September 2000 - cypherpunks-legacy

Brands' Book on PKI Just Published by MIT Press
by R. A. Hettinga 21 Sep '00

21 Sep '00

It looks like Dr. Stefan Brands' book, "Rethinking Public Key Infrastructures and Digital Certificates; Building in Privacy", with outstanding discussion of, among other things, ;-), internet bearer transactions, has gone through the mill at MIT press and come out the other side. If you couldn't get a copy of it when Stefan offered it as a self-published version of his doctoral thesis, now's the time to get it. Cheers, RAH --- begin forwarded text

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CDR: Re: was: And you thought Nazi agitprop was controversial?
by Gil Hamilton 21 Sep '00

21 Sep '00

Marcel Popescu writes: >From: "Trei, Peter" <ptrei(a)rsasecurity.com> > > > Imagine if the software business were like this - that the programmers > > of the late 40's had formed an American Programmers Association, > > and it was unlawful for anyone without APA certification to write > > code for money. > >Some people are trying to do this. See for example >http://www.colosseumbuilders.com/american.htm [I especially find the "no >foreign competition" (aka "no H1-B") disgusting. Tim May notwithstanding, >we >DO compete with the americans - and a lot of us are better.] What a hoot! Thanks for the pointer. I don't know who these bozos are, but their web site reads like the product of a bunch of high school dropouts. Guilds are of course dangerous and a bad idea, for a long list of reasons that we've been over on this list dozens of times. Fortunately, no one is likely to take these "programmers" seriously. As a long-time software designer and implementer, I can confidently say that anyone who believes there is no shortage of programmers either isn't a programmer himself or has let his skill set get way out of date. And no, I don't live or work anywhere near Silicon Valley either. (Apparently, these folks believe that it is the responsibility of their employers to train them - they really need to take charge of their own careers.) They, as well as the academics whose works they have links to, apparently believe that all those job postings in the papers and on web sites are a vast right wing conspiracy designed to allow the Evil Big Corporations to hire foreign programmers for peanuts thru the H-1B program. Mark, don't worry, the real programmers among us aren't afraid to compete (actually, right now, there's plenty of work for everyone who is competent so there's little need for real competetition). Fortunately, these losers are unlikely to be successful in their organizational and lobbying efforts. - GH _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

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CDR: curfew
by pentz 21 Sep '00

21 Sep '00

Dear________, curfews have always been up to the parents & I don't think the city should set a curfew. I give my own kids cyrfues and if think that I should leave it up to the city then you give me 5 good reasons why! ~Rachel~

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CDR: Re: COPPA
by Matt Curtin 21 Sep '00

21 Sep '00

>>>>> "jfanonymous" == jfanonymous <jfanonymous(a)yahoo.com> writes: jfanonymous> "COPPA, AKA Children Loose their Right to Free Speech Online" jfanonymous> - ME How, exactly, is the speech of children inhibited by COPPA? -- Matt Curtin cmcurtin(a)interhack.net http://www.interhack.net/people/cmcurtin/

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CDR: Stop faxing me
by Dr. Bernard Loev 21 Sep '00

21 Sep '00

I resent receiving faxes from you arriving in the middle of the night. Remove my name from your mailing list or automated phone/fax services. They have been coming to my fax line at : 610-668-4888. Walter Loev

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CDR: Answer Re: email interception
by Scot Scot 21 Sep '00

