notes of every interaction I had with the banks and credit card agencies, interspersed with software notes, interesting URL's, telemarketing caller numbers, and other scribbles. This let me document my complaints with the specific dates and times that I attempted to resolve the problem. Martin Minow minow(a)pobox.com --- All inventions or works of authorship original to me, herein and past, are placed irrevocably in the public domain, and may be used or modified for any purpose, without permission, attribution, or notification. </BODY> </HTML> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C028A3.8160D100--

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Re: Identity theft (Ellison, RISKS-21.05)
by Martin Minow 21 Sep '00

21 Sep '00

> Now -- how do we get consumer protection laws that make it clear that a > consumer is not liable for any debts incurred by someone claiming to be > him/her ... Having recently been on the receiving end of identity theft, I'm a bit more optimistic than Carl. I solved my problem by reading the back page of the credit report, where it provided addresses of the federal agencies that regulate collection bureaus, banks, and similar organizations. Letters to the agencies resulted in one "opening a case" and, eventually, a letter of apology from the bank in question (who hadn't answered my previous requests/complaints). I used an account record book -- a bound notebook with numbered pages -- that had dated notes of every interaction I had with the banks and credit card agencies, interspersed with software notes, interesting URL's, telemarketing caller numbers, and other scribbles. This let me document my complaints with the specific dates and times that I attempted to resolve the problem. Martin Minow minow(a)pobox.com --- All inventions or works of authorship original to me, herein and past, are placed irrevocably in the public domain, and may be used or modified for any purpose, without permission, attribution, or notification. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C028A3.8160D100 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META NAME="Generator" CONTENT="MS Exchange Server version 5.5.2652.35"> <TITLE>RE: More from RISKS</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> Sorry, it wasn't a "private solution" but relied on the existing legal protections under Federal Law. If I was asking for more laws, I'd ask for the Swedish credit disclosure law that says that whenever a company writes a credit report it must provide the individual with a true and accurate copy (without any action on the individual's part). Martin Minow minow(a)pobox.com   -----Original Message----- From: Marcel Popescu [<A HREF="mailto:marcel@aiurea.com">mailto:marcel@aiurea.com</A>] Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 9:44 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: More from RISKS A private solution to the problem that one Carl wanted more laws to solve: Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 20:08:29 -0700 X-Loop: openpgp.net From: Martin Minow <minow(a)pobox.com> Subject: Re: Identity theft (Ellison, RISKS-21.05) > Now -- how do we get consumer protection laws that make it clear that a > consumer is not liable for any debts incurred by someone claiming to be > him/her ... Having recently been on the receiving end of identity theft, I'm a bit more optimistic than Carl. I solved my problem by reading the back page of the credit report, where it provided addresses of the federal agencies that regulate collection bureaus, banks, and similar organizations. Letters to the agencies resulted in one "opening a case" and, eventually, a letter of apology from the bank in question (who hadn't answered my previous requests/complaints).  I used an account record book -- a bound notebook with numbered pages -- that had dated notes of every interaction I had with the banks and credit card agencies, interspersed with software notes, interesting URL's, telemarketing caller numbers, and other scribbles. This let me document my complaints with the specific dates and times that I attempted to resolve the problem. Martin Minow minow(a)pobox.com --- All inventions or works of authorship original to me, herein and past, are placed irrevocably in the public domain, and may be used or modified for any purpose, without permission, attribution, or notification. </BODY> </HTML> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C028A3.8160D100--

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