21 Sep '00

Randy, Here's the lowdown on e-mail interception. E-mail is treated just like any other form of electronic communication. It is a privilage and not a constutitional right so it falls under: Public Law 99-508 Electronic Communications Privacy Act Updated Federal privacy clause in Omnibus Crime Control & Safe Streets Act of 1968 There are a few others of course, but these are the biggies that are brought up in the courts. "It is LEGAL to intercept electronic communications readily accessible to the general public". Now be careful with this... it is referring to frequencies that are public carriers as defined by the FCC. In a nutshell, you can not be prosecuted for recieving a private phone conversation over the lines of your speaker wires and/or another phone. Why? It was not intentional. Remember, everything legal depends on the scope of which the act was created and how the tool and/or weapon was used. Example: 1. It is legal to use a hammer to drive nails into a board 2. It is legal to use a hammer to kill someone 3. It is illegal to use a hammer to kill someone Scope: 1. You are building a picnic table 2. You are defending yourself from another using a = or > weapon. 3. You are the agressor. Remember this when intercepting electronic communication, ask yourself "in what scope am I recieving this signal" If there is no malacious intent, if you do not divulge the information you recieve and it is across a public carrier then, yes... it can be legal. However, if you go out of your way to modify a Radio Shack scanner to scan cell phone and local 900MHz frequencies... you can get yourself into a little trouble. That's why the FCC regulates the distrabution of such devices. Same thing goes for E-mail, if you accidently recieve someone elses e-mail, this was not done with malacious intent. You are not to divulge the information you recieve. Sorry I'm getting a little long winded here, just one more thing to add. The rules change however if it is in the workplace, but there are rules that the workplace has to follow. The catch is... Implied Consent and Express Consent. Implied consent: Message posted that indicates that their will be periodic electronic monitering and/or verbal warning that you may be monitored. (Can be a logon banner) Express Consent: Explicit signed permission (company policies) granting the company-employer the right to monitor communications at their discression. Remember, at work the equipment, property and the telephone lines do not belong to you. They belong to the company. If you own a business and/or are responsible for such monitoring... remember two things. 1. Get employees to sign a policy granting you Express Consent to monitor communications lines. Make it part of their in-process. Do not allow them access to your communicatoins equipment without signing the policy. Just remember to word it carefully, get the company lawyer in on the draft. 2. Never, Never, Never investigate an employee. Only a trained law enforcement officer can do an investigation. Remember... Statistical Gathering is the key. Investigating = No Statistical Gathering = Yes Remember one thing about discussing anything in terms of law. Law is not written in stone. Laws are scripted to be generic, thats why we have lawyers who make $$$ for being able to bend the sight of law into something a Judge or Jury may see. I hope I managed to answer your question Randy. If you have any thing you would like to add and/or more questions hit the RE: sK01 >From: Randy Harris <Randy(a)Dodeca.com> >To: "'cypherpunks(a)toad.com'" <cypherpunks(a)toad.com> >Subject: email interception >Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:10:05 -0400 > >is it illegal to intercept email.........? > >If you don't know could you direct me somewhere that has the answer..? > >R. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

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CDR: Noah's Flood
by Tim May 21 Sep '00

21 Sep '00

A year and a half ago I read one of the most interesting, interdisciplinary books I've ever read, "Noah's Flood," by Ryan and Pitman. Not a religious book, but a book combining oceanography, geology, fish biology, pottery studies, DNA analysis, mythology, and several other fields. The big news today was the announcement that human habitation remains have been found where the Ryan and Pitman theory predicted. This has profound significance for our culture, for understanding the spread of Indo-European language, and for the apparent "diaspora" happening at around this time. (It would not surprise me if the earliest known agricultural implements are found in the next few years.) This is not a Cypherpunks topic, but I believe I've mentioned the Ryan and Pitman book here before. And it shows how science is done. To quote one of the many stories appearing today: Wednesday September 13 3:00 AM ET New Evidence of Great Flood Found By RANDOLPH E. SCHMID, Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON (AP) - The first evidence that humans lived in an area now covered by the Black Sea - perhaps inundated by the biblical flood - has been found by a team of explorers. ``Artifacts at the site are clearly well preserved, with carved wooden beams, wooden branches and stone tools,'' lead researcher Robert Ballard said. ... Columbia University researchers William Ryan and Walter Pittman speculated in their 1997 book ``Noah's Flood'' that when the European glaciers melted, about 7,000 years ago, the Mediterranean Sea overflowed into what was then a smaller freshwater lake to create the Black Sea. Last year Ballard found indications of an ancient coastline miles out from the current Black Sea coast. The new discovery provides evidence that people once lived in that now inundated region. (end excerpt) -- ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 831-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, "Cyphernomicon" | black markets, collapse of governments.

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CDR: europe physical meeting
by Tom Vogt 21 Sep '00

21 Sep '00

update on time and especially location: final time is: 30/Sep/2000, 16:00 (20000930160000) location is the Tex's Bar'b'que (or something like that - the spelling is a little odd) on Millerntorplatz 1, Hamburg, Germany. I have started a little webpage with links to maps, etc. I will be adding a couple of photos of the place to make finding it trivial. I think I will have photos roughly 24h from now. hit http://www.lemuria.org/cpunk.html for that webpage. more updates coming. if you have any questions, send me a mail.

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CDR: email interception
by Randy Harris 21 Sep '00

21 Sep '00

is it illegal to intercept email.........? If you don't know could you direct me somewhere that has the answer..? R.

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CDR: Dia Europeu sem Carros
by apoio＠giganetstore.com 21 Sep '00

21 Sep '00

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